The Elevator Killer 557 Posted July 11, 2006 Duvall O.K. I guess that's better? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shovelheadt 71 Posted July 11, 2006 It's not hard. Like your wife's cack. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bigtraine 30 Posted July 11, 2006 Good luck Toro, it took external "rewards" to finally motivate me enough to quit as well, and now it's been over 2 years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,592 Posted July 11, 2006 I call BS, you don't earn $1000 per month. THat's without even paying bills. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff Garcia 8 Posted July 11, 2006 Just like you would think that Aids would make you want to stop sucking dycks. How's that working for you? How's the alias working for you? At least I don't need an alias to speak my mind. However, pu$$ies do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toro 1 Posted July 11, 2006 :cracks knuckles: First, if you quit for a bet or a motorcycle, you will never be an ex-smoker. You will be a smoker that isn't currently smoking, and you will always WANT to have a cig/dip for the rest of your life, and it's a sh1tty way to live. You have to quit because you really want to stop and no other reason. I don't want to poo-poo you efforts, that's just the way it is. That is EVERY ex-smoker. Every ex-smoker wants a cig at some point. If I didn't want to quit, then I would not be offering it up. Notice I did not say I would quit watching porn or wacking it? Second, this whole thing reeks of "You want me to quit so bad? Then you'd better offer me someting freakin' fantastic!!!". The way it sounds, if you do something she wants, you get a reward, and if you fail she gets rewarded. That pretty much sucks no matter how you look at it. She is the bad guy in this situation. Quit for you, not because she wants you to so badly that she has to be willing to use your SHARED RESOURCES TO BUY YOU A TOY. She is not the bad guy. I would be. Also, we have already been talking about getting a bike. She poo-pooed the thought of any bike that she couldn't ride on with me comfortably. While it might be more my toy then hers, there are plenty of things in a relationship purchased in a relationship that benefit only one party. If you actually dated and/or talked to women, you might realize this. Third, motorcycles are dangerous. You're probably trading in a slow agonizing death through cancer/emphazehma (sp?) for a quick Rothlesburger-esque mashing. Rothlesburger wasn't wearing a helmet and was speeding. When I had my R1, I had full protection - gloves, jacket, helmet, boots, pants, etc. If I got another bike, it would be the same. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porkbutt 893 Posted July 11, 2006 good Lord, you are a hen-pecked sissy. be a man, and buy a focking motorcycle if you want one. also, we don't need to see gay emails to your wife. hth Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Elevator Killer 557 Posted July 11, 2006 How's the alias working for you? At least I don't need an alias to speak my mind. However, pu$$ies do. Here I am internet tuff guy. Who didn't see that coming? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ArnieBragg 1 Posted July 11, 2006 good Lord, you are a hen-pecked sissy. be a man, and buy a focking motorcycle if you want one. also, we don't need to see gay emails to your wife. hth Why the bad attitude? Did somone crack your aces? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recidivist 1 Posted July 11, 2006 good Lord, you are a hen-pecked sissy. be a man, and buy a focking motorcycle if you want one. also, we don't need to see gay emails to your wife. hth Why not just continue smoking AND get the bike? I don't see why you should have to make your two favorite pastimes mutually exclusive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Internet Tough Guy 1 Posted July 11, 2006 Here I am internet tuff guy. Who didn't see that coming? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toro 1 Posted July 11, 2006 edjr found his password. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Elevator Killer 557 Posted July 11, 2006 Sorry. My bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[zombie] 0 Posted July 11, 2006 has the inclusion of an mua clause been discussed? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toro 1 Posted July 11, 2006 ' date='Jul 11 2006, 11:48 AM' post='2512318']has the inclusion of an mua clause been discussed? mua clause would cost a lot more than that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porkbutt 893 Posted July 11, 2006 Why the bad attitude? Did somone crack your aces? i got a bad beat after limpin' in with a Q-10 offsuite..flopped Q-10, only to get beat on the river to trip deuces. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Electric Mayhem 35 Posted July 11, 2006 That is EVERY ex-smoker. Every ex-smoker wants a cig at some point. If I didn't want to quit, then I would not be offering it up. Notice I did not say I would quit watching porn or wacking it? I smoked 15 years, and I have zero desire to ever have one again. I have friends who quit for the wrong reasons, and they constantly tell me how bad they want one, even the ones that have stopped over a year ago. She is not the bad guy. I would be. Also, we have already been talking about getting a bike. She poo-pooed the thought of any bike that she couldn't ride on with me comfortably. While it might be more my toy then hers, there are plenty of things in a relationship purchased in a relationship that benefit only one party. I'm just saying that she should not have to basically pay you to stop smoking, which is the root of this method. Sure there are things that you buy to benefit one party, but not to dangle in your face like a carrot for doing something you should do anyway. That 's like saying you will pay for her to have a $7000 handbag if she promises to stop walking into traffic with her eyes closed. If you actually dated and/or talked to women, you might realize this. I take these comments in stride, but I don't like them. Cut the sh1t. I'm trying to help as someone that tried numerous times to quit but couldn't, and is much much happier now that I have. The plan you have layed out seems good on the surface, but I really think you are setting yourself up for either an argument from your wife when she tells you she shouldn't have to fund your quitting, or months/years of yearning for nicotine after the initial excitement of the wager and/or motorcycle has worn off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SigEp316 0 Posted July 11, 2006 That is EVERY ex-smoker. Every ex-smoker wants a cig at some point. I don't think this is true....most of the ex-smokers I know b!tch about cigarette smoke more than non-smokers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toro 1 Posted July 11, 2006 I smoked 15 years, and I have zero desire to ever have one again. I have friends who quit for the wrong reasons, and they constantly tell me how bad they want one, even the ones that have stopped over a year ago.I'm just saying that she should not have to basically pay you to stop smoking, which is the root of this method. Sure there are things that you buy to benefit one party, but not to dangle in your face like a carrot for doing something you should do anyway. That 's like saying you will pay for her to have a $7000 handbag if she promises to stop walking into traffic with her eyes closed. I take these comments in stride, but I don't like them. Cut the sh1t. I'm trying to help as someone that tried numerous times to quit but couldn't, and is much much happier now that I have. The plan you have layed out seems good on the surface, but I really think you are setting yourself up for either an argument from your wife when she tells you she shouldn't have to fund your quitting, or months/years of yearning for nicotine after the initial excitement of the wager and/or motorcycle has worn off. Thanks for your input. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Electric Mayhem 35 Posted July 11, 2006 Thanks for your input. I can juuuuust about make out the , but that's ok. Here's to you quitting and getting your bike. Good luck! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toro 1 Posted July 11, 2006 I can juuuuust about make out the , but that's ok. Here's to you quitting and getting your bike. Good luck! Nah. Was more of a "we have different points of view about the subject but he is being cordial so I will as well" then a . Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Electric Mayhem 35 Posted July 11, 2006 Nah. Was more of a "we have different points of view about the subject but he is being cordial so I will as well" then a . Thanks. I figured as much If you have trouble, let me know and I'll send you a copy of the book that worked for me - no strings attached, just e-mail me your addy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
L5UT1ger 0 Posted July 11, 2006 damn... this is gonna be interesting, unless of course, you decide you dont want your motorcycle anymore...if that happens, sell it spend the money, then start dipping and smoking again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toro 1 Posted July 11, 2006 I figured as much If you have trouble, let me know and I'll send you a copy of the book that worked for me - no strings attached, just e-mail me your addy. I already bought it. It should be in the mail. But thanks for the offer bro. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ArnieBragg 1 Posted July 11, 2006 Did your wife reply? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toro 1 Posted July 11, 2006 Did your wife reply? I called her and she was at Target. She'll read it when she gets home. I want her to think about it before we talk about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,592 Posted July 11, 2006 Did your wife reply? she did. all it said was "grow a set puzzy" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bert 1,128 Posted July 11, 2006 You better put a life insurance clause in the deal so when you become a bloody stain on 59 or Westheimer she will still get some benefit other than you being dead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lionsjunkie 1 Posted July 12, 2006 Get er done !!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
texasmouth 1 Posted July 12, 2006 Good luck man. If this isnt incentive enough for you then I dont know what would be......oh except for not having the breath through your throat after larynx cancer, or barely being able to breath to talk after you get lung cancer, or having the bottom of your jaw removed after getting cancer of the jaw. Again, good luck! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michael Sieger 0 Posted July 12, 2006 Here is a copy (named changed to protect the innocent): ... 3) Even after I get the motorcycle, I will be forced to sell it with NO QUESTIONS ASKED if you ever catch me smoking or dipping and you will receive that money. No excuses that it's cookoff. No excuses that I was drunk. No excuses. You catch me, I get rid of it. This way you have leverage on me even after that date to make sure that you never have to deal with my bad habit again. As an ex-smoker, this part caught my attention - twice you focus on her catching you, rather than you quitting. Its as though you are already planning for the likelihood that you will try to cheat on the bet. It should say, "if I smoke, I lose the bike." I was a 20 year smoker before quitting three years ago and still have frequent nicotine urges. Its amazing the mind games nicotine makes you play. Good luck - it can be done if you're committed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,913 Posted July 12, 2006 I don't think this is true....most of the ex-smokers I know b!tch about cigarette smoke more than non-smokers. I think it's kind of true. I still once in a while like the smell of a cigarette burning and wouldn't hate smoking one..but it isn't a consuming need. Just a passing thought once in a while. Still very glad I quit. I'm a non-smoker and one of the main reasons (besides the fact that sticking a burning pience of leaves in my mouth and sucking sounds about as unappealing as anything) is that I would never want my family to have to watch me die of a disease that I alone created. I couldn't hug my grandmother when she was dying because it was too painful. Despite it's addictiveness, if that's not motivation enough to quit you a) truly don't want to quit and truly don't care about your family. Addictions are cureable. Your point pretty much dies at "I'm a non-smoker". You're right, addictions are cureable and no one is saying they aren't. What I am saying is that is is VERY difficult. Completely worth it--especially considering your points. But if you have never been hooked on cigs, you just have no idea. I wish I had never taken them up and I congratulate you on your choice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites