Mephisto 15 Posted April 18, 2006 Reading comprehension: CATCH IT! It's not a "joke" that the Redskins blow. Maybe that's why you didn't laugh. I know I'm not laughing. They suck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surferskin 30 Posted April 18, 2006 Reading comprehension: CATCH IT! It's not a "joke" that the Redskins blow. Maybe that's why you didn't laugh. I know I'm not laughing. They suck. this coming from the tool that missed the entire point of the thread...i should retitle it "Mephisto FINALLY gets it..." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OB1 33 Posted April 18, 2006 is that supposed to prove your point? anyone can name that many guys drafted on any team. It's obvious you are incapable of actually making valid points so I guess i'm wasting my breath. My point is those guys were starters for the Pats at one point or another diring their SB run, and a few of them WERE critical to their success. I'm a Jet fan, so I know poor drafting. The Pats have built their team through various methods, and IMO the least of which is signing big name, big $$ FAs like the skins do. HTH! Good call on Mat Light, I forgot how critical he was to the Pats SB wins. Sarcasm? The guy started on their o-line for all 3 Superbowl wins. If protecting the player that most people credit for their success isn't contributing then I don't know what is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surferskin 30 Posted April 18, 2006 It's obvious you are incapable of actually making valid points so I guess i'm wasting my breath. My point is those guys were starters for the Pats at one point or another diring their SB run, and a few of them WERE critical to their success. I'm a Jet fan, so I know poor drafting. The Pats have built their team through various methods, and IMO the least of which is signing big name big $$ FAs. HTH! c'mon man, don't be so sensitive...you made weak case stating the pats built their team through the draft and i called you on it. no need to . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mephisto 15 Posted April 18, 2006 this coming from the tool that missed the entire point of the thread...i should retitle it "Mephisto FINALLY gets it..." I didn't miss that the entire point of the thread is... that no matter what the Skins do, they suck. Perhaps you should retitle the thread "Surferskin still doesn't get it" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OB1 33 Posted April 18, 2006 c'mon man, don't be so sensitive...you made weak case stating the pats built their team through the draft and i called you on it. no need to . Please, you still haven't made a single point. The Pats did build from the draft and moderate FAs. If you are going to dispute it state some facts or shut up. TIA!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surferskin 30 Posted April 18, 2006 I didn't miss that the entire point of the thread is... that no matter what the Skins do, they suck. Perhaps you should retitle the thread "Surferskin still doesn't get it" you don't get it no YOU don't get it gosh you're a phag and *insert your team here* sucks too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mephisto 15 Posted April 18, 2006 you don't get it no YOU don't get itgosh you're a phag and *REDSKINS* sucks too. I think you're getting it now! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Buffington 3 Posted April 18, 2006 When did Snyder buy the team? I guessed 1998. Here are all of the Skins picks in rounds 3-7. the only contributor I see is Cooley. I don't think you can include Barber because they let him go and signed Armstead. How'd that work out? 3rd round picks 2004 18 81 Chris Cooley TE Utah State 2003 17 81 Derrick Dockery G Texas 2002 14 79 Rashad Bauman DB Oregon 2002 22 87 Cliff Russell WR Utah 2000 2 64 Lloyd Harrison DB North Carolina State 1998 8 69 Skip Hicks RB UCLA 4th round 2005 19 120 Manuel White RB UCLA 2001 14 109 Sage Rosenfels QB Iowa State 2000 35 129 Michael Moore G Troy State 1999 12 107 Nate Stimson LB Georgia Tech 1998 21 113 Shawn Barber LB Richmond 5th round 2005 18 154 Robert McCune LB Louisville 2004 19 151 Mark Wilson T California 2002 24 159 Andre Lott DB Tennessee 2002 25 160 Robert Royal TE Louisiana State 2001 23 154 Darnerian McCants WR Delaware State 2000 26 155 Quincy Sanders DB UNLV 1999 32 165 Derek Smith T Virginia Tech 1998 17 140 Mark Fischer G Purdue 6th round 2005 9 183 Jared Newberry LB Stanford 2004 15 180 Jim Molinaro T Notre Dame 2002 20 192 Reggie Coleman T Tennessee 2001 23 186 Mario Monds DT Cincinnati 2000 36 202 Todd Husak QB Stanford 1999 12 181 Jeff Hall K Tennessee 1998 17 170 Patrick Palmer WR Northwest Louisiana 7th round 2005 8 222 Nehemiah Broughton RB Citadel 2003 18 232 Gibran Hamdan QB Indiana 2002 19 230 Jeff Grau TE UCLA 2002 23 234 Gregory Scott DE Hampton 2002 46 257 Rock Cartwright RB Kansas State 2000 10 216 Delbert Cowsette DT Maryland 2000 44 250 Ethan Howell WR Oklahoma State 1999 11 217 Tim Alexander WR Oregon State 1998 2 191 David Terrell DB Texas-El Paso This thread can be locked now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surferskin 30 Posted April 18, 2006 I think you're winning now! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mephisto 15 Posted April 18, 2006 When did Snyder buy the team? I guessed 1998. Here are all of the Skins picks in rounds 3-7. the only contributor I see is Cooley. I don't think you can include Barber because they let him go and signed Armstead. How'd that work out? 3rd round picks 2004 18 81 Chris Cooley TE Utah State 2003 17 81 Derrick Dockery G Texas 2002 14 79 Rashad Bauman DB Oregon 2002 22 87 Cliff Russell WR Utah 2000 2 64 Lloyd Harrison DB North Carolina State 1998 8 69 Skip Hicks RB UCLA 4th round 2005 19 120 Manuel White RB UCLA 2001 14 109 Sage Rosenfels QB Iowa State 2000 35 129 Michael Moore G Troy State 1999 12 107 Nate Stimson LB Georgia Tech 1998 21 113 Shawn Barber LB Richmond 5th round 2005 18 154 Robert McCune LB Louisville 2004 19 151 Mark Wilson T California 2002 24 159 Andre Lott DB Tennessee 2002 25 160 Robert Royal TE Louisiana State 2001 23 154 Darnerian McCants WR Delaware State 2000 26 155 Quincy Sanders DB UNLV 1999 32 165 Derek Smith T Virginia Tech 1998 17 140 Mark Fischer G Purdue 6th round 2005 9 183 Jared Newberry LB Stanford 2004 15 180 Jim Molinaro T Notre Dame 2002 20 192 Reggie Coleman T Tennessee 2001 23 186 Mario Monds DT Cincinnati 2000 36 202 Todd Husak QB Stanford 1999 12 181 Jeff Hall K Tennessee 1998 17 170 Patrick Palmer WR Northwest Louisiana 7th round 2005 8 222 Nehemiah Broughton RB Citadel 2003 18 232 Gibran Hamdan QB Indiana 2002 19 230 Jeff Grau TE UCLA 2002 23 234 Gregory Scott DE Hampton 2002 46 257 Rock Cartwright RB Kansas State 2000 10 216 Delbert Cowsette DT Maryland 2000 44 250 Ethan Howell WR Oklahoma State 1999 11 217 Tim Alexander WR Oregon State 1998 2 191 David Terrell DB Texas-El Paso This thread can be locked now. Cliff's Notes Version: The Redskins suck. Thanks for playing! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Steak 0 Posted April 18, 2006 When did Snyder buy the team? I guessed 1998. Here are all of the Skins picks in rounds 3-7. the only contributor I see is Cooley. I don't think you can include Barber because they let him go and signed Armstead. How'd that work out? 3rd round picks 2004 18 81 Chris Cooley TE Utah State 2003 17 81 Derrick Dockery G Texas 2002 14 79 Rashad Bauman DB Oregon 2002 22 87 Cliff Russell WR Utah 2000 2 64 Lloyd Harrison DB North Carolina State 1998 8 69 Skip Hicks RB UCLA 4th round 2005 19 120 Manuel White RB UCLA 2001 14 109 Sage Rosenfels QB Iowa State 2000 35 129 Michael Moore G Troy State 1999 12 107 Nate Stimson LB Georgia Tech 1998 21 113 Shawn Barber LB Richmond 5th round 2005 18 154 Robert McCune LB Louisville 2004 19 151 Mark Wilson T California 2002 24 159 Andre Lott DB Tennessee 2002 25 160 Robert Royal TE Louisiana State 2001 23 154 Darnerian McCants WR Delaware State 2000 26 155 Quincy Sanders DB UNLV 1999 32 165 Derek Smith T Virginia Tech 1998 17 140 Mark Fischer G Purdue 6th round 2005 9 183 Jared Newberry LB Stanford 2004 15 180 Jim Molinaro T Notre Dame 2002 20 192 Reggie Coleman T Tennessee 2001 23 186 Mario Monds DT Cincinnati 2000 36 202 Todd Husak QB Stanford 1999 12 181 Jeff Hall K Tennessee 1998 17 170 Patrick Palmer WR Northwest Louisiana 7th round 2005 8 222 Nehemiah Broughton RB Citadel 2003 18 232 Gibran Hamdan QB Indiana 2002 19 230 Jeff Grau TE UCLA 2002 23 234 Gregory Scott DE Hampton 2002 46 257 Rock Cartwright RB Kansas State 2000 10 216 Delbert Cowsette DT Maryland 2000 44 250 Ethan Howell WR Oklahoma State 1999 11 217 Tim Alexander WR Oregon State 1998 2 191 David Terrell DB Texas-El Paso This thread can be locked now. Who is making the point that the Redskins have drafted their way to success? you and mephisto are really dumb, aren't you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joe Carcuss 0 Posted April 18, 2006 I'm not a Redskins fan or hater but despite spending a lot of money, I don't see how the Redskins are going to be any better this season. They overpaid for two decent WRs when they still don't have a QB. Brunell turned in a gutty effort last season but seemed to wear down/be exposed as the season went on. I highly doubt he even makes it through half of next season. Campbell is a complete unknown. If the scouts guessed wrong on him, the whole season could go down the drain because all of those WRs can't thrown the ball to themselves. If I had to guess, I see the Redskins around 8-8 next season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mephisto 15 Posted April 18, 2006 Who is making the point that the Redskins have drafted their way to success? you and mephisto are really dumb, aren't you? When the Redskins don't suck and I say that they do, then you can call me dumb. In the meantime, I'm about the only one looking like a complete genius in this thread. The Redskins suck, they have for some time, and they will continue to suck for some time. Not dumb, just the facts. It's dumb not to acknowledge that reality. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Timinator 0 Posted April 18, 2006 Draft matters more than people realize. According to a Mpls radio report, the teams starting the most drafted players in the past two years are the Steelers, Patriots, Bears and Jets. So, yes, the Patriots were built through the draft and it does work. Washington is having the same problem that the Vikes have--MN only starts seven drafted players which was perceived as a problem. The smartest thing the Redskins did was to pay big money to coaches rather than the likes of TO. That they changed their MO seems to prove that even they didn't think things were/are working. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Steak 0 Posted April 18, 2006 When the Redskins don't suck and I say that they do, then you can call me dumb. In the meantime, I'm about the only one looking like a complete genius in this thread. The Redskins suck, they have for some time, and they will continue to suck for some time. Not dumb, just the facts. It's dumb not to acknowledge that reality. They made the playoffs last year and won a road game. Please list your teams that don't suck.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mephisto 15 Posted April 18, 2006 They made the playoffs last year and won a road game. Please list your teams that don't suck.... Sucky teams make the playoffs sometimes. The list of teams that don't suck include: 1 - Every team not nicknamed "The Redskins." 2 - See #1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surferskin 30 Posted April 18, 2006 Sucky teams make the playoffs sometimes. The list of teams that don't suck include: 1 - Every team not nicknamed "The Redskins." 2 - See #1 he's on a roll. go mephisto go! this is message board gold here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Steak 0 Posted April 18, 2006 he's on a roll. go mephisto go! this is message board gold here. I haven't heard genius like this since 4th grade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Force of Two 0 Posted April 18, 2006 SurferSkin = Redskin Steve Johnson....When you dont agree with his worship of anything Redskin related he berates you and calls you name....like SJ you should just ignore him and he will either go away or get himself thrown away. I still think that the Skins are about an 8-8/9-7 team again this year because Brunnell wont be able to get the job done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surferskin 30 Posted April 18, 2006 SurferSkin = Redskin Steve Johnson....When you dont agree with his worship of anything Redskin related he berates you and calls you name....like SJ you should just ignore him and he will either go away or get himself thrown away. I still think that the Skins are about an 8-8/9-7 team again this year because Brunnell wont be able to get the job done. now that's low. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Force of Two 0 Posted April 18, 2006 now that's low. Ok im sorry that was below the belt....Steve Johnson was a singular breed of jerk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mephisto 15 Posted April 18, 2006 ...aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand the Redskins still suck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surferskin 30 Posted April 18, 2006 Ok im sorry that was below the belt....Steve Johnson was a singular breed of jerk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Portis26 0 Posted April 18, 2006 The Skins have SUCK'd for a while now -- ever since Jack Kent Cooke died.... only until 2 years ago have they gotten back on track... 8 million different coaches BAD BAD FA pick ups Letting Stephen Davis walk a COMPLETE nightmare for a once very proud franchise. Snyder has brought in football people to do things, and now is putting his money into his assitants coaches with Saunders, and Williams ---- and results are finally being noticed and more results are soon to come. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,230 Posted April 18, 2006 Redskins blow like surferskins’ mom. I can’t believe all of the wasted posts in this thread regarding the focking REDSKINS. They suck! Who cares what Peter Queen or surferskins has to say about this? It’s the focking SKINS! They blow and so does this thread. Much to my most sincere dismay, I will have to acree with the Meph on this one... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulinstl 296 Posted April 18, 2006 Somebody stop the presses. An NFL team has figured out that back loading long term contracts and giving less guaranteed money is a way to work the salary cap? WHOA NELLIE! It's been done by teams since the onset of the salary cap. The one problem arises when a team actually signs a free agent that htey want to keep for the length of the contract. No worries for the Skins, they still haven't ever signed one of those. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mephisto 15 Posted April 18, 2006 Don't look now, but the Redskins still suck! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ArnieBragg 1 Posted April 18, 2006 When did Snyder buy the team? I guessed 1998. Here are all of the Skins picks in rounds 3-7. the only contributor I see is Cooley. I don't think you can include Barber because they let him go and signed Armstead. How'd that work out? Depends on what your definition of contribute is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Dynasty 0 Posted April 18, 2006 1. Peter King is an idiot 2. The Patriots have built their team equally thru draft and FA signings 3. Surferskin is losing this thread 4. Surferskin does not know Matt Light because Light is a lineman. Fantasy geeks only know the fantasy-geek players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surferskin 30 Posted April 18, 2006 1. Peter King is an idiot 2. The Patriots have built their team equally thru draft and FA signings 3. Surferskin is losing this thread 4. Surferskin does not know Matt Light because Light is a lineman. Fantasy geeks only know the fantasy-geek players. 1. yes 2. yes 3. i already won. 4. i know who matt light is and have never even mentioned him in the thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Buffington 3 Posted April 18, 2006 2. The Patriots have built their team equally thru draft and FA signings What are you talking about? The only one I can think of is Harrison. Some idiot (Redskin fan) mentioned Dillon, but he was traded for a 2nd round pick. Who else is there? Reche Caldwell? Flutie? The most telling statistic is the Bears, Steelers and Pats over the past tow years have started the most draftees. If you go back further, you'd likely find teams such as the Eagles, Panthers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surferskin 30 Posted April 18, 2006 What are you talking about? The only one I can think of is Harrison. Some idiot (Redskin fan) mentioned Dillon, but he was traded for a 2nd round pick. Who else is there? Reche Caldwell? Flutie? The most telling statistic is the Bears, Steelers and Pats over the past tow years have started the most draftees. If you go back further, you'd likely find teams such as the Eagles, Panthers. mike vrabel Antowain Smith Ted Washington Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bishop82 61 Posted April 18, 2006 If that's it, why does this work for the Redskins but not for other teams? Slight correction: It doesn't work for the Redskins. Cheaters never prosper Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Buffington 3 Posted April 18, 2006 mike vrabelAntowain Smith Ted Washington Are you being serious? You equate signing Vrabel and Smith to break-the-bank type signings of the Redskins? Oh, and Washington was gotten via a trade. 4th or a 5th. You suck at this flame war stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
veebs4 2 Posted April 18, 2006 The NFL is all about winning period. It hasn't worked. Not to all of the owners. I'll bet more than a few look at how much money they made. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remote controller 143 Posted April 18, 2006 Are you being serious? You equate signing Vrabel and Smith to break-the-bank type signings of the Redskins? Oh, and Washington was gotten via a trade. 4th or a 5th. You suck at this flame war stuff. Where's Drobeski when you need a declared thread winnah???? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surferskin 30 Posted April 18, 2006 Are you being serious? You equate signing Vrabel and Smith to break-the-bank type signings of the Redskins? Oh, and Washington was gotten via a trade. 4th or a 5th. You suck at this flame war stuff. i don't think i ever compared the pats to the redskins. you're the one that said you couldn't name any of the patriots FA signings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taylor36 0 Posted April 18, 2006 The most telling statistic is the Bears, Steelers and Pats over the past tow years have started the most draftees. If you go back further, you'd likely find teams such as the Eagles, Panthers. You forgot to mention the Jets...and the Jets and Bears are not very good. Yes the Bears had a great record last season but thats due to a weak division. That is why they lost the first playoff game last season at home. If you are a team that hasnt done well drafting players then whats the next best option?? Thats right, free agency. I mean really, what difference does it make if you draft the right player or take him from another team down the road. You know that player can succeed in the NFL so who cares how you got him?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites