truck bitch 0 Posted March 25, 2009 Has anyone on this board rolled anyone over??????????????? Probably not, meaning we have just enough responsibilty for our own actions Once again throw his ass in jail!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Once again if I rolled someone over I'd be in jail first, ask questions later That is the problem with this country, money means freedom no matter what kind of crap you pull (OBVIOUS TO EVERYONE) Does this not bother anyone? Just go on with everyday business with someone else making decisions for you as long as you get you fantasy lineup in it's all good Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad Brad 0 Posted March 25, 2009 Has anyone on this board rolled anyone over??????????????? Probably not, meaning we have just enough responsibilty for our own actions Once again throw his ass in jail!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Once again if I rolled someone over I'd be in jail first, ask questions later That is the problem with this country, money means freedom no matter what kind of crap you pull (OBVIOUS TO EVERYONE) Does this not bother anyone? Just go on with everyday business with someone else making decisions for you as long as you get you fantasy lineup in it's all good You must be a blond cause your a fockin idiot... MB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surferskin 30 Posted March 26, 2009 From what I understand of what is being reported on Faux News, the authorities are checking as to whether the Cuban-born pedestrian was in the country illegally. Apparently, recent legislation that was tied to the Patriot Act and further affirmed with the Stimulus Bill of 2009, it makes the running over of an illegal alien with a car worth more than $200k perfectly legal. You can't fault the authorities from making sure that they have all their ducks in a row in such case where it could go either way. So will he be getting a medal? Somebodies gotta defend the border. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GettnHuge 2 Posted April 1, 2009 manslaughter it is! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,789 Posted April 1, 2009 A DUI manslaughter charge is expected to be filed Wednesday afternoon against Cleveland Browns wide receiver Donte' Stallworth, alleging the football player was driving drunk last month when he struck and killed a pedestrian on Miami Beach, according to a source with knowledge of the investigation. Blood tests revealed Stallworth had a blood alcohol level of .12 after the 7 a.m. crash, a second source with knowledge of the investigation told The Miami Herald. Arrangements have been made for Stallworth to surrender to authorities, the source said. Stallworth's attorney, Christopher Lyons, declined comment. Police have been investigating Stallworth since March 14, when police responded to the scene of a fatal car crash at the southeast end of the MacArthur Causeway in Miami Beach. Police said Stallworth was driving a Bentley east on the MacArthur Causeway about 7 a.m. and struck Mario Reyes, 59, who was getting off work and crossing the street to get to a bus stop. A video obtained by The Miami Herald shows Stallworth, dressed in jeans and a shirt, being given a sobriety test by two Miami Beach police officers. Reyes worked for the shipping company Bernuth Agencies, which is a short distance from the crash site. Reyes was born in Cuba and left as a teenager for a better life in the United States. He worked numerous construction jobs. He was an avid baseball fan, particularly fond of the Florida Marlins. Reyes is survived by his wife of almost 20 years, Catalina, and the couple's 15-year-old daughter, Daniela. Stallworth signed a seven-year, $35 million contract with the Browns as a free agent before last season, but hardly played because of a hamstrung injury. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GhostofMeanMachine99 1 Posted April 1, 2009 So if the local authorities were waiting this long before charging him, sounds to me the evidence will be overwhelming. Nice knowing you, Stallworth. Say hello to Rae Carruth for us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,789 Posted April 1, 2009 Focking sucks all the way around. A family loses a Dad and Husband. A 28 year old guy is likely focked for life. Don't really see where a belongs here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GhostofMeanMachine99 1 Posted April 1, 2009 Focking sucks all the way around. A family loses a Dad and Husband. A 28 year old guy is likely focked for life. Don't really see where a belongs here. The fact that he wasn't socially responsible for his drinking behavior and his "oh, i flashed my lights" comment, which is complete and utter bullshe-it. He doesn't deserve to see the light of day and needs to be in a prison cell. One more brain dead azzwipe off the streets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
luckdogg17 0 Posted April 1, 2009 the whole "i flashed my lights" thing sounds like total BS to me. if he had time to flash his lights.......wouldn't he have had time to slow down or even swerve to avoid him. if he did actually flash his lights, then it seems even worse to me. "i flashed my lights. he didn't see me flash my lights, so i plowed right through him........" ummm, ok. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted April 1, 2009 The fact that he wasn't socially responsible for his drinking behavior and his "oh, i flashed my lights" comment, which is complete and utter bullshe-it. He doesn't deserve to see the light of day and needs to be in a prison cell. One more brain dead azzwipe off the streets. +1 and I'll add another Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaveJ 0 Posted April 2, 2009 If convicted, he will probably get 18 months at most, plus a fine etc. If he gets more than that, I will be surprised unless there are mandatory sentencing guidelines. This will cost him quite a bit of money as well, legal fees and civil suits etc. It will be interesting to see who spends more time in jail ultimately.... a guy who runs over a human while drunk or a guy who makes dogs fight to the death.... my money at this point says Vick ends up spending more time than Stallworth will in the end. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phan420 0 Posted April 2, 2009 If convicted, he will probably get 18 months at most, plus a fine etc. If he gets more than that, I will be surprised unless there are mandatory sentencing guidelines. This will cost him quite a bit of money as well, legal fees and civil suits etc. It will be interesting to see who spends more time in jail ultimately.... a guy who runs over a human while drunk or a guy who makes dogs fight to the death.... my money at this point says Vick ends up spending more time than Stallworth will in the end. Unfortunately, I have to agree here. Also, ESPN is reporting that Florida has a law called "Comparative Negligence", which will determine which part the alcohol actually played in the accident since the guy crossed the street outside of the crosswalk, so that will also probably play a role in reducing his sentence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GhostofMeanMachine99 1 Posted April 2, 2009 the whole "i flashed my lights" thing sounds like total BS to me. if he had time to flash his lights.......wouldn't he have had time to slow down or even swerve to avoid him. if he did actually flash his lights, then it seems even worse to me. "i flashed my lights. he didn't see me flash my lights, so i plowed right through him........" ummm, ok. If he had time to flash his lights and honk the horn, he had time enough to change lanes or swerve out of the guy's path. He was prolly tired, a little sleepy, a little drunk, and half paying attention when he hit the guy. No way his celebrity gets him out of this one. Maybe his money gets him a better lawyer who can negotiate a lesser sentence, but this guy's going away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nomad99 731 Posted April 2, 2009 I'm glad they took the time to build all the evidence to charge him.....I'm not sure why the tox report took so long....wasn't it supposed to come out last Friday???? Too bad all around for everyone.......I can't believe that in this day & age a pro athlete would STILL get in their car after drinking......this time it cost a life & a career.....shame. I had hoped as unfortunate as it was, that it was just an accident & that booze played no part. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Melissa Stark 1 Posted April 2, 2009 Stallworth, 28, is expected to surrender this morning in front of Circuit Judge Dennis Murphy and then be released on bond, which will be set at $200,000. He is expected to return to Cleveland to continue to work out in the Browns' off-season program. His arraignment is April 23. DUI manslaughter is a second-degree felony that carries a minimum of four years to a maximum of 15 years in prison if convicted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,057 Posted April 2, 2009 Unfortunately, I have to agree here. Also, ESPN is reporting that Florida has a law called "Comparative Negligence", which will determine which part the alcohol actually played in the accident since the guy crossed the street outside of the crosswalk, so that will also probably play a role in reducing his sentence. Comparative negligence is a civil torts concept. So if the victim's wife sues Stallworth for wrongful death (which she almost certainly will), Stallworth can have the damage award reduced based on the percentage that the victim was "at fault" for the injury. I have never heard of a comparable law in the criminal realm and would be REALLY surprised if any state had such a law. So Stallworth is focked regardless of whether the victim was in or out of a crosswalk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,057 Posted April 2, 2009 DUI manslaughter is a second-degree felony that carries a minimum of four years to a maximum of 15 years in prison if convicted. Stallworth could plead to a lesser charge. If the prosecutor feels like they have an airtight case and want to make an example of Stallworth (which might well happen), then he is focked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NFLisGreat79 0 Posted April 2, 2009 Has anyone on this board rolled anyone over??????????????? Probably not, meaning we have just enough responsibilty for our own actions Once again throw his ass in jail!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Once again if I rolled someone over I'd be in jail first, ask questions later That is the problem with this country, money means freedom no matter what kind of crap you pull (OBVIOUS TO EVERYONE) Does this not bother anyone? Just go on with everyday business with someone else making decisions for you as long as you get you fantasy lineup in it's all good QFT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VaTerp 0 Posted April 3, 2009 Has anyone on this board rolled anyone over??????????????? Probably not, meaning we have just enough responsibilty for our own actions Once again throw his ass in jail!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Once again if I rolled someone over I'd be in jail first, ask questions later That is the problem with this country, money means freedom no matter what kind of crap you pull (OBVIOUS TO EVERYONE) Does this not bother anyone? Just go on with everyday business with someone else making decisions for you as long as you get you fantasy lineup in it's all good The more money you have, the better lawyers you can afford, the better off you are in a legal situation. Like it or not, thats the way its been in this country since our justice system was established. Why is there only outrage when an athlete is involved? Where is the outrage when executives who steal millions of dollars from others get slaps on the wrist? Where is the outrage when numerous women get away with offing their husbands b/c of trumped up charges of abuse? Where is the outrage when millions of poor non violent offenders in this country are locked up for years, where BTW they truly learn how to become criminals, for relatively minor things? I am so sick of hearing the "if that was you or me we's be in jail right now" line. That's complete BS. First of all, people saying this don't know other people's financial situations, what kind of lawyer they can afford to retain, who they know, or if they have any sort of criminal record. Secondly, people saying this are apparently ignorant to the the legal process that "regular" people go through. Most people, especially those that have a steady job and no prior criminal record, would be released after posting bail in this situation. In the end, Stallworth will do his time just like any other person involved in a similar situation with a similar record in a similar jurisdiction and with a similar. judge. If you're upset that money helps people get better treatment in the legal process then you're outrage should be directed MANY other places before you start worrying about pro athletes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phurfur 70 Posted April 3, 2009 If convicted, he will probably get 18 months at most, plus a fine etc. If he gets more than that, I will be surprised unless there are mandatory sentencing guidelines. This will cost him quite a bit of money as well, legal fees and civil suits etc. It will be interesting to see who spends more time in jail ultimately.... a guy who runs over a human while drunk or a guy who makes dogs fight to the death.... my money at this point says Vick ends up spending more time than Stallworth will in the end. One crime was intentional the other was not, do you get the difference here? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surferskin 30 Posted April 3, 2009 One crime was intentional the other was not, do you get the difference here? Maybe it wasn't "intentional" but getting drunk and killing someone makes you negligent. Do you really think what Vick did was worse? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
49ER MAN 0 Posted April 5, 2009 The more money you have, the better lawyers you can afford, the better off you are in a legal situation. Like it or not, thats the way its been in this country since our justice system was established. Why is there only outrage when an athlete is involved? Where is the outrage when executives who steal millions of dollars from others get slaps on the wrist? Where is the outrage when numerous women get away with offing their husbands b/c of trumped up charges of abuse? Where is the outrage when millions of poor non violent offenders in this country are locked up for years, where BTW they truly learn how to become criminals, for relatively minor things? I am so sick of hearing the "if that was you or me we's be in jail right now" line. That's complete BS. First of all, people saying this don't know other people's financial situations, what kind of lawyer they can afford to retain, who they know, or if they have any sort of criminal record. Secondly, people saying this are apparently ignorant to the the legal process that "regular" people go through. Most people, especially those that have a steady job and no prior criminal record, would be released after posting bail in this situation. In the end, Stallworth will do his time just like any other person involved in a similar situation with a similar record in a similar jurisdiction and with a similar. judge. If you're upset that money helps people get better treatment in the legal process then you're outrage should be directed MANY other places before you start worrying about pro athletes. I totally agree. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
truck bitch 0 Posted April 6, 2009 I think that was my entire point the more money you have the less jail time you will end up with I guess I wasn't clear enough The guy rolled him over, the guy died so if Stallworth rolls up with millions of dollars he walks sounds like OJ # 2 Call me an idiot or blond or whatever I think the majority of the board agrees with me now especially that he was found drunk and he was in a drug rehab program to boot So all my original calls were correct, throw him in jail and throw the key away and screw all you wannabe lawyers on this board that have Stallworth on your fantasy teams, go find another drugged up third string receiver your buddy truck ###### Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VaTerp 0 Posted April 6, 2009 I think that was my entire point the more money you have the less jail time you will end up with I guess I wasn't clear enough The guy rolled him over, the guy died so if Stallworth rolls up with millions of dollars he walks sounds like OJ # 2 Call me an idiot or blond or whatever I think the majority of the board agrees with me now especially that he was found drunk and he was in a drug rehab program to boot So all my original calls were correct, throw him in jail and throw the key away and screw all you wannabe lawyers on this board that have Stallworth on your fantasy teams, go find another drugged up third string receiver your buddy truck ###### First of all, I havent been stupid enough to even consider Stallworth on any of my FF teams in about 3 or 4 years. But it really isnt about him. Its about the fact that people continually beotch about athletes getting better treatment in the justice system and they dont know what the F they are talking about. It was clear that your point was about money which is a valid one. My point was that money has always helped people in legal matters and why is it that people like you only beotch about it when athletes are involved. OJ's case had to do with a multi million dollar legal team but also with Mark Furman and the reputation of the LAPD helping race play an issue, many questionable admissions by Judge Ito, and the prosecutors doing something really dumb in letting OJ handle physical evidence. That case is extremely unique and has NOTHING to do with Stallworth. Stallworth was released on bail which is common for a DUI manslaughter for a person with no felony record. The fact that he was in a NFL treatment program means nothing from a legal standpoint right now. But I guess ignorance is bliss and you don't really have to know what you're talking about to complain about something. So go ahead and keep beotchin, truck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites