MDC 7,405 Posted April 25, 2007 The same people here consistently have trouble with the concept of "free speech." Free speech does not guarantee you immunity from criticism or consequences by your employer. Nobody has a right to make fun of ethnic stereotypes on the radio and not be suspended. And you can thank Michael Powell and the Christianist wing of the GOP for their ridiculous hypersensitivity to anything "offensive" on the radio, TV or Interwebs. Complain all you want about knee-jerk liberals - and a lot of them could lighten up - but the Republican party is far more responsible for cracking down on what you can and cannot say on the airwaves. Once again, it amazes me that a bunch of people who defend the government's right to imprison and torture US citizens indefinitely without even charging them with a crime will cry about losing their "right" to listen to shock jocks make racial slurs on the radio. If that's the biggest injustice you have to face I'd say you're living a pretty charmed life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JT 137 Posted April 25, 2007 Blazzing Saddles is one of the greatest movies ever made. By todays focked up standards being set by a small group of various bitter, humorless Americans, the script would have been rejected right away. How sad is that? Satire and jokes are not deserving the same scrutiny as a speech or regular dialogue. Never have been, up until suddenly now. It's comparing apples and avocados. Let me ask this, and maybe I'm missing it. Where was the joke in what Imus said? Or these unfunny nitwits calling a Chinese restaurant? That's where the line gets blurred. I agree that in the broadest forms of satire, like Blazing Saddles, I don't see how anyone has a beef. But we've become a place where you can say incredibly hateful things, in Imus' case about a small and specific group of people, and when called on ity say 'it was just a joke'. I haven't spent a lot of time overseas, or watching their tv/movies., but it has always seemed to me that they focus on universal topics, like sexuality, and less on race and ethnicity. IMO, we've become a mean-spirited country. What Rosanne Barr, of all people, coined the 'Stern-ing of America' some 15 years ago, is unfolding right before our eyes. People cloak hatred under the guise of humor, intending to offend or so dismissive of the rights of others that they simply don't care. I spent about 15 years on morning radio, and it's pretty damn hard to fill that time with worthwhile stuff. I got called on things that I said; some that I thought were warranted, others I strongly disagreed with. But it gets meaner and meaner, and more and more targeted, delivered by people with less and less talent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted April 25, 2007 The same people here consistently have trouble with the concept of "free speech." Free speech does not guarantee you immunity from criticism or consequences by your employer. Nobody has a right to make fun of ethnic stereotypes on the radio and not be suspended. And you can thank Michael Powell and the Christianist wing of the GOP for their ridiculous hypersensitivity to anything "offensive" on the radio, TV or Interwebs. Complain all you want about knee-jerk liberals - and a lot of them could lighten up - but the Republican party is far more responsible for cracking down on what you can and cannot say on the airwaves. Once again, it amazes me that a bunch of people who defend the government's right to imprison and torture US citizens indefinitely without even charging them with a crime will cry about losing their "right" to listen to shock jocks make racial slurs on the radio. If that's the biggest injustice you have to face I'd say you're living a pretty charmed life. Try to stay on topic, please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted April 25, 2007 The same people here consistently have trouble with the concept of "free speech." Free speech does not guarantee you immunity from criticism or consequences by your employer. Nobody has a right to make fun of ethnic stereotypes on the radio and not be suspended. And you can thank Michael Powell and the Christianist wing of the GOP for their ridiculous hypersensitivity to anything "offensive" on the radio, TV or Interwebs. Complain all you want about knee-jerk liberals - and a lot of them could lighten up - but the Republican party is far more responsible for cracking down on what you can and cannot say on the airwaves. Once again, it amazes me that a bunch of people who defend the government's right to imprison and torture US citizens indefinitely without even charging them with a crime will cry about losing their "right" to listen to shock jocks make racial slurs on the radio. If that's the biggest injustice you have to face I'd say you're living a pretty charmed life. I know how you love to blame the Christian Right for everything under the sun, but they are not involved in this latest wave to remove "offensive" material from the airwaves, don't act stupid. I understand that it's not a govt' issue, the govt' has nothing to do with it. It's a small group of minority douches trying to exert their will on the masses, and the guilty white guys that control the media