Brett Favre is a Coach-Killer.... unbelievable....

[RoadLizard 73]

After what seemed like a great idea, the Jets ended up actually getting screwed by Favre and his HORRIBLE play cost them the playoffs and Eric Mangina his job. No, Mangina wasnt the second coming of Vince Lombardi or anything but the guy didnt make those piss-poor throws and didnt look like a washed up piece of sh!t either.

 

Of course, management will cover their arse which they did by firing Mangina. The problem is that NO coach with any sense will take that job as long as Favre is there because they are gauranteed to have high expectations and Favre is gauranteed to NOT meet those expectations. Then, the new Coach will be blamed and likely canned. Wow. Just wow.

 

Favre has redefined the phrase "holding on too long". He is completely useless in every sense of the word. Good Luck, Jets fan!

[NewbieJr 541]

After what seemed like a great idea, the Jets ended up actually getting screwed by Favre and his HORRIBLE play cost them the playoffs and Eric Mangina his job. No, Mangina wasnt the second coming of Vince Lombardi or anything but the guy didnt make those piss-poor throws and didnt look like a washed up piece of sh!t either.

 

Of course, management will cover their arse which they did by firing Mangina. The problem is that NO coach with any sense will take that job as long as Favre is there because they are gauranteed to have high expectations and Favre is gauranteed to NOT meet those expectations. Then, the new Coach will be blamed and likely canned. Wow. Just wow.

 

Favre has redefined the phrase "holding on too long". He is completely useless in every sense of the word. Good Luck, Jets fan!

He only 'held on too long' for the last five weeks of the season. Early on, up until November, he was playing well. Certainly top 50% of the league's QBs. If his shoulder was really bothering him that much, Mangini should have had the balls to pull teh plug on him and go with the backup. He hadn't been playing well for 5 or 6 weeks.

 

It would have been a huge decision, and certainly not an easy one, but it would have defined Mangini as a leader, decision-maker, and head coach. Because he failed in doing that, he lost his job.

 

If you want to make the argument that Favre's bad play down the stretch cost Mangini his job, that may be correct, but Favre wasn't the coach, Mangini was.

[Phurfur 70]

He only 'held on too long' for the last five weeks of the season. Early on, up until November, he was playing well. Certainly top 50% of the league's QBs. If his shoulder was really bothering him that much, Mangini should have had the balls to pull teh plug on him and go with the backup. He hadn't been playing well for 5 or 6 weeks.

 

It would have been a huge decision, and certainly not an easy one, but it would have defined Mangini as a leader, decision-maker, and head coach. Because he failed in doing that, he lost his job.

If you want to make the argument that Favre's bad play down the stretch cost Mangini his job, that may be correct, but Favre wasn't the coach, Mangini was.

 

Now that is a real reach.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

If we have to endure another whole summer of "will he won't he" again, I really hope somebody just takes his focking knee out with a lead pipe instead. What is that Tonya Harding chick up to these days?

[RoadLizard 73]

If we have to endure another whole summer of "will he won't he" again, I really hope somebody just takes his focking knee out with a lead pipe instead. What is that Tonya Harding chick up to these days?

 

Yeah, really. The NFL will probably cut into playoff game coverage to keep us all posted on his daily routines. Focking joke.

[Phurfur 70]

If we have to endure another whole summer of "will he won't he" again, I really hope somebody just takes his focking knee out with a lead pipe instead. What is that Tonya Harding chick up to these days?

 

 

You want to talk to Jeff Gillooly.

[edjr 6,982]

You want to talk to Jeff Gillooly.

 

Oh really?

 

He hatched the worst plan of all time and hired a 300 pound guy that couldn't even take out Nancy Kerrigan? what good is he?

[PackYourNut 47]

The problem is that NO coach with any sense will take that job as long as Favre is there because they are gauranteed to have high expectations and Favre is gauranteed to NOT meet those expectations.

 

 

I hear Cowher is interested! Hmmm....

[NewbieJr 541]

Now that is a real reach.

Really?

