When Is The Sopranos Going To Get Better ?

[TIKI-BARBERS-BARBER 0]

Another let down. The Vito thing was funny and no way Tony beats the Muscle guy in real life. Still a let down.

[redtodd 7]

Yeah, it has been a bit slow. The Allegra comments from Christopher were pretty funny though.

 

Phil is starting to make his movements to be boss.

[kutulu 1,722]

[EndGame 1]

Even a slow episode is better than 99% of the other crap on TV these days.

[kutulu 1,722]

Even a slow episode is better than 99% of the other crap on TV these days.

 

Yeah, I was gonna put up a poll on Monday....Sopranos vs. Lost.

[EndGame 1]

Yeah, I was gonna put up a poll on Monday....Sopranos vs. Lost.

I'm a big fan of LOST, but I'd probably still watch Sopranos. Fortunately, decisions like this aren't necessary when you have a DVR

[kutulu 1,722]

I'm a big fan of LOST, but I'd probably still watch Sopranos. Fortunately, decisions like this aren't necessary when you have a DVR

 

and the fact that they are on completely different nights.

[BMoney 0]

AWWWWWW, poor you!

[Mile High Drunk 13]

atleast no dream scenes tonight.... but still

[congressmanreality 1]

I thought it was a great episode, the Fall of Johnny Sack, the rise of whats his name....First Tony tells "whats his name", NO, he wont do the favor for Johnny...then he sees Johnny Cry....obviously he's lost all power in the NY family....then Tony Orchestrates that azz kicking of the big italian dude...yea thats right, the kid was in on it...great episode....just great...

[swirvenirvin 25]

I thought this was a damn good episode..

 

Vito pretty much offing himself for being a h0m0

 

Johnny Sac getting embarrassed and crying while being taken away from jail

 

Bobby dunking

 

Tony getting all pissed off cause he is fat, and everyone else is strong then beating his driver

 

Naked chicks and boobies

 

There is something up with those arabs who want an automatic

 

Then Tony and Chris trying to figure out what is going to go down with them killing the guy Johnny Sac wants dead.

 

This was one of the better episodes I can remeber.

 

There has never been action all 50 minutes I'm not really sure what you are looking for more than that

[buffalobillsffl2003 0]

Didn't Chris and Tony say they wanted to bring a guy over from Naples to kill that mayor?

 

[cgod 0]

I thought this was a damn good episode..

 

There is something up with those arabs who want an automatic

 

Then Tony and Chris trying to figure out what is going to go down with them killing the guy Johnny Sac wants dead.

 

This was one of the better episodes I can remeber.

 

There has never been action all 50 minutes I'm not really sure what you are looking for more than that

 

I agree that it was a pretty good episode.

 

Curious if the Arab connection is what will bring the family down or a story arc involving Christopher (remember his conversation with the agent in Satriale's) or maybe a little of both. Also, if it's not the Arab connection then the hit that Johnny Sac asked T to do will probably come around and blow up causing a NY/NJ war.

 

Regardless I am still kept wanting more and anxious to see how things play out.

[bammbamm 0]

best quote of the night 'How 'bout a mercy fock?'

[kutulu 1,722]

The first 35 minutes or so was slow....it was still good, but def. not action packed. Thought it was funny how Johnny Sac called the marshalls "heartless bastards" while he was planning a hit at his daughter's wedding.

[George Carlin 1]

The first 35 minutes or so was slow....it was still good, but def. not action packed. Thought it was funny how Johnny Sac called the marshalls "heartless bastards" while he was planning a hit at his daughter's wedding.

 

It's a riot how "the mafia" can do anything they want, yet expect everyone else to live by different standards. Just like the current president and his administration.

[EMoney 0]

Another let down. Still a let down.

 

You say the same crap every week. The show would be one killing after another and you'd still whine. Stop posting about it if you hate the show so much. Your the dumbass that pays for HBO and can't even enjoy a show.

[fricker66 93]

I also enjoyed this episode. The focus on the Sacrimoni family entertained me -- I laughed out loud when Johnny Sac's skinny daughter said "All this family thinks about is food." Great casting throwing in an anorexic chick to play the youngest daughter.

[brinett9 0]

A good build-up episode.

 

I wanna see Phil Leotardo get whacked.

[TD Ryan2 316]

good episode.

 

- the look on Tony's face after he beat up the muscle-head driver was excellent... in a Jack/Shining, "Hi honey! I'm Hooooome!" sorta' way.

 

- The theme of identity is huge in this season. Seemingly every major character is struggling with some sort of "Who Am I":

Paully with his mother/aunt

Vito with the gay secret life

Tony with the Kevin Finnerty, religion, quest for self-identity

Silvio with the boss vs. second-in-command

Carmella with the money/mob/rich lifestyle

 

the subtelty of the show is what makes it so good.

The idea that EVERYONE from a mobster to the rich-kid Barone to the building inspector that plays the horses (Vito mentioned him last night) may have problems that nobody will ever know about... or that they HOPE nobody ever knows about.

 

- Any chance Johnny Sack turns on Tony if/when Tony wacks Rusty? John's obviously not handling his incarceration well... maybe he cuts a deal with the Feds and gives up Tony for some leniency?

 

- how quickly Christopher has gotten past Aid's murder. The scene with Chrissy and the strippers was pretty telling.

 

- I've got to believe they're setting up some big confrontation with the Arab guys. In doing so, they allow some sort of all out war without destroying the relationships/heirarchy of NY&NJ.

[Saturday Night Beaver 2]

good episode.

 

- the look on Tony's face after he beat up the muscle-head driver was excellent... in a Jack/Shining, "Hi honey! I'm Hooooome!" sorta' way.

 

- The theme of identity is huge in this season. Seemingly every major character is struggling with some sort of "Who Am I":

Paully with his mother/aunt

Vito with the gay secret life

Tony with the Kevin Finnerty, religion, quest for self-identity

Silvio with the boss vs. second-in-command

Carmella with the money/mob/rich lifestyle

 

the subtelty of the show is what makes it so good.

The idea that EVERYONE from a mobster to the rich-kid Barone to the building inspector that plays the horses (Vito mentioned him last night) may have problems that nobody will ever know about... or that they HOPE nobody ever knows about.

 

- Any chance Johnny Sack turns on Tony if/when Tony wacks Rusty? John's obviously not handling his incarceration well... maybe he cuts a deal with the Feds and gives up Tony for some leniency?

 

- how quickly Christopher has gotten past Aid's murder. The scene with Chrissy and the strippers was pretty telling.

 

- I've got to believe they're setting up some big confrontation with the Arab guys. In doing so, they allow some sort of all out war without destroying the relationships/heirarchy of NY&NJ.

 

 

I liked the episode as well. Good analysis of the show TD.

[brinett9 0]

- Any chance Johnny Sack turns on Tony if/when Tony wacks Rusty? John's obviously not handling his incarceration well... maybe he cuts a deal with the Feds and gives up Tony for some leniency?

That works.

 

1. Tony has Rusty whacked.

2. The NY organization finds out T is behind it.

3. Johnny Sac pretends he didn't ask for it because his leverage is failing bad enough as it is.

4. NY/NJ war!

 

[George Carlin 1]

it sucks knowing this is the final season.. we're all just waiting for something bad to happen to Tony.

 

Christopher is going to get killed very soon.

[brinett9 0]

Christopher is going to get killed very soon.

Leotardo gets whacked first.

 

I'll bet you a Fenway Frank on it.

[kutulu 1,722]

Christopher is going to get killed very soon.

 

Link?

[fricker66 93]

a Fenway Frank

 

Is this a Vito bet?

[brinett9 0]

Is this a Vito bet?

This is a Fenway Frank we're talking about here.

 

Even edjr wouldn't...err.......never mind.

[George Carlin 1]

Leotardo gets whacked first.

 

I'll bet you a Fenway Frank on it.

 

Chris is going to kill Phil or vice versa

[brinett9 0]

Chris is going to kill Phil or vice versa

So is "It On"?

[SigEp316 0]

good episode....TD gives the best analysis every week. The kid was in on Tony whipping his ass, the Arab thing is going to be bad....some terrorist act is gonna go down and it's gonna come back to Christopher and Tony is going to go ballistic. I'm glad Vito is going to off himself, even though I had hoped he would get whacked...(I laughed out loud when I saw him in that leather outfit and hat).

 

Johnny Sac is done in power....Rusty gets wacked and Phil moves up the food chain. Phil has always been sneaky and I don't think any of the NJ family trusts him or respects him. I think this is the ultimate breakdown between the families, not necessarily the hit on Rusty, but when Phil rises to power.

