"the American people did not vote for failure"

[fastfish 0]

            Bush stood firm Tuesday against any measure that would set a timetable for withdrawal. 'They chose to make a political statement,' he said. 'That's their right, but it is wrong for our troops and it's wrong for our country. To accept the bill proposed by the Democratic leadership would be to accept a policy that directly contradicts the judgment of our military commanders......Yesterday, Democratic leaders announced that they planned to send me a bill that will fund our troops only if we agree to handcuff our generals, add billions of dollars of unrelated spending and begin to pull out of Iraq by an arbitrary date,' Bush said on the South Lawn. He said the bill would mandate the withdrawal of troops despite the fact that the top U.S. commander in Iraq, Gen. David Petraeus, has not yet received all the reinforcements he has said he needs to secure Baghdad and the troubled Anbar Province. Democrats have argued that the election that left them in control of Congress was a referendum for a change of strategy in Iraq. Bush used the same election results to argue his point. 'The American people did not vote for failure,' he said. 'That is precisely what the Democratic leadership's bill would guarantee.' http://interestalert.com/story/04240002aaa...S/politics.html

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Why would this be bad politics when polls show a clear majority of Americans want a timetable for withdrawal?

[wiffleball 4,797]

The chickenhawks have yet to be able to 'splain this one to me:

 

GWB said that the Iraqis would control all of Iraq by November '07. Mission Accomplished. The Demlibs are giving him a 10 month extension beyond that. WTF???

 

"George can make random timelines, but if a Demlib does it, that's BAD, BAD I tell you."

[fastfish 0]

real leadership does not make decisions on national defense based on polls...the only poll that counts is the one that was taken in November 2004 when the American people gave their president 4 more years as Commander in Chief.

[Cyber Gandalf 0]

We didn't vote for failure? YOU'RE A FAILURE, YOU CHICKENHAWK!

[wiffleball 4,797]

Real leadership isn't too chickenshiit to call a spade a spade. Real leadership doesn't let 1,000 more Americans die on the sidelines of a civil war just so he can make the NEXT President make the call to leave.

 

Talk about Chickenshiit - that's exactly what he's doing. Just killing time until the next guy takes over. That way GWB (& FF) can spend the rest of his days talking about how if he JUST had one more term...

 

Really is pretty shiity. Word in Washington is that Cheney already knows it's a flop - and Bush is mighty pixxed at that. I don't care what your politics are. You're focking approval rating is lower than Nixon's - what do you have to lose? - Man up, declare "mission accomplished" again, pull out and save some lives.

 

...Like we're going to get Sunnis and Shias who've been killing each other for centuries to join hands and sing "kumbuya" because we added another 20,000 troops to a country the size of California for a year. Brilliant - But hey, right about the time 'the suge' is supposed to be over? - Coincidentally, GWB's outta here. Hmmm...... Chickenshiit. Letting men die so you can save a few points in your poll numbers.

[kozmiq 70]

Wreckless? Did you say wreckless?

I think going to war for a reason that was incorrect is wreckless.

Then trying to blame someone else for pointing it out! Geeze!

 

It's kind of like throwing your child down a well thinking it was a devil then finding it out it's not and

BLAMING YOUR NEIGHBOR FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO GET THE CHILD OUT!

 

You freaking republicans should just STFU. Seriously. Seriously!

[Boz/BoFan 0]

Real leadership isn't too chickenshiit to call a spade a spade. Real leadership doesn't let 1,000 more Americans die on the sidelines of a civil war just so he can make the NEXT President make the call to leave.

 

Talk about Chickenshiit - that's exactly what he's doing. Just killing time until the next guy takes over. That way GWB (& FF) can spend the rest of his days talking about how if he JUST had one more term...

 

Really is pretty shiity. Word in Washington is that Cheney already knows it's a flop - and Bush is mighty pixxed at that. I don't care what your politics are. You're focking approval rating is lower than Nixon's - what do you have to lose? - Man up, declare "mission accomplished" again, pull out and save some lives.

 

...Like we're going to get Sunnis and Shias who've been killing each other for centuries to join hands and sing "kumbuya" because we added another 20,000 troops to a country the size of California for a year. Brilliant - But hey, right about the time 'the suge' is supposed to be over? - Coincidentally, GWB's outta here. Hmmm...... Chickenshiit. Letting men die so you can save a few points in your poll numbers.

So, in your little world its more chickenshiit to stay and fight despite the majority of Demphucks calling for withdrawl only for the purposes of getting into the White House in 08. Thats a new level of liberal psychosis. To stay and fight, to win possibly the most ambitious undertaking in the history of man...the war on terror......is chickenshiit??? Only in your phucked up little world man, only from the mind of a brainwashed sheep liberal.

[Guest Davaco]

invading was reckless as well.

 

is it just me, or is the war over?

 

invade- check

conquer - check

disarm country - check

remove saddam - check

establish new gov.- check

 

all thats left is to leave.

 

let Iraq decide which type of government is best for its people. 15+ years from now, if Iraquis elect a leader that isnt pro-west, what are we gonna do, re-take it?

 

let freedom ring

[IGotWorms 4,063]

So, in your little world its more chickenshiit to stay and fight despite the majority of Demphucks calling for withdrawl only for the purposes of getting into the White House in 08. Thats a new level of liberal psychosis. To stay and fight, to win possibly the most ambitious undertaking in the history of man...the war on terror......is chickenshiit??? Only in your phucked up little world man, only from the mind of a brainwashed sheep liberal.

 

 

Please.

[Boz/BoFan 0]

 

Please.

 

We knew who the Nazi's were, they wore uniforms and fought together....as with the Japs, the Vietnamese etc etc. Now we are up against a GLOBAL perversion of a religion that has 1.2 BILLION members of which we dont know who is with or against us, they are desperately struggling to get Nukes, and our military strikes have to have absolute precision every single time or we lose 100% of our support. Every single one we fight is equivalent to a Kamikaze who has no value for his own life or anyone elses including women and children.

 

You're right, this should be a breeze.

[IGotWorms 4,063]

We knew who the Nazi's were, they wore uniforms and fought together....as with the Japs, the Vietnamese etc etc. Now we are up against a GLOBAL perversion of a religion that has 1.2 BILLION members of which we dont know who is with or against us, they are desperately struggling to get Nukes, and our military strikes have to have absolute precision every single time or we lose 100% of our support. Every single one we fight is equivalent to a Kamikaze who has no value for his own life or anyone elses including women and children.

 

Your right, this should be a breeze.

 

Exaggerate much?

[Boz/BoFan 0]

Exaggerate much?

 

Your right, the war on terror is exlusive to an apartment building in Queens, against a very small band of Canadians with zero religious affiliations, who at NO TIME would even consider a bomb or taking their own life and fight with a very strict adherence to the Geneva convention, and we know exactly who they are.

 

Thats probably about how you see it, right?

[Mrsteak21 0]

            Bush stood firm Tuesday against any measure that would set a timetable for withdrawal. 'They chose to make a political statement,' he said. 'That's their right, but it is wrong for our troops and it's wrong for our country. To accept the bill proposed by the Democratic leadership would be to accept a policy that directly contradicts the judgment of our military commanders......Yesterday, Democratic leaders announced that they planned to send me a bill that will fund our troops only if we agree to handcuff our generals, add billions of dollars of unrelated spending and begin to pull out of Iraq by an arbitrary date,' Bush said on the South Lawn. He said the bill would mandate the withdrawal of troops despite the fact that the top U.S. commander in Iraq, Gen. David Petraeus, has not yet received all the reinforcements he has said he needs to secure Baghdad and the troubled Anbar Province. Democrats have argued that the election that left them in control of Congress was a referendum for a change of strategy in Iraq. Bush used the same election results to argue his point. 'The American people did not vote for failure,' he said. 'That is precisely what the Democratic leadership's bill would guarantee.' http://interestalert.com/story/04240002aaa...S/politics.html

 

Please stop posting, you are an idiot. If President Bush told you the right thing to do was for you to jump off a bridge would you do it??? Dont answer, i already know.