Favre has played horrible down the stretch. Whether it was because of his shoulder or because of old-age, that fact can't be denied. Either Mangini still thought he was their best chance to win or he didn't have the guts to bench him. That's not a quality of a capable coach.

[Mephisto 15]

Yeah, it must suck to be Farve. I've seen some bad passes, but I would argue that at LEAST half of those passes were balls that should have been caught by the receiver and were deflected into INTs, or in the case yesterday, that last one, went RIGHT THROUGH Stuckey's hands. It was a flat-out perfect slant pass that the receiver just flat-out missed.

 

Yeah, that Favre he sucks.

[Justy2 0]

Yeah, it must suck to be Farve. I've seen some bad passes, but I would argue that at LEAST half of those passes were balls that should have been caught by the receiver and were deflected into INTs, or in the case yesterday, that last one, went RIGHT THROUGH Stuckey's hands. It was a flat-out perfect slant pass that the receiver just flat-out missed.

 

Yeah, that Favre he sucks.

 

Take off the kneepads man, The Int-machine is getting into the Hall on the merit of a few good seasons in Green Bay. He doesn't need any more servicing.

 

That last Int, the one that killed the game, was a classic Farv I am in my own dreamworld pass. There were no receivers in the same time zone of that pass.

 

Farv was a primadonna and Mangenius couldn't handle the primadonna. They both nuked each other. Farv will live on to do Viagra commercials. Whereas Mangenius will live on to coach Pee Wee League football in a drunken stupor. Little Johnny better watch out or the Rat will nail his old man for suiting up a 12 year old who is a few pounds overweight.

[PackYourNut 47]

Take off the kneepads man, The Int-machine is getting into the Hall on the merit of a few good seasons in Green Bay. He doesn't need any more servicing.

 

 

LMAO a few good seasons and EVERY major QB record, including INT's...

[Phurfur 70]

Really?

Favre has played horrible down the stretch. Whether it was because of his shoulder or because of old-age, that fact can't be denied. Either Mangini still thought he was their best chance to win or he didn't have the guts to bench him. That's not a quality of a capable coach.

 

 

The reach is your assuming that if he had benched Favre he would still have a job.

[Phurfur 70]

Yeah, it must suck to be Farve. I've seen some bad passes, but I would argue that at LEAST half of those passes were balls that should have been caught by the receiver and were deflected into INTs, or in the case yesterday, that last one, went RIGHT THROUGH Stuckey's hands. It was a flat-out perfect slant pass that the receiver just flat-out missed.

 

Yeah, that Favre he sucks.

 

 

I've heard this out of GB for 16 years now it is coming out of NY. The only thing they have in common is the QB.

 

I noticed you didn't mention the int on the screen pass to T. Jones.

[berven 0]

Favre is justifiably proud of his record for consecutive starts by a QB. Isn't he now just a couple of games shy of breaking Marshall's record for consecutive starts by an NFL player? I suspect that Favre was concealing injury for awhile to avoid the bench. If so, he was placing the record ahead of the team.

[Sho Nuff 720]

Yeah, it must suck to be Farve. I've seen some bad passes, but I would argue that at LEAST half of those passes were balls that should have been caught by the receiver and were deflected into INTs, or in the case yesterday, that last one, went RIGHT THROUGH Stuckey's hands. It was a flat-out perfect slant pass that the receiver just flat-out missed.

 

Yeah, that Favre he sucks.

 

So one of his 3 INTs was a decent pass?

The other two were awful.

Ive done this before...and will do it and agree the one pass was a perfectly catchable ball.

But come on...at least half? No. No. No.

[Sho Nuff 720]

Favre is justifiably proud of his record for consecutive starts by a QB. Isn't he now just a couple of games shy of breaking Marshall's record for consecutive starts by an NFL player? I suspect that Favre was concealing injury for awhile to avoid the bench. If so, he was placing the record ahead of the team.

 

Wow...now that is some tinfoil hat BS right there.

[listen2me 23 1,958]

To be a coach killer wouldn't you have to kill more than one coach?

