Death

[ArnieBragg 2]

Bunch of morons, honestly.

 

Heaven? Angels? Aliens? Ghosts? Ghouls? Zombies?

 

More like worm food.

[phillybear 366]

It really surprises me how many people believe that when we die, we just die and that's it.

 

I believe in the afterlife. After observing all that I have in life so far, I simply can't fathom not believing it. Logic simply prevents me from doubting.

[GobbleDog 1,014]

It really surprises me how many people believe that when we die, we just die and that's it.

 

It ain't so bad. We turn back into the basic molecules which make the Universe and all life within it.

 

If it helps, you can know that there will be an infinite number of new organsims and conciousnesses created over the life of this universe, with those molecules. Who's to say one of those infinate number of conscious organisms isn't you, after cmh6476 no longer exists? It also seems likely to me that Big Bang type universe creations are not unique to only this universe.

[shovelheadt 72]

I believe in the afterlife. After observing all that I have in life so far, I simply can't fathom not believing it. Logic simply prevents me from doubting.

 

And this is the exact reason I don't believe in it. Too many uspeakable acts happen daily in this world for me to believe there's some devine power watching over us.

[GobbleDog 1,014]

I believe in the afterlife. After observing all that I have in life so far, I simply can't fathom not believing it. Logic simply prevents me from doubting.

 

I agree that it all seems to works too well given the indifference of nature and space. I'm talking all the way down to how subatomic particles, cells, and life works and the way our solar system, galaxy and entire universe works.

 

I think that idea is generally called intelligent design - it's all too complex to have happend by chance. The counter to is this idea is that an infinite number of universes could create anything.

[cmh6476 1,154]

So what are all you peaople who don't believe in an afterlife actually living for? What keeps you from robbing, raping, stealing, and other selfish acts if you believe there is no fear of retribution in the afterlife?

[buffalobillsffl2003 0]

So what are all you peaople who don't believe in an afterlife actually living for? What keeps you from robbing, raping, stealing, and other selfish acts if you believe there is no fear of retribution in the afterlife?

 

 

 

You must of been lying in front of the TV. That scene is from Gladiator.

 

 

This was in 1989, and they stole my idea.

 

 

[brinett9 0]

So what are all you peaople who don't believe in an afterlife actually living for?

 

What keeps you from robbing, raping, stealing, and other selfish acts if you believe there is no fear of retribution in the afterlife?

 

1. There's nothing better to do.

 

2. A sense of right and wrong. Are you saying that if there were no possibility of afterlife retribution you'd be doing a lot of "robbing, raping, stealing, and other selfish acts"?

[parrot 790]

2. A sense of right and wrong. Are you saying that if there were no possibility of afterlife retribution you'd be doing a lot of "robbing, raping, stealing, and other selfish acts"?

 

Personally, it's never occurred to me to rape someone, so I never had to get to that point of "Jeez, God might get mad at me..."

 

Religion was invented for people just like cmh.

[cmh6476 1,154]

 

Personally, it's never occurred to me to rape someone, so I never had to get to that point of "Jeez, God might get mad at me..."

 

Religion was invented for people just like cmh.

 

 

Why are you pinning this on me? There is something that keeps us all at peace as a society. If that "something" wasnt there, we'd be living in a world of rape, robbery, murder, and other heinous crimes. Does a fear of police presence really keep droves of people from ravaging your hometown? Or is it a sense that there is an ultimate presence that we must answer to in the end that makes us all act on our morals?

[brinett9 0]

Why are you pinning this on me? There is something that keeps us all at peace as a society. If that "something" wasnt there, we'd be living in a world of rape, robbery, murder, and other heinous crimes. Does a fear of police presence really keep droves of people from ravaging your hometown? Or is it a sense that there is an ultimate presence that we must answer to in the end that makes us all act on our morals?

I don't need to be threatened in order to act ethically.

 

Perhaps some people do, but I think most don't.

[cmh6476 1,154]

I don't believe in the supernatural either. But you shouldn't disrespect other people's beliefs when it comes to something as personal as religion.

