tubby_mcgee 686 Posted July 10, 2009 Quote taken from this article: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4318529 "Family and friends were shocked at the news, describing Kazemi as a sweet girl who did not have it in her to kill someone. They also said she would not have wanted to kill herself." From what police and the autopsy are saying, she did have it in her to kill someoene, and she did want to kill herself. Family member that was quoted must have other theories. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kpbuckeye 2 Posted July 10, 2009 Quote taken from this article:http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4318529 "Family and friends were shocked at the news, describing Kazemi as a sweet girl who did not have it in her to kill someone. They also said she would not have wanted to kill herself." From what police and the autopsy are saying, she did have it in her to kill someoene, and she did want to kill herself. they are right, its a cover up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tubby_mcgee 686 Posted July 10, 2009 they are right, its a cover up. You think it might have been a double-suicide? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 588 Posted July 10, 2009 You think it might have been a double-suicide? yeah, most people who commit suicide shoot themselves four times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tubby_mcgee 686 Posted July 10, 2009 yeah, most people who commit suicide shoot themselves four times. Chest, Chest, Head, Head ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 588 Posted July 10, 2009 Chest, Chest, Head, Head ? please don't breed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tubby_mcgee 686 Posted July 10, 2009 please don't breed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,645 Posted July 10, 2009 yeah, most people who commit suicide shoot themselves four times. The OCDC types. - Like the guys who have to lock the door 50 times before they can go to bed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pimptastic69 0 Posted July 10, 2009 yeah, most people who commit suicide shoot themselves four times. Magic bullet theory? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,645 Posted July 10, 2009 I can understand why the family feels this way. The alternative is to accept that your daughter is a homicidal nutbag who then killed herself. - Not easy to swallow. But from the information the cops released, it sounds like she was planning this for a while. Sometimes the family is the last to know. I wonder if Steve ever woke up? Do we know the order of the shots? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted July 10, 2009 I can understand why the family feels this way. The alternative is to accept that your daughter is a homicidal nutbag who then killed herself. - Not easy to swallow. But from the information the cops released, it sounds like she was planning this for a while. Sometimes the family is the last to know. I wonder if Steve ever woke up? Do we know the order of the shots? I thought it was released something like right temple...chest, chest...left temple. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dain11279 928 Posted July 10, 2009 I can understand why the family feels this way. The alternative is to accept that your daughter is a homicidal nutbag who then killed herself. - Not easy to swallow. But from the information the cops released, it sounds like she was planning this for a while. Sometimes the family is the last to know. I wonder if Steve ever woke up? Do we know the order of the shots? I heard somewhere that it was right temple, chest, chest, left temple. For someone who was supposedly sleeping on a couch, this seems pretty odd. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,645 Posted July 10, 2009 I thought it was released something like right temple...chest, chest...left temple. Well, she was thorough. Good thing she used a pistol. McNair was pretty hard to take down with the shotgun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 588 Posted July 10, 2009 I heard somewhere that it was right temple, chest, chest, left temple. For someone who was supposedly sleeping on a couch, this seems pretty odd. yeah, the SOP for shooting someone while sleeping is through the forehead first, who really gives a ######. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 994 Posted July 10, 2009 I can understand why the family feels this way. The alternative is to accept that your daughter is a homicidal nutbag who then killed herself. - Not easy to swallow. Yep, my thoughts for sure. Of course you dont want to think she was a nutcase but it turns out she was. Looking at her pics we should just be happy she did not strap explosives to her chest and take out the entire hotel while going alalalalalalalalalalaalalalaal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bert 1,091 Posted July 10, 2009 There be a lot of lyin' and denyin' going on.... ~CFrank Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kpbuckeye 2 Posted July 10, 2009 You think it might have been a double-suicide? no, whitey took another sucessful black man out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bert 1,091 Posted July 10, 2009 no, whitey took another sucessful black man out. Successful??? Zero championships is successful? Must be the black QB definition of successful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kpbuckeye 2 Posted July 10, 2009 Successful??? Zero championships is successful? Must be the black QB definition of successful. AFC Championship, Co-MVP, multi millionaire. yea, he was pretty sucessful. whitey would be happy to have his numbers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bert 1,091 Posted July 10, 2009 AFC Championship, Co-MVP, multi millionaire. yea, he was pretty sucessful. That focktard Bud Adams has been selling this same sh!t calling his Oilers successful. All winning the AFL did for Adams and the oilers was allow them to claim they had failed at every level in the NFL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgcrawfish 232 Posted July 10, 2009 I thought it was released something like right temple...chest, chest...left temple. i was listening to a guy on the radio yesterday who had been through a police academy and he was remarking how difficult it is to hit exactly where you want to hit even from 3-5 ft away. He said that most guys in the academy were guys who had used guns for big chunks of their life and they would have problems hitting a target at the beginning because of the lack of aim. Actually easier to be 20 ft away and "aim" the gun than to just point it and shoot. they said 3 of the 4 shots were kill shots, that's pretty damned impressive especially for a 20 year old girl who had just gotten her 1st gun. I guess if she was standing next to him and put one in his temple then it's probably fairly easy to hit your spot, since he was sleeping, but it also seems to me that there would be a fair amount of blood spatter from that and from that close a range, an exit wound on the other side that would prevent most people from walking to the other side and shooting another slug into him. It also seems to me that it would be pretty easy to collect that evidence from a crime scene stand point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted July 10, 2009 Successful??? Zero championships is successful? Must be the black QB definition of successful. If you don't think he was successful...you are a complete idiot. He said he was a successful man...not player...not QB...but man. Even if he just said player...he would have been a successful one having a nice career. Marino was successful as a QB...did he win it all? Nope...but still was pretty damn good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,645 Posted July 10, 2009 http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4318529 Article on her last days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,645 Posted July 10, 2009 Ya know, it's ironic: Everybody was saying it was his knees that were shot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bert 1,091 Posted July 10, 2009 He said he was a successful man...not player...not QB...but man. First I was screwing around just like KP but since you want to get all serious. I guess your daddy focked around a lot on your momma for you to call him a successful man. He was a miserable failure as a man. Any man that chooses getting laid over his responsibility as a father is not a successful man. He betrayed his children and has screwed up their lives to satisfy his selfish desires. That is not the mark of a successful man. But hey to each his own but I don't equate being an alcoholic adulteress as being a successful man. Nice Article about McNair Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,645 Posted July 10, 2009 Until the police wrap up their investigation, I'm only willing to acknowledge four victims — McNair's four sons. I don't know how to classify the adults in this saga — McNair, his wife Mechelle or his 20-year-old girlfriend, Sahel "Jenny" Kazemi. The kids, they're victims of two horrific crimes: 1. the murder of their father; 2. their father's apparent abandonment so that he had time to wine, dine, vacation and shack up with his jump-off. This is the privilege of fame and inclusion in the boys club. We're so mentally diseased that we instinctively feel empathy and envy when we see a married father of four liquored up with his near-teenage girlfriend. Damn Whitlock! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thetxstang 0 Posted July 10, 2009 Well, she was thorough. Good thing she used a pistol. McNair was pretty hard to take down with the shotgun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgcrawfish 232 Posted July 10, 2009 As police chief Ronal Serpas said, "It will never be known exactly what was on Kazemi's mind early Saturday morning." This one is easy, same thing was on her mind that was on his... ...bullet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgcrawfish 232 Posted July 10, 2009 Damn Whitlock! guy calls it like he see it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites