edjr 6,580 Posted July 17, 2009 And they were trying to make it harder for him. Never seen a tennis court that they tried to Roger proof. but yes...Id like to see some shorter narrow courses...but Tiger has done pretty well there too. Because he is pretty darn good hacking it out of rough and so good around the greens. He is not the longest hitter off the tee...some people still think that. Where he is long is from the fairway and how high he can hit those long irons and still get them to stop...that is where he just kills people. as i have stated already. tiger has only won 2 majors on par 70 courses. Why is that? because he doesn't have 8 extra par 5's to dominate. Shorter courses, par 70, thicker rough = how to tiger proof a course. Not what the masters did and don't get me wrong, Tiger is probably the best all around golfer anyway with ease, he is not the longest, but he's the best on par 5's and it's not close. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted July 17, 2009 Agreed that he is best on par 5s...again, not from his length off the tee but his length with long irons and the ability to hit them high. And even if he misses...he is money around the greens. This week it again seems he struggled to be comfortable at all with his driver and it was all over the place. Does not matter much where he plays if he is hitting it like that off the tee. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,580 Posted July 17, 2009 and what do you know? as soon as I hit "reply" tiger reaches the last par 5 in 2 and now has a decent shot at making he cut. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,580 Posted July 17, 2009 Agreed that he is best on par 5s...again, not from his length off the tee but his length with long irons and the ability to hit them high. And even if he misses...he is money around the greens. This week it again seems he struggled to be comfortable at all with his driver and it was all over the place. Does not matter much where he plays if he is hitting it like that off the tee. that is what made Greg Norman the best as well. His ability to hit long irons so high, they looked like he could spin them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,580 Posted July 18, 2009 Does anyone know what Tiger is doing today? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MattHale 0 Posted July 18, 2009 Does anyone know what Tiger is doing today? He is at home throwing the mother of all tantrums! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMoney 0 Posted July 19, 2009 I bet NBC still spends 33% of the time showing old tiger highlights or talking about him.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remote controller 143 Posted July 19, 2009 I bet NBC still spends 33% of the time showing old tiger highlights or talking about him.... NBC has Wood's for Obama! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted July 19, 2009 Does anyone know what Tiger is doing today? His hot swedish wife? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted July 19, 2009 I bet NBC still spends 33% of the time showing old tiger highlights or talking about him.... Why? The tournament was on ABC. And probably still got better ratings than any tennis tournament this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jocstrap 8 Posted July 19, 2009 Why? The tournament was on ABC. And probably still got better ratings than any tennis tournament this year. - - Not even close Wimbledon finals ratings best in 10 yearsEmail Print Share Associated Press NEW YORK -- Roger Federer and Andy Roddick's epic Wimbledon final last Sunday was the most-viewed men's final at the All England Club in 10 years. NBC said Thursday that an average of 5.71 million people tuned in to watch Federer win his record-setting 15th Grand Slam title. The number was the highest since Pete Sampras beat Andre Agassi in the 1999 final, attracting 5.85 million viewers. The 3.8 rating and 10 share was the best for a men's final since Sampras defeated Patrick Rafter in 2000, and surpassed last year's classic between Federer and Rafael Nadal by 9 percent. Federer beat Roddick 5-7, 7-6 (6), 7-6 (5), 3-6, 16-14 in a match that lasted 4 hours, 16 minutes. The fifth set was the longest in major final history. With the news that Tiger Woods has missed the cut at the British Open, ABC’s ratings for the weekend telecasts will likely be just a shadow of what they’d have been were he in contention.Here is a table of historical British Open ratings. Sadly, I don’t have the data from 2008. Number of Household Number Number Year Telecasts Rating Share of Homes of Persons Winner 2007** 2 3.1 10 3,474,000 4,220,000 Padraig Harrington 2006** 2 3.9 12 4,339,000 5,333,000 Tiger Woods 2005 2 4.2 13 4,620,000 5,468,000 Tiger Woods 2004 2 3.6 12 3,888,000 4,907,000 Todd Hamilton 2003 2 3.9 13 4,152,000 4,941,000 Ben Curtis 2002 2 4.2 14 4,473,000 5,754,000 Ernie Els 2001 2 4.1 15 4,216,000 5,446,000 David Duval 2000 2 5.9 19 5,617,000 7,312,000 Tiger Woods 1999 1 4.8 14 4,775,000 6,003,000 Paul Lawrie 1998 2 4.3 15 4,187,000 5,221,000 Mark O’Meara 1997 2 4.1 15 3,958,000 5,289,000 Justin Leonard 1996 2 2.9 10 2,782,000 3,675,000 Tom Lehman 1995 2 4.1 14 3,914,000 4,953,000 John Daly 1994 2 3.4 13 3,203,000 4,027,000 Nick Price 1993 2 3.8 14 3,538,000 4,342,000 Greg Norman 1992 2 2.9 11 2,671,000 3,575,000 Nick Faldo 1991 2 2.8 12 2,610,000 3,460,860 Ian Baker-Finch http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/07/17/briti...isses-cut/23022 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,580 Posted July 20, 2009 [/color] - - Not even close Wimbledon finals ratings best in 10 yearsEmail Print Share Associated Press NEW YORK -- Roger Federer and Andy Roddick's epic Wimbledon final last Sunday was the most-viewed men's final at the All England Club in 10 years. NBC said Thursday that an average of 5.71 million people tuned in to watch Federer win his record-setting 15th Grand Slam title. The number was the highest since Pete Sampras beat Andre Agassi in the 1999 final, attracting 5.85 million viewers. The 3.8 rating and 10 share was the best for a men's final since Sampras defeated Patrick Rafter in 2000, and surpassed last year's classic between Federer and Rafael Nadal by 9 percent. Federer beat Roddick 5-7, 7-6 (6), 7-6 (5), 3-6, 16-14 in a match that lasted 4 hours, 16 minutes. The fifth set was the longest in major final history. With the news that Tiger Woods has missed the cut at the British Open, ABC’s ratings for the weekend telecasts will likely be just a shadow of what they’d have been were he in contention.Here is a table of historical British Open ratings. Sadly, I don’t have the data from 2008. Number of Household Number Number Year Telecasts Rating Share of Homes of Persons Winner 2007** 2 3.1 10 3,474,000 4,220,000 Padraig Harrington 2006** 2 3.9 12 4,339,000 5,333,000 Tiger Woods 2005 2 4.2 13 4,620,000 5,468,000 Tiger Woods 2004 2 3.6 12 3,888,000 4,907,000 Todd Hamilton 2003 2 3.9 13 4,152,000 4,941,000 Ben Curtis 2002 2 4.2 14 4,473,000 5,754,000 Ernie Els 2001 2 4.1 15 4,216,000 5,446,000 David Duval 2000 2 5.9 19 5,617,000 7,312,000 Tiger Woods 1999 1 4.8 14 4,775,000 6,003,000 Paul Lawrie 1998 2 4.3 15 4,187,000 5,221,000 Mark O’Meara 1997 2 4.1 15 3,958,000 5,289,000 Justin Leonard 1996 2 2.9 10 2,782,000 3,675,000 Tom Lehman 1995 2 4.1 14 3,914,000 4,953,000 John Daly 1994 2 3.4 13 3,203,000 4,027,000 Nick Price 1993 2 3.8 14 3,538,000 4,342,000 Greg Norman 1992 2 2.9 11 2,671,000 3,575,000 Nick Faldo 1991 2 2.8 12 2,610,000 3,460,860 Ian Baker-Finch http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/07/17/briti...isses-cut/23022 Sho not know Nuff. wrong again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted July 20, 2009 [/color] - - Not even close Wimbledon finals ratings best in 10 yearsEmail Print Share Associated Press NEW YORK -- Roger Federer and Andy Roddick's epic Wimbledon final last Sunday was the most-viewed men's final at the All England Club in 10 years. NBC said Thursday that an average of 5.71 million people tuned in to watch Federer win his record-setting 15th Grand Slam title. The number was the highest since Pete Sampras beat Andre Agassi in the 1999 final, attracting 5.85 million viewers. The 3.8 rating and 10 share was the best for a men's final since Sampras defeated Patrick Rafter in 2000, and surpassed last year's classic between Federer and Rafael Nadal by 9 percent. Federer beat Roddick 5-7, 7-6 (6), 7-6 (5), 3-6, 16-14 in a match that lasted 4 hours, 16 minutes. The fifth set was the longest in major final history. With the news that Tiger Woods has missed the cut at the British Open, ABC’s ratings for the weekend telecasts will likely be just a shadow of what they’d have been were he in contention.Here is a table of historical British Open ratings. Sadly, I don’t have the data from 2008. Number of Household Number Number Year Telecasts Rating Share of Homes of Persons Winner 2007** 2 3.1 10 3,474,000 4,220,000 Padraig Harrington 2006** 2 3.9 12 4,339,000 5,333,000 Tiger Woods 2005 2 4.2 13 4,620,000 5,468,000 Tiger Woods 2004 2 3.6 12 3,888,000 4,907,000 Todd Hamilton 2003 2 3.9 13 4,152,000 4,941,000 Ben Curtis 2002 2 4.2 14 4,473,000 5,754,000 Ernie Els 2001 2 4.1 15 4,216,000 5,446,000 David Duval 2000 2 5.9 19 5,617,000 7,312,000 Tiger Woods 1999 1 4.8 14 4,775,000 6,003,000 Paul Lawrie 1998 2 4.3 15 4,187,000 5,221,000 Mark O’Meara 1997 2 4.1 15 3,958,000 5,289,000 Justin Leonard 1996 2 2.9 10 2,782,000 3,675,000 Tom Lehman 1995 2 4.1 14 3,914,000 4,953,000 John Daly 1994 2 3.4 13 3,203,000 4,027,000 Nick Price 1993 2 3.8 14 3,538,000 4,342,000 Greg Norman 1992 2 2.9 11 2,671,000 3,575,000 Nick Faldo 1991 2 2.8 12 2,610,000 3,460,860 Ian Baker-Finch http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/07/17/briti...isses-cut/23022 Wow. That's gonna leave a mark. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMoney 0 Posted July 20, 2009 Why? The tournament was on ABC. And probably still got better ratings than any tennis tournament this year. probably?...golfs ratings minus tiger arent as great as you think.... thank you mr watson for that epic choke on 18 and the worst tiebreak in majors history....thank you...because you just saved whatever ratings they had... most golf fans switched to see charles barkley do his thing on the pro-am... the fact that we are talking ratings at least clears up that theres no argument right now about federer>woods.. even when federer loses a set or struggles..he doesnt act like the sporting worlds biggest a$$ everytime..wow..and the golf fans love this guy....classy.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMoney 0 Posted July 20, 2009 Wow. That's gonna leave a mark. I bet after being owned on that topic, sho threw his keyboard towards the ground like his hero tigger does..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted July 20, 2009 Sho not know Nuff. wrong again Yup, I was wrong...though, it took the best ratings the tournament has had in 10 years apparently. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted July 20, 2009 probably?...golfs ratings minus tiger arent as great as you think.... thank you mr watson for that epic choke on 18 and the worst tiebreak in majors history....thank you...because you just saved whatever ratings they had... most golf fans switched to see charles barkley do his thing on the pro-am... the fact that we are talking ratings at least clears up that theres no argument right now about federer>woods.. even when federer loses a set or struggles..he doesnt act like the sporting worlds biggest a$$ everytime..wow..and the golf fans love this guy....classy.. Its not my contention that golf ratings are that high...its that Tennis ratings blow goats that badly. Yes, Tiger is the sporting world's biggest a$$. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,580 Posted July 20, 2009 I hope you're all ready for the Tennis US OPEN. look for a Bjorn Borg vs Johnny McEnroe final. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMoney 0 Posted July 20, 2009 Its not my contention that golf ratings are that high...its that Tennis ratings blow goats that badly. Yes, Tiger is the sporting world's biggest a$$. you tolerate his behavior? anyway...that rick reilly ending was downright weird...watson will go home to his killer wife...shes pretty considering hes a 59 year old guy but that was pretty dumb..rick reilly has gone downhill quicker than tiger has lately...from the back of SI to writing fluff pieces for golf... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,580 Posted July 20, 2009 you tolerate his behavior? anyway...that rick reilly ending was downright weird...watson will go home to his killer wife...shes pretty considering hes a 59 year old guy but that was pretty dumb..rick reilly has gone downhill quicker than tiger has lately...from the back of SI to writing fluff pieces for golf... did Waston's wife get a botox injection this morning because she knew she would be on TV? ugh, that sh!t is gross. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted July 20, 2009 you tolerate his behavior? anyway...that rick reilly ending was downright weird...watson will go home to his killer wife...shes pretty considering hes a 59 year old guy but that was pretty dumb..rick reilly has gone downhill quicker than tiger has lately...from the back of SI to writing fluff pieces for golf... Whose behavior Tigers? I could do without some of it. However, some of you whiners are overblowing it big time. Newbie going on about it with comments from Peter focking Jacobsen is priceless though. Reilly was not that great when in SI. Always kind of annoying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted July 20, 2009 Whose behavior Tigers?I could do without some of it. However, some of you whiners are overblowing it big time. Newbie going on about it with comments from Peter focking Jacobsen is priceless though. Sportscenter ran a piece on it and featured graphics of the exact Twitter post, showing some of Tiger's classic flip-outs. Christ, if Tiger-loving ESPN thought it was worthy of a mention, it sure has hell warrants a discussion on this board. Other than possibly Brett Favre, Woods is the number one salesman of all-things-Tiger. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted July 20, 2009 Sportscenter ran a piece on it and featured graphics of the exact Twitter post, showing some of Tiger's classic flip-outs. Christ, if Tiger-loving ESPN thought it was worthy of a mention, it sure has hell warrants a discussion on this board. Other than possibly Brett Favre, Woods is the number one salesman of all-things-Tiger. And they ran a piece on it probably based on the Jacobsen twitter post. And he has a nice bunch of flip outs. Did ESPN think it was worthy enough to call him a doosh and act as if he killed a baby seal like you ahve? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted July 20, 2009 And they ran a piece on it probably based on the Jacobsen twitter post. And he has a nice bunch of flip outs.Did ESPN think it was worthy enough to call him a doosh and act as if he killed a baby seal like you ahve? They can't do that. They know he has too many fans right now. Wait until his downward spiral gets a little worse. His temper will continue to get worse and worse as his frustration mounts. More and more golfers will start coming forward saying he's embarrassing the gentlemen's sport. It's about to get good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted July 20, 2009 They can't do that. They know he has too many fans right now. Wait until his downward spiral gets a little worse. His temper will continue to get worse and worse as his frustration mounts. More and more golfers will start coming forward saying he's embarrassing the gentlemen's sport. It's about to get good. Or they realize they would look just as dumb as you if they kept going on and on and on about such an issue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted July 20, 2009 Or they realize they would look just as dumb as you if they kept going on and on and on about such an issue. I'll bet it becomes an issue on an upcoming Sports Reporters episode. Once it is 'out there', especially when it's brought up by a fellow professional, it only begins to grow and grow. The next time his inner-nine year-old surfaces, it will become a very hot topic. Especially if he's still playing poorly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted July 20, 2009 I'll bet it becomes an issue on an upcoming Sports Reporters episode. Once it is 'out there', especially when it's brought up by a fellow professional, it only begins to grow and grow. The next time his inner-nine year-old surfaces, it will become a very hot topic. Especially if he's still playing poorly. Yes...Im sure ESPN and the Sports Reporters are just chomping at the bit hoping for another quote from Peter Jacobsen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,580 Posted July 20, 2009 Yes...Im sure ESPN and the Sports Reporters are just chomping at the bit hoping for another quote from Peter Jacobsen. but he's the voice of Golden Tee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted July 20, 2009 Yes...Im sure ESPN and the Sports Reporters are just chomping at the bit hoping for another quote from Peter Jacobsen. The big-shots are never the first to open their mouths. They have too much on the line. Don't worry, the door has been opened. Also, what do Peter Jacobson and Tiger Woods have in common? Neither made the cut at the Open. H to the T to the H. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,580 Posted July 20, 2009 The big-shots are never the first to open their mouths. They have too much on the line. Don't worry, the door has been opened. Also, what do Peter Jacobson and Tiger Woods have in common? Neither made the cut at the Open. H to the T to the H. Who was the 1st person to bring up steroids? a 70 year old Gary Player. of course none of the current players would ever hint Tiger might have, is still doing steroids. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted July 20, 2009 Who was the 1st person to bring up steroids? a 70 year old Gary Player. of course none of the current players would ever hint Tiger might have, is still doing steroids. Gary Player >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Peter Jacobsen. HTH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,580 Posted July 20, 2009 Gary Player >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Peter Jacobsen.HTH As a player yes, absolutely. Player didn't have the sack to admit it was Tiger he was talking about when he mentioned steroids. Jake had the sack to call Tiger out specifically. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted July 20, 2009 Interesting enough, they were trying on local radio today to come up with comparable things to a 59 year old making the final group and coming close to winning the Open. Some nice examples from sports that many would agree are even more physically grueling than golf...and would compare to even...gulp...tennis. Gordie Howe played hockey til he was 51 years old...and played in all 80 games for Hartford in 1979. Hell, Jaime Moyer is still pitching and he is 47. George Forman was 45 when he again won a heavyweight title by KO. Connors made the semi finals at the US Open when he was 39. Nolan Ryan was throwing no-hitters in his 40s. There are examples like this all over the place...yet, some here think Golf is the only sport where older guys can compete. Yes, you can compete a little bit longer...but some of the greats in other sports continued playing and playing well to their 40s and Howe in his 50s was still playing freaking hockey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMoney 0 Posted July 20, 2009 Interesting enough, they were trying on local radio today to come up with comparable things to a 59 year old making the final group and coming close to winning the Open. Some nice examples from sports that many would agree are even more physically grueling than golf...and would compare to even...gulp...tennis. Gordie Howe played hockey til he was 51 years old...and played in all 80 games for Hartford in 1979. Hell, Jaime Moyer is still pitching and he is 47. George Forman was 45 when he again won a heavyweight title by KO. Connors made the semi finals at the US Open when he was 39. Nolan Ryan was throwing no-hitters in his 40s. There are examples like this all over the place...yet, some here think Golf is the only sport where older guys can compete. Yes, you can compete a little bit longer...but some of the greats in other sports continued playing and playing well to their 40s and Howe in his 50s was still playing freaking hockey. and droppin the focking gloves, mind you..... but Im not 1 saying that golf is the only sport where u can win a major while taking a wilford brimley kit and driving a buick.... but my point was helped by watson this weekend....hes 59 and has a replacement hip...he nearly won a major... federer wont win 1 past 35..so the opportunity is there if tiger lives that long, or his knees hold up..to tack a major or 2 on after federer retires... this is a good damn list though..im looking to take 1 off and cant...the 1 difference is...ryan, howe, moyer werent given exemptions because of past titles won.. just having that allows you to grab as a friend as a caddy and go for it...see if you stir something up on thursday.. side note...that soderling guy that beat nadal and people imediately labled as a nobody won this weekend... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted July 21, 2009 and droppin the focking gloves, mind you..... but Im not 1 saying that golf is the only sport where u can win a major while taking a wilford brimley kit and driving a buick.... but my point was helped by watson this weekend....hes 59 and has a replacement hip...he nearly won a major... federer wont win 1 past 35..so the opportunity is there if tiger lives that long, or his knees hold up..to tack a major or 2 on after federer retires... this is a good damn list though..im looking to take 1 off and cant...the 1 difference is...ryan, howe, moyer werent given exemptions because of past titles won.. just having that allows you to grab as a friend as a caddy and go for it...see if you stir something up on thursday.. side note...that soderling guy that beat nadal and people imediately labled as a nobody won this weekend... Soderling won what? And against who? Funny how Tiger won the Memorial and its called some nothing tournament. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,580 Posted July 21, 2009 Interesting enough, they were trying on local radio today to come up with comparable things to a 59 year old making the final group and coming close to winning the Open. Some nice examples from sports that many would agree are even more physically grueling than golf...and would compare to even...gulp...tennis. Gordie Howe played hockey til he was 51 years old...and played in all 80 games for Hartford in 1979. Hell, Jaime Moyer is still pitching and he is 47. George Forman was 45 when he again won a heavyweight title by KO. Connors made the semi finals at the US Open when he was 39. Nolan Ryan was throwing no-hitters in his 40s. There are examples like this all over the place...yet, some here think Golf is the only sport where older guys can compete. Yes, you can compete a little bit longer...but some of the greats in other sports continued playing and playing well to their 40s and Howe in his 50s was still playing freaking hockey. 39 is comparable to 59? i'm a few years from 39, i am 20+ years from 59. give me a focking break. alsonolanryandidsteroidslikeclemens Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMoney 0 Posted July 21, 2009 Soderling won what?And against who? Funny how Tiger won the Memorial and its called some nothing tournament. swedish open..4th title..and just because you are clueless about it, doesnt mean it wasnt something..hes won as many tournies lately as tiger has...... i never said the memorial was a nothing tourney...all ive ever said was todays golfers are overall weak compared to the era before... heck..a guy from that era nearly won this week....and now hes in the top 100s..doesnt take much to move up on golf rankings... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted July 21, 2009 39 is comparable to 59? i'm a few years from 39, i am 20+ years from 59. give me a focking break. alsonolanryandidsteroidslikeclemens Id say its pretty focking impressive that a 39 year old could play tennis at that level. Again, nobody has ever argued that golf is more physically demanding than tennis. And Watson also knows there is no way he even competes anywhere other than an Open. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted July 21, 2009 swedish open..4th title..and just because you are clueless about it, doesnt mean it wasnt something..hes won as many tournies lately as tiger has...... i never said the memorial was a nothing tourney...all ive ever said was todays golfers are overall weak compared to the era before... heck..a guy from that era nearly won this week....and now hes in the top 100s..doesnt take much to move up on golf rankings... The memorial thing was not a shot at you...it was a shot at newbie. And todays tennis players are equally as weak IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
