Commentary Rounds 6-8

[PackerAaron 0]

Eagle, Urlacher has been taken!

You guys all need Draft Buddy :ph34r:

You need to make it free.

 

[football_scooter 0]

Eagle, Urlacher has been taken!

You guys all need Draft Buddy :ph34r:

You need to make it free.

 

You need to panhandle for all of the 17 minutes it'd take you to bum a lousy $10 to buy it, ya cheap *******.

 

lol

[Bouve 0]

give him Brooking and lets go.

[Zap 0]

Will Proxy for the Urlacher oops in a few minutes.

[PackerAaron 0]

Eagle, Urlacher has been taken!

You guys all need Draft Buddy :ph34r:

You need to make it free.

 

You need to panhandle for all of the 17 minutes it'd take you to bum a lousy $10 to buy it, ya cheap *******.

 

lol

The only money I pay for fantasy football are my leagues fee and internet service.

Why pay for anything else? The work the Draft Buddy does is the work I enjoy doing myself.

[FFKingofthemall 0]

Eagle, Urlacher has been taken!

You guys all need Draft Buddy :ph34r:

You need to make it free.

 

You need to panhandle for all of the 17 minutes it'd take you to bum a lousy $10 to buy it, ya cheap *******.

 

lol

The only money I pay for fantasy football are my leagues fee and internet service.

Why pay for anything else? The work the Draft Buddy does is the work I enjoy doing myself.

I agree with this. I'll take a look at projections and whatnot but I'd rather use my own brain to figure out who to take. Plus, I can't use any of that stuff. Draft dominator, I can't even figure out. Another good reason not to use products like these is if you do badly. If your team sucks you only have yourself to blame unless you use something like Draft buddy. I strongly suggest buying it if it works for you but it doesn't seem to be my thing.

[The Moz 69]

ZAP -- time to use the consensus for Barnaby ! while the others are still here

[Zap 0]

BleedingEagles is here too.

[PackerAaron 0]

Ahem, not that Draft Buddy is not a first rate product that is produced by my good friends at FFToday.

 

[Bouve 0]

All the compiler does is cut down on the hand writing. All you do is put in the numbers and it adds up the numbers for you and puts them all in order (position, overall, etc).

 

The draft buddy keeps track of all the teams as well as automatically takes off the players taken from your imported cheatsheet from the compiler.

[FFKingofthemall 0]

Ahem, not that Draft Buddy is not a first rate product that is produced by my good friends at FFToday.

 

Of course, there is no denying this.

[The Moz 69]

Ahem, not that Draft Buddy is not a first rate product that is produced by my good friends at FFToday.

 

           

Of course, there is no denying this.

a bit off topic -- just wondering -- what mall are you king of ? :ph34r:

 

[PackerAaron 0]

All the compiler does is cut down on the hand writing. All you do is put in the numbers and it adds up the numbers for you and puts them all in order (position, overall, etc).

 

The draft buddy keeps track of all the teams as well as automatically takes off the players taken from your imported cheatsheet from the compiler.

But you see, I hate projections. I hate using #s to make up my draft board. Do you think NFL teams look at college prospects' #s from thier college career and just plug them into a computer? That is only one part of the process. There's looking at how the player plays on tape, how he'll fit into an offensive/defensive system, ect. I enjoy using all these methods when scouting for my fantasy team.

[football_scooter 0]

  I agree with this. I'll take a look at projections and whatnot but I'd rather use my own brain to figure out who to take. Plus, I can't use any of that stuff. Draft dominator, I can't even figure out. Another good reason not to use products like these is if you do badly. If your team sucks you only have yourself to blame unless you use something like Draft buddy. I strongly suggest buying it if it works for you but it doesn't seem to be my thing.

 

But you see, I hate projections. I hate using #s to make up my draft board. Do you think NFL teams look at college prospects' #s from thier college career and just plug them into a computer? That is only one part of the process. There's looking at how the player plays on tape, how he'll fit into an offensive/defensive system, ect. I enjoy using all these methods when scouting for my fantasy team.

