9-Route 0 Posted January 18, 2009 fabulous game. looked like it would end as i predicted, but the score was still very close [31-20 versus actual 32-25]. ---great showing for both teams. arizona came out as they knew they had to do---fast and quick. they got the ball to their playmakers, and they most importantly scored TDs. ---philly showed some great composure to understand the length of the game, and understand cris carter's old friend "mo", and they seized it by scoring and placing some pressure on arizona to keep playing. ---arizona like some other teams this postseason [ie colts] has to learn to be coldblooded. when you have someone's neck under your boot, you must have the guts to look them in the eye and pull the trigger for the killshot. if you don't, it's the old movie adage: "don't sit there talking about killing someone, do it, or they'll kill you". ---super playcalling by whisenhunt and the offensive staff most of the game. they mixed the runs, which were very efficient all day---very few negative or bad run plays, and edgerrin ran like a 26-yr old today. he showed power and agility to make positive gains even on defended run plays. the best playcall of the game was the 4th-and-inches in the 4th qtr. whisenhunt remembered that big brandon jacobs could not get any movement up the middle last week, and thus put the ball into the hands of the rookie runner hightower to use his jets and get the corner for the 1st down conversion. equally gutsy and impressive. ---warner was fazed in the 3rd qtr, but in the 4th qtr, getting the ball at 10:30 on the clock, he put together a simply masterful drive. the first play was important, getting the ball into fitz's hands after he had gone cold for the entire 3rd qtr; the great run gains, and use of both runners was also nice. loved the design of the TD play, allowing the edge rushers up the field and using the middle shovel screen. ---mcfagg battled well today; he struggled early, but used the short passes to celek to get hot late; made the bomb to frax jax and connected on 2 other deepballs to curtis, but couldn't get the ball into westbrook's hands enough, or make all the opportunities count [missed a few relatively easier looking long gainers]. ---when all is said and done: warner, 3 chmpshp games, 3 SB trips [i can't wait for boomer to say, "kurt warner, you can set your watch by him, every 10 years he slides into an offense with 2 stud wrs and a great fit offensive coordinator...see you again in 2018, kurt"; mcfagg, 5 chmpshp games, 1 SB trip, 4 losses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,844 Posted January 19, 2009 I just ordered the NFC championship hat and shirts. We've got a frined there who was in line at the game for them, allegedly to get us some as well, unless they have limits. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mackgee 0 Posted January 19, 2009 We've got a frined there who was in line at the game for them, allegedly to get us some as well, unless they have limits. Hey man, just order them from NFL.com 1-866--NFC-6565 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GhostofMeanMachine99 1 Posted January 19, 2009 I'm kinda drunk, so I'll keep it short. Congrats to the Cardinals. You deserve it. Your team played better today, and the Eagles deserved to lose. Kinda congrats to the Eagles for not throwing in the towel this season, and they should thank their lucky stars for everything that allowed them to creep into the playoffs. With that said, why the fock do you run an 18 yard out on 4th and 10? At that point in the game, the timeclock was not an issue, based on field position. Four focking pass plays and it nets you zero yards? Really? Kudos to McNabb. Played a real good game. Not great, because he did miss a few throws. Greg Lewis, I hope they find your body floating in the Delaware River something in the next few weeks. How an NFL receiver can drop a pass like that, I'll never understand. Demps. You better get focking better this offseason, because you were lousy today. Jim Johnson, that hip better be good to go before next season, because your wrinkled azz needs to be on the sidelines. Andy Reid. Pick a job. GM or coach. You can't have both. You're a real good head coach (except for today) but not so good with personnel. Pick a focking job and be done with it. Any Eagle fan who wants to blame McNabb is a focking idiot, and should root for another team. Hell, I almost beat the crap out of some dude today because the only thing he could do was rip on McNabb and not root for the Eagles. The Negadelphia element needs to find another team to root for. Plain and simple. I can understand why some folks give the tribe a bad rap. Those focking negative fans need to hit the road. I'm done. Again, congrats to the Cardinal fans. You played better today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted January 19, 2009 I'm kinda drunk, so I'll keep it short. Any Eagle fan who wants to blame McNabb is a focking idiot, and should root for another team. Hell, I almost beat the crap out of some dude today because the only thing he could do was rip on McNabb and not root for the Eagles. Yep, you're drunk. Anytime I go outside for a smoke, all the chatter in my neighborhood is that McNabb sucks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phurfur 70 Posted January 19, 2009 Yep, you're drunk. Anytime I go outside for a smoke, all the chatter in my neighborhood is that McNabb sucks. So you are saying you live in a neighborhood full of idiot? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GhostofMeanMachine99 1 Posted January 19, 2009 Yep, you're drunk. Anytime I go outside for a smoke, all the chatter in my neighborhood is that McNabb sucks. That's because you live in the city with the rest of the illiterate trash. First off, at your age, you shouldn't smoke. Secondly, most of the negadelphia morons live in the city. Like I said, anybody who's blaming McNabb for the loss or criticizing him for his play today needs to find another team to root for. Plain and simple. The kicker alone accounted for 5 points, not to mention the kickoff out of bounds that led to points. Reid's timeout to prolong Arizona's end of half field goal accounted for the loss. Way too many mistakes made by players other than McNabb today to overcome the 35 points scored by Arizona. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted January 19, 2009 So you are saying you live in a neighborhood full of idiot? Well, they are Eagle fans. Draw any conclusion you want to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mackgee 0 Posted January 19, 2009 Well, they are Eagle fans. Draw any conclusion you want to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted January 19, 2009 That's because you live in the city with the rest of the illiterate trash. First off, at your age, you shouldn't smoke. Secondly, most of the negadelphia morons live in the city. Like I said, anybody who's blaming McNabb for the loss or criticizing him for his play today needs to find another team to root for. Plain and simple. The kicker alone accounted for 5 points, not to mention the kickoff out of bounds that led to points. Reid's timeout to prolong Arizona's end of half field goal accounted for the loss. Way too many mistakes made by players other than McNabb today to overcome the 35 points scored by Arizona. Arizona scored 32 points. Holy fock, how drunk are you? I won't bother with your nonsense. Sober up first. I'm drinking too, but at least my facts are right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GhostofMeanMachine99 1 Posted January 19, 2009 Arizona scored 32 points. Holy fock, how drunk are you? I won't bother with your nonsense. Sober up first. I'm drinking too, but at least my facts are right. Who gives a flying fock if it were 38 points? McNabb played well today. Played well enough to win, but c'mon, 4 straight downs in the middle of the field, and the playcalling wouldn't allow for a run or two to get them in a manageable third or fourth down situation? Who the fock runs their receiver on an 18 yard out when you have fourth and ten, with nothing underneath? I won't say anything about the officiating today, because it may come across as an excuse. It was pretty bad, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kilroy 0 Posted January 19, 2009 Only good that will come of this is if McNabb is gone next year. I can't believe we lost to the damn Cardinals.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mackgee 0 Posted January 19, 2009 Only good that will come of this is if McNabb is gone next year. I can't believe we lost to the damn Cardinals.... But.. But, you beat them on Thanksgiving. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kilroy 0 Posted January 19, 2009 But.. But, you beat them on Thanksgiving. Yea, I wasn't one of the Eagles fans pounding my chest after that like a few others were... I just can't believe a franchise like the Eagles lost to the Cardinals with a trip to the Super Bowl on the line. It'd be a little easier to swallow had it been a franchise like the 49ers, or Packers or something... but the Cardinals... ugh... just doesn't sit well at all. Last thing I need to see after all of this would be a reworked deal for McNabb that keeps him in Philly another 3 years or so. I'm tired of watching him "lead" this offense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phurfur 70 Posted January 19, 2009 Only good that will come of this is if McNabb is gone next year. I can't believe we lost to the damn Cardinals.... Yea, I wasn't one of the Eagles fans pounding my chest after that like a few others were... I just can't believe a franchise like the Eagles lost to the Cardinals with a trip to the Super Bowl on the line. It'd be a little easier to swallow had it been a franchise like the 49ers, or Packers or something... but the Cardinals... ugh... just doesn't sit well at all. Last thing I need to see after all of this would be a reworked deal for McNabb that keeps him in Philly another 3 years or so. I'm tired of watching him "lead" this offense. It was pretty obvious that the Cards were a better team. What is your problem? The beauty of the NFL is that every year is a new year, it doesn't matter what you did in the 50's 60's 70's 80's................................. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GhostofMeanMachine99 1 Posted January 19, 2009 Only good that will come of this is if McNabb is gone next year. I can't believe we lost to the damn Cardinals.... What a shocker. And if the Eagles would have somehow won it this year, you'd still be yapping about the last SB loss to the Patriots. Why is it that you only show up on the bored after an Eagle's loss, and no matter what game it is, you're always talking about how poorly McNabb played? Granted, he had some poor throws today. No one ever said he was Joe Montana. However, he made some great throws today, some of which were dropped (Lewis, Curtis, and Avant for starters). The defense played poorly today, and the only turnover they could muster today was Jackson't hustle play on offense. And because the defense played poorly today, it was especially important to have Westbrook as a bigger contributor today. He was not. It's over, the Cards won, the Eagles lost, McNabb and Reid will be back, and they need to figure out how to rebuild that offensive line via the draft (and to sign Winslow as a FA). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kilroy 0 Posted January 19, 2009 Any Eagle fan who wants to blame McNabb is a focking idiot, and should root for another team. Hell, I almost beat the crap out of some dude today because the only thing he could do was rip on McNabb and not root for the Eagles. The Negadelphia element needs to find another team to root for. Plain and simple. I can understand why some folks give the tribe a bad rap. Those focking negative fans need to hit the road. You mean like you do? You mean maybe I can parade around as an Eagles fan while all the time really being a Steelers fan? Oh gee, how foolish Eagles fans are for not having another team they root for on the side. Give me a break. At least you're off the hook now GOMM, you can root for your Steelers to win the Super Bowl without worrying about it coming against your 2nd favorite team. What a shocker. And if the Eagles would have somehow won it this year, you'd still be yapping about the last SB loss to the Patriots. Yes, "if" this and "if" that right? - and "if" the Eagles had beaten the Patriots... or "if" they beat Tampa Bay, or Carolina, or St. Louis, and now we can add "if" they beat Arizona. "If" they won those games then yea, McNabb would be the QB you like to make him out to be. Just because he's the QB of my favorite team doesn't mean I have to be a fan of his. Why is it that you only show up on the bored after an Eagle's loss, and no matter what game it is, you're always talking about how poorly McNabb played? I'm on the board throughout the year. Has nothing to do with an Eagles win or loss. As for the second part of that question - think about it... if McNabb played well then I wouldn't have reason to talk about his poor play, would I? He doesn't have the "it" factor. He never has and never will. He's a great talent and all that, but I'd rather have a winner on my team. There's a reason why guys like Kurt Warner win these games and McNabb doesn't. That doesn't make McNabb a bad QB, but I've seen enough of what he has to offer. It's not gonna cut it. In terms of an NFL career he has had a darn good one and accomplished a lot. I'd rather have a Championship QB though over one that has achieved lesser goals throughout his career. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,059 Posted January 19, 2009 I just want to say: that was P.I. against Curtis on the 4th and 10 play. You really can't get a whole lot more blatant than that play: the Cardinals' DB intentionally tripped Curtis. Only if he had managed to grab Curtis and haul him to the ground could it have been a more egregious display of pass interference. That said, the Eagles lost this game in the first half, through McNabb's terrible play and the coaching staff's idiotic decision to leave Larry Fitzgerald in single coverage most of the time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stonewall 647 Posted January 19, 2009 Fock being nice for the rest of the day. All you bogus Cardinal fans, show yourselves. Come get some. They came and got it alright......but gave a little bit more. Hey, at least you were man enough to come back on here (drunk though you may have been) and congratulate the Cards. Great game, really. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GhostofMeanMachine99 1 Posted January 19, 2009 You mean like you do? You mean maybe I can parade around as an Eagles fan while all the time really being a Steelers fan? Oh gee, how foolish Eagles fans are for not having another team they root for on the side. Give me a break. At least you're off the hook now GOMM, you can root for your Steelers to win the Super Bowl without worrying about it coming against your 2nd favorite team. Yes, "if" this and "if" that right? - and "if" the Eagles had beaten the Patriots... or "if" they beat Tampa Bay, or Carolina, or St. Louis, and now we can add "if" they beat Arizona. "If" they won those games then yea, McNabb would be the QB you like to make him out to be. Just because he's the QB of my favorite team doesn't mean I have to be a fan of his. I'm on the board throughout the year. Has nothing to do with an Eagles win or loss. As for the second part of that question - think about it... if McNabb played well then I wouldn't have reason to talk about his poor play, would I? He doesn't have the "it" factor. He never has and never will. He's a great talent and all that, but I'd rather have a winner on my team. There's a reason why guys like Kurt Warner win these games and McNabb doesn't. That doesn't make McNabb a bad QB, but I've seen enough of what he has to offer. It's not gonna cut it. In terms of an NFL career he has had a darn good one and accomplished a lot. I'd rather have a Championship QB though over one that has achieved lesser goals throughout his career. You have nothing to offer except "McNabb's gotta go" rhetoric. Plain and simple. If you think it was McNabb who lost the game, and not the defense, and not Akers, you're a focking retard who shouldn't be allowed to be a football fan. Fans like you are part of the problem not part of the solution. Fans like you are the ones who give everyone a bad name. And that's a fact. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GhostofMeanMachine99 1 Posted January 19, 2009 They came and got it alright......but gave a little bit more. Hey, at least you were man enough to come back on here (drunk though you may have been) and congratulate the Cards. Great game, really. The Cards were a better team yesterday. Fitzgerald is a beast and the best WR in the game. Period. The Eagles made just enough mistakes yesterday to lose, and the Cards made plays when they had to. IMO, one guy who's getting out of this unscathed is David Akers. He accounted for 5 points yesterday (horribly missed field goal and extra point, his miss being the reason why they went for two later), along with the kickoff out of bounds. Having a 6 point lead instead of a one point lead doesn't necessarily change the complexion of the entire fourth quarter, but it does change the urgency of what points the Eagles need on the last drive. They have the ball, around midfield, with two timeouts remaining near the two minute warning. Why does Reid call four straight pass plays? Why does Curtis run an 18 yard out on 4th down when you only need 10 yards? Some of the things that Andy Reid does just boggles my mind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
49ers_suck 0 Posted January 19, 2009 thank you, Cardinals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phurfur 70 Posted January 19, 2009 thank you, Cardinals. and you thought it was a fluke when AZ beat Dallas this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan 66 Posted January 19, 2009 The Cards were a better team yesterday. Fitzgerald is a beast and the best WR in the game. Period. The Eagles made just enough mistakes yesterday to lose, and the Cards made plays when they had to. IMO, one guy who's getting out of this unscathed is David Akers. He accounted for 5 points yesterday (horribly missed field goal and extra point, his miss being the reason why they went for two later), along with the kickoff out of bounds. Having a 6 point lead instead of a one point lead doesn't necessarily change the complexion of the entire fourth quarter, but it does change the urgency of what points the Eagles need on the last drive. They have the ball, around midfield, with two timeouts remaining near the two minute warning. Why does Reid call four straight pass plays? Why does Curtis run an 18 yard out on 4th down when you only need 10 yards? Some of the things that Andy Reid does just boggles my mind. Okay, I hear what you're saying about Akers, but I think you need to let up a little. Yes, he missed a 48-yarder . . . his first miss this post-season, and his first miss in the last 20 post-season attempts, which is an NFL record. The extra point was horrendous . . . I have no idea who was kicking that. I think the ball boy got a hold of Akers Jersey and ran out there. But the hold was atrocious, too, so "credit" where it's due. The kickoff was a mistake, but it merely balanced out what Neil Rackers had done on the Cardinals previous kickoff. So if Akers cost the Eagles with that screw-up, then Rackers cost the Cards the chance to stay up bigger. Just saying. There were enough errors to go around; I'm not sure Akers is the guy I'd be calling out today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GhostofMeanMachine99 1 Posted January 19, 2009 Okay, I hear what you're saying about Akers, but I think you need to let up a little. Yes, he missed a 48-yarder . . . his first miss this post-season, and his first miss in the last 20 post-season attempts, which is an NFL record. The extra point was horrendous . . . I have no idea who was kicking that. I think the ball boy got a hold of Akers Jersey and ran out there. But the hold was atrocious, too, so "credit" where it's due. The kickoff was a mistake, but it merely balanced out what Neil Rackers had done on the Cardinals previous kickoff. So if Akers cost the Eagles with that screw-up, then Rackers cost the Cards the chance to stay up bigger. Just saying. There were enough errors to go around; I'm not sure Akers is the guy I'd be calling out today. I'm just making a point here for all the folks who say that McNabb doesn't make the big plays in the big games. Sure, that field goal is not a chip shot. Sure, he didn't lose them the game. It was a team effort all the way around. However, his misses resulted in points. 5 points. They lost by 7. What bothers me the most about him was the reaction after the game. He basically said "I accounted for 4 points. So what?" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan 66 Posted January 19, 2009 I'm just making a point here for all the folks who say that McNabb doesn't make the big plays in the big games. Sure, that field goal is not a chip shot. Sure, he didn't lose them the game. It was a team effort all the way around. However, his misses resulted in points. 5 points. They lost by 7. What bothers me the most about him was the reaction after the game. He basically said "I accounted for 4 points. So what?" I haven't heard his post-game reaction . . . and if that was his reaction, that really is a shame. There are more issues there than noted. Gary Anderson was hung out to dry after failing to hit the field goal to beat Atlanta, and that despite hitting everyhing else (literally) that year. But I'm pretty sure he didn't shrug it off. No one felt worse. If David Akers was that dismissive, then that's too bad. He apparently has some growing up to do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kilroy 0 Posted January 20, 2009 You have nothing to offer except "McNabb's gotta go" rhetoric. Plain and simple. In regards to the Eagles at this point. That is the main thing I'm telling people. I've seen him now for 10 years. I know how Andy Reid runs his offense. There's no need for me to go in depth discussing the X's and O's of football on a message board right now. It's not a matter of what I know. It's a matter of what I feel like discussing. If you think it was McNabb who lost the game, and not the defense, and not Akers, you're a focking retard who shouldn't be allowed to be a football fan. Haha... always going back to the name calling, don't ya GOMM? Nothing else to resort to? Fans like you are part of the problem not part of the solution. Fans like you are the ones who give everyone a bad name. And that's a fact. Forgive me - but I beg to differ. It's fans like you (you know, ones that say they are Eagles fans, meanwhile they are really rooting for the Steelers and have even stated previously that you would root for the Steelers in the SB to beat the Eagles) who give fans a bad name. Now I don't know if that is a "fact" like you do, but oh what the hell - you seem to think you're all knowledgeable when it comes to anything football related. Anyways, you should be happy GOMM - you're favorite team is in the Super Bowl. You got your Terrible Towl out yet to root for your Steelers? Give me a break. You're so far off from being an Eagles fan it's a joke. They're your team on the side and you act like your a diehard Eagles fan. You can't be both buddy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GhostofMeanMachine99 1 Posted January 21, 2009 In regards to the Eagles at this point. That is the main thing I'm telling people. I've seen him now for 10 years. I know how Andy Reid runs his offense. There's no need for me to go in depth discussing the X's and O's of football on a message board right now. It's not a matter of what I know. It's a matter of what I feel like discussing. Haha... always going back to the name calling, don't ya GOMM? Nothing else to resort to? Forgive me - but I beg to differ. It's fans like you (you know, ones that say they are Eagles fans, meanwhile they are really rooting for the Steelers and have even stated previously that you would root for the Steelers in the SB to beat the Eagles) who give fans a bad name. Now I don't know if that is a "fact" like you do, but oh what the hell - you seem to think you're all knowledgeable when it comes to anything football related. Anyways, you should be happy GOMM - you're favorite team is in the Super Bowl. You got your Terrible Towl out yet to root for your Steelers? Give me a break. You're so far off from being an Eagles fan it's a joke. They're your team on the side and you act like your a diehard Eagles fan. You can't be both buddy. And in typical fashion, you're dead wrong. At least you're consistent, like only posting after they lose, and with nothing ever constructive to add in a conversation. Miserable twat is what you are. Guess you may be neighbors with Phillybear. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted January 21, 2009 Miserable twat is what you are. Guess you may be neighbors with Phillybear. I can assure you that this is not true. All my neighbors are dead. At least I think they are. They were still alive when I buried them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GhostofMeanMachine99 1 Posted January 21, 2009 I can assure you that this is not true. All my neighbors are dead. At least I think they are. They were still alive when I buried them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kilroy 0 Posted January 22, 2009 And in typical fashion, you're dead wrong. At least you're consistent, like only posting after they lose, and with nothing ever constructive to add in a conversation. Miserable twat is what you are. Guess you may be neighbors with Phillybear. Back to namecalling? For as bad as you try to portray me, telling me I'm not a "good" fan and what not - you will notice I've never resorted to calling you names. You call people names and stated you were gonna beat a guy up simply because we rag on McNabb. How can you act like that and then try telling others they are the problem? And btw, you have stated on these boards in the past you would root for the Steelers to beat the Eagles in a Super Bowl. There's no other reason I would know your a Steelers fan. Well, except for the fact I'm pretty certain you've also said in the past your screen name is in reference to Mean Joe Greene. Are you now denying you're a Steelers fan? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites