Bugs Bunny wuz here 0 Posted August 20, 2006 i know it's only preseason, so we'll take it with a grain of salt. but what guys are looking impressive so far? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ieatchickens 0 Posted August 20, 2006 Shhhhhh Greg Jennings WR Green Bay looks like the real deal. http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=486026 Lets keep this between the two of us, okay? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swamp dog 0 Posted August 20, 2006 Shhhhhh Greg Jennings WR Green Bay looks like the real deal. http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=486026 Lets keep this between the two of us, okay? those who draft him this year expecting consistent ff production his rookie year are going to be sorely disappointed. history is against him. he had 1 catch for 5 yards last night when it mattered and dropped a crucial third-down ball (first half). do the research: a vast majority of rookie wrs blow. i haven't seen anything from this kid that would cause me to confuse him with randy moss. next year? could be worth keeping an eye on. but i saw a ridiculous post that said he'd be gone this year by round 7 in a league of packer homers. ridiculous. --brian griese. not that'd i'd have any bear offensive player on my team aside from whichever rb wins the job, but griese has clearly--clearly--out-played grossman so far. not even close. but it looks like the bears are going to force-fed grossman the ball much like the lions did harrington. keep in mind grossman is due a big roster bonus next year. --roy williams. all systems go. --favre looked great last night. i still don't trust him at this point in his career or that line, though. still thinking driver's the only safe ff option on that team. again, i'll take a chance on a young guy with upside but from old dudes like favre i want consistency. i don't think he's capable of that anymore. he'll have a monster game here and there this year and the rest of the time get his brains beat in and have that deer-in-headlights look. no thanks. --kellen winslow looked pretty good the other night. he seems to be getting lots of looks and so far he's staying healthy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIKI-BARBERS-BARBER 0 Posted August 20, 2006 Musa Smith Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jocstrap 8 Posted August 20, 2006 wr sleepers are who i like to find - these guys aren't sleepers, but middle round high percentage guys last week coles had a ton of receptions - #1 target - good good all you can ask for this week - Mason had 7 receptions #1 target - good good all you can ask for Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swamp dog 0 Posted August 21, 2006 wr sleepers are who i like to find - these guys aren't sleepers, but middle round high percentage guys last week coles had a ton of receptions - #1 target - good good all you can ask for this week - Mason had 7 receptions #1 target - good good all you can ask for good info. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nzoner 936 Posted August 21, 2006 I've been keeping an eye on Antonio Bryant and Ben Watson. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jagermeister 0 Posted August 21, 2006 Definitely Derrick Mason, Greg Jones, and Wali Lundy. Also been watching Heap who should be the #2 TE...and a much better value than Gates at his ADP (and I love Gates). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aggiewildlife 0 Posted August 21, 2006 Definitely Derrick Mason, Greg Jones, and Wali Lundy. Also been watching Heap who should be the #2 TE...and a much better value than Gates at his ADP (and I love Gates). Agree with Mason and Jones, but Lundy has been making one mistake after another, especially with blocking (or lack thereof). His stat line alone doesn't tell the whole story. I doubt the coaches have too much confidence in using him until he shows some improvement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GridIronAssassin#1 0 Posted August 21, 2006 Running Back Arliss Beach looked good. He comes with a good resume of NEVER fumbling in college and he catch the ball out of the backfield. I think he'll pass up Herron on the depth chart and I honestly think he has alot more to offer than Gado. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jagermeister 0 Posted August 21, 2006 Agree with Mason and Jones, but Lundy has been making one mistake after another, especially with blocking (or lack thereof). His stat line alone doesn't tell the whole story. I doubt the coaches have too much confidence in using him until he shows some improvement. I should actually change my Lundy in my post to be "Texans backup RB" and just watching for whoever that is. Regardless, I'm still waiting to hear something definitive. I really have no scoop on Lundy's mistakes, so thanks for the red flag. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