 

 

I'm a criminal justice major, and always look at it from a sociological perspective. Even with guns and mace and pepper gas and stuff, the masses still outnumber and could take out the po-po if they wanted to. Now the po-po might call in the Guard for reinforcement, but you catch my drift. People can slam the bible and religion all they want. I think the Bible and religous principles are at leats part of the reason we are able to maintain a peaceful society for as long as we have.

[GobbleDog 1,014]

Human behavior has too many variables to pin it on one thing like religion. It's DNA, culture, upbringing, religion, ect.... taking away one aspect doesn't doesn't change behavior to the point that yall are suggesting (ie: rape, murder, etc...).

[cmh6476 1,154]

I don't need to be threatened in order to act ethically.

 

Perhaps some people do, but I think most don't.

 

 

In Mexico they do. Messicans are shocked when they come here and see that no,one has gated fences surrounding their houses. Every house you go to down there has either barb-wire or busted glass on top of walls surrounding where they live to deter thieves. Hell, a lot of people never even lock their houses up. A part of that has to be attributed to faith.

[brinett9 0]

This is where a conscience comes in.

 

A conscience is not a fear of reprisals.

[cmh6476 1,154]

Human behavior has too many variables to pin it on one thing like religion. It's DNA, culture, upbringing, religion, ect.... taking away one aspect doesn't doesn't change behavior to the point that yall are suggesting (ie: rape, murder, etc...).

 

 

You're telling me if the human race learned for a fact that once they died existence as they knew it just ended and there was nothing to look forward to after that, people wouldn't start changing the way they live their lives?

[brinett9 0]

In Mexico they do. Messicans are shocked when they come here and see that no,one has gated fences surrounding their houses. Every house you go to down there has either barb-wire or busted glass to deter thieves. Hell, a lot of people never even lock their houses up. A part of that has to be attributed to faith.

So the whole 'god will get you' thing isn't working very well there either?

[GobbleDog 1,014]

People can slam the bible and religion all they want.

I think it's unthoughtful. And I'm not even religious.

[parrot 790]

I'm a criminal justice major, and always look at it from a sociological perspective. Even with guns and mace and pepper gas and stuff, the masses still outnumber and could take out the po-po if they wanted to. Now the po-po might call in the Guard for reinforcement, but you catch my drift. People can slam the bible and religion all they want. I think the Bible and religous principles are at leats part of the reason we are able to maintain a peaceful society for as long as we have.

Of course it is. That's why I said it was invented for just that purpose, to help control those without an operating internal moral compass. And going off your previous statements, I take you to be one of those.

[cmh6476 1,154]

Of course it is. That's why I said it was invented for just that purpose, to help control those without an operating internal moral compass. And going off your previous statements, I take you to be one of those.

 

 

You've got me judged wrong. I'd be the one at home with the shotgun protecting my own property from the thieves and looters.

[brinett9 0]

Organized religions typically work to specify and encourage principles of ethics. This is a good thing and a positive force in societies.

 

That doesn't mean that ethics wouldn't exist without religion.

[parrot 790]

You're telling me if the human race learned for a fact that once they died existence as they knew it just ended and there was nothing to look forward to after that, people wouldn't start changing the way they live their lives?

Would you change the way you live your life?

[GobbleDog 1,014]

Napoleon Bonaparte - "Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."

 

I disagree, but it's still a good quote.

[cmh6476 1,154]

Would you change the way you live your life?

 

 

Probably. I wouldn't ever feel bad again for missing church on Sunday.

 

 

And I'd miss celebrating Christmas.

 

 

and maybe something or two more...

[parrot 790]

Probably. I wouldn't ever feel bad again for missing church on Sunday.

And I'd miss celebrating Christmas.

and maybe something or two more...

Would you rape, murder, and rob, not necessarily in that order?

[cmh6476 1,154]

Would you rape, murder, and rob, not necessarily in that order?

 

 

no, no, and no.

[parrot 790]

no, no, and no.

Why not? To borrow a phrase;

 

What keeps you from robbing, raping, stealing, and other selfish acts if you believe there is no fear of retribution in the afterlife?

 

[cmh6476 1,154]

Why not? To borrow a phrase;

 

 

Cause you still have to look out for the po-pos

[Dagger 0]

Cause you still have to look out for the po-pos

 

So you are saying that if not for the police you would do those things?