Jerry Porter...DUMB pick league...Draft COMMENTARY...take 2.

[SoloMatisse 0]

cmon, El.....wake up and make your pick.........

[ellisonb11 0]

fellas im up...i always get to pick early in the morning it seems like. well the guy i was hoping to grab fell to me, so im happy. i wanted to grab S. Moss or Plax, so i guess i got what i wanted. Steve smith and santana moss as the core of my WRs? i think i like.

 

sorry if i slowed this thing down, but lets keep this thing moving....it finally started to get going, i was , so sorry if i held things down.

[Rye & Leaf 0]

Santana Moss and Steve Smith are a leathal combo.

 

Sweetness is up!

[Ace08 11]

i wanted to grab S. Moss or Plax, so i guess i got what i wanted. Steve smith and santana moss as the core of my WRs? i think i like.

 

I was stuck between the same 2 guys. I ended up taking Plax only cause he's got a better QB, but little Moss has mad skills.

[football_scooter 0]

Im not worried about the gap between the #1 and #10 TEs, thankfully, because I wont have the #10. But you dont think 120pt differential is alot??? Because that's what it would have been last year.

 

I never said that. But last year was last year.

 

This year the gap should be closer to 50.

 

And we might just see another run on RBs before your next pick - and then what happens to your value at RB2? Think you won't lose more than a 50 point dropoff from the RB you could have taken at 3.05 to the RB you'll get at 4.08? I do. And if it's a RBBC guy, you'll need to burn 2 picks to fill one roster position.

 

like I said - Gates was fine value for where you took him. But you can't just look at it and say, "I got the best TE - it was a steal!" because you fail to consider that you bypassed a WR2 or RB2 to take a TE1, which pushes the value of you RB2, WR2 and WR3 down substantially. It's the domino effect. Hey, maybe you'll get really lucky and no one will take a RB between here and your next pick - but in a league of sharks like this one I wouldn't bet on that.

 

And since last year was last year and this year is this year, I'm not as convinced that Gates is going to be that valuable. He's a great receiving threat, but as mentioned - with a 1st year starter in there he might not be utilized as much. LT2 is gong to see an increased workload as a receiver - Marty has already said as much. And remember - it took [ex Chargers QB] a while to develop chemistry with him. No guarentee Rivers establishes that.

[Grateful Parrot 0]

And we might just see another run on RBs before your next pick - and then what happens to your value at RB2? Think you won't lose more than a 50 point dropoff from the RB you could have taken at 3.05 to the RB you'll get at 4.08? I do. And if it's a RBBC guy, you'll need to burn 2 picks to fill one roster position.

That's what I was thinking when I took Dillion, but your soo much better at communcating my thoughts...well maybe....yeah..you get the idea.

 

like I said - Gates was fine value for where you took him. But you can't just look at it and say, "I got the best TE - it was a steal!" because you fail to consider that you bypassed a WR2 or RB2 to take a TE1, which pushes the value of you RB2, WR2 and WR3 down substantially. It's the domino effect. Hey, maybe you'll get really lucky and no one will take a RB between here and your next pick - but in a league of sharks like this one I wouldn't bet on that.

I agree.

[Rye & Leaf 0]

. Hey, maybe you'll get really lucky and no one will take a RB between here and your next pick - but in a league of sharks like this one I wouldn't bet on that.

 

Why would you assume he is going to take a RB?

 

I'm going to work soon, so I will be back with my pick at around 9pm, unless being the FF junkie that I am, I take a peak during my lunch...I just don't like the idea of hitting a message board while I am at work.

 

 

Let us all resolve to be around this evening to knock some rounds out...

[Ace08 11]

Why would you assume he is going to take a RB?

 

I'm going to work soon, so I will be back with my pick at around 9pm, unless being the FF junkie that I am, I take a peak during my lunch...I just don't like the idea of hitting a message board while I am at work.

Let us all resolve to be around this evening to knock some rounds out...

 

Tonight is game 4, so at the very least ill be away from comp from about 7 to at least midnight by the time i get home

[football_scooter 0]

Tonight is game 4, so at the very least ill be away from comp from about 7 to at least midnight by the time i get home

 

And of course, it would be physically unpossible for you to mail your list of picks to somone on the opposite end of the draft who might be around.

 

for example, I will be watching the game, but I will also be near the PC so I can check in from time to time.

 

 

besides, you don't really need to watch...the refs make all the most crucial plays

[Ace08 11]

And of course, it would be physically unpossible for you to mail your list of picks to somone on the opposite end of the draft who might be around.

 

for example, I will be watching the game, but I will also be near the PC so I can check in from time to time.

besides, you don't really need to watch...the refs make all the most crucial plays

 

If you must know, I'm going out somewhere to watch the game. Carrying my PC with me to a bar would be quite cumbersome. I'm also not going to send a list when this is the point in the draft where you can start going several different directions based on what those around you do...therefore I need to see the picks that are made near me in order to make a decision. At this pace this is going they won't even be close to my pick by the time I have to leave.

 

Funny how I've been the least person to hold this thing up since I'm constantly on all day checking the draft...yet the only person you call out and tell them to "email a list" to is me.

 

And another thing.....I also find it funny that several people have made references to "players that haven't been drafted" lately and you haven't said a peep to them.

 

So in all honesty...kiss my a$$ and don't talk to me anymore. And maybe not right now...but whenever you get a spare moment do me a favor and get a life.

[football_scooter 0]

If you must know, I'm going out somewhere to watch the game. Carrying my PC with me to a bar would be quite cumbersome. I'm also not going to send a list when this is the point in the draft where you can start going several different directions based on what those around you do...therefore I need to see the picks that are made near me in order to make a decision. At this pace this is going they won't even be close to my pick by the time I have to leave.

 

Funny how I've been the least person to hold this thing up since I'm constantly on all day checking the draft...yet the only person you call out and tell them to "email a list" to is me.

 

And another thing.....I also find it funny that several people have made references to "players that haven't been drafted" lately and you haven't said a peep to them.

 

So in all honesty...kiss my a$$ and don't talk to me anymore. And maybe not right now...but whenever you get a spare moment do me a favor and get a life.

 

Uh, it was actually an offer to help. If you know you'll be away just send a list of picks.

 

Everyone was talking about speeding it up - I was offering a suggestion. Don't like it, that's fine. Don't do it.

 

Jesus, this is the most fragile league I've ever seen.

[ellisonb11 0]

I was stuck between the same 2 guys. I ended up taking Plax only cause he's got a better QB, but little Moss has mad skills.

 

yea, i was scrambling around and trying to decide between the two also, looking at my rankings, their schedule, bye weeks, and everything. but then i realized u were in the same position i was in, so you made the decision for me, thanks! it made everything easier. both of us i think should be happy with plax and s. moss this year.

 

Uh, it was actually an offer to help. If you know you'll be away just send a list of picks.

 

Everyone was talking about speeding it up - I was offering a suggestion. Don't like it, that's fine. Don't do it.

 

Jesus, this is the most fragile league I've ever seen.

 

scooter, league-members, lets just not get into any other scuffles anymore... scooter, they arent that fragile, they are just tired of u telling them what to do, its no big deal. im tired of everyone shooting insults at each other and such, so lets just drop all the negative comments, unless its about the draft . scooter, dont be upset if i called u out or anything, because i did not intend to, just leave other people to their lives and let them pick when they can.

 

anyway, i thought when i made my pick when i woke up that things would be movin again....i guess not. well, everyone does have work, so tonight we should make a big push in the draft.

[football_scooter 0]

scooter, they arent that fragile, they are just tired of u telling them what to do, its no big deal. im tired of everyone shooting insults at each other and such, so lets just drop all the negative comments, unless its about the draft . scooter, dont be upset if i called u out or anything, because i did not intend to, just leave other people to their lives and let them pick when they can.

1. it was a suggestion. I wasn't telling him what to do, just reiterating something others have also said.

 

2. if he doesn't like the suggestion, that's fine. No need to be a tool about it.

 

3. I am not upset in the slightest - not with you or anyone else. It's no sweat off my balls if we don't finish this until September.

 

If people want to be lazy and not send picks when they know they'll be away, that's their right. Hey, they have 12 hours, right?

 

[ellisonb11 0]

1. it was a suggestion. I wasn't telling him what to do, just reiterating something others have also said.

 

2. if he doesn't like the suggestion, that's fine. No need to be a tool about it.

 

3. I am not upset in the slightest - not with you or anyone else. It's no sweat off my balls if we don't finish this until September.

 

If people want to be lazy and not send picks when they know they'll be away, that's their right. Hey, they have 12 hours, right?

 

 

dude, i know it was a suggestion, u just stated that a couple posts ago. you just need to say O.K. after i said that. no need to give me useless reasons. lets just draft and keep to ourselves. im not taking a shot at you scooter, just understand that. its all good, and i understand it was a suggestion.

 

if i upset anybody by not picking til the morning, im sorry. i couldnt help it. i need to go to bed around 11 and i did because i had to get up early. im ready to draft at these hours, and later in the day, just not so darn late when i have to sleep.

[football_scooter 0]

dude, i know it was a suggestion, u just stated that a couple posts ago.

yet you stated that people "didn't want [me] telling them what to do"

 

Make up your mind.

 

if i upset anybody by not picking til the morning, im sorry. i couldnt help it. i need to go to bed around 11 and i did because i had to get up early. im ready to draft at these hours, and later in the day, just not so darn late when i have to sleep.

 

no one should be "upset" with anyone here over the time it takes to pick. We all want to pick, but this is a free, for fun fantasy league - we all have lives and priorities. But there are certain ways that we can speed things along if we know who we're targeting and we know we'll be away. It's a subtle nuance of a slow-draft that many don't consider.

 

But the bottom line is that we'll pick when we pick and you have no need to justify your reason for delay. You slept, you woke, you probably laid a dookie in there somewhere and none of us really needs to know any of that.

 

Y'all need to "tighten up" (whatever the hell that means)

[Grateful Parrot 0]

Jesus, this is the most fragile league I've ever seen.

[jocstrap 8]

UUUGGGGGHHHHH - - - Okay how about this thought - I might just take two more runnings backs to make that a cool 5 for my first 5 picks

 

No panzies aloud on this board - - duke it out - - but keep those picks a comin'!

[football_scooter 0]

UUUGGGGGHHHHH - - - Okay how about this thought - I might just take two more runnings backs to make that a cool 5 for my first 5 picks

 

you would have my respect forever as the ballsiest FFB-er evah!

 

No panzies aloud on this board - - duke it out - - but keep those picks a comin'!

 

 

What he said.

[Rye & Leaf 0]

still not moving...oh well....chances are when I get home in 5 hours it still might not be my turn..

[ellisonb11 0]

yea, this thing always is slooow during the day because of work N' such. but tonight we should make some good progress, unless the playoff game slows us down...

[Grateful Parrot 0]

still not moving...oh well....chances are when I get home in 5 hours it still might not be my turn..

I don't have a pick for another 18 picks....at 12hours a pick....9 days...I'll be in Florida then I'll have to take scoot up on making my picks.

[jocstrap 8]

Jocstrap back in action at 6:30 cst to check in!

[football_scooter 0]

I don't have a pick for another 18 picks....at 12hours a pick....9 days...I'll be in Florida then I'll have to take scoot up on making my picks.

 

No worriesd - I'll be happy to help. And I've seen the way you draft so I wouldn't be interested in any of the guys you want anyway.

 

hahaha

 

 

Seriously though - even if I am, it's not likely I've never heard of them and I'm far enough away from you that it wouldn't matter for ADP sake anyway.

 

just use the email link through the forums and it will get to me.

[Yippie Skippy 0]

I don't have a pick for another 18 picks....at 12hours a pick....9 days...I'll be in Florida then I'll have to take scoot up on making my picks.

 

I don't like the idea of you giving a list to anyone drafting in our league. Fumbleweed threw out an offer after declining his invite saying "if there is anything I can do"...before the previous thread was censored...errrr deleted. For the record, I read it all and never thought that it was so offensive that it deserved to be deleted. Sooner took his ball and went home. Scooter was right and beat the dead horse flatter than a runny pancake. Ya called it Clash.

 

Solo, I think that it is at least worth asking Fumbleweed. He is my #1 choice to help Parrot thru his vacation. I think all of us respect/trust him and we'd all benefit if he agreed to help.

[football_scooter 0]

Solo, I think that it is at least worth asking Fumbleweed. He is my #1 choice to help Parrot thru his vacation. I think all of us respect/trust him and we'd all benefit if he agreed to help.

 

agreed - I've been in other slow drafts where picks are sent...it usually works out ok, because there's so many picks between...I understand the trepedation though. I think your suggestion would be solid as well.

 

 

 

 

as for the description of earlier events, and

[SoloMatisse 0]

whats the topic of the day, fellas???...havent looked at anything yet...Sweet STILL hasnt picked?? Good lord.........

 

Ace-

 

good luck with your boys at the game tonight....soak it up, man....

[Clash of the Titans 1]

okay boys....this just ain't right......sweetness knew last night he was only two a way and he could have sent a list to anyone besides ellison or me of 3 players....

 

his 12 hours have expired and i have no regrets jumping over him for a pick....i even e-mailed him earlier today it was his pick..whether he is allowed to pick at anytime or at the end of the round should be made by commish matisse...but it's not fair for the rest of us who have diligently waited and checked in all day to hang in limbo AFTER his timer expired...therefore i am sacking up and picking over him

[jocstrap 8]

-- I applaud you Clash he can jump in whenever he arrives and pick his guy then. 4.08 is up!

[Yippie Skippy 0]

Funny that Sweet Vi Queen Ticeness 34 is a no show after he whined about us not contributing to his thread. Sweet, I already gave you your present with the reasons to target the QB you ended up drafting as your backup QB.

 

What are you a Sooner fan???