saturate1 0 Posted August 21, 2006 Musa Smith and Mike Bell seems to look productive Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miket7 0 Posted August 21, 2006 I was at the Rams/Texans game on Friday night. Vernand Morency was tearing it up and looked good everytime he touched the ball. Wali Lundy started, but couldn't do much against the same defenses Morency was facing. I'm not the coaching staff, but if Davis can't go, I would definitely go with Morency as the starter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ras66not99 0 Posted August 21, 2006 Also been watching Heap who should be the #2 TE...and a much better value than Gates at his ADP (and I love Gates). Amen ! I have the same view on this situation Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GhostofMeanMachine99 1 Posted August 21, 2006 I was at the Rams/Texans game on Friday night. Vernand Morency was tearing it up and looked good everytime he touched the ball. Wali Lundy started, but couldn't do much against the same defenses Morency was facing. I'm not the coaching staff, but if Davis can't go, I would definitely go with Morency as the starter. How does the Texan offensive line look this season? Morency and Andre Johnson are both on my radar this season, but I know full well it'll depend on whether the line has improved (and to what extent) from last season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmac13 0 Posted August 21, 2006 Greg Jennings, WR GB I've heard his route running is awesome and he has a rapport with Favre. Also, whispers are that he looks like a young Marvin Harrison. I think he will be #2 receiver in GB sooner rather than later, and be most productive rookie WR. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freighttrain 0 Posted August 21, 2006 Tony Scheffler. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wayne Fontes 0 Posted August 21, 2006 I watched Magahee the other night and he looked real quick....and more importantly, Losman looked like an NFL QB. Arizona offense....not good so far. A big test this week at Chicago...I know Edge, Fitz and Boldin are high on draft list, so this game could show us a lot McNair to DMason hook up....very nice. And as always, the Lions....they don't suck yet...yet.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
montana 89 Posted August 21, 2006 Neighborhood chic across the way looks impressive - where were these girls when I was 17? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Restricted 0 Posted August 21, 2006 those who draft him this year expecting consistent ff production his rookie year are going to be sorely disappointed. history is against him. he had 1 catch for 5 yards last night when it mattered and dropped a crucial third-down ball (first half). Did you see the play? He extended for the ball, took a vicious hit that knocked the ball out, got right back on his feet and was angry at himself that he couldn't hold onto it. The third down wasn't too crucial. It's preaseason and the Pack won pretty easily. If taking shots at the kid I would of gone more towards the long TD he got which looked like a fluke where he just out ran everyone. I see real value in the Pack passing game this year QB, WR1 and WR2 as it looks like they won't be able to run much. I think that Jennings will be that #2 WR. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jarvis Basnight 119 Posted August 21, 2006 --favre looked great last night. i still don't trust him at this point in his career or that line, though. still thinking driver's the only safe ff option on that team. again, i'll take a chance on a young guy with upside but from old dudes like favre i want consistency. i don't think he's capable of that anymore. he'll have a monster game here and there this year and the rest of the time get his brains beat in and have that deer-in-headlights look. no thanks. Dude. Seriously. Can you be a little bit more blatant with your fishing trip? For one thing, "who is catching your attention" was the topic. You decided to bring up Favre's decent outing just so you could slam him was pretty obvious and petty. And secondly, Favre is presently going around the 18th to 20th among QB's so he's not going to be a real make or break player for anyone. He's a good #2 QB at an ADP that's at the end of the 10th round. Not even worthy you of mentioning in this thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GhostofMeanMachine99 1 Posted August 21, 2006 For value, LJ Smith. McNabb has throw alot of balls his way so far. If the young WRs can't step up this year, he (along with Westbrook) will be the primary target in the passing game. I haven't seen him rated in any top 5 for TEs this year, but I can see him putting up top 5 TE numbers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
De Novo 0 Posted August 21, 2006 Greg Jennings, WR GB I've heard his route running is awesome and he has a rapport with Favre. Also, whispers are that he looks like a young Marvin Harrison. I think he will be #2 receiver in GB sooner rather than later, and be most productive rookie WR. Every freakin year, there's a Packer WR that looks like the next Antonio Freeman or Marvin Harrison. It almost always turns out to be bullsh1t. I remember when Corey Bradford went 7th round in one of my drafts because of all the hype. I don't buy it anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swamp dog 0 Posted August 22, 2006 Did you see the play? He extended for the ball, took a vicious hit that knocked the ball out, got right back on his feet and was angry at himself that he couldn't hold onto it. The third down wasn't too crucial. It's preaseason and the Pack won pretty easily. If taking shots at the kid I would of gone more towards the long TD he got which looked like a fluke where he just out ran everyone. I see real value in the Pack passing game this year QB, WR1 and WR2 as it looks like they won't be able to run much. I think that Jennings will be that #2 WR. yes i saw the play. you're being too kind and apologetic to jennings on that. but that's immaterial. he's a rookie wr coming from a mac school. he may turn out to be something someday but anyone who drafts him in a re-draft this year and thinks he's going to do anything remotely consistently is being a blind homer or a fool or both. history is stacked against him. in ff, you play the percentages with rookie wrs, which means you avoid them unless your league has a "dynasty" or "keeper" word attached to the end of it. i can tell you that i've seen jennings in both games so far: he's shown flashes but looks like a rookie wr in the nfl. chad johnson was much more highly thought of coming out college, and he was an early round 2 pick. his rookie stats? 29 catches for about 380 yards. at this point, jennings hasn't yet started ahead of ferguson (to correct other erroneous reports). i doubt mccarthy is chomping at the bit to start a rookie wr. you've been warned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OMarcFL 0 Posted August 22, 2006 That kid backing up Dillon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duffman 0 Posted August 22, 2006 Frank Gore: 7 rush for 42 yards............he has my attention. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GhostofMeanMachine99 1 Posted August 22, 2006 Every freakin year, there's a Packer WR that looks like the next Antonio Freeman or Marvin Harrison. It almost always turns out to be bullsh1t. I remember when Corey Bradford went 7th round in one of my drafts because of all the hype. I don't buy it anymore. Hey, I'm still waiting for Robert Ferguson. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ratbastard1 0 Posted August 22, 2006 wr sleepers are who i like to find - these guys aren't sleepers, but middle round high percentage guys last week coles had a ton of receptions - #1 target - good good all you can ask for this week - Mason had 7 receptions #1 target - good good all you can ask for i like it man...this level is who we need to be talking about. We know the early rounds, its the middle tier analysis thats key right now. well done js Mason, Coles, Rod Smith, Keyshawn, McCardel, Bennett, Givens, Bryant, Glenn, Bruce, Moulds, Jurevicious, Horn etc these guys are key to anyone still going with "Stud RB". (probably me) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rye & Leaf 0 Posted August 22, 2006 For value, LJ Smith. I haven't seen him rated in any top 5 for TEs this year, but I can see him putting up top 5 TE numbers. yup Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gpann101 32 Posted August 22, 2006 Well...Droughns going through a year of worries until trial...Jerome Harrison has opened up my eyes! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
donhaas 18 Posted August 22, 2006 Dude. Seriously. Can you be a little bit more blatant with your fishing trip? For one thing, "who is catching your attention" was the topic. You decided to bring up Favre's decent outing just so you could slam him was pretty obvious and petty. And secondly, Favre is presently going around the 18th to 20th among QB's so he's not going to be a real make or break player for anyone. He's a good #2 QB at an ADP that's at the end of the 10th round. Not even worthy you of mentioning in this thread. He is a sad, sad little man. He's been banned from Packer threads so he's bashing them in threads that it doesn't even make sense to bash them in. What a sad life he leads. He's like a pathetic alcoholic. He pledges to do something, but old habits never die. Welchdog Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ritchings 0 Posted August 22, 2006 The "hot chick" from LOST..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
donhaas 18 Posted August 22, 2006 Every freakin year, there's a Packer WR that looks like the next Antonio Freeman or Marvin Harrison. It almost always turns out to be bullsh1t. I remember when Corey Bradford went 7th round in one of my drafts because of all the hype. I don't buy it anymore. How'd Donald Driver and Javon Walker work out for you? I hope you didn't buy that hype. Favre pulled 3 1000-yard seasons out of Billy Freakin' Schroeder a few years ago but he was never hyped that much. Every freakin' year? Name the 7 Packer receivers the last 7 years that have been overhyped. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
De Novo 0 Posted August 22, 2006 How'd Donald Driver and Javon Walker work out for you? I hope you didn't buy that hype. Favre pulled 3 1000-yard seasons out of Billy Freakin' Schroeder a few years ago but he was never hyped that much. Every freakin' year? Name the 7 Packer receivers the last 7 years that have been overhyped. You're right. The performers haven't got consistent hype year after year, because they're performed. Schroeder and Walker just did their thing. No talk for 2 or 3 years about how they were going to take the incumbent's job--they just did it. It was Derrick Mayes in '96 and '97. It was Corey Bradford in '97, '98 and '99. You heard about Driver like he was ready to be a Pro Bowler in '00 and '01. He didn't do squat until '02, and then sucked ass in '03. In '02, '03, '04, and '05 you heard about how Robert Ferguson was going to be the #1 guy and he and Favre were hooking up so much. There were reports in '04 and '05 that Antonio Chatman was going to take Driver's job because he was so freaking awesome and he and Favre had such a good rapport. It's just manlove coming from the Green Bay media and I'm not buying into any of it. Driver will put up good numbers this year. Ferguson will put up OK numbers. Nobody else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ruphus 0 Posted August 22, 2006 i know it's only preseason, so we'll take it with a grain of salt. but what guys are looking impressive so far? B. Gradkowski QB - Tampa Bay This guy looks great considering he's a rook. I know it's preseason and he's working with 2-4th stringers and playing against the same, but man does he make quick decisions and throw a decent ball. Not a big fan of the Bucs, but I think they are screwing up not giving this guy a shot with the 1st team. Simms looks like a lost soul running Grudens offense, but this rook has it down, makes great decisions and gets rid of the ball extremely fast. Not a real quick release like Marino had, but how quick he makes a decision and delivers is what impressed me, and they were usually the right decisions. Reggie Bush.... Man, if he could only be on a stud team that has no good RB's. He dances a bit, but he does have some great moves and can break to the outside very quickly. He would be the perfect compliment to a big, bruising back / full back like Alstott, Duckett, etc etc. I still wouldn't want him as a #1-3 RB on my fantasy team this year though, unless I could keep him real cheap next year Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shasha 0 Posted August 22, 2006 Vincent Jackson, WR, SD. He is a huge target and I really think that he has the potential to catch on this year. Rivers is a question mark, but he has looked good. Speaking of Rivers, I think that he could be a lot better than people think. Given his history and the way that he has looked so far he could be a real value pick. Travis Taylor, WR, MIN. I can't remember a season where I didn't think that this guy sucked ass. But he has been a favorite target of Johnson so far and with Robinson 'getting his drink on' he should be the #1 or #2 out there. Williamson is going to draw a little bit of attention because of his speed so Taylor should get plenty of room during the game. Brad Johnson is another one I like this year. The guy just goes in there and quietly puts up solid numbers. Could be top 5 this year and be had for a song. Mason and Coles are 2 others that I am looking at as second tier, value based guys. Both are reunited with the QB's that made them famous and both are in good positions to crack the top 15 at minimum. I especially like Mason who always gets open, has great hands and runs really well after the catch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
donhaas 18 Posted August 22, 2006 You're right. The performers haven't got consistent hype year after year, because they're performed. Schroeder and Walker just did their thing. No talk for 2 or 3 years about how they were going to take the incumbent's job--they just did it. It was Derrick Mayes in '96 and '97. It was Corey Bradford in '97, '98 and '99. You heard about Driver like he was ready to be a Pro Bowler in '00 and '01. He didn't do squat until '02, and then sucked ass in '03. In '02, '03, '04, and '05 you heard about how Robert Ferguson was going to be the #1 guy and he and Favre were hooking up so much. There were reports in '04 and '05 that Antonio Chatman was going to take Driver's job because he was so freaking awesome and he and Favre had such a good rapport. It's just manlove coming from the Green Bay media and I'm not buying into any of it. Driver will put up good numbers this year. Ferguson will put up OK numbers. Nobody else. THere were never reports anywhere that Chatman was going to take Driver's job... He's a 5' 8" world league receiver and a kick returner who had 7 career catches to match a bunch of studly seasons Driver had put together. YOu're silly to insinuate anything else. Driver was a 7th round pick who bloomed late. Nobody (even in GB) knew who he was until he broke out in '02. Ferguson was never predicted to be the #1 guy for four years . You are nuts. So you're saying Walker went for 1350 and in the same season Driver went for 1250 and all the hype out of GB was over Ferguson's 200 yards ? Are you making this sh!t up? Mayes and Bradford were backups. I don't know who told you to draft them, but as a GB fan I could have told you that it's a bad idea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites