bfros

update: trade got rejected with the note "let me wait one more week to see how CMC/Mitchell usage shakes out. If they split again with similar volume for CMC I'll consider Cook for CMC" . I expected this. But still he considered it for 5 days. He's a stingy owner. I bet with more gunslinger owners, CMC could have been had this week.

Yes I will, bro. I put the offer out two days ago and the owner has not accepted or declined it. He is thinking it over. I'll update. I expect him to reject it but it's telling that he's been thinking it over for 2 days now. Moral of the story---if you have a top 5'ish RB and you want to try to get CMC I think it's possible in some leagues. Try it. even if only 25% of the offers are successful, that's good.

nah. Jackson can easily get him the ball. His arm is solid. He'd be open a ton cause Balt run game is solid and Lamar can run it and Andrews takes coverage. Beckham would have at least 20% pass volume and high air yards

correction: "throw **him the ball" Lamar can get him the ball as well as Dak, with less competition for targets on the outside

exactly. this. This is why I'd try to trade to get CMC and hope the CMC owner doesn't see it this way and is worried about CMC splitting with Mitchell. But I agree with you--CMC's floor is extremely high even if he is splitting. I also see chatter about CMC's injury risk..Yes, sure. But him splitting actually reduces his injury risk...esp above the risk Cook and Barkely have with their workloads, esp Barkely who is a huge injury risk as much contact as he is. I mean last week he was hit over 40 times.

I doubt it’s about money…prob has to do with his lack of desire to go there versus other spots to play with dudes he likes, like Dak.

Anybody have an idea why the Ravens aren’t pursuing Beckham? They need a WR way more than any other team he’s been linked to, Balt is def a playoff contender with elite QB and great coaching. why not the Ravens? Any guesses? ((esp now that desean Jackson is hurt, big surprise, and Andrews still not right)

well Shanahan just did the exact opposite and used him a split, and it worked great. Mitchell looked great. There are gonna be CMC owners who will deal him for Cook. Hell, Weepaws above admitted said he would. I hear that you would not, but people will. That's why I'm asking. Forget my two guys (Cook and Barkley). The point is that after last week CMC's position as the RB1 ROS may be vulnerable. Folks might want to try to nab him. I'm not wrong about that.

Right, I conceeded that point in my post. I do wonder if CMC and Cook will both have about the same number of touches. If they are even remotely close (and I think they very well could be), I'd prefer CMC. I see CMC outproducing Cook in the pass game even with Mitchell playing, so it really comes down to whether Cook can be more efficient with his carries than CMC will be. I think it could be very close.

I tend to agree. Barkley just has so so much volume (and talent), although I'd much prefer the SF offense and run game over the Giants. But still, hard to deal him for CMC esp now that CMC will split with Mitchell.

the CMC owner might trade for Cook because he sees CMC in a split backfield now having just been outproduced by Mitchell plus the coach admitting it's gonna be 50/50. There's certainly reason. Plus Cook just flashed. And he's the bellcow on a good offense. I would never offer Cook plus something for CMC. That's too much imo

prior this week, most had CMC as the undisputed top RB rest of season. Then Mitchell returned and ate into his carries (substantially) and Shanahan then admits after game that he'd like to see a 50/50 split between CMC and Mitchell going forward. So...... I still think CMC's value is very high in that offense. I have D.Cook and Barkley as my top 2 RBs. 1/2 ppr. Would you try to trade either for CMC? I'm hesitant but thinking about it, esp Dalvin Cook after his big game. I'm not sure he has quite the ceiling that CMC does. He is the bellcow for Minn but he's only topped 100 rushing yards twice this year and his rushing volume (touches) is not super high. Could be close to what CMC's is per game going forward. For ex, last week Cook carried it 14 times. CMC also had 14 carries (but more receptions). Feels like CMC may have a higher floor. Would you trade Cook to get CMC?

this is a good question. Assuming Fournette still plays and Swift remains in the picture, there is no obvious answer. I like Detroits fantasy playoff schedule a lot more than the Bucs. So edge there to J.Williams. Also Williams is the CLEAR goaline RB whereas Fournette will remain involved at the goaline, maybe even more so than White. Redzone touches and TDs are what you want. I also think Fournette retains the edge in the passing game over White, so in PPR I don't see White edging out Williams. I'm gonna lean towards Williams because his schedule is better and he gets the high-value touches. Even if Swift eats into things, these two facts stay true. If Fournette continues to maintain his edge in passing work and goal-line touches, that hurts White's upside.

Trade decisions around injured guys are so impossibly tricky to get right. I tend to err on the side of not trading for hurt dudes, but it's tough. Another example right now is J.Chase. Do I pursue him in a trade? And at what cost? The guy who owns him isn't gonna sell him low, so ya gotta be willing to take a risk. Or now with Kupp's injury and uncertainty around that, it's so damn hard to know what his actual value is versus his perceived value.

I sat on the offer and then practice report came out that Taylor was going to practice and then dude pulled the trade, so I didn't get it. I'm kicking myself for missing that. So close to pulling the trigger, too. At least Fournette's injury isn't season ending and I do have White, so I'm ok.