[wiffleball 4,797]

Please stop posting, you are an idiot. If President Bush told you the right thing to do was for you to jump off a bridge would you do it??? Dont answer, i already know.

 

No you don't. He wouldn't. BUT, FF WOULD exhort everyone ELSE who didn't jump off a bridge to see the light and stop being unpatriotic cowardly liberals.

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Your right, the war on terror is exlusive to an apartment building in Queens, against a very small band of Canadians with zero religious affiliations, who at NO TIME would even consider a bomb or taking their own life and fight with a very strict adherence to the Geneva convention, and we know exactly who they are.

 

Thats probably about how you see it, right?

ya got to go a tad easy on these types Boz...thinking thru the issue is not what libs do. It's all emotion with them. For instance, has any Dem offered a policy statement on what we can expect in Iraq, Iran and the entire Middle East should we follow their sage advice and quit the fight? NO...and no silly lib here has a clue either. But world history does have an answer: agressors smell weakness like a shark smells blood....and the jihadists will not become sheep farmers once we surrender. Only children and liberals believe otherwise.

[wiffleball 4,797]

The chickenhawks have yet to be able to 'splain this one to me:

 

GWB said that the Iraqis would control all of Iraq by November '07. Mission Accomplished. The Demlibs are giving him a 10 month extension beyond that. WTF???

 

"George can make random timelines, but if a Demlib does it, that's BAD, BAD I tell you."

 

 

...and again, {crickets} for the 20th time from FF. All rhetoric. No thought. Gee, sounds a lot like Bozo - without the ability to indent.

[fastfish 0]

ya got to go a tad easy on these types Boz...thinking thru the issue is not what libs do. It's all emotion with them. For instance, has any Dem offered a policy statement on what we can expect in Iraq, Iran and the entire Middle East should we follow their sage advice and quit the fight? NO...and no silly lib here has a clue either. But world history does have an answer: agressors smell weakness like a shark smells blood....and the jihadists will not become sheep farmers once we surrender. Only children and liberals believe otherwise.

ok sniffingballs...you can't quote yourself in order to get the last word. I'm not saying libs are bad....they can be in charge of Nursing Homes and join the Peace Corp....but for the love of god keep libs away from national defense. I'm too old to learn Arabic and my wife will NOT be my slave no matter what the Koran says.

[wiffleball 4,797]

...and AGAIN, {crickets} for the 21st time from FF. All rhetoric. No thought.

 

[Boz/BoFan 0]

 

Your thought is so original that its broadcast in all its fury on a dork forum made up of 12 actual posters at best. Ive never seen someone suck his own cack for zero reason as hard as you wifflebich. Your not even a sidewalk interview for a 1500 person Ju-Co student newspaper. You're a scared little girl who copies and pastes moveon.org propaganda and a mouth piece for code pink. You're nothing new, you are every other middle class white kid fooled by Che Guavera T-shirts and iron deficient lib out there.

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Your thought is so original that its broadcast in all its fury on a dork forum made up of 12 actual posters at best. Ive never seen someone suck his own cack for zero reason as hard as you wifflebich. Your not even a sidewalk interview for a 1500 person Ju-Co student newspaper. You're a scared little girl who copies and pastes moveon.org propaganda and a mouth piece for code pink. You're nothing new, you are every other middle class white kid fooled by Che Guavera T-shirts and iron deficient lib out there.

that is some very funny sh!t....no wonder sniffinballs hates you. Keep thinking free. Lib media has brainwashed so many it's fresh air to know ALL are not sheep.

[Mrsteak21 0]

ok sniffingballs...you can't quote yourself in order to get the last word. I'm not saying libs are bad....they can be in charge of Nursing Homes and join the Peace Corp....but for the love of god keep libs away from national defense. I'm too old to learn Arabic and my wife will NOT be my slave no matter what the Koran says.

 

So the muslims are going to invade the USA now? Man do you jump around....i bet they will use their airforce to bomb us.... oh wait they dont have one, how about their navy to sail to the USA and get us that way??? Nope, they dont have crap on that either. Oh i got it, they will ride on the backs of whales brandishing AK47's and that will do it. Man watch out for that invasion. I bet they really get us good.

 

Please do not try to justify the occupation of Iraq with protecting our freedoms (speaking Arabic and wearing head scarfs). I have come to the conclusion that you will support this occupation no matter what happens. You are lost and are an absolute moron. Your stupidity is endless. Please quit, please.....

[Boz/BoFan 0]

So the muslims are going to invade the USA now? Man do you jump around....i bet they will use their airforce to bomb us.... oh wait they dont have one, how about their navy to sail to the USA and get us that way??? Nope, they dont have crap on that either. Oh i got it, they will ride on the backs of whales brandishing AK47's and that will do it. Man watch out for that invasion. I bet they really get us good.

 

Please do not try to justify the occupation of Iraq with protecting our freedoms (speaking Arabic and wearing head scarfs). I have come to the conclusion that you will support this occupation no matter what happens. You are lost and are an absolute moron. Your stupidity is endless. Please quit, please.....

 

I know, like any Islamo-Fascist could penetrate our border fortresses and kill anyone, much less 3000 at a time. Jeez, when will the scaredy cat conservatives learn that terrorists are incapable of killing??? Its all lies, just like that man on the moon business and 9/11. The world needs more people like you Mrstreak, we will also be needing a shitload more sand.

[donhaas 19]

Only in your phucked up little world man, only from the mind of a brainwashed sheep liberal.

 

I love fat fock rednecks posting tough from their mom's basement.

 

Real men are dying in this focked up country's quagmire, chickenhawk.

 

Go grab another doughnut and stfu... Adults are talking...

 

[Boz/BoFan 0]

I love fat fock rednecks posting tough from their mom's basement.

 

Real men are dying in this focked up country's quagmire, chickenhawk.

 

Go grab another doughnut and stfu... Adults are talking...

 

 

Are you too stupid to realize the flagrant hypocrisy of your post? What a douche.

 

Why dont YOU enlist billy bad azz? I did. You are a male, of age, and would prolly make more coin in the military than you do now.........whats the hold up?

[donhaas 19]

Are you too stupid to realize the flagrant hypocrisy of your post? What a douche.

 

Why dont YOU enlist billy bad azz? I did. You are a male, of age, and would prolly make more coin in the military than you do now.........whats the hold up?

 

Why can't you enlist? The army takes fat people. They take borderline retards, too. They take rednecks. They take virgins. They take closet homos.

 

They take everything that you are and yet you sit and and every night from your mom's basement.

 

Classic chickensh!t hawk

 

Keep crying and masturbating to your Bo and Boz posters, chubs

[randandy 0]

can we all take a deep breath...

 

i wanna do something a little radical, lets all hold hands.

 

boz/bo, yes, your pants need to be on.

 

donhaas, yes we all see you, relax...quit focking with boz/bo...

 

dammit boz/bo! put your pants back on!

[gratefulted 14]

Are you too stupid to realize the flagrant hypocrisy of your post? What a douche.

 

Why dont YOU enlist billy bad azz?

Thats rich, you calling someone billy badass

[Boz/BoFan 0]

Why can't you enlist? The army takes fat people. They take borderline retards, too. They take rednecks. They take virgins. They take closet homos.

 

They take everything that you are and yet you sit and and every night from your mom's basement.

 

Classic chickensh!t hawk

 

Keep crying and masturbating to your Bo and Boz posters, chubs

 

Can you read, I was enlisted. Wow, what a tool.

 

can we all take a deep breath...

 

i wanna do something a little radical, lets all hold hands.

 

boz/bo, yes, your pants need to be on.

 

donhaas, yes we all see you, relax...quit focking with boz/bo...

 

dammit boz/bo! put your pants back on!

 

lol.

[donhaas 19]

Can you read, I was enlisted. Wow, what a tool.

 

Yeah, sure you were.

and you're not a fat fock, too.

[gratefulted 14]

Why can't you enlist? The army takes fat people. They take borderline retards, too. They take rednecks. They take virgins. They take closet homos.

 

They take everything that you are and yet you sit and and every night from your mom's basement.

 

Classic chickensh!t hawk

 

Keep crying and masturbating to your Bo and Boz posters, chubs

Careful donhaas, BozBoy is one toughass mofo, not only is he a disabled vet but he's also the most fit heman around these parts, capable of entering a triathalon, he also can whoop anybody with one hand tied behind his back!

 

He could also call you some even meaner names and insults if yer not careful!

[donhaas 19]

Careful donhaas, BozBoy is one toughass mofo, not only is he a disabled vet but he's also the most fit heman around these parts, capable of entering a triathalon, he also can whoop anybody with one hand tied behind his back!

 

He could also call you some even meaner names and insults if yer not careful!

 

Bo/Boz is actually one of my favorite FFToday chickenhawks.

Right behind surferskin

[lechuza 0]

put all the partisan rhetoric aside...

 

The continuation of the war is weakening our military, costing us a lot of lives, money, and i believe it is making us more vulnerable to attacks here as this occupation is only making more and more people hate us and we do not have the security force for our homeland security since so many are overseas.

 

like an earliers post pointed to, we have 'accomplished' what we set out to do. We took Saddam out of power, disarmed the country, helped them set up their government and now it is up to them to see if it fails or succeeds. Either way, the US should not have the amount of troops they have there anymore. Bush needs to listen to his own words when he said "mission accomplished"

[Boz/BoFan 0]

Careful donhaas, BozBoy is one toughass mofo, not only is he a disabled vet but he's also the most fit heman around these parts, capable of entering a triathalon, he also can whoop anybody with one hand tied behind his back!

 

He could also call you some even meaner names and insults if yer not careful!

 

Not disabled. Received a medical discharge, there is a difference. That red licorice acid at the Gaelic park show really fried you didnt it? You still droppin you pillar of society you?

[gratefulted 14]

Not disabled. Received a medical discharge

Would that be mental or Physical?

[Boz/BoFan 0]

Would that be mental or Physical?

 

Congenital heart defect that had never bothered me before in my life throughout a long history of athletics. I failed to disclose/lied about my medical history to get into the Army. I went into advanced infantry training and then paratrooper training and finally applied for and entered the final phase, Army Ranger training. I was VERY sleep deprived but felt physically well when we began the 5 mile run of the 1st phase. At about mile 4 i completely blacked out and did a digger face first into the asphalt. Woke up in the medic facility at Fort Benning where they had contacted my parents who informed them of my condition. Thats it, I was gone, and was VERY lucky to receive only a medical discharge. They were extremely pissed that I lied.

 

So, that would be physical.

[gratefulted 14]

Congenital heart defect that had never bothered me before in my life throughout a long history of athletics. I failed to disclose/lied about my medical history to get into the Army. I went into advanced infantry training and then paratrooper training and finally applied for and entered the final phase, Army Ranger training. I was VERY sleep deprived but felt physically well when we began the 5 mile run of the 1st phase. At about mile 4 i completely blacked out and did a digger face first into the asphalt. Woke up in the medic facility at Fort Benning where they had contacted my parents who informed them of my condition. Thats it, I was gone, and was VERY lucky to receive only a medical discharge. They were extremely pissed that I lied.

 

So, that would be physical.

I also did my basic & ranger training at Benning, Harmony Church to be exact, too bad you couldn't finish, I'd bet your views would be a tad different seeing your brothers (fellow rangers) die for a buisness deal.

[parrot 789]

I didn't mean to vote for failure, Bush just seemed like the best option at the time.

[wiffleball 4,797]

I didn't mean to vote for failure, Bush just seemed like the best option at the time.