 

[Phurfur 70]

Favre is justifiably proud of his record for consecutive starts by a QB. Isn't he now just a couple of games shy of breaking Marshall's record for consecutive starts by an NFL player? I suspect that Favre was concealing injury for awhile to avoid the bench. If so, he was placing the record ahead of the team.

 

 

Marshall's record is 282 games. I think Favre is around 260.

[ssharpe12 0]

I hear Cowher is interested! Hmmm....

 

Yeah, I bet Cowher could take his knees out. or at least have it arranged.

[BMoney 0]

What is that Tonya Harding chick up to these days?

 

 

up to about 250 pounds.....

[49ER MAN 0]

To be a coach killer wouldn't you have to kill more than one coach?

 

 

He killed the Pack too...partially...

[Phurfur 70]

He killed the Pack too...partially...

 

 

Explain?

 

I don't think anything could be further from the truth.

[ROCKET 0]

And now Thomas Jones is saying Favre is the suck too and should have been benched.

[Cuse9 131]

And now Thomas Jones is saying Favre is the suck too and should have been benched.

Jones had quite a few years of sucking himself. A good teammate isn't going to throw their teammates under the bus. You win and lose as a team. The Jets not making the playoffs falls on everyone's shoulders. I thought Jones was a decent guy, I guess he's no different than TO.

 

"It's not my fault". Fock off Jones.

 

Favre was arguable the first half MVP. Did he fall apart, it appears he did. I refuse to believe it all Favre's fault and for any of the players to try and put the blame on any one individual shows their ignorance and self centeredness (is that a word). I'm not a Favre fan and it doesn't matter much to me if he comes back or not, but they are trying to put too much of the blame on him now. Hey Jones, man up and accept responsibility for your own actions. Your 23 yards rushing vs Miami didn't help any!

[RoadLizard 73]

To be a coach killer wouldn't you have to kill more than one coach?

 

 

He will be killing more coaches. Whoever coahces the Jets is doomed as long as Favre is there. He is tarnishing his image with his offseason BS, poor overall play, and his "chip on his shoulder" attitude.

[Sho Nuff 720]

Jones had quite a few years of sucking himself. A good teammate isn't going to throw their teammates under the bus. You win and lose as a team. The Jets not making the playoffs falls on everyone's shoulders. I thought Jones was a decent guy, I guess he's no different than TO.

 

"It's not my fault". Fock off Jones.

 

Favre was arguable the first half MVP. Did he fall apart, it appears he did. I refuse to believe it all Favre's fault and for any of the players to try and put the blame on any one individual shows their ignorance and self centeredness (is that a word). I'm not a Favre fan and it doesn't matter much to me if he comes back or not, but they are trying to put too much of the blame on him now. Hey Jones, man up and accept responsibility for your own actions. Your 23 yards rushing vs Miami didn't help any!

 

Favre had a good stretch there with the Pats and Titans game for sure...got into the MVP run, but then was bad.

But here is another one today...

 

http://www.newsday.com/sports/football/jet...0,7764382.story

 

"There was a lot of resentment in the room about him," a Jets player told Newsday yesterday. He requested anonymity because team owner Woody Johnson has stated publicly that Favre is welcome to return next season if he wants to. (Favre reportedly will take until the end of February to decide about returning.)

 

The 39-year-old quarterback is not as welcome with his teammates, according to this veteran. After the Jets traded for Favre Aug. 6, the sure Hall of Famer made no effort to ingratiate himself with the already assembled team, the veteran said. He said Favre spent most of his down time at the practice facility in an office specially designated for him near the equipment room, not with teammates in the locker room, even after the media departed.

 

"He never socialized with us, never went to dinner with anyone," the player said. Asked to describe Favre in a word, he said: "Distant."

 

According to the player - and he was backed by very supportive comments about Mangini from other Jets - very few in the room thought Mangini deserved to be fired, and that the acquisition of Favre and his subsequent "me-first" attitude hurt the Jets more than anything.

[Busted by the Feds 9]

It showed at the end of the last game. Pennington looked more like he was still a member of the Jets than Favre. A lot of the Jets players were congratulating Pennington on the field, while Favre was heading into the locker room already, all by himself.