 

I tend to be a little bit more open to other people's opinions, myself. And no one is saying you shouldn't use your own mind and all of the available methods when scouting a FFB team. This is simply one additional method available to you for a very minimal cost.

 

(no, I do not work here, but they should pay me royalties for this glowing endorsement....*cough - free T-Shirt, cough!*)

 

 

I used to think like you, until I checked out the draft compiler this season.

 

The insinuation that using the draft compiler requires less thought process than making your own is a pretty shallow p.o.v. Generally in life, the more information you have, the better of fyou are - and that holds true whether you agree or disagree with the information you are evaluating.

 

Using critical thinking, I can easily use their rankings system as a benchmark to enhance the hard work that I have done in the off season in making my own projections. Some I might agree with, and some I might not. some players I won't draft on personal taste alone, and some I will take past injury history into account.

 

but to get the perspective of where many people rank the players, in my humble opinion, is worth the $10 alone. I can make whatever projections and rankings I like (and I do - usually starting as early as March...February this season) but if I don't have a good impression of those players' "market value" then i might well blow it by reaching for one player, or waiting too long on another because *my* rankings might dictate otherwise.

 

Instead of seeing it as an alternative to your own projections, you should try to think of it as a tool to enhance your projections. Really I just thought I'd check it out and $10 was a very small price to pay. I used a very small % of my 2003 FFB winnings to buy it. But when I saw how it worked and that i could incorporate my own projections into the mix, I started to really like it.

 

And even if it ends up only remotely close to their rankings/projections by the time I'm done customizing it, it still makes a GREAT draft tool, in that you have the players listed, color coded and the BYE week data all right there. That alone saved me so much work in Excel that it was SO worthwhile to spend the $.

 

My $.02

[FFKingofthemall 0]

Well, my main money league is with a group of buddies and SERIOUS money is on the line. We have our drafts at one person's pad each year. Having the draft buddy wouldn't help in that situation for me. I will just bring a mag and the knowledge in my brain. We just started the keeper version of the league last year and I won it. Very excited to murder them again this season .

[Bouve 0]

All the compiler does is cut down on the hand writing. All you do is put in the numbers and it adds up the numbers for you and puts them all in order (position, overall, etc).

 

The draft buddy keeps track of all the teams as well as automatically takes off the players taken from your imported cheatsheet from the compiler.

But you see, I hate projections. I hate using #s to make up my draft board. Do you think NFL teams look at college prospects' #s from thier college career and just plug them into a computer? That is only one part of the process. There's looking at how the player plays on tape, how he'll fit into an offensive/defensive system, ect. I enjoy using all these methods when scouting for my fantasy team.

LOL are you serious?

 

How can you compare the real NFL scouting process to that of fantasy land?

 

In fantasy football all you can base your judgement on is numbers (both previous and predicited).

[Zap 0]

What happened to Mike? FFKing why did you post that "nice" comment in the draft thread? What did I miss? Why hasn't he picked? Did the compiler implode?

[football_scooter 0]

LOL are you serious?

 

How can you compare the real NFL scouting process to that of fantasy land?

 

In fantasy football all you can base your judgement on is numbers (both previous and predicited).

 

I don't think he knows it, but he is using projections already. He must really hate himself.

 

 

 

Good thing we don't have 52 man rosters and have to be worried about salary cap or anything *real* like that when evaluating talent, eh?

 

As for the numbers, what do you think seperates a 1st round NFL draft pick from a 4th rounder? You think NFL GMs toss a golf tee up in the air and wherever it points is their next pick?

 

stats don't lie, and "intangibles" are for suckers. I told someone on another forum this when they were espousing the merrits of Barlow's character and leadership to me:

when they keep a measurable statistic on it that produces fantasy points for my team, i will begin to use character and leadership in my process for scouting players.

 

Until then, I have stats.

[Mike MacGregor 20]

I'm back. Dinner called.

 

Interesting comments on the Compiler and Buddy and their perceived value to different people. Thanks guys, I appreciate it.

