Ray_T

well, Mac Jones has looked better so far this year. though when you have a year thats broken with injury to the extent it has been, its sometimes hard to get back on track.

looks like you were right. I'm amazed. usually when the QB throws 3 early game INT its a blowout loss. San Fran is actually winning despite this. granted... the game is not over. but still......

Iosivas: 4 catches 61 yards. in PPR thats a 10 point game. solid for a waiver wire pickup

3 catches 74 yards and a TD. not fantastic in the sense he only had 3 catches..... but also... not bad.

agreed. Baker has historically been fairly healthy, so the need hasnt arisen much of late. but they also signed some big dollar contracts lately, so maybe its a case where they couldnt sign a good backup because of the contract money that is already outstanding.

for some reason I seem to think they had an injury or two to the O line. I'll admit I am going from memory (which may not be as good as I'd like) and I'm too lazy to look it up but I seem to think that was a bit of a thing in Philly. if that is the case we'd be ignorant to think that wont affect the underlying numbers in the run game as well as the offense as a whole. its also possible its a superbowl hangover and the team is just not taking things as serious as its not yet playoff time.

lots of QB get named the starter after a decent performance. then lose the job 2-3 games later. being named the starter means absolutely nothing at this point. it just means hes gonna start the next football game. if his performance is questionable and the off field stuff becomes an issue it is very possible they give him the hook. right now its not like the team has a whole lot of choice. The only player likely to unseat him got hurt and may not be 100%. I'm not sure what the recovery timeline was looking like but at this point the team naming him the starter means absolutely nothing if there is nobody on the roster in line to unseat him if he doesnt perform. so yeah, interesting in the sense that Cleveland really has little choice in the matter of who starts. but that's about it.

oh just to clarify. when I said average to above average starter, I meant that is what his upside is. there is still the possibility he never becomes a regular starter. but he has the look of a guy who can possibly play. if he can keep his off field stupidity to a minimum

Less than that. but not by much. either way, you have made your point and I dont disagree. hes likely to be an average to slightly above average NFL starter with some off field issues. I felt it was the clown show and his immaturity as a player keeping him off the field more than it was his talent. When a player is a clown show off the field, you dont generally want them leading your team unless they can put up all star calibre play. when the play is THAT good you can get away with some of those intangibles being bad. but when it isnt THAT good, the intangibles turn into a cancer in the dressing room. I think he will perform at a decent level. But not good enough given the off field clown show that seems to follow this guy. That said, he has had some humble pie. and you have to hope if you are a cleveland fan that this dose of humble pie is enough. Personally I think he needed to sit a little longer. but the injury forced the team into this move. if the kid performs there will be all kinds of pressure to stick with the kid. if he performs.... Hopefully he remembers the humble pie at the draft table and in waiting for a chance to start. if he forgets, he may soon find himself on the bench again in the near future.

well, my philosophy is not many TE can score at the pace of a starting WR. So if a TE capable of doing that is on the board in round 3-5 I take him. At that point you are into WR2/3 territory and you are filling a spot that for some teams will be a dead spot on the roster getting no more than 5 or 6 points per week. and when a player gives you an advantage of 3-5 points every week they are worthy of an early round pick. only downside, if you take a TE that early you had better be sure of what hes gonna deliver. you take a TE early and whiff on the pick thats a big loss. so if taking a TE (or QB) early you NEED to nail the pick.

I've liked Iosivas for a while. but hes just not getting the looks. and fair enough.... with Chase and Higgins on the roster why would you give him a lot of looks? So with Chase gone for a game or two, I dont mind Iosivas.

no guarantee he is horrible as a player. one of the negatives that caused him to slide was the attitude he took with him into interviews. if he came off as an entitled (or spoiled) brat, that attitude could have actually been what has kept him off of the field. Talent wise I feel hes the best QB in Cleveland. but succeeding at QB requires more than just talent. it requires committment, a willingness/desire to learn the right attitude, and an ability to lead others. and the clown show likely didnt endear him to management. sometimes the decision not to play someone comes down to the off field stuff. And I think that especially goes for Sheduer. it is far too early to judge if hes got what it takes. lots of QB have flopped in their first pro game. John Elway and Peyton Manning are two of those. its how you bounce back that counts. so I'd say at this point we need to see if hes got some bounce back in him

yeah given time missed I'd say looking at this as a fantasy points/Games played. might give you a better indicator of who is the better player.

the odds of him being a worthy start are considerably higher with MHJ out of the lineup. Mooney is a guy cousins had a connection with when he did play last year. that familiarity likely makes him a reasonable candidate to be a solid play. obviously if you have good options at WR3 you can sit him. but if you have been bitten by the injury bug and are in need, hes a reasonable option. quite often when a backup QB gets thrown in to start, someone from the backup squad ends up having a mini breakout of sorts because they have a connection with the backup QB due to practice reps together. This is no different. I'm not predicting a huge week but I dont think hed be a terrible start if you were in need. dude is likely on the wire in a lot of leagues and can be had for free. its not like its a high risk move even if he sits on your bench. Most teams have a scrub backup that this guy can likely outperform. at the very least... he should be rostered.

with Cousins at QB I can see Mooney being a must grab pickup for WR3 production. With cousins he put up solid stats last year. I think they re establish that connection. obviously if cousins gets benched at any point, Mooney's value returns to what his value has been so far this year.