SI's summary of the Deadskins off season moves

[Guest stevejohnson]

Washington: The Redskins were saved from salary-cap hell by the new CBA extension, which freed up another $7 million-plus of cap space, allowing them to avoid having to dismantle their roster. So what do they do? Rush right out and get themselves mortgaged back up to the gills, tossing out a staggering $31.8 million, six-year contract to the Rams' Adam Archuleta, making him the richest safety in NFL history.

 

Receiver Antwaan Randle El and linebacker Andre Carter also got hefty deals, and Washington opted to send both a third- and fourth-round pick to San Francisco in exchange for inconsistent receiver Brandon Lloyd. Even reserve tight end Fauria and backup quarterback Todd Collins got in on the money train.

 

The Redskins' set-the-market contracts are bound to catch up to them one day. My guess is it'll be after head coach Joe Gibbs calls it a career for a second time, in a year or two.

 

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As pissed as I am about the Eagles not going after Hutchinson, J. Peterson, or M. Anderson and losing out on Bentley, at least they didn't just throw crazy money away on average players. Snyder needs to stop running the Redskins like a fantasy football team!

[Sho Nuff 720]

You have an obsession with Readskin fans? Or basically just bashing fans of every team...including your own....

 

[RightCoastSurfer 1]

Washington: The Redskins were saved from salary-cap hell by the new CBA extension, which freed up another $7 million-plus of cap space, allowing them to avoid having to dismantle their roster. So what do they do? Rush right out and get themselves mortgaged back up to the gills, tossing out a staggering $31.8 million, six-year contract to the Rams' Adam Archuleta, making him the richest safety in NFL history.

 

Receiver Antwaan Randle El and linebacker Andre Carter also got hefty deals, and Washington opted to send both a third- and fourth-round pick to San Francisco in exchange for inconsistent receiver Brandon Lloyd. Even reserve tight end Fauria and backup quarterback Todd Collins got in on the money train.

 

The Redskins' set-the-market contracts are bound to catch up to them one day. My guess is it'll be after head coach Joe Gibbs calls it a career for a second time, in a year or two.

 

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As pissed as I am about the Eagles not going after Hutchinson, J. Peterson, or M. Anderson and losing out on Bentley, at least they didn't just throw crazy money away on average players. Snyder needs to stop running the Redskins like a fantasy football team!

 

Crazy money? So what. Why do you care what Snyder spends? You people hating on Snyder sound like a broken record. You can't seem to grasp that his strategies on building a team differs from other owners. He's paying for a proven commodity vs. an unknown. Drafting is great when it works out, or you can end up with Ryan Leaf. Mark B is ancient and its pretty obvious that this is his last year. It makes sense for Gibbs to make pick up whatever FA's he deems nescessary to make a run this year. Yeah Danny overpayed, but so what. I'd rather have a big spender over a miser anyday.

[Guest stevejohnson]

You have an obsession with Readskin fans? Or basically just bashing fans of every team...including your own....

 

 

 

No, I'm just sick of hearing baout how great the Deadskins will be this year and clearly so are the guys at SI.

 

Outside of that Homer moron, what other teams/people have I "bashed"? I have actually given props to the Pats, Lions, and Vikings just to name a few......Get your facts straight before coming to the big boy table chief!

 

Crazy money? So what. Why do you care what Snyder spends? You people hating on Snyder sound like a broken record. You can't seem to grasp that his strategies on building a team differs from other owners. He's paying for a proven commodity vs. an unknown. Drafting is great when it works out, or you can end up with Ryan Leaf. Mark B is ancient and its pretty obvious that this is his last year. It makes sense for Gibbs to make pick up whatever FA's he deems nescessary to make a run this year. Yeah Danny overpayed, but so what. I'd rather have a big spender over a miser anyday.

 

 

Just an FYI, SI wrote the article, not me......You are right about one thing though, at least Synder trys to spend money to improve (even though his waste it on average players). I wish the Eagles would open up the purse strings a bit......maybe they are just waiting to pick up E, Moulds, who is better then either Lloyd or Randle El?

[listen2me 23 1,977]

ok?...............

[Cruzer 1,996]

As much as I hate the rest of the division - I understand it's just flat out better when all the teams in the East are good. In fact, I'd rather have it that way. Personally, I think Danny boy has way overspent on his new acquisitions - in Randle's case, he overpaid by $13 million. But I do agree that I'd rather have a pro-active owner goof up on the side of trying.

 

Jerry Jones tried like hell (and wanted to be) Al Davis when he first came into the league. Now Danny boy Snyder is trying like hell to be Jerry Jones. Only time will tell if his way nets him 3 titles.

[Sho Nuff 720]

Big boy table?

 

Call me when you make it there pal.

 

You slinging insults from the fold up table in the garage will not cut it here.

[RightCoastSurfer 1]

As much as I hate the rest of the division - I understand it's just flat out better when all the teams in the East are good. In fact, I'd rather have it that way. Personally, I think Danny boy has way overspent on his new acquisitions - in Randle's case, he overpaid by $13 million. But I do agree that I'd rather have a pro-active owner goof up on the side of trying.

 

Jerry Jones tried like hell (and wanted to be) Al Davis when he first came into the league. Now Danny boy Snyder is trying like hell to be Jerry Jones. Only time will tell if his way nets him 3 titles.

 

 

Danny openly talks about consulting with JJ as soon as he became owner of the Redskins. I like a guy who can swallow his pride and ask advice from our biggest enemy.

 

 

Only time will tell if these moves will bring a championship to DC.

[listen2me 23 1,977]

stevejohnson looks like the early leader in most retarded, pointless poster race.....

 

but the season has just begun, although steve looks like he's in a commanding lead...

[Guest stevejohnson]

stevejohnson looks like the early leader in most retarded, pointless poster race.....

 

but the season has just begun, although steve looks like he's in a commanding lead...

 

Ah, another Deadskins fan. All I did is re-post a story SI did about the Skins. Save your hate for the regular season chief!

[listen2me 23 1,977]

Ah, another Deadskins fan. All I did is re-post a story SI did about the Skins. Save your hate for the regular season chief!

 

Im a packer fan idiot.

 

Im a packer fan idiot.

 

and the deadskin thing is getting old and annoying....come up with a better name than that...

[Portis26 0]

The Redskins' set-the-market contracts are bound to catch up to them one day

 

Skins fans have heard this before.

 

Crazy money? So what. Why do you care what Snyder spends? You people hating on Snyder sound like a broken record. You can't seem to grasp that his strategies on building a team differs from other owners. He's paying for a proven commodity vs. an unknown. Drafting is great when it works out, or you can end up with Ryan Leaf. Mark B is ancient and its pretty obvious that this is his last year. It makes sense for Gibbs to make pick up whatever FA's he deems nescessary to make a run this year. Yeah Danny overpayed, but so what. I'd rather have a big spender over a miser anyday

 

Very Well Said

 

Mr stevejohnson -- You are making one heck of a name for yourself! Your insight has been unmatched! Your knowledge is off the charts!

 

**MOST IMPORTANT QUESTION **

- How did you get a seat at the big boy table??

[ArnieBragg 2]

It amazes me that these "writers" are still getting the 'Skins cap situation (pre or post CBA extension) wrong.

 

Is it just ignorance or lazy "journalism"?

[Guest stevejohnson]

Skins fans have heard this before.

Very Well Said

 

Mr stevejohnson -- You are making one heck of a name for yourself! Your insight has been unmatched! Your knowledge is off the charts!

 

**MOST IMPORTANT QUESTION **

- How did you get a seat at the big boy table??

 

 

Yeah, you guys are right. The Redskins have been a dominating team since Synder took over. I mean just look at all of the division championships, playoff games, and Super Bowls they have won over the last 10 years! What was I thinking?

 

I'm sorry for dissing you DEAD, uh I mean, REDskins fans. Your team is by far the best in the NFL and their record over the past 10 years proves it.

 

Thanks for setting me straight!

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Dear SteveJohnson - if you have the guts, why don't you make a sig bet on the Redskins record this year. I bet Portis26 would take you up on it!

[Guest stevejohnson]

Dear SteveJohnson - if you have the guts, why don't you make a sig bet on the Redskins record this year. I bet Portis26 would take you up on it!

 

Over/under at 9 - I'll take the UNDER. Being that the Skins are such a dominating team, I win the push. Any takers?

[Apu Nahasapeemapetilon 0]

The Skins are not in cap hell, or they couldn't have signed all these guys. Nor will they be in cap hell. Most of the players they've signed won't get half of what their total contract value is listed at. Let's face it, journalists are pretty stupid when it comes to numbers. The only player they lost that they probably would have kept is Pierce last year. I think Lloyd is their #2 WR, Randel El is #3. But they probably got El more for special teams purposes and to keep teams from stacking the box against Portis, since LBs have to stay honest with the trick plays. Lloyd was the #1 in SF, and should be a nice complement to Moss and Cooley (who should have dropped down your fantasy draft a bunch due to these signings).

 

As for Brunell, he has one more average year in him...he's certainly no worse than guys like Bledsoe that are on teams that SI rates highly. He's probably a middle of the pack QB. I can certainly name more than 10 starters worse than him. If Campbell is the man to replace him long term, I've got no idea. Nobody has seen him play. Word is he's already better than Brunell, and is ready to go should Brunell get hurt. Who knows?

 

SI also rates Miami low...I think this is wrong too. Even getting a hurt CPep is better than starting Frerotte. They have a good number of picks, so they can fix their secondary within 2 years. CLE, NO and ATL also did some nice things.

 

I'd say MIN is the one that screwed up. Guaranteeing a whole contract is a great way to have a player get hurt, and count on your books for 7 years as your highest paid player. Yeah they got a great player, but the upside of that deal for MIN is minimal. Plus Chester Taylor is not an answer at RB. He's OK, but they've got like 4 RBs once again.

 

Over/under at 9 - I'll take the UNDER. Being that the Skins are such a dominating team, I win the push. Any takers?

 

 

I'll take that bet.

 

Your probably a whelcher though.

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Yeah, you guys are right. The Redskins have been a dominating team since Synder took over. I mean just look at all of the division championships, playoff games, and Super Bowls they have won over the last 10 years! What was I thinking?

 

I'm sorry for dissing you DEAD, uh I mean, REDskins fans. Your team is by far the best in the NFL and their record over the past 10 years proves it.

 

Thanks for setting me straight!

 

 

No one is saying the redskins are dominating or the best in the NFL.....

 

You make too many posts that make no sense and accuse people of saying something that they didnt....

 

Where do you get this all from.....1st im a "deadskin" fan and then people are saying the Redskins are great and the best in the NFL?....where do you get this stuff?

 

You are the most confusing and pointless poster I have ever seen.

[Guest stevejohnson]

No one is saying the redskins are dominating or the best in the NFL.....

 

You make too many posts that make no sense and accuse people of saying something that they didnt....

 

Where do you get this all from.....1st im a "deadskin" fan and then people are saying the Redskins are great and the best in the NFL?....where do you get this stuff?

 

You are the most confusing and pointless poster I have ever seen.

 

Thanks for the feedback. I'll take it under consideration!

[Savage Beast 1]

and the deadskin thing is getting old and annoying....come up with a better name than that...

 

I agree. Everybody knows they are the Washington Foreskins, the skin flute champions of the world.

[Guest stevejohnson]

The Skins are not in cap hell, or they couldn't have signed all these guys. Nor will they be in cap hell. Most of the players they've signed won't get half of what their total contract value is listed at. Let's face it, journalists are pretty stupid when it comes to numbers. The only player they lost that they probably would have kept is Pierce last year. I think Lloyd is their #2 WR, Randel El is #3. But they probably got El more for special teams purposes and to keep teams from stacking the box against Portis, since LBs have to stay honest with the trick plays. Lloyd was the #1 in SF, and should be a nice complement to Moss and Cooley (who should have dropped down your fantasy draft a bunch due to these signings).

 

As for Brunell, he has one more average year in him...he's certainly no worse than guys like Bledsoe that are on teams that SI rates highly. He's probably a middle of the pack QB. I can certainly name more than 10 starters worse than him. If Campbell is the man to replace him long term, I've got no idea. Nobody has seen him play. Word is he's already better than Brunell, and is ready to go should Brunell get hurt. Who knows?

 

SI also rates Miami low...I think this is wrong too. Even getting a hurt CPep is better than starting Frerotte. They have a good number of picks, so they can fix their secondary within 2 years. CLE, NO and ATL also did some nice things.

 

I'd say MIN is the one that screwed up. Guaranteeing a whole contract is a great way to have a player get hurt, and count on your books for 7 years as your highest paid player. Yeah they got a great player, but the upside of that deal for MIN is minimal. Plus Chester Taylor is not an answer at RB. He's OK, but they've got like 4 RBs once again.

I'll take that bet.

 

Your probably a whelcher though.

 

 

There is plenty of time to take bets. It's only March for crying out loud. How/why would I "whelch" though?

I usually bet money but being that this is a message board, I'll go with whatever.....

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Apu, I'm pretty sure that Minny's contract to Hutch isn't gauranteed.

[skins1967 0]

I would question why anyone would read and believe anything in Sports Illustrated !

[surferskin 31]

the basic premiss for the article is just garbage...clearly the redskins spend money on players that they think will help their team but why does the amount of money they spend have to always be the focus? the cap hell rhetoric is just getting so tiresome...call me when they have to start cutting droves of players and starting 20 rookies but until then, it's just useless to beat that drum EVERY year. how come these lazy columists never get held accountable when their cap hell predictions never come true? the article should have focused a little more on why these free agents won't help the skins...oh, that's right...it'd have been much harder to bash the skins if we were talk'n "X's" & "O's".

[Guest stevejohnson]

Yeah, SI really stinks. I mean it's not like they are the most widely read sports publication in the world or anything! Anyone who doesn't think that a domanating team like the Redskins hasn't done an excellent job this off season is a joke!

[Apu Nahasapeemapetilon 0]

Yeah, SI really stinks. I mean it's not like they are the most widely read sports publication in the world or anything! Anyone who doesn't think that a domanating team like the Redskins hasn't done an excellent job this off season is a joke!

 

A recent SI article claimed Philly is the worst team in the NFC East now. So at least they got one thing right.

[surferskin 31]

Yeah, SI really stinks. I mean it's not like they are the most widely read sports publication in the world or anything! Anyone who doesn't think that a domanating team like the Redskins hasn't done an excellent job this off season is a joke!

 

now why do their new free agents suck again? not because how much they get paid but why they won't help the redskins.

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Yeah, SI really stinks. I mean it's not like they are the most widely read sports publication in the world or anything! Anyone who doesn't think that a domanating team like the Redskins hasn't done an excellent job this off season is a joke!

 

SI writes feel good storys about people in sports - nothing more.

 

ANd PLEASE reference just one REDSKIN fan that says they are DOMINATE? You can't..because Skins fans don't say those types of things. All we have said is we have supported the moves made by management to better the team. People who mention over payments -- well, we just don't care bout HOW much anyone gets paid, BECAUSE WE DON"T SIGN THE CHECKS--- Why not talk about the Vikings OVERPAYING for a guard? or Seattle overpaying for Peterson? Over Falcons over paying for Abraham??

 

NO ONE CARES!!!! Expect the fans of teasm who sit on their arse and do nothing. Sure the Skins overpay for players - but they address their needs - thats all the fans care about.... U know why I knbow that ...becuase Fed Ex stadium is sold out every game... Synder just raised parking to almost $40 a pop -- and fans continue to go to the games, because we know he will put the $$$ back into the team.

 

Skins addressed their needs via free agency and the Skins are in better position then last year. END OF STORY - PLEASE PLEASE move on!!

[Guest stevejohnson]

A recent SI article claimed Philly is the worst team in the NFC East now. So at least they got one thing right.

 

I wish I could argue but their is still lots of time to improve. Pick up Moulds, have a good draft and we could be right back in the mix!

 

SI writes feel good storys about people in sports - nothing more.

 

ANd PLEASE reference just one REDSKIN fan that says they are DOMINATE? You can't..because Skins fans don't say those types of things. All we have said is we have supported the moves made by management to better the team. People who mention over payments -- well, we just don't care bout HOW much anyone gets paid, BECAUSE WE DON"T SIGN THE CHECKS--- Why not talk about the Vikings OVERPAYING for a guard? or Seattle overpaying for Peterson? Over Falcons over paying for Abraham??

 

NO ONE CARES!!!! Expect the fans of teasm who sit on their arse and do nothing. Sure the Skins overpay for players - but they address their needs - thats all the fans care about.... U know why I knbow that ...becuase Fed Ex stadium is sold out every game... Synder just raised parking to almost $40 a pop -- and fans continue to go to the games, because we know he will put the $$$ back into the team.

 

Skins addressed their needs via free agency and the Skins are in better position then last year. END OF STORY - PLEASE PLEASE move on!!

 

So you are willing to bet they win 10 games next year?

[Portis26 0]

I wish I could argue but their is still lots of time to improve. Pick up Moulds, have a good draft and we could be right back in the mix!

So you are willing to bet they win 10 games next year?

 

and of course if the Skins picked up Moulds there would be loads of social security jokes being mentioned with Brunell. -

 

Lets say they split with the Boys and Giants and beat Iggles twice

They SHOULD WIN against

Atlanta,

Tennessee,

Minnesota

New Orleans,

Houston,

St. Louis

 

and these are the tough games

- so if they go 2-2 or 1-3 Skins will STILL be over 10 wins.

 

Carolina,

Jacksonville,

Tampa Bay,

Indianapolis,

[Portis26 0]

2) You claim to be in Philly so name a time and place to say this stuff to my face. Other wise you are just another racist COWARD!

 

 

ooh, ooh... can I watch!!!

Please post the time and day, for our viewing pleasures!!

 

The winner will recieve --------->

[football_scooter 0]

I wish I could argue but their is still lots of time to improve.

 

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[SUXBNME 1,636]

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in this case, they're. it's a tip.

 

 

Actually it's "there"

 

[mozzy84 0]

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[Arsenal 3]

I would question why anyone would read and believe anything in Sports Illustrated !

 

 

Dude, you clearly have never picked up the swimsuit edition

[football_scooter 0]

Actually it's "there"

 

 

Give that man a ci-gar.

 

I was a little rushed. It was driving me nuts though - look through his posts and they're (they are) rife with poor grammar. Makes it hard to assign any credibility to his points, even before realizing that they have none.

[Jeff Garcia 8]

stevejohnson=gs14

gs14=stevejohnson

[SUXBNME 1,636]

Give that man a ci-gar.

 

I was a little rushed. It was driving me nuts though - look through his posts and they're (they are) rife with poor grammar. Makes it hard to assign any credibility to his points, even before realizing that they have none.

 

 

Even though we all misspell at times, I agree with you 100%. Just realize that you will now be called a "racist" for your correction of his language..

My mom was an english teacher at Cal Berkley, so I grew up being constantly being corrected.

Now I try and correct all the asshats at my work, and in the process have became the biggest asshat of them all..

 

[football_scooter 0]

Even though we all misspell at times, I agree with you 100%. Just realize that you will now be called a "racist" for your correction of his language..

My mom was an english teacher at Cal Berkley, so I grew up being constantly being corrected.

Now I try and correct all the asshats at my work, and in the process have became the biggest asshat of them all..

 

 

 

Spelling I can handle. Misuse of their, there & they're is borderline illiterate. If I ever perpetrate such an offense against the English language, I encourage all of you to call me out similarly.

[Bandits47 0]

You are the most confusing and pointless poster I have ever seen.

 

I beg to differ....."Got Moneyball"????????