 

Man up and make your pick mister Payton!!!

[SoloMatisse 0]

okay boys....this just ain't right......sweetness knew last night he was only two a way and he could have sent a list to anyone besides ellison or me of 3 players....

 

his 12 hours have expired and i have no regrets jumping over him for a pick....i even e-mailed him earlier today it was his pick..whether he is allowed to pick at anytime or at the end of the round should be made by commish matisse...but it's not fair for the rest of us who have diligently waited and checked in all day to hang in limbo AFTER his timer expired...therefore i am sacking up and picking over him

 

 

good move, Clash....I have no problem here with this one bit. he didnt email me either, and I hope he's OK. He'll live being a couple of picks down. Im picking and we're keeping this thing moving.....

[Ace08 11]

Yeah but the question is....do we just keep skipping his pick or should we make a "consensus" pick on his behalf? I've never seen it done this way where we just skip his pick altogether...we should use some sort of 3rd party neutral cheat sheet and pick the next highest rated player, regardless of position. That's my take. But I'm cool with whatever you wanna do Solo.

 

whats the topic of the day, fellas???...havent looked at anything yet...Sweet STILL hasnt picked?? Good lord.........

 

Ace-

 

good luck with your boys at the game tonight....soak it up, man....

 

Thanks player....needless to say we gotta defend the home court in these next two games to have any sort of shot whatsoever in this series. I'll check in as soon as I get home to see where we're at.

[SoloMatisse 0]

we put a 12 hour limit on picks, and I stated Id make any exceptions with notice of any kind.....noone's heard from him. We'll compensate him in some way if he has a good excuse....otherwise, Im afraid he's gonna be SOL.....

 

thinking......stalling.........giving Sweetness time to pop in here and make his friggin' pick.........

[Steel City Blues 0]

Yeah but the question is....do we just keep skipping his pick or should we make a "consensus" pick on his behalf?

 

No consensus picks.

 

The year of inception of my main $ league, one guy just couldn't make the draft. All of the other teams helped make a consensus pick each round. Big surprise...the guy dominated the league. He never made it back to the playoffs after another 6 years before quitting the league.

 

 

 

For sh!ts and giggles. What if the 12 of us made consensus picks each round at the WCOFF. Analyze each round as the draft shakes out and make our picks. Don't you think odds are that team would probably be better than any one of us drafting?

[SoloMatisse 0]

No consensus picks.

 

The year of inception of my main $ league, one guy just couldn't make the draft. All of the other teams helped make a consensus pick each round. Big surprise...the guy dominated the league. He never made it back to the playoffs after another 6 years before quitting the league.

For sh!ts and giggles. What if the 12 of us made consensus picks each round at the WCOFF. Analyze each round as the draft shakes out and make our picks. Don't you think odds are that team would probably be better than any one of us drafting?

 

 

that would depend on how vocal football scooter was............

 

youre absolutely right, though that more heads are better than one, which is we're not picking for anyone here......

[Steel City Blues 0]

we put a 12 hour limit on picks, and I stated Id make any exceptions with notice of any kind.....noone's heard from him. We'll compensate him in some way if he has a good excuse....otherwise, Im afraid he's gonna be SOL.....

 

thinking......stalling.........giving Sweetness time to pop in here and make his friggin' pick.........

 

After 12 hours you think another 10 minutes is going to help?

 

I say we give Sweetness the Minnesota Vikings draft day award.

 

 

Seriously, c'mon Sweet...we need ya baby!

[Steel City Blues 0]

the Addai pick here. If Droughns was taken, Addai was my 1b. Riskier because he may not start, but the upside...Woah!!!

[SoloMatisse 0]

Sweet.........sorry. 12 hours is 12 hours. Its not 13 plus hours. You dont show or dont contact anyone, and were moving. Im glad you got who you wanted, though, so Im a little relieved it worked out. Were really tryin to move on this thing a little. Glad youre here and thanks for showin'.................nice pick by the way...........what are you gonna do for the first 6 weeks????

[Rye & Leaf 0]

Sweet, from seeing you talk about him on the main bored to looking at your most recent dynasty team, I knew you were taking Palmer.

 

Clash, nice pick. You are a pro.

[SoloMatisse 0]

Sweet, from seeing you talk about him on the main bored to looking at your most recent dynasty team, I knew you were taking Palmer.

 

 

good call, Rye.......how far do you think he may have fallen if Sweet hadnt taken him???....any plans there on your part of reeling him in???

 

and by the way, stay ready because FS should be around here soon.........

[jocstrap 8]

I'm in for the night boys 8:05 cst - I'll be checking quite often. I'm glad it worked out for sweetness too. Tighten up boys you'll officially get skipped now if your lagging!