[brinett9 0]

The kid was in on Tony whipping his ass...

That's what I was thinking. The fight was staged. I'm not sure.

 

I was half expecting the arabs to open fire at the wedding. In a perfect world...

[George Carlin 1]

So is "It On"?

 

 

it's ON

[fricker66 93]

I was half expecting the arabs to open fire at the wedding. In a perfect world...

 

I expected an Arab hit at the wedding, especially after they commented that it was "a family matter."

[TD Ryan2 316]

it sucks knowing this is the final season.. we're all just waiting for something bad to happen to Tony.

 

Christopher is going to get killed very soon.

 

 

what makes you think that something earth-shattering has to happen to Tony?

"closure" isn't the strength of the Sopranos; in fact, it's what some people hate so much about it. Chase doesn't spoon-feed you all the answers and one could argue that his method is more realistic and believable. Life doesn't wrap itself up into neatly packaged one hour stories.

 

IMO, the writers will be a lot more subtle with the ending. They are already establishing the cyclical and inescapable nature of the life that Tony leads. What will happen to Tony isn't really a mystery: jail, killed, or an old age/uncle junior type seem to be the only reasonable outcomes. And either way, Tony will NEVER have any sort of peace in his life; no matter how big of a mob-boss he becomes, there is no peace & tranquility for him aside from a few moments he steals in a lawn chair by his pool.

 

And perhaps the 2-Tony's theme will become even more evident: Bad-Ass-Tony is back (and we saw it on his face in that mirror right before he puked blood) but after his near-death experience, he know he doesn't have a choice to become a "born again" or rejuvinated man: cyclical and inescapable is the life he leads. But the same may not be said for his kids. Perhaps Tony becomes an even more violent criminal all the while telling his kids "don't do what I've done". He becomes a monster so that his children can one day have peace: marrying off Meadow to an upstanding dentist and who-knows-what for AJ.

[Mark Buffington 3]

I don't think the fight was staged at all? Why do you guys think that?

 

Tony looked around the room and felt a disconnect with his "family". He needed to remind everyone who was boss and that the hospital stay did not weaken him.

 

Also, I thought it was another grat episode. They did a good job portraying him going "back to work".

[fricker66 93]

what makes you think that something earth-shattering has to happen to Tony?

"closure" isn't the strength of the Sopranos; in fact, it's what some people hate so much about it. Chase doesn't spoon-feed you all the answers and one could argue that his method is more realistic and believable. Life doesn't wrap itself up into neatly packaged one hour stories.

 

IMO, the writers will be a lot more subtle with the ending. They are already establishing the cyclical and inescapable nature of the life that Tony leads. What will happen to Tony isn't really a mystery: jail, killed, or an old age/uncle junior type seem to be the only reasonable outcomes. And either way, Tony will NEVER have any sort of peace in his life; no matter how big of a mob-boss he becomes, there is no peace & tranquility for him aside from a few moments he steals in a lawn chair by his pool.

 

And perhaps the 2-Tony's theme will become even more evident: Bad-Ass-Tony is back (and we saw it on his face in that mirror right before he puked blood) but after his near-death experience, he know he doesn't have a choice to become a "born again" or rejuvinated man: cyclical and inescapable is the life he leads. But the same may not be said for his kids. Perhaps Tony becomes an even more violent criminal all the while telling his kids "don't do what I've done". He becomes a monster so that his children can one day have peace: marrying off Meadow to an upstanding dentist and who-knows-what for AJ.

 

I worry that Chase will focus on Carmella at the end rather than Tony...

[brinett9 0]

it's ON

Take note, Geeks. Gedjrge Carlin and I have a bet.

 

The stakes: One Fenway Frank.

 

The contingency: Chris gets whacked before Phil, edjr wins.

Phil gets whacked before Chris, I win.

 

Neither gets whacked or simul-whack, it's a draw.

[SigEp316 0]

Also, I thought it was another grat episode.

 

[fricker66 93]

My boss, who looks a bit like Tony Soprano, came into the office today wearing a "Barrone Sanitation" hat.

[brinett9 0]

I don't think the fight was staged at all? Why do you guys think that?

I thought it might be staged because Tony didn't get his convalescent ass handed to him.