With Portis injured and TO making a mockery of Dallas

[Ras66not99 0]

The Redskins may be in trouble with Ladell Betts as their go to guy now, though he does have the right body type for Saunders' offense.

 

Marshall Faulk 5-10 - 215

 

Priest Holmes 5-9 - 215

 

LaDell Betts 5-10 - 220

 

 

Body type seems ok to me

[Cos 0]

He was so injured he couldn't travel with the team?

See story just posted. HTH!

Being a Dallas fan since birth, I have once held a shred of animosity against TO, but as soon as Teague clocked him to the turf for the stunt he pulled in 49'er gear his antics really don't bother me. With sports, I take the same approach as I do with actors, I could care less what they do off the field, what they say, and what the media says. As long as they produce, make good plays or make good movies, I'm a fan. I don't really care about them on a personal level to get angry with them or whatever.

 

But, this post was pretty funny because, number one, you were quoting a Philly story about "TO causing controversy in the Dallas lockerroom".... give me a break. I watch local news everynight and we get the personal interviews and what not and I haven't seen one single player on the Dallas team express their frustration with how TO is handling himself thusfar. That doesn't mean they don't wish he would practice and do what everyone else is having to do, but I think everyone knows when he steps on the field, he is going to produce. He has A LOT to prove after that circus show in Philly and with the non-existent pre-season he has had in his first year here in Dallas, and he said he will produce.

 

Whether or not he actually is yet to be seen but all of this is completely blown out of proportion and just textbook overreaction by the media (in this case Philly's media) to cause drama and chaos.

[Ilov80s 0]

Causing problems? The only ones who thinks these are problems are the haters like Dohmer still pissed at what happened with the Eagles.

 

Thats kind of my point. Even if TO isn't causing problems, he is still causing problems because everybody around him is looking for controversy from him. TO could be a perfect angel and everyone would still be hovering around him, digging for malcontent. That itself creates the trouble. This is what happens when you act like a jacka$$; it comes back to haunt you.

[ffdomino 0]

Thats kind of my point. Even if TO isn't causing problems, he is still causing problems because everybody around him is looking for controversy from him. TO could be a perfect angel and everyone would still be hovering around him, digging for malcontent. That itself creates the trouble. This is what happens when you act like a jacka$$; it comes back to haunt you.

 

I would rather have a jackarse that can play than a bunch of donkeys (see: Eagle's WR corp) that cannot play.

[D'ohmer Simpson 0]

I would rather have a jackarse that can play than a bunch of donkeys (see: Eagle's WR corp) that cannot play.

Yeah, we thought that too. It didn't work out. Sorry.

[dcOne 2]

Compare the last 5 seasons and the Eagles have the highest winning percentage in the league. Sure the Pats have more rings, but it isn't like the Eagles haven't been to 4 NFC Championships and one SB in that time either.

 

And how'd those games work out for them?

 

 

Thats kind of my point. Even if TO isn't causing problems, he is still causing problems because everybody around him is looking for controversy from him.

 

Link?

 

By "everyone around him", you obviously mean the media and the Cowboy-hater club? Because I can't see where anyone from the Cowboys organization mentions controversy, unless it is brough up by the media in the form of a question.

[Jarvis Basnight 119]

I have to disagree with the rings are the only thing that makes a QB a winner. Brady is not a better QB, he has played on better teams and won more championships. Last time I looked a QB doesn't win the game, it is the team. If it was just the QB than Marino would have atleast 15 rings. He never won a SB, does that mean that Joe Theisman was a better QB? Phil Simms was better? Trent Dilfer?

 

This is too easy.

Put Tom Brady on the Saints and tell me that he would win 3 rings. He wouldn't. Hell, put him on about 20 different teams in the league and not only would he not win the SB, he wouldn't make the playoffs on 10 of them. It isn't because he sucks, it is because it is a team sport and he was on the best team in the league. Put McNabb on that team and there is as good a chance that they win 4 or 5 rings, just as much as they win 0.

 

Honestly this discussion has too much speculation and opinion that it could never be argued successfully. But I love arguing so bring it on!

 

- Please proove to me where Tom Brady had a better team than Donovan McNabb in the years that the Patriots won and the Eagles didn't. I agree that football is a team sport but challenge you to show me where the Pats were that much better than the Eagles.

 

- Put Tom Brady on 20 other teams.....this is a waste of time because it's pure speculation. I'm talking about the real world here, not fantasyland. Real world tells me Brady has been able to get over the hump on 3 seperate occasions and win a ring. McNabb has failed every time he's gotten close.

 

It's not opinion, I'm dealing with the facts. You are the one speculating and giving your opinion.

[texasmouth 1]

This thread is out of hand.

 

No one is going to agree.

 

[dcOne 2]

- Please proove to me where Tom Brady had a better team than Donovan McNabb in the years that the Patriots won and the Eagles didn't.

 

 

It's a simple fact, Brady is a winner and McNabb is not.

 

No one is going to agree.

 

I'm with ya on this one.

 

[Jarvis Basnight 119]

Contine with the name calling when you have nothing else. Tried and true tactic that never gets old

 

Thanks, you too

 

You leave me no choice but to call you names butt-sniff. You are not capable of reason grab-a$$, so I can no longer discuss this with you anal-lick. You are incapable of taking off your Eagle glasses crap-face.

 

[D'ohmer Simpson 0]

You leave me no choice but to call you names butt-sniff. You are not capable of reason grab-a$$, so I can no longer discuss this with you anal-lick. You are incapable of taking off your Eagle glasses crap-face.

 

I have remained calm, have not resorted to name calling, and posted facts. The fact that you can't handle that, and have to resort to childish posting and name calling is kind of sad really.

[Jarvis Basnight 119]

I have remained calm, have not resorted to name calling, and posted facts. The fact that you can't handle that, and have to resort to childish posting and name calling is kind of sad really.

 

It was a joke. You couldn't tell by the names I called you? Lighten up Francis.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You eat your boogers.

[Ilov80s 0]

By "everyone around him", you obviously mean the media and the Cowboy-hater club? Because I can't see where anyone from the Cowboys organization mentions controversy, unless it is brough up by the media in the form of a question.

 

I absolutely mean the media...this whole entire post and the 5 just like it are proof of that. I am not an Eagles fan, 49ers fan or Cowboys fan. I am 100% neutral on the issue. No matter where TO goes or what TO does, he will always be surrounded by controversy because the media (the filter between reality and the public) will always be poking, pestering, and pondering about "the latest TO antics"...whether they are real or imaginary. I am not saying the Cowboys will or won't be a playoff team this year. I am just commenting on the level of drama that has become TO's shadow.

[D'ohmer Simpson 0]

It was a joke. You couldn't tell by the names I called you? Lighten up Francis.

You eat your boogers.

Please accept my sincere apologies then.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

another classic fftoday move....
1.  act childish and call people names
2.  get called on it
3.  say it was all a joke/being sarcastic
4.  tell Francis to lighten up

 

 

[Jarvis Basnight 119]

Please accept my sincere apologies then.

another classic fftoday move....
1.  act childish and call people names
2.  get called on it
3.  say it was all a joke/being sarcastic
4.  tell Francis to lighten up

 

Apology accepted.

 

Now you will need to accept my apology. According to your list I'm starting to act a lot like Donovan McNabb. I'll try and grow up a bit.

 

[NewbieJr 541]

Some facts:

 

1) Owens has a history of self-centerdness and immaturity. This will not change. Teams mustr adapt to him, not vise-versa. If they keep him perfectly happy, he will be very productive.

2) McNabb has not yet proven he can step up and win the huge game.

3) McNabb is the NFL's second winningest quarterback since 2000.

 

These facts are not up for debate. They are all facts.

[D'ohmer Simpson 0]

I'm starting to act a lot like Donovan McNabb.

That's still a ton better than acting like TO

 

1) Owens has a history of self-centerdness and immaturity. This will not change. Teams mustr adapt to him, not vise-versa.

But Parcells will surely put TO in his place, and won't go for any of TO's antics like wearing a bicycle helmet and bicycle jersey to practice....... Oh wait.....

[Red White and Blue 81]

Didn't read any of this thread because I think I know how it turned out. Just want to say, Eagles fan here and I think any team in the East could win the division, but right now I like Philly's chances. They have the best QB in the division and possibly the best OL, STs and defensive unit, too.

[ffdomino 0]

Call me crazy, but I thought the problems with the Eagles last year was not that TO was acting up but rather the organization and McNabb could not handle TO acting up.

[GrassyKnollSniper 0]

Will TO be fined if he`s wearing any brand other than a Nike or Reebok bicycle helmet?

[D'ohmer Simpson 0]

Call me crazy, but I thought the problems with the Eagles last year was not that TO was acting up but rather the organization and McNabb could not handle TO acting up.

No, it was TO and the dissent/distraction/commotion (like with what's happening in Dallas now) he caused that was an issue. When he didn't get his way, he cried to the media, which we already know hangs on his every word.

 

By problems if you mean their record (which most agree was an anomoly) it was really the game 1 injury to McNabb, then the loss of TO (huge offensive weapon) then the season ending injuries to McNabb and Westbrook. You lose all three of your most important and best offensive players and there isn't a team out there that will do well.

 

Will TO be fined if he`s wearing any brand other than a Nike or Reebok bicycle helmet?

 

He wanted to wear a yellow jersey like the Tour de France leader does, but couldn't find one apparently, so he had to settle.

[plasma george 62]

Call me crazy, but I thought the problems with the Eagles last year was not that TO was acting up but rather the organization and McNabb could not handle TO acting up.

"Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding...what do we have for the winner Johnny."

 

If TO was in Baltimore, Ray Lewis would've taken care of the situation in the Locker Room.

Mr. Mormon Andy Reid who wants only good character choir boys who'd rather run to media news conferences to handle the bully at recess like a bunch of pussies.

[D'ohmer Simpson 0]

If TO was in Baltimore, Ray Lewis would've taken care of the situation in the Locker Room.

Mr. Mormon Andy Reid who wants only good character choir boys who'd rather run to media news conferences to handle the bully at recess like a bunch of pussies.

TO was 'taken care' of. Sadly, TO went crying to the media to cause more distraction. And which is it, does Mormon Andy Reid want good character choir boys, or does Mormon Andy Reid bring TO aboard? Serious flaw in your argument there.

[ffdomino 0]

I heard this old Redskin's QB (cannot remember who exaclty) mention that if TO was on his team he would just call a bunch of up-the-middle plays and toss up a nice lob right to TO. He would probably tell the linebackers he was doing it too. After a few of those, the WR would shut up.

 

That is how you handle things on a team with a player like TO. Shoot....look what Marvin Lewis has to handle in Cincy...that is a much worst scenario then having to deal with TO. TO is a child. Children can be dealt with. Criminals are a bit different.

 

And I do think Ray would have been able to handle TO. Two under his belt...what if one more gonna hurt?

[D'ohmer Simpson 0]

TO is a child. Children can be dealt with. Criminals are a bit different.

 

And I do think Ray would have been able to handle TO. Two under his belt...what if one more gonna hurt?

You think Ray would just shank TO, you know maybe one night late when they were both in the locker room?

[ffdomino 0]

You think Ray would just shank TO, you know maybe one night late when they were both in the locker room?

 

no (get jokes?)...but the fear of being shanked can be just as effective.

[plasma george 62]

TO was 'taken care' of. Sadly, TO went crying to the media to cause more distraction. And which is it, does Mormon Andy Reid want good character choir boys, or does Mormon Andy Reid bring TO aboard? Serious flaw in your argument there.

NO...McNabb went crying to the media, talking through the media "If TO wants to talk to me"...

Parcells WILL handle the situation that Reid couldn't.

 

Just wait, we'll be here all season.

[D'ohmer Simpson 0]

Parcells WILL handle the situation that Reid couldn't.

Yeah, I keep hearing this, but with the way TO has acted so far, it appears Parcells way of handling things is to not upset TO and let him do what he wants.

[birdbrain3X 0]

Dallas did just fine last year without TO. Don't see how he's going to cause them to crash and burn.

 

They didn't even make the playoffs.

 

Yeah, I keep hearing this, but with the way TO has acted so far, it appears Parcells way of handling things is to not upset TO and let him do what he wants.

 

Parcells will soon find out just how grave a mistake that approach is. He's already talking through the media to him. The great Tuna is intimidated already. Classic!

[shasha 0]

Since when did the NFL become the frickin WWE with all of the controversy and personal crap? TO is nursing a mild injury, an injury that even Childress says constantly creeps up on him and Parcell's policy has always been that it is up to the player to decide when he is healthy enough to play or practice, not the coaches.

 

If you really look at it that makes sense, because the players that he keeps around are guys that are competitors and if they aren't than they don't stick around for long. Not very many players make it to the NFL level by being complacent and just happy to sit on the bench, especially guys like TO. It isn't all about the money to him, he whines about not getting the ball more than anyone else. That is someone that wants to play. Plus every player knows that performance is what gets them the big paycheck, not just talent, atleast not at this point in their careers.

 

It is us and the media that keep feeding this nonsense. Personally I think that the Lance Armstrong thing was hilarious, kind of a joke at himself saying that he has been stuck on the bike for so long that it seems like he is training for the Tour De France rather than football. There was no statement of defiance there. It wasn't anything negative about the Cowboys or Parcells. It was a frickin joke, I guess that isn't allowed today. If it was Chad Johnson we would all be buying Lance Armstrong jerseys and sending video clips of Chad on the bike to our friends in emails or even using a sound bite as the punch line to a joke. But because it is TO it has to be controversial and detrimental to the team.

[D'ohmer Simpson 0]

It isn't all about the money to him,

A year after signing a contract he cries and whines, and says it should be re-done for more money and he was forced to sign a contract he didn't want

 

Yeah, it was a joke alright, a big joke and a mockery.

[shasha 0]

- Please proove to me where Tom Brady had a better team than Donovan McNabb in the years that the Patriots won and the Eagles didn't. I agree that football is a team sport but challenge you to show me where the Pats were that much better than the Eagles.

 

- Put Tom Brady on 20 other teams.....this is a waste of time because it's pure speculation. I'm talking about the real world here, not fantasyland. Real world tells me Brady has been able to get over the hump on 3 seperate occasions and win a ring. McNabb has failed every time he's gotten close.

 

It's not opinion, I'm dealing with the facts. You are the one speculating and giving your opinion.

All of the comments on both sides here are pure speculation. How can anyone with a straight face say that one guy is better than another while comparing teams and then say that it doesn't matter on one hand, but on the other it does? Hell, I'm even confused by what point you are trying to make here and I think that you are misunderstanding my point.

 

To determine which player is better than another you have to eliminate all of the variables. That means that you have to have a controlled environment and a level playing field. That means that you would have to have them perform with the exact same players against the exact same opponents in the exact same conditions, which we all know is impossible. This proves only one thing, that neither of us can be 100% sure about our OPINION here.

 

But if you are doing an experiment or comparison you can find similarities and differences and extrapolate details that can lead you to a conclusion of some type. It will not be 100% foolproof though.

 

1. Comparing WR corps, there is some differences, but not enough to really say that it is lopsided. Slight edge to Brady because of hands.

2. Brady has a superior TE group consisting of Watson and Graham. McNabb has LJ Smith who is decent enough.

3. McNabb has Westbrook out of the backfield. Brady has Faulk. Not very close here, Brian wins this one.

4. Both lines are above average.

5. Dillon is a better runner than anyone else on the Eagles when it comes to real running chores, like getting 2-3 yards.

6. Both teams have great kickers, though Vinatieri is clutch as hell.

7. Both defenses can be imposing, though Philly tailed off a little last year. Part of that is on the offense and an improved division though.

8. Both coaches are bright and keep the right kinds of players around.

9. KR/PR is in the favor of the Pats in my opinion. I don't remember the last time an Eagle ran a punt or kickoff back for a TD. I now that Troy Brown did in one of Brady's great SB wins that he did all by himself.

10. Arm strength goes to McNabb hands down, but Brady has the accuracy advantage. Neither is a bad passer, just a little better than the other at each.

11. Scrambling/running. I think that Brady moves well in the pocket, but McNabb can pick up 5 yds or more on the ground by running past or through a defender. Brady will not, no matter how much he wants to.

 

So in reality I can see where you say that one team is not that much better than the other. But if you add everything up you could probably make a case that perhaps it would be worth one more win per season, perhaps 1-3 more points in a game or something. That just happens to be about how much the Pats beat the Eagles out in a head to head matchup on stats if you are counting SB's.

 

NE didn't go into any SB and score 50 points with Brady's golden arm, they won by managing the game and everyone pulling their weight and with some luck. Didn't they win a bunch of games by 3 points or less? That isn't just the QB, that is being able to get the stops when you need them, get 2 yds on 3rd down when you need to, make that long field goal in the snow when you need it, and get that damn tuck rule call when you need it.

 

As for the NFC Championship losses, well lets look at who the Eagles lost to.

 

The Bucs beat the crap out of almost everyone, including the Raiders in that SB. To say that NE would have beaten them after not even getting there is laughable. They beat the Eagles because they were a great team that year. No one was going to beat them. The pounding they gave the Raiders was historic.

 

The Panthers almost beat NE in the SB so it wasn't like they were a terrible team either. If they would have come out passing earlier on they may have won that one. Another very good team and one of the best SB's ever, regardless who won.

 

I believe the other one was the Rams when they were still a remarkable team. NE won that game by smart scheming (tackling Faulk before he could slip out of the backfield for a pass) and by hammering the WR's when they were on the ground. Not exactly sportsmanlike, but effective and a team effort. Brady didn't stop any of those drives himself. He did manage to get the ball into position for Vinatieri to make another game winning field goal. Kind of the same way that Manning got Vanderjagt (why can't kickers have normal frickin names) into position last year to beat the Steelers.

 

But because Adam made his kick Brady is the better QB. If he missed that kick, or one of the other dozen kicks that won many other games than what? Would he be a loser that can't get a team over the hump?

[shasha 0]

A year after signing a contract he cries and whines, and says it should be re-done for more money and he was forced to sign a contract he didn't want

 

Yeah, it was a joke alright, a big joke and a mockery.

But I did say that performance is what gets them that money. I guarantee that if they won the SB that none of this would have happened, there would have been no fallout. I do see part of TO's point being that he did risk a hell of a lot to come back for that game and the contract was so blatently back loaded that he was a hired assassin, just to get one, maybe two SB runs with him and then dump him with no real cap hit. It was never really about more money, it was about security longterm for him.

 

We can sit here and judge players left and right about whining about money, but in reality these guys bring a ton of money to the owners and even other teams in the league, they are promised contracts that aren't worth the paper they are written on and when it is convenient the player is ostracized and dumped. A lot of times it is after they have given years of hard work to building that team and trusting them and then BOOM they are out the door with a few bucks thrown at them. Eddie George is a perfect example. They tried to do the same thing to McNair, restructure and backload it knowing full well that little of it was guaranteed and that it was just to get the team by, not worried about the player.

 

There are only a few marquee WR's in this league that are true game changers. Everyone of them, save 2-3 are headcases (Torry, Hines and Marvin) and they are all getting paid. Everyone of them has a solid, guaranteed contract that will take care of them. TO did not have that. And when he is on the field you can make a serious argument that he is the best in the NFL.

 

OK, weakass argument on my part and I knew that one of you would point that out to me when I posted it.

[D'ohmer Simpson 0]

But I did say that performance is what gets them that money. I guarantee that if they won the SB that none of this would have happened, there would have been no fallout. I do see part of TO's point being that he did risk a hell of a lot to come back for that game and the contract was so blatently back loaded that he was a hired assassin, just to get one, maybe two SB runs with him and then dump him with no real cap hit. It was never really about more money, it was about security longterm for him.

 

OK, weakass argument on my part and I knew that one of you would point that out to me when I posted it.

Rosenass really influenced TO in a bad way. He was getting a ton of money already, nobody put a gun to his head and made him sign it. If he wasn't happy he didn't have to sign it. And even though he didn't help them get to the SB, he went and played awesomely. When he realized he wasn't going to get more money for doing his job he decided he wanted out and started this whole mess. And I shudder to think if they won, how he would have acted. He acted this way and they lost, he would have been worse had they won, probably claiming it was all because of him. As for paying for performance, do teams take away money when a player has a down year? Exactly. TO was doing just fine in reality but wasn't happy because he didn't get what he wanted and it was made public. That's the TO world unfortunately.

[Jarvis Basnight 119]

All of the comments on both sides here are pure speculation. How can anyone with a straight face say that one guy is better than another while comparing teams and then say that it doesn't matter on one hand, but on the other it does? Hell, I'm even confused by what point you are trying to make here and I think that you are misunderstanding my point.

 

To determine which player is better than another you have to eliminate all of the variables. That means that you have to have a controlled environment and a level playing field. That means that you would have to have them perform with the exact same players against the exact same opponents in the exact same conditions, which we all know is impossible. This proves only one thing, that neither of us can be 100% sure about our OPINION here.

 

But if you are doing an experiment or comparison you can find similarities and differences and extrapolate details that can lead you to a conclusion of some type. It will not be 100% foolproof though.

 

1. Comparing WR corps, there is some differences, but not enough to really say that it is lopsided. Slight edge to Brady because of hands.

2. Brady has a superior TE group consisting of Watson and Graham. McNabb has LJ Smith who is decent enough.

3. McNabb has Westbrook out of the backfield. Brady has Faulk. Not very close here, Brian wins this one.

4. Both lines are above average.

5. Dillon is a better runner than anyone else on the Eagles when it comes to real running chores, like getting 2-3 yards.

6. Both teams have great kickers, though Vinatieri is clutch as hell.

7. Both defenses can be imposing, though Philly tailed off a little last year. Part of that is on the offense and an improved division though.

8. Both coaches are bright and keep the right kinds of players around.

9. KR/PR is in the favor of the Pats in my opinion. I don't remember the last time an Eagle ran a punt or kickoff back for a TD. I now that Troy Brown did in one of Brady's great SB wins that he did all by himself.

10. Arm strength goes to McNabb hands down, but Brady has the accuracy advantage. Neither is a bad passer, just a little better than the other at each.

11. Scrambling/running. I think that Brady moves well in the pocket, but McNabb can pick up 5 yds or more on the ground by running past or through a defender. Brady will not, no matter how much he wants to.

 

So in reality I can see where you say that one team is not that much better than the other. But if you add everything up you could probably make a case that perhaps it would be worth one more win per season, perhaps 1-3 more points in a game or something. That just happens to be about how much the Pats beat the Eagles out in a head to head matchup on stats if you are counting SB's.

 

NE didn't go into any SB and score 50 points with Brady's golden arm, they won by managing the game and everyone pulling their weight and with some luck. Didn't they win a bunch of games by 3 points or less? That isn't just the QB, that is being able to get the stops when you need them, get 2 yds on 3rd down when you need to, make that long field goal in the snow when you need it, and get that damn tuck rule call when you need it.

 

As for the NFC Championship losses, well lets look at who the Eagles lost to.

 

The Bucs beat the crap out of almost everyone, including the Raiders in that SB. To say that NE would have beaten them after not even getting there is laughable. They beat the Eagles because they were a great team that year. No one was going to beat them. The pounding they gave the Raiders was historic.

 

The Panthers almost beat NE in the SB so it wasn't like they were a terrible team either. If they would have come out passing earlier on they may have won that one. Another very good team and one of the best SB's ever, regardless who won.

 

I believe the other one was the Rams when they were still a remarkable team. NE won that game by smart scheming (tackling Faulk before he could slip out of the backfield for a pass) and by hammering the WR's when they were on the ground. Not exactly sportsmanlike, but effective and a team effort. Brady didn't stop any of those drives himself. He did manage to get the ball into position for Vinatieri to make another game winning field goal. Kind of the same way that Manning got Vanderjagt (why can't kickers have normal frickin names) into position last year to beat the Steelers.

 

But because Adam made his kick Brady is the better QB. If he missed that kick, or one of the other dozen kicks that won many other games than what? Would he be a loser that can't get a team over the hump?

 

Dude, this novel you just wrote was so long and so inconsistent that it's hard to read. The way you explain the Superbowls and how your "unorthodox" math equals 1 more win per year and 1-3 more points per game is .

 

There's really nothing you can say beyond 3-0. Brady 3. McNabb 0. I'm not even a Patriot fan but I give respect where respect's due. Sure, what Philly has done in the past 5 years is very good but it's not as good as 3 Superbowls in 5 years is it?

[ffdomino 0]

Wow....I am going to need speed reading courses for this post....

[Phurfur 70]

I would rather have a jackarse that can play than a bunch of donkeys (see: Eagle's WR corp) that cannot play.

 

How about a Jackarse who won't play.

[ffdomino 0]

When has TO not played? One thing you have to respect about TO is that he always plays when he hits field. It is just the shiat he does off the field that is the problem.

[The Next Generation 10]

"Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding...what do we have for the winner Johnny."

 

If TO was in Baltimore, Ray Lewis would've taken care of the situation in the Locker Room.

Mr. Mormon Andy Reid who wants only good character choir boys who'd rather run to media news conferences to handle the bully at recess like a bunch of pussies.

 

OK, so the whole world is out of step BUT T.O. It was the 49ers and Garcia. It was the Eagles and McNabb. Those people are so out of touch. Every interview I see with them it becomes more and more obvious.

 

Read the transcript of the arbitors decision. It is SO obvious that T.O. would NEVER have let anything deter him from disrupting the entire team it isn't even funny. No Ray Lewis beatings, no team beat behind the woodshed, NOTHING.

 

Carry on with this useless thread...

[Cowboy918 0]

Ok now wait just one minute? Did I miss something? Has TO really done anything other than hold himself out due to "injury" ? Seriously, what else has he done. He hasn't pimp slapped Bledsoe or called him gay. he hasn't bucked the system. He simply hasn't practiced?

 

I am not and never have been a TO fan. I am not a Dallas fan. As I see it Dallas & New York have the best chance to win the division and the Redskins aren't going to be bad either. If there was a 5th place in the division that's where Philly would be.

 

Way too much TO hate around here. When the man does something that merits a "He's ruining the Dallas team" comment then let him have it, but until then fockin get over it.

Well I am a Dallas fan and well said......