[Mike MacGregor 20]

Ballsy pick by FFA taking Winslow, but I like it

[Bouve 0]

Possible reach for Winslow, I have him going late next round or early round 8 and that is in a regular league without IDP.

[The Moz 69]

On the compiler -- I am sure it's great ! Mike wouldn't have it here if it wasn't.

 

To me it just takes some of the fun out of it doing it on the PC.

 

For me there's nothing like taking out the old paper and pen ! Laugh if you must but for me thats how it is.

 

I tend to think I know enough that all I need by draft time is a list of the players available.

 

just my .02

[Mike MacGregor 20]

Possible reach for Winslow, I have him going late next round or early round 8 and that is in a regular league without IDP.

Yeah, let me qualify that. I like Winslow's potential, even in his rookie season, but this is earlier than I thought he would go. After FFA's next pick, he does have a long while to wait though.

[Bouve 0]

Possible reach for Winslow, I have him going late next round or early round 8 and that is in a regular league without IDP.

Yeah, let me qualify that. I like Winslow's potential, even in his rookie season, but this is earlier than I thought he would go. After FFA's next pick, he does have a long while to wait though.

I got him at 7.5 in yesterdays mock and even I thought it was slightly early and that mock had no IDP's.

[Bouve 0]

I couldn't disagree anymore with the picks of Bulluck and Gates. Better players at both positions were available.

[FFKingofthemall 0]

Oh well, I'm high on both these guys and don't think I'll be able to get them on the way back.

[Grigs Allmoon 0]

Ahem, not that Draft Buddy is not a first rate product that is produced by my good friends at FFToday.

 

            

Of course, there is no denying this.

a bit off topic -- just wondering -- what mall are you king of ? :ph34r:

 

I wondered the same thing a few weeks back. I think he has inspired me to run for FF King of my local mall.

[football_scooter 0]

Rod Smith at 7.3 could be the steal of the draft. I contemplated taking him with my last pick.

[Bouve 0]

Predict a defensive run to begin shortly.

[football_scooter 0]

Wow - am I dreaming, or might I actually get a pick tonight?

 

cooooool

[Zap 0]

Butcher is away. I'll use the break to update that little run of picks. Nice job again. We've made my goal for the day. I'm going to have to raise my expectations.

[Zap 0]

Short predraft lists roxor! Thanks FF Aff and BleedingEaglesGreen. BEG listed one player, RoyRoy, and got him. Beautimous...

[Butcher 0]

Give me one second. That went fast!

[Zap 0]

Give me one second. That went fast!

Your second has expired. I'm proxy man tonight!

 

PackerAaron also seems to be away. This is harder from home with my household in the early evening. I'm stepping away for a few minutes. I think there will be a slight lull after Butcher. I'll update then. Someone may want to double check me afterwards.

[Zap 0]

Are we having fun!?

[Zap 0]

It's been a 20 minute wait for PA. I'll give him an hour. He was here not long ago discussing Draft Buddy. Just sort of vanished. 40 minutes and I'll pick for him, Grigs will still be awake, and scooter will get his pick. Bluepointer said, he'd check in late tonight. So those of you here and close, may want to send short lists to get us into round 8 tonight.

[BleedingEagleGreen 0]

I'll poke in and out for another hour or so, but then it's bedtime for the Eagles fan. None other than Barnaby himself will be checking in from his hotel room later tonight (around 11 PM Pacific time) and will make his pick, if necessary, then. Otherwise I'll do it early in the AM.

[football_scooter 0]

i will be here for a few, then headed home, so I will be back on within an hour at the outside. I want to pick, damnit!

[FFKingofthemall 0]

I doubt I'm giong to pick again tonight. I will be able to pick most of the night. Will be gone from about 8-10:30 or 11. I'll send a list if I must.

[Zap 0]

I doubt I'm giong to pick again tonight. I will be able to pick most of the night. Will be gone from about 8-10:30 or 11. I'll send a list if I must.

I don't care for long lists. You're good to go. If this comes back to you and you're not ready, I'll wait til morning.