santa*69 0 Posted October 14, 2007 Honestly. Wins in the Big 10 are going to be cheap. I just wonder if we are looking at a O St. vs. S Florida or Boston College. Maybe in the long run it is the best thing possible maybe pays off in Playoff. I will not watch Ohio St who may end up playing nobody in that ends up in top 25 to get to National Title game. You cant have a true champ if some teams will end up with 6 to 7 teams they played in top 25 and teams like Ohio St and S Florida may have 0 to 1 or maybe 2. I hope it flips around because I do not want to watch any of those games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BUCKEYES 0 Posted October 14, 2007 Why don't you cry a little louder! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
santa*69 0 Posted October 14, 2007 Why don't you cry a little louder! You know it is true. This is not about Ohio State but you know you guys are not playing anybody this year. They don't belong in the top 10 let alone number one. Ohio State would lose 2 or 3 games in Pac 10 or SEC. Enjoy it you guys are benefiting from a failed system. I hope you get S Florida and lose. I really hope you get Florida Or USC or LSU and get crushed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted October 14, 2007 Honestly. Wins in the Big 10 are going to be cheap. I just wonder if we are looking at a O St. vs. S Florida or Boston College. Maybe in the long run it is the best thing possible maybe pays off in Playoff. I will not watch Ohio St who may end up playing nobody in that ends up in top 25 to get to National Title game. You cant have a true champ if some teams will end up with 6 to 7 teams they played in top 25 and teams like Ohio St and S Florida may have 0 to 1 or maybe 2. I hope it flips around because I do not want to watch any of those games. Wow...another Santa post whining about the Big 10. Nothing of USC losing to Stanford. Florida dropping 2. LSU losing to Kentucky. Its just oh...the Big 10 sucks. OSU has not lost a regular season game in quite a while now. Thats with teams like Texas, Michigan, @Washington, Wisconsin on the schedule. You don't think Michigan will be ranked? Umm...ok. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted October 14, 2007 You know it is true. This is not about Ohio State but you know you guys are not playing anybody this year. They don't belong in the top 10 let alone number one. Ohio State would lose 2 or 3 games in Pac 10 or SEC. Enjoy it you guys are benefiting from a failed system. I hope you get S Florida and lose. I really hope you get Florida Or USC or LSU and get crushed. Don't belong in the top 10? Umm...ok...we all know you hate the big 10. We get it...but that might be the most ignorant statement I have ever heard. I doubt OSU would have lost to Stanford at home like USC did. Hell, or Auburn for that matter. They might lose a few games in either of those conferences...then again, the same could be said for those other teams if they played in the big 10. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Four More Beers 0 Posted October 14, 2007 The Big 10 was exposed last year and it's even worse this year. Ohio State's schedule is no better than Hawaii's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GettnHuge 2 Posted October 14, 2007 Wow check out all the crying! Last I checked, you play who is on the schedule and take care of business and you'll be alright. Where were the weak schedule complaints when Ohio State scheduled a national championship caliber Texas to a home and away matchup? How about the fact that Ohio State has scheduled USC to a home and away the next two years? The only way they could accomplish that was to skip a bigtime out of conference opponent this year. I can't wait to hear the criticism of OSU scheduling University of Miami after that for a home and away. They'll be much improved by then. Where's the mention of them playing the #2 team in the country a never seen before 3 focking times last year? Real weak huh? When's the last time your team scheduled non-con top 5 teams 4 times in 5 years? It's not the Buckeyes fault that their opponents can't take care of business and are knocking each other off this year. you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted October 14, 2007 The Big 10 was exposed last year and it's even worse this year. Ohio State's schedule is no better than Hawaii's. I guess the SEC was exposed then...UT? Arkansas? Both beat by Big 10 teams. Those slow big 10 teams that could not handle the speed of the SEC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GettnHuge 2 Posted October 14, 2007 Of course no mention of how Wisconsin is 9-3 in their last 12 bowl games including 3 Rose Bowl wins. Victories over UCLAx3, Arkansas, Auburn... Ohio state 6-4 in their last 10 bowl games. 7 of which were BCS games where they went 5-2. 6 times finishing in the top 4 in the country. and when it comes to bowl games, they are basically road games for the big ten and home games for many of their opponents. How about this year we have the Pac10 or SEC come play up north in January and see who wins. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CantTouchThis 23 Posted October 14, 2007 Michigan fan here.... OSU is the clear cut #1 team in the country right now. Sure, nobody they played is ranked, but, they haven't been playing bums, they have played and beaten quality team. It's not only that they are undefeated, but, they have dominated every single game, they have just been blowing everyone apart and their defense has especially been very, very good. Anyone denying that OSU is #1 is obviously just lashing out because their team iks sucking or just got knocked off. Oh, and like someone said earlier, Michigan will be ranked after this week and will likely be ranked decently high when they play in November....that game will probably determain if they go back to the big show or not. However, with the way this season has been going, they will probably lose before they play Michigan... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted October 14, 2007 Wow...another Santa post whining about the Big 10. N Get a new schtick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted October 15, 2007 Get a new schtick. The minute he...or you...quit whining...I might. More smilies...seems like you need some new schtick. EOP already has that one covered. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,448 Posted October 15, 2007 God Focking Bless OSU if they run the tables. It's a down year for the Big Ten, that's not OSU's fault. There's still plenty of good teams that can trip them up. When the Big 12 was weak, nobody begrudged Nebraska it's successes in the rankings. Same with Florida State all those years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