are bowing down to them, it's pathetic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,405 Posted April 25, 2007 I know you love to blame the Christian Right for everything under the sun, but they are not involved in this latest wave to remove "offensive" material from the airwaves, don't act stupid. I understand that it's not a govt' issue, the govt' has nothing to do with it. It's a small group of minority douches trying to exert their will on the masses, and the guilty white guys that control the media are bowing down to them, it's pathetic. The Christian Right was involved in the FCC's ludicrous overreaction after "Nipplegate" and they're also responsible for your Justice Department making a crackdown on online porn a priority on par with anti-terrorism. Either way, this isn't a free speech issue and the sun will still come up tomorrow even if you can't say "flied lice" on the airwaves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted April 25, 2007 Let me ask this, and maybe I'm missing it. Where was the joke in what Imus said? Or these unfunny nitwits calling a Chinese restaurant? That's where the line gets blurred. I agree that in the broadest forms of satire, like Blazing Saddles, I don't see how anyone has a beef. But we've become a place where you can say incredibly hateful things, in Imus' case about a small and specific group of people, and when called on ity say 'it was just a joke'. I haven't spent a lot of time overseas, or watching their tv/movies., but it has always seemed to me that they focus on universal topics, like sexuality, and less on race and ethnicity. IMO, we've become a mean-spirited country. What Rosanne Barr, of all people, coined the 'Stern-ing of America' some 15 years ago, is unfolding right before our eyes. People cloak hatred under the guise of humor, intending to offend or so dismissive of the rights of others that they simply don't care. I spent about 15 years on morning radio, and it's pretty damn hard to fill that time with worthwhile stuff. I got called on things that I said; some that I thought were warranted, others I strongly disagreed with. But it gets meaner and meaner, and more and more targeted, delivered by people with less and less talent. Do you actually think Imus was trying to be hateful when he said what he said? Or that JV and Elvis are trying to hurt Asians? Or that Richard Pryor or Chris Rock were showing their hatred of blacks all these years? What about Margret Cho or Dat Phan making fun of their Asian families, do they hate them? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted April 25, 2007 Let me ask this, and maybe I'm missing it. Where was the joke in what Imus said? Or these unfunny nitwits calling a Chinese restaurant? That's where the line gets blurred. I agree that in the broadest forms of satire, like Blazing Saddles, I don't see how anyone has a beef. But we've become a place where you can say incredibly hateful things, in Imus' case about a small and specific group of people, and when called on ity say 'it was just a joke'. I haven't spent a lot of time overseas, or watching their tv/movies., but it has always seemed to me that they focus on universal topics, like sexuality, and less on race and ethnicity. IMO, we've become a mean-spirited country. What Rosanne Barr, of all people, coined the 'Stern-ing of America' some 15 years ago, is unfolding right before our eyes. People cloak hatred under the guise of humor, intending to offend or so dismissive of the rights of others that they simply don't care. I spent about 15 years on morning radio, and it's pretty damn hard to fill that time with worthwhile stuff. I got called on things that I said; some that I thought were warranted, others I strongly disagreed with. But it gets meaner and meaner, and more and more targeted, delivered by people with less and less talent. I'm not saying I personally found it funny. But I still firmly believe that racism is about intent. Does anyone realize that one of the JV & Elvis hosts is married to a Korean woman, but he is labeled as anti-Asian? Does that make sense? Whether the prank call was funny or not doesn't matter, because the racist intent was not there. Intent, intent, intent. Should Imus have picked on those Rutgers women? Maybe, maybe not. Any athlete is subject to jeers from the crowd, so I would argue Imus had the right. Rutgers forgave Imus. The Rutgers coach got a book deal. The Rutgers team will make out very well financially from this situation. I like mean spirited humor. I like to be entertained by it. What one person may think is racist, or sexist, another finds harmless poking of fun of a stereotype. We are all different. Hyper sensitivity is for queers. Quick, someone suspend me. Where is line in the sand? Is all speech going to disappear from radio, and all stations will be Jack formats, computers playing random records. Boring. From a selfish point of view, I'm pissed off because it's just a matter of time before Opie & Anthony and Kidd Chris are yanked off the air by the pussies at CBS radio. And those shows are a great help for me to pass my time at work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted April 25, 2007 The Christian Right was involved in the FCC's ludicrous overreaction after "Nipplegate" and they're also responsible for your Justice Department making a crackdown on online porn a priority on par with anti-terrorism. Either way, this isn't a free speech issue and the sun will still come up tomorrow even if you can't say "flied lice" on the airwaves. The nipple thing was an FCC violation. I agree with you it was an overreaction, but it was a violation. What Imus or JV and Elvis said was not a FCC violation, someone got offended, so know we all must bow down and try not to offend people. It's disgusting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,405 Posted April 25, 2007 The nipple thing was an FCC violation. I agree with you it was an overreaction, but it was a violation. What Imus or JV and Elvis said was not a FCC violation, someone got offended, so know we all must bow down and try not to offend people. It's disgusting. The radio station could just tell these outraged people to fock off. They don't "have" to bow down to anyone, if they're willing to take the potential heat from their sponsors. This is not a free speech issue. You're basically complaining that DJs don't have the right to say whatever they want without facing any consequences. This is a non-issue and it's not worth half the angst you and phillybear are spending on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted April 25, 2007 The radio station could just tell these outraged people to fock off. They don't "have" to bow down to anyone, if they're willing to take the potential heat from their sponsors. This is not a free speech issue. You're basically complaining that DJs don't have the right to say whatever they want without facing any consequences. This is a non-issue and it's not worth half the angst you and phillybear are spending on it. Sure, the radio station could but they won't, because they are cowards, so are the sponsors. People cower over fear of being labeled racist, and all it takes is some douche minority to claim that they are offended and society now will appease them to any extent. yes, I'm basically saying that not just DJ's, but people should have the right to say whatever they want without losing their jobs over people being "offended", the nerve of me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rybo5 0 Posted April 25, 2007 All this being offended crap is getting extremely tiresome. Maybe if we weren't stressing out over whether or not some radio guy or cartoon or whatever says something derogatory, we'd be leading much happier lives. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted April 25, 2007 All this being offended crap is getting extremely tiresome. Maybe if we weren't stressing out over whether or not some radio guy or cartoon or whatever says something derogatory, we'd be leading much happier lives. exactly, and if people would stop trying to find things that offend them and make big deals out of it, they could focus on the real problems. Maybe if blacks stopped trying to play the victim and blame words said by white people for why they can't acheive, they could solve their real issues. If we could accept our differences instead of trying to pretend we're all the same, maybe we could get along better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,405 Posted April 25, 2007 Sure, the radio station could but they won't, because they are cowards, so are the sponsors. People cower over fear of being labeled racist, and all it takes is some douche minority to claim that they are offended and society now will appease them to any extent. yes, I'm basically saying that not just DJ's, but people should have the right to say whatever they want without losing their jobs over people being "offended", the nerve of me. Is it possible the radio station does not approve of racial slurs and disciplined its DJs because they thought it was the right thing to do? This may come as a shock to you, but some people might not think making fun of the way white people dance or saying "flied lice" is comedy gold. I know, it was hysterical on Russell Simmons Def Comedy Jam but that was about 20 years ago and the world has changed a little. Jokes about Bill Clinton eating cheeseburgers have sort of lost their punch too, FYI. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted April 25, 2007 The radio station could just tell these outraged people to fock off. They don't "have" to bow down to anyone, if they're willing to take the potential heat from their sponsors. This is not a free speech issue. You're basically complaining that DJs don't have the right to say whatever they want without facing any consequences. This is a non-issue and it's not worth half the angst you and phillybear are spending on it. For years, radio stations did indeed tell people to fock off. But not lately. Lawsuits are a part of it. But so many various people now adays get offended by everything....sigh. It's an issue because it is the tip of the iceberg. We are already seeing rap executives calling for banning words in lyrics now. Towns are trying to pass laws banning the use of certain words. We will continue to see this kind of stuff until it's either too late, or enough people get pissed off by what is happening. This is stuff that is the norm in third world countries, not a free society like in this country. Sadly, the radical right and liberal left are both guilty of dropping the ball on this issue over the years. And where the fock is the ACLU? Bunch of useless creeps. Picking and choosing their issues. Fockers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleDog 996 Posted April 25, 2007 exactly, and if people would stop trying to find things that offend them and make big deals out of it, they could focus on the real problems. Maybe if blacks stopped trying to play the victim and blame words said by white people for why they can't acheive, they could solve their real issues. If we could accept our differences instead of trying to pretend we're all the same, maybe we could get along better. A tad overdramatic, no? And where the fock is the ACLU? Bunch of useless creeps. Picking and choosing their issues. Fockers. Imus's civil rights weren't violated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted April 25, 2007 Imus's civil rights weren't violated. Maybe. Maybe not. But I do enjoy calling the ACLU useless creeps, and will try to do so every chance I get. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,405 Posted April 25, 2007 For years, radio stations did indeed tell people to fock off. But not lately. Lawsuits are a part of it. But so many various people now adays get offended by everything....sigh. It's an issue because it is the tip of the iceberg. We are already seeing rap executives calling for banning words in lyrics now. Towns are trying to pass laws banning the use of certain words. We will continue to see this kind of stuff until it's either too late, or enough people get pissed off by what is happening. This is stuff that is the norm in third world countries, not a free society like in this country. Sadly, the radical right and liberal left are both guilty of dropping the ball on this issue over the years. And where the fock is the ACLU? Bunch of useless creeps. Picking and choosing their issues. Fockers. I'd agree that towns passing laws banning the use of certain words is a civil liberties issue and it's worth getting upset about. Radio stations voluntarily disciplining their own DJs for making unfunny ethnic jokes is not. Like Gobbledog said, the ACLU isn't involved because it's not a civil liberties issue. I can't believe the amount of mental energy some white guys spend pining for the good old days when bigots could say whatever they want and nobody was offended ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeshushu 51 Posted April 25, 2007 I miss those old Cheech and Chong comedy records. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dcOne 2 Posted April 25, 2007 It's a mother focking witch hunt. This country should be ashamed of itself giving hate organizations power to destroy satire/comedy. Humor is being taken away, slow but surely. Rap is currently in the process of being censored too. Wheee. The wheel keeps spinning. It's called the "Pussification of America"--where everything is to be fair, equal and politically correct. The more the USA pushes for those things, the more crazy sh!t happens----school shootings, etc. It's almost like a portion society is subconsciously rebelling against "fair, equal & politcally correct". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
football_scooter 0 Posted April 25, 2007 Wouldn't it be more beneficial if, as a society, we stopped resorting to racial and ethnic stereotypes as 'humor'? African-American culture included. Just seems to me too many are using this debate to attack the reaction of the target, rather than the thinly-veiled hatred and racism of the ones making the jokes. For too long, too many on all sides of this have used the excuse 'but I'm not a racist'; just like the person that says 'I don't mean to interrupt' is about to do so, and 'no offense' means I'm going to say something offensive. That would be quaint, except black comedians employ racial stereotype about their own people more than anyone else. Richard Prior, Red Foxx, In Living Color, etc. You can't have this utopia you describe without eliminating the double standard. So long as blacks make fun of themselves, with that same free speech anyone else can too. Sorry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleDog 996 Posted April 25, 2007 So long as blacks make fun of themselves, with that same free speech anyone else can too. Sorry. Imus gave up some of his free speach rights when CBS hired him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted April 25, 2007 I'd agree that towns passing laws banning the use of certain words is a civil liberties issue and it's worth getting upset about. Radio stations voluntarily disciplining their own DJs for making unfunny ethnic jokes is not. Like Gobbledog said, the ACLU isn't involved because it's not a civil liberties issue. I can't believe the amount of mental energy some white guys spend pining for the good old days when bigots could say whatever they want and nobody was offended ... Imus wasn't fired until Sharpton got involved, JV&Elvis weren't fired until the head of the Asian American whatever said he was offended. And they're not bigots dude, they're entertainers. Steve Harvey does a radio show where he has a segment about "White news", where he makes fun of middle America. Should he be fired for this too? You would have a point if the head of the KKK did a serious show about how we need to keep the white race clean, but this is not the case. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,405 Posted April 25, 2007 Imus wasn't fired until Sharpton got involved, JV&Elvis weren't fired until the head of the Asian American whatever said he was offended. And they're not bigots dude, they're entertainers. Steve Harvey does a radio show where he has a segment about "White news", where he makes fun of middle America. Should he be fired for this too? You would have a point if the head of the KKK did a serious show about how we need to keep the white race clean, but this is not the case. Radio stations don't have to buckle under pressure. They make calculated business decisions - if Imus is still a huge draw and his comments don't hurt their bottom line, they can tell Sharpton to fock off. The station was worried that its sponsors would start pulling ads and that is why Imus got the chitcan, end of story. Nobody has a right to say things that financial hurt their employer and not face the music for it. I don't have a problem with racial humor but I think there's a point where it's a fine line between making fun of racial stereotypes and encouraging them. Lenny Bruce used a lot of racial humor and by many accounts he was a racist. Assuming he was just joking, I think a guy like Imus still runs the risk of encouraging real bigots like phillybear. It's a fine line, I don't know exactly when it stops being funny, but I'm not going to bemoan the loss of 3rd rate racial humor on a show I never listened to anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Franknbeans 46 Posted April 25, 2007 It's called the "Pussification of America"--where everything is to be fair, equal and politically correct. The more the USA pushes for those things, the more crazy sh!t happens----school shootings, etc. It's almost like a portion society is subconsciously rebelling against "fair, equal & politcally correct". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted April 25, 2007 Radio stations don't have to buckle under pressure. They make calculated business decisions - if Imus is still a huge draw and his comments don't hurt their bottom line, they can tell Sharpton to fock off. The station was worried that its sponsors would start pulling ads and that is why Imus got the chitcan, end of story. Nobody has a right to say things that financial hurt their employer and not face the music for it. There were CBS as well as MSNBC black employees and execs that were demanding that Imus be fired. The problem is they didn't say this the day the comments were made. They demanded this days later after the weekend media avalanche, along with a few sponsors threatening to pull. CBS was given no choice because this mole hill was made a mountain by Sharpton and the media. Imus has said things 10 times worse than "nappy headed ho's" for years without any repercussion from CBS. It wasn't until the media blitz was their hand forced in the matter. Don't fool yourself into thinking that CBS voluntarily cut ties with Don Imus. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted April 25, 2007 I think a guy like Imus still runs the risk of encouraging real bigots like phillybear. I hope you drown in a puddle of AIDS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted April 25, 2007 Radio stations don't have to buckle under pressure. They make calculated business decisions - if Imus is still a huge draw and his comments don't hurt their bottom line, they can tell Sharpton to fock off. The station was worried that its sponsors would start pulling ads and that is why Imus got the chitcan, end of story. Nobody has a right to say things that financial hurt their employer and not face the music for it. I don't have a problem with racial humor but I think there's a point where it's a fine line between making fun of racial stereotypes and encouraging them. Lenny Bruce used a lot of racial humor and by many accounts he was a racist. Assuming he was just joking, I think a guy like Imus still runs the risk of encouraging real bigots like phillybear. It's a fine line, I don't know exactly when it stops being funny, but I'm not going to bemoan the loss of 3rd rate racial humor on a show I never listened to anyway. The sponsors pulled out because of pressure put on by Sharpton and the media. Imus was still a huge draw but CBS pusssied out. So how do you encourage racial stereotypes? They are what they are. Imus was joking, he's not a racist like Sharpton and the media made him out to be. You never listened to Imus, but I'm sure there is some form of entertainment out there that is now on the radar screen to be ruled offensive and removed from our culture, that's the trend, and it's dopes like you that are allowing it to happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,405 Posted April 25, 2007 The sponsors pulled out because of pressure put on by Sharpton and the media. Imus was still a huge draw but CBS pusssied out. So how do you encourage racial stereotypes? They are what they are. Imus was joking, he's not a racist like Sharpton and the media made him out to be. You never listened to Imus, but I'm sure there is some form of entertainment out there that is now on the radar screen to be ruled offensive and removed from our culture, that's the trend, and it's dopes like you that are allowing it to happen. So get angry at CBS for poosaying out. They could've told Sharpton to fock off but they didn't. Blame it on them. Sharpton et al. have a right to be offended and CBS has every right to tell him to go fock himself. I don't know whether Imus is a racist but I think guys like him give cover to people who really are bigots. There is a difference IMO between comedy that makes fun of racism and comedy that just is racist. It's the difference between Borat and Imus. Do I really give a fock if Imus is removed from the air? He wasn't funny and he only appealed to mouth-breathing idiots and average frustrated chumps like you and phillybear, anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted April 25, 2007 So get angry at CBS for poosaying out. They could've told Sharpton to fock off but they didn't. Blame it on them. Sharpton et al. have a right to be offended and CBS has every right to tell him to go fock himself. I don't know whether Imus is a racist but I think guys like him give cover to people who really are bigots. There is a difference IMO between comedy that makes fun of racism and comedy that just is racist. It's the difference between Borat and Imus. Do I really give a fock if Imus is removed from the air? He wasn't funny and he only appealed to mouth-breathing idiots and average frustrated chumps like you and phillybear, anyway. I am angry at CBS for pusssying out, I already posted that, stupid. I also blame Sharpton for making this non issue the biggest issue in America, and for being a hypocrite during it all. Imus is not a racist, his comedy is not racist, you never listened to him so you wouldn't know. As far as Imus appealing to mouth breathing idiots, his show was mainly political and he had some of the best minds in the world on as guests, wrong again douchey. I stopped listening to him several years ago anyway, so I don't care that I can't listen to him anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted April 25, 2007 So get angry at CBS for poosaying out. They could've told Sharpton to fock off but they didn't. Blame it on them. Sharpton et al. have a right to be offended and CBS has every right to tell him to go fock himself. I don't know whether Imus is a racist but I think guys like him give cover to people who really are bigots. There is a difference IMO between comedy that makes fun of racism and comedy that just is racist. It's the difference between Borat and Imus. Do I really give a fock if Imus is removed from the air? He wasn't funny and he only appealed to mouth-breathing idiots and average frustrated chumps like you and phillybear, anyway. For fock's sake, you are stupid. I have said many times in numerous threads that I don't find Imus funny, I am not fan, but I defend his right to make lame jokes. I am still confused by the bigot comment. I say a lot of things on this site that can be considered offensive. Fine. However, I tend to steer clear of being offensive about two subjects: race and religion. If you can find any post of mine that breaks this personal rule, so be it. Maybe I fell off the wagon somewhere along the way and was facetious. But I doubt you'll have much luck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,405 Posted April 25, 2007 For fock's sake, you are stupid. I have said many times in numerous threads that I don't find Imus funny, I am not fan, but I defend his right to make lame jokes. I am still confused by the bigot comment. I say a lot of things on this site that can be considered offensive. Fine. However, I tend to steer clear of being offensive about two subjects: race and religion. If you can find any post of mine that breaks this personal rule, so be it. Maybe I fell off the wagon somewhere along the way and was facetious. But I doubt you'll have much luck. I'm just giving you a hard time. I don't really think you're racist. I do think you spend a lot of time complaining about racial issues though. I'll never understand why that kind of thing makes some white males so angry. Who cares? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Angry White Male 0 Posted April 25, 2007 I'm just giving you a hard time. I don't really think you're racist. I do think you spend a lot of time complaining about racial issues though. I'll never understand why that kind of thing makes some white males so angry. Who cares? We're being OPPRESSED!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted April 25, 2007 I'm just giving you a hard time. I don't really think you're racist. I do think you spend a lot of time complaining about racial issues though. I'll never understand why that kind of thing makes some white males so angry. Who cares? Dammit. My urge to strangle you with a shoelace and to eat your liver is subsiding a bit....for now.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
football_scooter 0 Posted April 25, 2007 We're being OPPRESSED!!! Alias alert! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites