Stay-at-home mother's work worth $138,095 a year

[Toro 1]

the salon software didn't work out? i thought that was a slam-dunk?

 

not being a smart-ass, actually curious as to what went wrong (being on my 2nd startup biz myself, 1st one went down in flames)

 

Imagine trying to sell a product, support it, provide training for the product for something that will be the life-blood for a business while you are out of town or on a plane 5 out of 7 days a week.

 

The product is still there. I just don't have the resources or time to be able to do it full time. But it's an almost impossible feat. I can't quit my job and put 100% into selling and supporting the product but at the same time, I can't be successful with the product without making a huge committment.

 

It was defintely a strategic point that I overlooked and underestimated. My product is good, but there are comparable products, some even better, that are providing a much better level of sales and service than I am.

 

That being said, I am actually looking into alternate pathways for success including selling the actual codebase to a large chain (i.e. Fantastic Sams, etc). They could take my codebase and extend it to meet their needs because I designed it to not only be able to service independent salons, but also a corporate type of business. Maybe even find a pathway to allow me to get my own contract to take my existing codebase and implement the software for them, tying it in to their existing sales/accounting systems.

 

I am not giving up. But I am putting it on the backburner. The opportunity (and experience gained) is still sitting there. The time will come.

[cday 0]

good luck. my first biz hit a similar wall.. we actually had a great product, but my 2 partners decided they didn't want to do any more work, so i got screwed during development, tech support, sales, and marketing. as well as trying to hold down my full-time job. didn't work.

 

2nd company is going much better, actually profitable now, though nothing i can quit my full-time job over. but it's a ton of fun, and i'm getting to meet a lot of people through it. probably had to fall on my face first before learning how to walk.

[Toro 1]

good luck. my first biz hit a similar wall.. we actually had a great product, but my 2 partners decided they didn't want to do any more work, so i got screwed during development, tech support, sales, and marketing. as well as trying to hold down my full-time job. didn't work.

 

2nd company is going much better, actually profitable now, though nothing i can quit my full-time job over. but it's a ton of fun, and i'm getting to meet a lot of people through it. probably had to fall on my face first before learning how to walk.

 

I think I am actually where I am at now. I made some mistakes and now, instead of developing something that MIGHT be a product in demand, I am going to find a market to guarantee some upfront money prior.

 

But next time, I am actually going to target a larger business scale and use my actual experience in energy to build a product. Or find an entreprenear with the cash to be able to fund the expenses and leave the development (and a smaller portion of ownership: maybe 15 or 20 percent to me) to me. I am very good at what I do but I am not a marketing/sales guy.

 

What business are you in? If you don't want to discuss here, email. You have it.

[Let Da Big Dog Eat 37]

Haven’t even read one post on this thread, but here is what I have done as a husband and a father:

 

Provide food, shelter and everything else my wife and kids need to live a nice life.

Private Tutor

Baseball, football coach, swimming teacher and every other sport you can think of

Child care about 14 hours a day

Accountant

Lawyer

Equal or more CEO responsibilities

Real Estate agent

Financial Manager (including budgeting and bill paying)

Tax preparer

Retirement planner/funder

Crisis management

Cook, launderer, home cleaning services

Lawn maintenance and landscape services

Dog groomer and trainer

Electrician

Plumber

Painter

Home Improvement contractor

Automobile maintenance and service specialist

Small engine maintenance and service specialist (lawnmowers, etc.)

Snow removal services

Private chauffeur

 

I could go on. Gee, I wonder what that is worth? And, this is with 30 seconds of thought.

Haven’t even read one post on this thread, but here is what I have done as a husband and a father:

 

 

I could go on with this list, but it just makes me sick that "stay at home mom's" do not give the men who provide for the resources that they can do that wish to think that they are providing sooooooooo much.  Totally pathetic.

[parrot 789]

I think I am actually where I am at now.

 

[Blitzen 0]

walk a mile in another person's shoes... that's all i'm trying to get across.

 

Yep stay at home and take care of kids for a few years and then come back and tell me it isn't work. Not sure that it's worth $140G but I'm pretty sure it's worth way more than you think it is Toro.

[edjr 5,567]

I'm going to Vegas next week to hide my shame.

 

 

[Toro 1]

Yep stay at home and take care of kids for a few years and then come back and tell me it isn't work. Not sure that it's worth $140G but I'm pretty sure it's worth way more than you think it is Toro.

 

Hey reading comprehension,

 

I never said it wasn't work. I said it's not the equivalent of 138k.

 

TIA. HTH. :hookedonphonics:

[MLCKAA 395]

Yep stay at home and take care of kids for a few years and then come back and tell me it isn't work. Not sure that it's worth $140G but I'm pretty sure it's worth way more than you think it is Toro.

 

 

The worth of being a responsible, nurturing parent can't be measured. It is invaluable to society.

 

The fact about this study, however, is that its completely stupid to analyze all the different tasks invovled in being a parent and to then assign salary values to those tasks from the labor market.

 

I am a claim adjuster-- that requires me to be part private investigator, part clerk, part contract analyst, part negotiator, part psychologist, and a plethora of other things. My salary isn't the combined salaries of all those different occupations.

 

Also, as Toro pointed out, parenting and homekeeping isn't one's job, its one's life. Yes, I put in 16 hours a day between my job, my house, my daughter, my dog and my wife (30-45 seconds of glory there) but only 8 hours of that is my job. The other 8 hours aren't compensable.

 

 

 

WHOA! I'm in a sig! I feel famous!

[make me mona 0]

Haven’t even read one post on this thread, but here is what I have done as a husband and a father:

 

Provide food, shelter and everything else my wife and kids need to live a nice life.

Private Tutor

Baseball, football coach, swimming teacher and every other sport you can think of

Child care about 14 hours a day

Accountant

Lawyer

Equal or more CEO responsibilities

Real Estate agent

Financial Manager (including budgeting and bill paying)

Tax preparer

Retirement planner/funder

Crisis management

Cook, launderer, home cleaning services

Lawn maintenance and landscape services

Dog groomer and trainer

Electrician

Plumber

Painter

Home Improvement contractor

Automobile maintenance and service specialist

Small engine maintenance and service specialist (lawnmowers, etc.)

Snow removal services

Private chauffeur

 

I could go on. Gee, I wonder what that is worth? And, this is with 30 seconds of thought.

Haven’t even read one post on this thread, but here is what I have done as a husband and a father:

I could go on with this list, but it just makes me sick that "stay at home mom's" do not give the men who provide for the resources that they can do that wish to think that they are providing sooooooooo much.  Totally pathetic.

 

How does putting a pricetag on what SAHM's provide for their children, diminish what you provide for the family? You get paid to do your job, right? The study just puts a salary to what SAHM's accomplish by raising the kids. It doesn't make your contribution any less.

 

I think it's clear that a lot of men on here clearly think Mother's are inferior human beings who simply can't handle a "real job" and so they have to stay home with the kids. So glad you married dumb women to raise your kids who will be even dumber

[TheNewGirl 1,031]

I think I am actually where I am at now.

 

 

Is that similar to "where ever you go, there you are."

[Toro 1]

How does putting a pricetag on what SAHM's provide for their children, diminish what you provide for the family? You get paid to do your job, right? The study just puts a salary to what SAHM's accomplish by raising the kids. It doesn't make your contribution any less.

 

I think it's clear that a lot of men on here clearly think Mother's are inferior human beings who simply can't handle a "real job" and so they have to stay home with the kids. So glad you married dumb women to raise your kids who will be even dumber

 

No one said it wasn't work. No one said anything about women being inferior. No one said that the SAHM couldn't hack it in the real world.

 

Everyone is saying that to value housework, which will need to be done regardless of whether the parent stays at home or works, as part of the salary is absolutely ludicrous. Everyone is also saying to claim to be the equivalent of an accountant or CEO because you balance your checkbook and pay a mortgage is absolutely ludicrous.

 

Quit putting words in our mouths.

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,432]

How does putting a pricetag on what SAHM's provide for their children, diminish what you provide for the family? You get paid to do your job, right? The study just puts a salary to what SAHM's accomplish by raising the kids. It doesn't make your contribution any less.

 

I think it's clear that a lot of men on here clearly think Mother's are inferior human beings who simply can't handle a "real job" and so they have to stay home with the kids. So glad you married dumb women to raise your kids who will be even dumber

 

Is that what you get out of this thread?

[Brown Eyed Girl 1]

I think it's clear that a lot of men on here clearly think Mother's are inferior human beings who simply can't handle a "real job" and so they have to stay home with the kids. So glad you married dumb women to raise your kids who will be even dumber

 

MMM - I don't think anyone was trying to say that at all.

 

I think it's insane to equate the skills, experience and knowledge of a CEO to the basic fundamentals of running a household. Or to say that balancing a checkbook makes one comparable in skills to a CPA and so on. As others have pointed out, all of these are 'life skills' that we all basically need to do to some degree in order to function and get by in our own everyday lives.

 

I'm not trying to demean the efforts and hard work a SAHM puts into her family, her children and her household... not at all! In fact, I can appreciate and respect the families who are able to make this work financially. But the figures and comparisons in that article are simply ludicrous imo.

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,432]

MMM - I don't think anyone was trying to say that at all.

 

I think it's insane to equate the skills, experience and knowledge of a CEO to the basic fundamentals of running a household. Or to say that balancing a checkbook makes one comparable in skills to a CPA and so on. As others have pointed out, all of these are 'life skills' that we all basically need to do to some degree in order to function and get by in our own everyday lives.

 

I'm not trying to demean the efforts and hard work a SAHM puts into her family, her children and her household... not at all! In fact, I can appreciate and respect the families who are able to make this work financially. But the figures and comparisons in that article are simply ludicrous imo.

 

You are so level headed.

 

 

Wanna fock?

[wiffleball 4,643]

MMM - I don't think anyone was trying to say that at all.

 

I think it's insane to equate the skills, experience and knowledge of a CEO to the basic fundamentals of running a household. Or to say that balancing a checkbook makes one comparable in skills to a CPA and so on. As others have pointed out, all of these are 'life skills' that we all basically need to do to some degree in order to function and get by in our own everyday lives.

 

I'm not trying to demean the efforts and hard work a SAHM puts into her family, her children and her household... not at all! In fact, I can appreciate and respect the families who are able to make this work financially. But the figures and comparisons in that article are simply ludicrous imo.