moneyb 0 Posted October 15, 2007 If New England was in the SEC they would have 2 losses now too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,796 Posted October 15, 2007 Don't belong in the top 10? Umm...ok...we all know you hate the big 10. We get it...but that might be the most ignorant statement I have ever heard. I doubt OSU would have lost to Stanford at home like USC did. Hell, or Auburn for that matter. They might lose a few games in either of those conferences...then again, the same could be said for those other teams if they played in the big 10. How pathetic is it that OSU's only currently ranked opponent this year is Michigan (barely holding on at 25) - a team that lost hiorribly to a 2A ballclub? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted October 15, 2007 How pathetic is it that OSU's only currently ranked opponent this year is Michigan (barely holding on at 25) - a team that lost hiorribly to a 2A ballclub? How pathetic is it that people are whining about a schedule that was made 5 years ago. But just for fun...these are who OSU has scheduled home and home series with over the next several years. USC 2008/2009 Miami, FL 2010/2011 Cal 2012/2013 Va Tech 2014/2015 Tell me which SEC school has the balls to do that? Pac-10? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,796 Posted October 15, 2007 How pathetic is it that people are whining about a schedule that was made 5 years ago. Link? Honestly, I don't know how they set up their schedule. And I guess 5 years ago, OSU predicted that Youngstown state, Kent State and Akron would be real powerhouses this year, huh?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surferskin 30 Posted October 15, 2007 Link? Honestly, I don't know how they set up their schedule. And I guess 5 years ago, OSU predicted that Youngstown state, Kent State and Akron would be real powerhouses this year, huh?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surferskin 30 Posted October 15, 2007 seriously, OSU's out of conference schedule is as weak as it gets. 3 games vs. bottom feeder ohio teams and then a game vs. the sucktastic huskies? that's your schedule? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 1,093 Posted October 15, 2007 Kansas #15, they play football there too!#@ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted October 15, 2007 Link? Honestly, I don't know how they set up their schedule. And I guess 5 years ago, OSU predicted that Youngstown state, Kent State and Akron would be real powerhouses this year, huh?? Schedules are made along ago. The Kent State and Akron things are made to appease the people in Ohio. Youngstown I believe was a replacement game IIRC. They also went to Washingon (which everyone talked about and it was the chic upset pick) and won in one of the harder places to go on the road. Im not saying their schedule is tough, Im saying quit whining about it. They are #1 because unlike USC and other Pac-10 schools...they have not lost to unranked huge underdogs (at home for USC). And they have not gotten to their tougher Big10 games just yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted October 15, 2007 seriously, OSU's out of conference schedule is as weak as it gets. 3 games vs. bottom feeder ohio teams and then a game vs. the sucktastic huskies? that's your schedule? And LSU played VaTech...and who else? Florida played who? USC played who? Texas played who? Oklahoma played who? Please...show me these great OOC schedules around the country. Every team schedules weak OOC games...its typical of every big school. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 1,093 Posted October 15, 2007 And LSU played VaTech...and who else?Florida played who? USC played who? Texas played who? Oklahoma played who? Please...show me these great OOC schedules around the country. Every team schedules weak OOC games...its typical of every big school. Kansas isn't shying away from their weak non-conference games. If anything, the big wains against lesser teams has really given the Jayhawks the confidence booster they need, and a warm-up for the tougher conference games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,783 Posted October 15, 2007 The ONLY reason Ohio State is ranked ahead of BC and USF is because they started the season ahead of them. The fatal flaw of all polls. And the reason for a playoff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,796 Posted October 15, 2007 The ONLY reason Ohio State is ranked ahead of BC and USF is because they started the season ahead of them. The fatal flaw of all polls. And the reason for a playoff. Half right. The way this season is going is a perfect argument for outlawing pre-season rankings in the first place. And, certainly for not including pre week 4 rankings in BCS calculations (if they are). The way this season is going is a good argument AGAINST the playoff system. This may be the first year I've seen that argues against the playoff system, but I'll at least admit it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Isotopes 1 Posted October 15, 2007 The ONLY reason Ohio State is ranked ahead of BC and USF is because they started the season ahead of them. The fatal flaw of all polls. And the reason for a playoff. Right or wrong, I think schools like Ohio State, USC, Florida, LSU etc get preferential treatment over teams that are not in the running every year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,796 Posted October 15, 2007 Right or wrong, I think schools like Ohio State, USC, Florida, LSU etc get preferential treatment over teams that are not in the running every year. Ya THINK??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GettnHuge 2 Posted October 15, 2007 seriously, OSU's out of conference schedule is as weak as it gets. 3 games vs. bottom feeder ohio teams and then a game vs. the sucktastic huskies? that's your schedule? this will be perhaps the 5th time I've had to explain this. Ok here it goes again... Ohio State was trying to schedule USC for -this year- but it felt through and they had to settle for USC in 08 and 09. This left a gap in the schedule for 07. Unfortunately it's tough to get another big time opponent at the last minute, specially for just 1 game. So as usual the state legislature steps in and Tadaa! another in state opponent. That keeps millions of dollars in state and gives a large sum to smaller universities which said legislators might have attended. In exchange, OSU gets extra bennies from said legislators. Other states are starting to catch onto this type of reach around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,796 Posted October 15, 2007 this will be perhaps the 5th time I've had to explain this. Ok here it goes again... Ohio State was trying to schedule USC for -this year- but it felt through and they had to settle for USC in 08 and 09. This left a gap in the schedule for 07. Unfortunately it's tough to get another big time opponent at the last minute, specially for just 1 game. So as usual the state legislature steps in and Tadaa! another in state opponent. That keeps millions of dollars in state and gives a large sum to smaller universities which said legislators might have attended. In exchange, OSU gets extra bennies from said legislators. Other states are starting to catch onto this type of reach around. So, regardless of motivation/circumstance, you're agreeing that they're playing cupcake teams, correct? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GettnHuge 2 Posted October 15, 2007 So, regardless of motivation/circumstance, you're agreeing that they're playing cupcake teams, correct? link to teams who don't play cupcakes every year? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,796 Posted October 15, 2007 link to teams who don't play cupcakes every year? So, regardless of motivation/circumstance, you're agreeing that they're playing cupcake teams, correct? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,796 Posted October 15, 2007 link to teams who don't play cupcakes every year? I'll answer yours when you answer mine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GettnHuge 2 Posted October 15, 2007 I'll answer yours when you answer mine. i just acknowledged that they play cupcakes. who doesn't? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,796 Posted October 15, 2007 i just acknowledged that they play cupcakes.who doesn't? Few that I know of. However, #1) Many would argue this is one of the easiest non-con schedules this year and: #2) At least CMH doesn't argue that Nebraska "Wanted" to play tougher teams. He actually brags about Neb taking the easiest schedule they can. #3) Where'd you learn what OSU "wanted" to do, but couldn't? I don't recall seeing that story. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GettnHuge 2 Posted October 15, 2007 #3) Where'd you learn what OSU "wanted" to do, but couldn't? I don't recall seeing that story. story? I suppose I could look through some of my alum mags or recruiting bulletins. Maybe scan some info for ya. That's where I get most of it. You don't see the $$$ reasons that state legislators get them to play other in-state schools as often as possible? It's no secret here. Congressman Jon Doe, grad of Akron uses his influence to get a bigtime matchup for his school and a million dollars and in exchange gives OSU something they want. Ever notice Michigan isn't coming down here and playing Akron and vice versa for OSU? For the same reasons, politics and $$$. It's also no secret that since getting Texas, OSU has been after USC for a home and away. Like I said they could only schedule it in 08/09, leaving a gap this year. You think LSU would come up here in 07 and then have no home game against OSU in 08? Nope. You think OSU would go down there without having a home game against LSU in return? nope. So the people who pull the $$$ and influence strings say: greta, you should play Kent this year! Don't dare take the $$$ out of state. Maybe you just don't get how this 'system' works. $ talks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,796 Posted October 15, 2007 Maybe you just don't get how this 'system' works. $ talks. I understand how the system works. What I don't see if any real indication of your defense of OSU that they really "wanted" to play superior teams, but darn the luck, they just couldn't.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted October 15, 2007 The ONLY reason Ohio State is ranked ahead of BC and USF is because they started the season ahead of them. The fatal flaw of all polls. And the reason for a playoff. Well...that and they would wax both BC and USF. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Isotopes 1 Posted October 15, 2007 I understand how the system works. What I don't see if any real indication of your defense of OSU that they really "wanted" to play superior teams, but darn the luck, they just couldn't.... If they don't want to play better teams why are they playing USC the next 2 years? Why did they play Texas the last 2 years? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surferskin 30 Posted October 15, 2007 Well...that and they would wax both BC and USF. LINK??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GettnHuge 2 Posted October 15, 2007 If they don't want to play better teams why are they playing USC the next 2 years? Why did they play Texas the last 2 years? what other Univ has scheduled 4 out of conference national title contender top 3 ranked caliber teams in 5 years? anyone? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites