LT/Sproles owners unite here

[fb4life 0]

Can already see the ankle injury to LT lingering throughout the season, if it's not that, probably something else. That said, Turner will still give LT playing time and if they're around the endzone my guess is he will be in. The weekly question, who are you rolling with on Sunday (and why?)

 

Feel free to post updates, links, opinions, etc. If you've successfully traded for these guys or traded them away what did you give up or get in return?

[fugoondo 3]

http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fantasyfo...ayerpage/235249

 

Sproles owner

 

he's my #4 though

 

If LT is out...im starting him.

 

if LT is in...i wouldnt start either of them

[JT 137]

They have an early bye...week 4 or 5. I expect them to bring Tomlinson along very slowly until then, in hopes that he can get right for the rest of the season.

 

I'm not going to panic...at least not yet.

[SuperSteelers 1]

Right now I have Sproles in the lineup and started them both in Week 1. If LT is healthy this week then I might consider starting them both again.

 

My RBs consist of LT, Hightower, L. White, M. Bush and Sproles.

 

Have been starting Sproles, Hightower and Bush...might consider doing that again.

[mambokings 0]

If Tomlinson is healthy - you play him. If Tomlinson is not healthy - you play Sproles. It's not very complicated

[fb4life 0]

If Tomlinson is healthy - you play him. If Tomlinson is not healthy - you play Sproles. It's not very complicated

 

Wow, thanks for the insight. I didn't realize "healthy" was such a black and white issue. It's not like anyone has ever played banged up before or not at 100%. You're wicked smart.

[Tony_Romo_Domination 0]

I am so glad I dont have to deal with th LT/sproles thing.

[Kaptain02 0]

I am so glad I dont have to deal with th LT/sproles thing.

 

As each day goes by my gut feeling is worse and worse with LT... I hope he proves me wrong because my RB's this year are wearing thin.

[steel827 2]

I'm assuming he is out until after the bye. Two more weeks to deal with this. I have CJ, Hightower, McCoy, Benson & Caddy to choose from. I'm thin at wide, but I'll walk the tightrope. If he is out this week there is no reason to bring him back for week 4 with a bye following.

 

I'm not a Sproles owner, but I'd be careful with him. He is explosive in the open field, but I haven't really seen him create his own space running the ball.

 

Good luck everybody

[Militia 0]

I have sproles and LT, and it's frustrating as hell. I would really prefer to deal them as a package, just to get rid of the headache. Anyone make a trade like this? What could I ask for? I mean, when they are good, they are really damn good, but it's a freaking headache.

[the spanker 28]

No headache here. In my PPR league Sproles get pts for return yards as well so Lt not playing doesn't affect his value much.

 

A sweet deal.

[Terpnut 5 0]

I have sproles and LT, and it's frustrating as hell. I would really prefer to deal them as a package, just to get rid of the headache. Anyone make a trade like this? What could I ask for? I mean, when they are good, they are really damn good, but it's a freaking headache.

 

Yeah, I thought about the same thing because my gut tells me this will be an ugly RBBC when LT hits the field hurting both players production from a fantasy perspective.

 

If LT is out I think Sproles is an easy every week start regardless of oponent because he's so involved in the passing game. He being the third down back really hurts LT's value when healthy. LT used to score a ton of points as the 3rd down back. It's not going to be a fun decision every week.

 

As for a trade, I thought about dealing LT for Slaton but then actually held off because I'm not sure about Slaton right now. I think if you can get someone like K. Smith, Barber, S. Jackson, Ronnie Brown, Ryan Grant you may consider it but I seriously doubt you can get anyone better (too much of a headache) and you may not even be able to get some of those guys. I'm considering trading one or both but it's tough because SD does have a good offense and plays in a week division and I'm just not sure how much value the two have. If I put any offers out I'll post the offer and owner reaction.

[fugoondo 3]

Just put in an offer of Sproles/Kevin Smith for Forte/McFadden

 

The Forte owner isnt starting him this week...so Im thinking he's given up on him already. Gonna sale high on Sproles and buy low on Forte.

 

Wish me luck....

 

Hate to lose Kevin Smith...but i think Forte turns it on now with their cake assss schedule and Cutler gunning the ball last week

[fb4life 0]

I have sproles and LT, and it's frustrating as hell. I would really prefer to deal them as a package, just to get rid of the headache. Anyone make a trade like this? What could I ask for? I mean, when they are good, they are really damn good, but it's a freaking headache.

 

Well here ya go. Sure enough the day I start this thread I trade both away. Traded Schaub/LT/Sproles for Brady/P. Thomas/Bush

 

Basically got rid of the Chargers RB mess for the Saints RB mess, but I do think I'm getting an upgrade at QB even if it doesn't look like it thru 2 weeks. I had LT last year and just don't want to deal with him anymore. I don't see LT sitting that much and think he and Sproles will split a ton. I already had Bell off the WW so now I have 3 Saints RBs to go along with Slaton. I'm hoping P. Thomas gets his chance with Bell hurting, reclaims the starting job, and never looks back. If neither of them step up I know Bush will at least get looks every game and can possibly put up decent RB2 numbers. Someone out of that group HAS to emerge. Also counting on Slaton to turn it on after facing two tough D's. If he doesn't then I might be okay starting two Saint RBs the way their offense is clicking. Haven't mentioned the fact that I have Colston. Here's my starting lineup now in a 12 team (1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 1K 1D):

 

Brady

Slaton

Thomas/Bush/Bell (flavor of the week)

Colston

Marshall or S. Smith (NYG)

Carlson

Tynes

Titans

 

Bottom line, wanted out of the LT situation even if meant getting into a different mess but got Brady out of the deal. Would you have done the trade? Now it looks like I need to start this same thread for the Saints RBs.

[Militia 0]

Well, that trade would be too much of a headache for me. Can't someone just give me something for nothing? haha. I offered Sproles and Tomlinson for Ronnie Brown, but I don't think it will happen. We will see! Tomlinson

[RLLD 4,230]

Sproles will end the year with better numbers than LT, he is the better option right now; the only real concern/issue is whether or not he can handle the NFL-level abuse that his little body will absorb. Charlie Garner, Webster Slaughter and Warrick Dunn could, but can Sproles?

[Sho Nuff 720]

I am so glad I dont have to deal with th LT/sproles thing.

 

I am so glad you keep telling us this each and every LT topic.

[Kaptain02 0]

I am so glad you keep telling us this each and every LT topic.

 

It's not looking good for us LT owners.

 

(Per Fanball)

 

09/24/2009 09:53 AM

THE NEWS

LaDainian Tomlinson (ankle) is unlikely to play in Week 3, according to the San Diego Union-Tribune.

OUR VIEW

Tomlinson was philosophical on Wednesday when asked about his chances of playing this Sunday, saying he does not need to rush back because of what Darren Sproles has been able to do so far this season. "I can get healthy," he added. "I don't have to just get to a certain percentage and then stay at that percentage all season." L.T.'s days as an elite fantasy back are clearly over.

[Sho Nuff 720]

It's not looking good for us LT owners.

 

(Per Fanball)

 

09/24/2009 09:53 AM

THE NEWS

LaDainian Tomlinson (ankle) is unlikely to play in Week 3, according to the San Diego Union-Tribune.

OUR VIEW

Tomlinson was philosophical on Wednesday when asked about his chances of playing this Sunday, saying he does not need to rush back because of what Darren Sproles has been able to do so far this season. "I can get healthy," he added. "I don't have to just get to a certain percentage and then stay at that percentage all season." L.T.'s days as an elite fantasy back are clearly over.

 

Nope...not good this week.

But I did not draft him to be an elite back...just to be a serviceable back for my team.

When healthy, he will get plenty of opportunity in that offense to still be a top 15 back with a good chance at top 10.

[KSB2424 3,148]

But I did not draft him to be an elite back...just to be a serviceable back for my team.

What round did you nab him in?

[Sho Nuff 720]

What round did you nab him in?

 

First...9th pick.

Not much elite left.

I drafted him with the hope he even produces like last year.

[BunnysBastatrds 2,440]

I drafted LT with my second pick, picking from the eleven spot in a twelve teamer. Every year he starts off slow for whatever reasons and I should have passed on him. This ankle injury may be a good thing (glass haf full). Hopefully he will be fresh toward the end of the season and I can rely on him to get me to the playoffs. I took to many chances on RB's this year. LT, Rice, Pierre Thomas, McCoy, and Caddy. I'll be going Rice and McCoy this week.

[Kaptain02 0]

I drafted LT with my second pick, picking from the eleven spot in a twelve teamer. Every year he starts off slow for whatever reasons and I should have passed on him. This ankle injury may be a good thing (glass haf full). Hopefully he will be fresh toward the end of the season and I can rely on him to get me to the playoffs. I took to many chances on RB's this year. LT, Rice, Pierre Thomas, McCoy, and Caddy. I'll be going Rice and McCoy this week.

 

I grabbed him 8th in a 10 team league... Could of had D. Williams but wasn't confident in him at all, definitely regretting that decision now - UGH!

 

It looks like I'll be putting in McCoy this week too.

[surferskin 30]

Nope...not good this week.

But I did not draft him to be an elite back...just to be a serviceable back for my team.

When healthy, he will get plenty of opportunity in that offense to still be a top 15 back with a good chance at top 10.

 

What round did you nab him in?

First

 

[JakeTrain72 0]

I think the biggest issue LT owners are faced with is getting rid of the perception LT is fantasy gold. He's one of the best players in fantasy football history but in 2009, right now...he's RB2. If you have Sproles, you shouldn't be having headaches at night. You know the guy is a flex play option every week and if LT is hurt you got a nice RB2. The only confusing thing to me is why everyone thinks LT is still a RB1 as we head into week 3. Doesn't matter where you drafted him or how much money you spent on him, the guy isn't an elite fantasy RB anymore so when you go to set your lineup, stop seeing the name Tomlinson and start seeing RB2.

 

I'd also trade for Sproles whenever possible. The chances LT is healthy at the end of the season are not high, meaning Sproles could be huge come fantasy playoff time.

[Sho Nuff 720]

What round did you nab him in?

 

First

 

About what I would expect from you.

 

Oh...and I took him first overall last year...still one the league even with his disappointing season.

[mambokings 0]

What round did you nab him in?

 

First

 

Late 1st round was considered a safe place to draft LT so there's no reason to pound someone who did so. He was 100% healthy coming into the year, motivated, and the Chargers offense looked poised for big numbers in 2009. He did get hurt last year but still played all his games. It was worth a chance, particularly drafting at the end of the 1st round. If you want to give current LT owners a at least have it be for not getting Sproles. No matter where people drafted LT, not getting Sproles is a if ever there was one.

[jerryskids 6,797]

Late 1st round was considered a safe place to draft LT so there's no reason to pound someone who did so. He was 100% healthy coming into the year, motivated, and the Chargers offense looked poised for big numbers in 2009. He did get hurt last year but still played all his games. It was worth a chance, particularly drafting at the end of the 1st round. If you want to give current LT owners a at least have it be for not getting Sproles. No matter where people drafted LT, not getting Sproles is a if ever there was one.

To be clear, your position is that it was OK to draft LT late in the first, and if so you were stoopid if you didn't draft Sproles in, say, the 8th/9th as a handcuff, and if you did you would be in a good position sitting here wondering who to start in week 3?

[mambokings 0]

To be clear, your position is that it was OK to draft LT late in the first, and if so you were stoopid if you didn't draft Sproles in, say, the 8th/9th as a handcuff, and if you did you would be in a good position sitting here wondering who to start in week 3?

You're correct, right until the point you think any confusion exists as to who to start. As I said above, it's not rocket science: if LT is healthy, you start LT, if he is not healthy, you start Sproles. Since LT is NOT currently healthy, who do you think should start?

[surferskin 30]

Late 1st round was considered a safe place to draft LT so there's no reason to pound someone who did so.

I just thought it was funny that he claimed he didn't expect LT to be an elite back but still drafted in him the first round. Me thinks he passed on an elite back to take LT's old broken down ass.

[mambokings 0]

I just thought it was funny that he claimed he didn't expect LT to be an elite back but still drafted in him the first round. Me thinks he passed on an elite back to take LT's old broken down ass.

Yeah, it's a bit odd that he claims not to have expected elite numbers from a 1st round draft pick...maybe he expected elite numbers from a 9th round sleeper?

[jerryskids 6,797]

You're correct, right until the point you think any confusion exists as to who to start. As I said above, it's not rocket science: if LT is healthy, you start LT, if he is not healthy, you start Sproles. Since LT is NOT currently healthy, who do you think should start?

I don't live in your pretend black and white binary world, so my answer is: whoever on my roster maximizes my opportunity of winning, which may or may not be LT or Sproles given the grayness of the situation.

 

For the record, I own neither of these guys, I just continue to laugh at people who say drafting LT in the first and Sproles in the mid rounds, and dealing with this kinda shiot which should have been expected, is an easy decision.

[mambokings 0]

I don't live in your pretend black and white binary world

I.will.set.up.you.the.bomb.

 

You.have.no.chance.to.survive.make.your.time.

 

Ha. Ha. Ha.

[GridIronAssassin#1 0]

I didn't draft a runningback until the 5th round. Runningbacks are a dime a dozen, so I went with recievers. I have Sproles from the waiver wire right after week one. Played Sproles in week 2 and will play him in week 3. I'm not sure about the the week 4 Pittsburgh matchup in Pittsburgh though.

 

My 2 starting backs in week 3 are Sproles & Kevin Smith going against Adrian & McFadden (he's benching Slaton). With the injury concerns to AP, I actually have a chance of scoring more points here.

[Acerun 0]

I didn't draft a runningback until the 5th round. Runningbacks are a dime a dozen, so I went with recievers. I have Sproles from the waiver wire right after week one. Played Sproles in week 2 and will play him in week 3. I'm not sure about the the week 4 Pittsburgh matchup in Pittsburgh though.

 

My 2 starting backs in week 3 are Sproles & Kevin Smith going against Adrian & McFadden (he's benching Slaton). With the injury concerns to AP, I actually have a chance of scoring more points here.

 

 

Out of curiousity what are your wr match ups against this team?

[GridIronAssassin#1 0]

Out of curiousity what are your wr match ups against this team?

 

I've got Moss, Wayne, and Andre Johnson going against his Roy Williams, Greg Jennings, and Deshaun Jackson.

 

Obviously he's got good matchups this week with Greg Jennings against St. Louis and due to come back this week, and Roy Williams on Monday night against a medicre Carolina defense, and a somewhat suspect Deshaun Jackson ( 100% healthy??). Anyways, Philly will run to kill KC, no need to pass.

[Sho Nuff 720]

To be clear, your position is that it was OK to draft LT late in the first, and if so you were stoopid if you didn't draft Sproles in, say, the 8th/9th as a handcuff, and if you did you would be in a good position sitting here wondering who to start in week 3?

 

Nah...its easy, I sit LT for Caddy right now.

[Sho Nuff 720]

I just thought it was funny that he claimed he didn't expect LT to be an elite back but still drafted in him the first round. Me thinks he passed on an elite back to take LT's old broken down ass.

 

I think its funny that you think backs after the first 5-6 are really elite.

Sorry, the choice between LT, S. Jackson, and Jacobs...none are really elite right now. Jackson might be the most elite talent right now, but on that team, with his own injuries, it was not quite what I was looking for.

I was looking for a basic lock for the 1200 and 12 TDs or so that LT will likely give me by season's end.

[surferskin 30]

I think its funny that you think backs after the first 5-6 are really elite.

Sorry, the choice between LT, S. Jackson, and Jacobs...none are really elite right now. Jackson might be the most elite talent right now, but on that team, with his own injuries, it was not quite what I was looking for.

I was looking for a basic lock for the 1200 and 12 TDs or so that LT will likely give me by season's end.

Were the 1st 8 picks in your draft RB's? I doubt it. That means your prolly passed on Gore or maybe a Chris Johnson. I know one thing, when I draft a player in the first round, I definitely draft them to be more than serviceable.

[Sho Nuff 720]

Were the 1st 8 picks in your draft RB's? I doubt it. That means your prolly passed on Gore or maybe a Chris Johnson. I know one thing, when I draft a player in the first round, I definitely draft them to be more than serviceable.

 

The first 12 picks were RBs.

I wanted Gore...he went ahead of me. Johnson went already too.

 

Nice try though.