NewbieJr 541 Posted December 30, 2009 Well, apparently Pro Bowl voters also agree that Rodgers >>>>>>Romo. Maybe next year, Tony. Keep going on vacations and golfing instead of practicing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted December 30, 2009 So lets see... 2 different polls on two different fantasy websites. Fan votes + Player votes + coaches votes. And all say Rodgers > Romo. Yet some here insist this cross section on this site was no good...that it was all Romo/Cowboys haters that voted against Romo...that there was "ballot tampering" (of course that accusation only came after a certain Cowboys fan was rightfully accused of using his multiple accounts to stack votes for Romo)...and that the intelligent fan knows Romo is better. Funny how every indication goes to Rodgers, yet some 'boys' fans still can't come to grips with that reality. (yes, I know pro bowl voting is no indicator for this...but that one fan tried using it as how he rates QBs...he will now deny it...too funny) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Foghorn Leghorn 0 Posted December 30, 2009 Well, apparently Pro Bowl voters also agree that Rodgers >>>>>>Romo. Maybe next year, Tony. Keep going on vacations and golfing instead of practicing. How could this have possibly been a fair vote, if voters' aliases were not allowed to vote? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted December 30, 2009 How could this have possibly been a fair vote, if voters' aliases were not allowed to vote? Well...im sure ol Pimp was going crazy voting for all Cowboys as much as he possibly could. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Busted by the Feds 9 Posted December 30, 2009 Wow, first Tiger boinks Jessica behind Romo's back, now no Pro Bowl too ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
49ers_suck 0 Posted December 30, 2009 you guys are as bad as pimp. seriously, this is lame. and Rodgers is WAY overhyped right now. just like with Romo, when came in as a starter and was lightin it up. maybe you should wait till he does something to annoint him? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted December 30, 2009 you guys are as bad as pimp. seriously, this is lame. and Rodgers is WAY overhyped right now. just like with Romo, when came in as a starter and was lightin it up. maybe you should wait till he does something to annoint him? Way overhyped? Because people are combatting your team's #1 "fan" with threads like this? I think so far in his career he has played well enough to annoint him for what he is. A very solid QB who still has a lot to prove come postseason. Nobody has said he is anything more. You are just like pimp...butt hurt that people think more of Rodgers than Romo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walter34 3 Posted December 30, 2009 You guys are just as much of a dipsh!t as the guy you are always arguing with. Don't try and take the high road, you are just as bad and just as much of board troll as he is. You will always have board idiots and trolls like pimp and sweetness, but its idiots like you who feed them and keep the crap on page 1. Congrats to Rodgers - well deserved. Try taking a look at Romo's numbers at the same time and see that they are pretty damn close to each other. The only qb selection controversy is in the AFC where Brady should have never got in over Schaub. After that, Romo is the next best guy not to make it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,996 Posted December 30, 2009 So lets see...2 different polls on two different fantasy websites. Fan votes + Player votes + coaches votes. And all say Rodgers > Romo. Yet some here insist this cross section on this site was no good...that it was all Romo/Cowboys haters that voted against Romo...that there was "ballot tampering" (of course that accusation only came after a certain Cowboys fan was rightfully accused of using his multiple accounts to stack votes for Romo)...and that the intelligent fan knows Romo is better. Funny how every indication goes to Rodgers, yet some 'boys' fans still can't come to grips with that reality. (yes, I know pro bowl voting is no indicator for this...but that one fan tried using it as how he rates QBs...he will now deny it...too funny) Funny how it is YOU are the one who can't seem to let it go. Is Rodgers better? Maybe, maybe not. What we do know for sure is that the separation between the two (at this point and time) is minimal - in either direction. Rodgers: 63.9% Pct - 4199 yards - 29 tds - 7 ints - 102.4 qb rating. Romo: 62.6 Pct - 4172 - 28 tds - 8 ints - 97.0 qb rating. * For the year Rodgers (gb's) opponents are 94-131. Romo (dal) opponents are 109-116. * Rodgers is 1-3 against playoff bound teams, Romo is 2-2. * Rodgers' biggest road win was against Chicago (6-9) - Romo had two, Philly (11-4) and NO (13-2). * Neither has a playoff victory to date. * This will be Rodgers first year leading his team to a post season game, no Division titles. Will be Romo's 3rd time, with a potential 2nd Division title. * Rodgers did beat Romo and Dallas, was a big win. It really gets crazy, and hard to say with a straight face, one of these guys is heads and shoulders better than the other. Time will tell, but right now they are 6 in one hand and half a dozen in the other. Fans of each will gladly take their own guy - and wouldn't be wrong for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,996 Posted December 30, 2009 You guys are just as much of a dipsh!t as the guy you are always arguing with. Don't try and take the high road, you are just as bad and just as much of board troll as he is. You will always have board idiots and trolls like pimp and sweetness, but its idiots like you who feed them and keep the crap on page 1. Congrats to Rodgers - well deserved. Try taking a look at Romo's numbers at the same time and see that they are pretty damn close to each other. The only qb selection controversy is in the AFC where Brady should have never got in over Schaub. After that, Romo is the next best guy not to make it. Agreed, and well said. Newbie actually told me if/when in a serious thread he would gladly discuss things rationally. Then he goes and does this....but whatever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted December 30, 2009 Funny how it is YOU are the one who can't seem to let it go. Is Rodgers better? Maybe, maybe not. What we do know for sure is that the separation between the two (at this point and time) is minimal - in either direction. Rodgers: 63.9% Pct - 4199 yards - 29 tds - 7 ints - 102.4 qb rating. Romo: 62.6 Pct - 4172 - 28 tds - 8 ints - 97.0 qb rating. * For the year Rodgers (gb's) opponents are 94-131. Romo (dal) opponents are 109-116. * Rodgers is 1-3 against playoff bound teams, Romo is 2-2. * Rodgers' biggest road win was against Chicago (6-9) - Romo had two, Philly (11-4) and NO (13-2). * Neither has a playoff victory to date. * This will be Rodgers first year leading his team to a post season game, no Division titles. Will be Romo's 3rd time, with a potential 2nd Division title. * Rodgers did beat Romo and Dallas, was a big win. It really gets crazy, and hard to say with a straight face, one of these guys is heads and shoulders better than the other. Time will tell, but right now they are 6 in one hand and half a dozen in the other. Fans of each will gladly take their own guy - and wouldn't be wrong for it. Oh, I can let it go just fine. Its just funny to rib the board's biggest troll and shove his own words back in his face. Im not saying he is heads and shoulders above him...but I would never want Romo over Rodgers...not sure any Packer fan you could find would. I bet there are Cowboys fans though that would gladly trade Romo for Rodgers right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,996 Posted December 30, 2009 I bet there are Cowboys fans though that would gladly trade Romo for Rodgers right now. I'm not sure how many Cowboys fans you know, or how much time you've spent down here - but good luck with that right now finding any who'd want Rodgers over him. Again, Rodgers #'s are great and he's very deserving of the PB. But when you size of his body of work and who he's done it against, his biggest road wins, and Romo's terrific December run - be hard to do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted December 30, 2009 Agreed, and well said. Newbie actually told me if/when in a serious thread he would gladly discuss things rationally. Then he goes and does this....but whatever. Dude, I have a very serious and legitimate Cowboys/Eagles thread started which has created a lot of great football discussion. If you're too blind to see that this was intended for that little retarded, mom's basement dwelling, jackoff with twenty lame aliases, then I don't know what to tell you. Unlike you or sirensong, that little cvntface will be here acting like a total asspipe if Dallas wins Sunday and will disappear if they lose. He did the same thing last year when Philly crushed Dallas. He loves to try to shove Tony Romo down everyone's throat so I thought I'd point out that the boy he constantly claims s inferior to Romo was voted to the Pro Bowl over him. As is his trend, he's totally avoided the thread. Maybe his mom took away his computer because his room was messy. Who knows? As for who's really better, who knows. Neither has ever won a playoff game and both put up impressive numbers and have great talent around them. Seems about even to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,996 Posted December 30, 2009 Dude, I have a very serious and legitimate Cowboys/Eagles thread started which has created a lot of great football discussion. If you're too blind to see that this was intended for that little retarded, mom's basement dwelling, jackoff with twenty lame aliases, then I don't know what to tell you. Unlike you or sirensong, that little cvntface will be here acting like a total asspipe if Dallas wins Sunday and will disappear if they lose. He did the same thing last year when Philly crushed Dallas. He loves to try to shove Tony Romo down everyone's throat so I thought I'd point out that the boy he constantly claims s inferior to Romo was voted to the Pro Bowl over him. As is his trend, he's totally avoided the thread. Maybe his mom took away his computer because his room was messy. Who knows? As for who's really better, who knows. Neither has ever won a playoff game and both put up impressive numbers and have great talent around them. Seems about even to me. I kind a know what you mean. MDC is pretty much the equivilant to this on the Iggs side. Used to be Yoda the Pug many moons back - but he welched on a bet (too) and disappeared from the board. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
donhaas 19 Posted December 30, 2009 * Rodgers is 1-3 against playoff bound teams, Romo is 2-2. Useless cherry-picked stat.... Romo threw two whole touchdowns in these two victories.... his team won these games; not Romo.... Means nothing for Pro-Bowl selection 2009 * Rodgers' biggest road win was against Chicago (6-9) - Romo had two, Philly (11-4) and NO (13-2). See first one. Who cares what the biggest road win? Why not choose the biggest win against a team starting with the letter "P"? Again, Rodgers had awesome games against Minn and Pitt and did more than enough to win racking up all kinds of offensive yards and points for his team. That the Packer defense was by far worse than the Dallas defense in those games is the dumbest reason for Romo > Rodgers Pro Bowl selection * Neither has a playoff victory to date. Yeah.... Rodgers has only played one season -- his rookie season....We have yet to see how he will do in the playoffs (but will this year) Romo has choked several times in the playoffs, yes... but none of this should have anything to do with Pro Bowl 2009 selection * This will be Rodgers first year leading his team to a post season game, no Division titles. Will be Romo's 3rd time, with a potential 2nd Division title. See last one, please * Rodgers did beat Romo and Dallas, was a big win. Here you have something.... actual head-to-head competition with comparable defenses (Cowboys are actually better.... so Romo has an advantage in this match-up) Romo was completely dominated (save for garbagetime stats after the game was over)..... Rodgers scored 2 TDs and led his team to an impressive victory Again, I like Romo a lot.... it's just his fans that are a bit silly.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remote controller 143 Posted December 30, 2009 So lets see...2 different polls on two different fantasy websites. Fan votes + Player votes + coaches votes. And all say Rodgers > Romo. Yet some here insist this cross section on this site was no good...that it was all Romo/Cowboys haters that voted against Romo...that there was "ballot tampering" (of course that accusation only came after a certain Cowboys fan was rightfully accused of using his multiple accounts to stack votes for Romo)...and that the intelligent fan knows Romo is better. Funny how every indication goes to Rodgers, yet some 'boys' fans still can't come to grips with that reality. (yes, I know pro bowl voting is no indicator for this...but that one fan tried using it as how he rates QBs...he will now deny it...too funny) Even Romo's best year yet doesn't qualify him for this years squad. What an unbelievable year of QB play. I am very happy for Romo though, because he seems to always be the fall guy for the 'boys! Rodgers clearly earned his spot on the 2009 squad! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remote controller 143 Posted December 30, 2009 You guys are just as much of a dipsh!t as the guy you are always arguing with. Don't try and take the high road, you are just as bad and just as much of board troll as he is. You will always have board idiots and trolls like pimp and sweetness, but its idiots like you who feed them and keep the crap on page 1. Congrats to Rodgers - well deserved. Try taking a look at Romo's numbers at the same time and see that they are pretty damn close to each other. The only qb selection controversy is in the AFC where Brady should have never got in over Schaub. After that, Romo is the next best guy not to make it. I had Ben over schaub but agree with you almost completely on your whole post! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walter34 3 Posted December 30, 2009 I had Benn over schaub but agree with you almost completely on your whole post! Outside of the 500 yd game, Ben's numbers and the steelers record is a bit inferior to the other contenders. Not saying he isnt a better qb overall, but that this season he has been worse. Schaub - 4467 - 27 - 14 (Other than AJ, no other quality offensive input) Brady - 4212 - 28 - 12 (Moss and Welker to assist) Roth - 4108 - 23 - 12 (Arguably the most support from a talent perspective) I would rank them as above fpor this year Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,996 Posted December 30, 2009 Useless cherry-picked stat.... Romo threw two whole touchdowns in these two victories.... his team won these games; not Romo.... Means nothing for Pro-Bowl selection 2009 Who is making a case for/against Rodgers making the PB? I've said along he was deserving. Point of all of this, which is obviouisly beyond your comprehension, is to suggest both these guys are one in the same - with neither being signicantly head and shoulders above the other. Who cares what the biggest road win? Why not choose the biggest win against a team starting with the letter "P"? Really? Well, you are in the minority then, and ahead of the curve of the guys (most former players, some hof'ers) paid millions to comentate on football.... Why even count playoff games then? Did I say wow yet? ....We have yet to see how he will do in the playoffs (but will this year) Romo has choked several times in the playoffs, yes... This is what makes it brutally difficult to take you serious. In fact, after this, I'm not. But you really have no idea what you are talking about - in fact, are talking out of both ends of your ass. On one hand you want to pump up and not discredit Rodgers' losses to Minny and Pitt of whomever was a big game of importance. You say it wasn't his fault bcoz he played great and well enough to win - wasn't his fault. K, agreed - good point. Where you blow it is that you want to apply the opposite logic to Romo and his playoff failures. Yes, he played poorly in the NYG game, still was put the ball in Crayton's hands twice to win the game and Patrick dropped them. And then, the Seahawks game (whick you obviously didn't watch or remember) Romo was really good. Had his team up in the 4th, then Glenn fumbled for a safety and the Hawks took the short free kick in for a following td. Even still Romo marched the Boys down for a go-head fg before he botched the snap. Again, you give me tired head - I'm out. Just go back if you care and try and grasp the gist behind my post. Nobody was/is suggesting Rodgers wasn't deserving - or better. He may very well be - time will tell. But for right now both are pretty close to equal and can't go wrong with either on your team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remote controller 143 Posted December 30, 2009 Outside of the 500 yd game, Ben's numbers and the steelers record is a bit inferior to the other contenders. Not saying he isnt a better qb overall, but that this season he has been worse. Schaub - 4467 - 27 - 14 (Other than AJ, no other quality offensive input) Brady - 4212 - 28 - 12 (Moss and Welker to assist) Roth - 4108 - 23 - 12 (Arguably the most support from a talent perspective) I would rank them as above fpor this year That 500 coming against a top rated defence, in a must game (inserted the "c" in your honor) is what put him over the top in my opinion. Schaub has amassed all of his stats in one half of each game. He can't figure out how to put together 4 qtrs.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
donhaas 19 Posted December 30, 2009 But for right now both are pretty close to equal and can't go wrong with either on your team. Totally agree... Your starred points -- as they relate to the thread we are currently in titled "Congrats to Brees, Favre, and Rodgers- PRO BOWL SELECTIONS, Sorry Romo. No pretty-boys allowed" -- were poor If you want to start a thread where Romo > Rodgers because he has been around longer, has played more games, has had more opportunities, is older, his team is better, or his team has performed better in your cherry-picked games (although Romo personally performed much worse).... feel free to do that.... But this thread is about Rodgers making the pro bowl this season and tauntingly (which I don't agree with because I like Romo) about a certain Cowboy QB not being selected.... Romo throwing two whole touchdown passes in games against NO and PHI and his team around him playing magnificently has absolutely nothing to do with pro bowl selections.... HTH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gtthom86 5 Posted December 30, 2009 Using the pro-bowl to determine if one of two players is better than the other is worthless. There are glaring snubs every year, and always guys that do not deserve it but for their reputation. It boils down to a name recognition/popularity contest and anyone that uses it to try and prove a point should probably just be quiet. For example, Jason Peters had an incredibly bad year last year for the bills, by far his worst as a pro - yet he makes the probowl. why? his name. He made it again this year, though I haven't watched enough eagles games to judge his play. YOu just can;t use probowl births to win arguments like this one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phurfur 70 Posted December 30, 2009 I'm not sure how many Cowboys fans you know, or how much time you've spent down here - but good luck with that right now finding any who'd want Rodgers over him. Again, Rodgers #'s are great and he's very deserving of the PB. But when you size of his body of work and who he's done it against, his biggest road wins, and Romo's terrific December run - be hard to do. 2-2 in December, I'm impressed! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted December 30, 2009 2-2 in December, I'm impressed! Yeah, but one of the wins was against the Redskins. Let's not sell him short. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PsychoBelichickFan 0 Posted December 30, 2009 Well, apparently Pro Bowl voters also agree that Rodgers >>>>>>Romo. Maybe next year, Tony. Keep going on vacations and golfing instead of practicing. the regular season stat padder gets a pro bowl........wow.........regular season means nothing......erin rodgers is a stat padder......one and done baby one and freakin done Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PsychoBelichickFan 0 Posted December 30, 2009 2-2 in December, I'm impressed! rodgers can have his probowl......romo has been there done that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PsychoBelichickFan 0 Posted December 30, 2009 you guys are as bad as pimp. seriously, this is lame. and Rodgers is WAY overhyped right now. just like with Romo, when came in as a starter and was lightin it up. maybe you should wait till he does something to annoint him? erin rodgers has been in the nfl five years and he finally got a 2nd string probowl nod behing brees. COngrats........you are on the bench watchin brees ..........wow.....like said.........five years zero playoff wins ...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted December 30, 2009 the regular season stat padder gets a pro bowl........wow.........regular season means nothing......erin rodgers is a stat padder......one and done baby one and freakin done Funny...the other day you were using Pro Bowl voting as a reason to rate Romo higher. Now? Not so much huh? One and done...if anyone has been a one and done stat padder...its been Romo. Nice try Pimp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted December 30, 2009 erin rodgers has been in the nfl five years and he finally got a 2nd string probowl nod behing brees. COngrats........you are on the bench watchin brees ..........wow.....like said.........five years zero playoff wins ...... Keep using that 5 years thing...its pretty funny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blue_Star_Wrecking_Crew 0 Posted December 30, 2009 i thought you dropped it?????? guess not Romo had a better year than rodgers IMO....just saying.......he is a better team leader and had a better december with more quality wins. Rodgers played 10 games against weak teams....and the voters reward him? wow...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted December 30, 2009 Romo had a better year than rodgers IMO....just saying.......he is a better team leader and had a better december with more quality wins. Rodgers played 10 games against weak teams....and the voters reward him? wow...... They rewarded him based on his overall body of work and being pretty consistent all year long. Oh...and beating Romo's team head to head when they played did not hurt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted December 30, 2009 Oh...and beating Romo's team head to head when they played did not hurt. FACE! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blue_Star_Wrecking_Crew 0 Posted December 30, 2009 FACE! you crack me up. You have a thread calling romo a pretty boy. You are on record as saying tony romo is a good looking man. I didnt know you rolled like that.......gives the city of brotherly love new meaning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted December 30, 2009 you crack me up. You have a thread calling romo a pretty boy. You are on record as saying tony romo is a good looking man. I didnt know you rolled like that.......gives the city of brotherly love new meaning. Wait...so he criticizes Romo...yet you think he and you...I mean psycho bill are the same? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blue_Star_Wrecking_Crew 0 Posted December 30, 2009 Wait...so he criticizes Romo...yet you think he and you...I mean psycho bill are the same? He just gave himself up .........he slipped and called romo pretty in the sub title of this thread....dude is bill......... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted December 30, 2009 He just gave himself up .........he slipped and called romo pretty in the sub title of this thread....dude is bill......... Seriously...why deny it...just embrace the fact that you have a ton of accounts and are as transparent as the panties your momma wears while working the poll at the club. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joey Gladstone 33 Posted December 31, 2009 the regular season stat padder gets a pro bowl........wow.........regular season means nothing......erin rodgers is a stat padder......one and done baby one and freakin done Wait a minute assclown...weren't you boasting up Romo's Pro Bowl appearances just a few days ago? You're too focking much Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remote controller 143 Posted December 31, 2009 Wait a minute assclown...weren't you boasting up Romo's Pro Bowl appearances just a few days ago? You're too focking much we need to quit feeding the twerps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joey Gladstone 33 Posted December 31, 2009 we need to quit feeding the twerps. No, you're right. I'm done. His mere presence on this board contains enough self-mockery. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remote controller 143 Posted December 31, 2009 No, you're right. I'm done. His mere presence on this board contains enough self-mockery. These are the dudes we've learned to use as a cheap form of entertainment! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites