cbfalcon 825 Posted November 3, 2010 I think you do a good job of organizing. We just have some pretty high maintenance owners in this league. Agree. I make fun of Edjr, but I haven;t had any problems with the organization. We need a more extensive list of rules that covers tanking games, incomplete rosters, any deadline, any rules regarding voting for changes (what can and can't be voted on, what % is required to change a setting, when and who can raise topics to be voted on, etc etc). I don't want to play with owners that need to be given rules on tanking. Tanking is cheating. And Incomplete rosters are a case by case thing, but if someone cares so little that they are willing to go weeks and weeks without a complete lineup, then they don't care enough about the league to be an owner IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbfalcon 825 Posted November 3, 2010 If anyone cares... here's a exert out of the constitution I wrote for my league 5 years ago, for this exact situation. G. Roger Goodell Rule: 1. No Manager shall take actions to intentionally lose games or points. These actions include, but are not limited to: Leaving Starting Roster positions empty. Benching top players. Releasing top players to Waiver Wire. Collusion: Managers taking collaborated actions to improve a team at the expense of another. 2. Any Manager(s) judged to be partaking in such actions will get last pick of the following year’s draft. 3. The Commissioner will have final rule in matters of fair play. I want owners that view all those rules as givens. When I got married, it wasn't stated in my vows that I couldn't punch my wife in the stomach. Yet I usually don't do it. Because it's a given. HTH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IAMWood 6 Posted November 3, 2010 I think you do a good job of organizing. We just have some pretty high maintenance owners in this league. My only problem is we don't seem to have a very good set of rules. We have a pinned thread that explains the waiver wire and playoff's, that's it. We need a more extensive list of rules that covers tanking games, incomplete rosters, any deadline, any rules regarding voting for changes (what can and can't be voted on, what % is required to change a setting, when and who can raise topics to be voted on, etc etc). We can't punish BLS for not playing a QB, because we don't have a rule stating it's illegal! Just my .02 Ed does a horrible job of organizing, wishy washy vague comments galore. Yeah, we need better set of rules, see comment above. We all are savvy fantasy players, I would guess 150 years or more worth of playing across the league, been 22 for me, rules like you are talking about as far as tanking games is not needed for fantasy vets like us, they go without saying. It is very hard to write a rule for every single thing that could possibly happen, that's where the commish comes in. Yeah, we can punish bls for not playing a QB, it's not too much to ask to be competitive, if it is, we can find another owner or ask for help. I agree with CB, I hate to kick anyone out, but if they are dismissive when asked to be competitive, what can you do? bls doesn't care, he has made that very clear. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,580 Posted November 3, 2010 $$$ needs to transfer to commish since the commish hasn't been paying fees. I really don't agree with commish not paying fees but no one else seemed to care, but you aren't skating out paying fees and not being commish, not that you are much of one anyway. If you aren't going to commish you need to send all excess quitter fees to new commish. Untrue. I paid $50 last year, I didn't the 1st year (I think). I have no problem paying and I planned on paying this year. http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=366057&st=0&p=4264192&hl=money&fromsearch=1entry4264192 Payouts $10 for high team each week and $5 for high player $25 3 division winners -$250 Winner -$105 2nd place $625 total divided by 12 = $52 minus ~sticks $25 quitter fee that's 600 X 12 = 50 per team. You guys wonder why I hate running this league Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IAMWood 6 Posted November 3, 2010 Untrue. I paid $50 last year, I didn't the 1st year (I think). I have no problem paying and I planned on paying this year. http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=366057&st=0&p=4264192&hl=money&fromsearch=1entry4264192 Payouts $10 for high team each week and $5 for high player $25 3 division winners -$250 Winner -$105 2nd place $625 total divided by 12 = $52 minus ~sticks $25 quitter fee that's 600 X 12 = 50 per team. You guys wonder why I hate running this league Tell it all, it's okay. $50 per team + $10 per team for the website. So you get $110 extra for the website that costs $60, wow, there is $50 left over, funny how you didn't mention that. It's not that hard dude, not clear why you hate it, because we ask you to do some basic commish duties. I really don't think it's too much to ask, since you play for free. Shouldn't be too much to ask even if you did contribute $$$. If you don't want to commish, no big deal, if you hate it, please don't, I know I could do a better job. I would guess others could also. It's not that hard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gocolts 300 Posted November 3, 2010 Sux would take over since BLS doesn't want to play anymore. I even mentioned this debacle to him on the phone the other night, I think he is just waiting for the go ahead. I wish IAMWOOD would complain more. I miss the passion. Seems like this league is losing a little more all the time. I for one never considered IAMWOOD a whiny b1tch. He brought up a lot of good points. So chime in all you want man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,580 Posted November 4, 2010 Tell it all, it's okay. $50 per team + $10 per team for the website. So you get $110 extra for the website that costs $60, wow, there is $50 left over, funny how you didn't mention that. It's not that hard dude, not clear why you hate it, because we ask you to do some basic commish duties. I really don't think it's too much to ask, since you play for free. Shouldn't be too much to ask even if you did contribute $$$. If you don't want to commish, no big deal, if you hate it, please don't, I know I could do a better job. I would guess others could also. It's not that hard. hey assfock, it was $55 per team. suck it down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yostevo 0 Posted November 4, 2010 Ouch It's nothing personal Ed. Someone mentioned we have high maintenance managers. I don't necessarily agree with that. Most of the time, managers are just looking for clarity or a final decision on matters. We begged for a rulebook to make it easier on you and 3 years later we got two paragraphs. You would have so much less static if you'd just do what needs to be done. You have proven that you really don't want to, so the league needs to move on. I appreciate the fact that you got this league up and running. I fully understand how difficult that is since my other league still evolves every year even after 18 years. So big props for that. If I could buy you a beer, I would. Perhaps you should come to the D when New England plays here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbfalcon 825 Posted November 4, 2010 So is BLS gone? Only 3 of us have stated a clear opinion, but we all have seemingly voted that he has to go. _______ Also, I have no overall issues with how Edjr has handled things. Yes, I wish he'd be more authoritative when it comes to things like setting draft dates. The BLS issue, I don't want Edjr to act on his own, but I wish he'd be more proactive in trying to get our opinions and then make a decision. Seems like there should have been an thread titled "Official: What do we do with BLS?" a week ago now. Maybe I'll make one. But as far as the "rule book" and all the things people have wanted clarification on...Maybe I'm wrong and am forgetting what the specific issues were but I don't remember ever finding anything too confusing. The things people were questioning seemed self explanatory and I remember thinking I wouldn't want to have to spell out all those things for people either. I am fine with anyone as commish as long as they see this things as a democracy and are more interested in just organizing the collective wishes of the league, as oppose to a tyrant. I definitely do not want the job. It's just a time issue with me. I waste a lot of time on this league at work, but once I get home it's tougher. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yostevo 0 Posted November 4, 2010 So is BLS gone? Only 3 of us have stated a clear opinion, but we all have seemingly voted that he has to go. _______ I don't necessarily agree to booting BLS. He may have had his reasons (yada yada I know) but it's still his team. The problem I have is that the reason something like that happens is because it didn't get taken care of from the get go. That IS a commissioner duty. Send out league wide email warnings etc...to remind it won't be tolerated and if it continues, that you might face sanctions or possible removal. It's real simple actually. Any of that take place? No, we were forced to squabble about it on a messageboard for days because nothing was done about it. That creates unnecessary tension and ruins a league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IAMWood 6 Posted November 5, 2010 hey assfock, it was $55 per team. suck it down. Alright, if we only paid $5 each for the website then I apologize and I will shut up about you playing for free, I thought we paid $10 each, but maybe that was just the first year. If you don't want to commish then don't, it really shouldn't be that tough, you put a lot of the grief on yourself, someone else can do it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLS 314 Posted November 5, 2010 Sux would take over since BLS doesn't want to play anymore. I even mentioned this debacle to him on the phone the other night, I think he is just waiting for the go ahead. I wish IAMWOOD would complain more. I miss the passion. Seems like this league is losing a little more all the time. I for one never considered IAMWOOD a whiny b1tch. He brought up a lot of good points. So chime in all you want man. SUX can't even afford a double cheeseburger from the dollar menu. Making political decisions requires the ability to ascertain whether someone can meet the minimum criteria; which SUX obviously does not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLS 314 Posted November 5, 2010 I have an idea that should make all of you cupcake fuckin homos happy. Edjr: Send me $50 SUX: take my team over and send EDJR $50 Oh ######....my idea is worthless now. Look you fluffy biches; if you want me out, I'm out. Go ###### youselves. I don't even really care. Honestly. Get someone to send me my entry fee and they can have my team. period. You want me gone? Send me $50 It's easy CB. I'd like to give your GF the herpes. And not only that but make you apologize for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IAMWood 6 Posted November 5, 2010 I have an idea that should make all of you cupcake fuckin homos happy. Edjr: Send me $50 SUX: take my team over and send EDJR $50 Oh ######....my idea is worthless now. Look you fluffy biches; if you want me out, I'm out. Go ###### youselves. I don't even really care. Honestly. Get someone to send me my entry fee and they can have my team. period. You want me gone? Send me $50 It's easy CB. I'd like to give your GF the herpes. And not only that but make you apologize for it. Why all the hate bro? Too much to ask for you to be competitive? If it is, we can find help for ya. If you have some personal things going on, no problem, we will help ya out. Good luck, there is a reason why fees need to be paid before the season, you know that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,580 Posted November 5, 2010 I have an idea that should make all of you cupcake fuckin homos happy. Edjr: Send me $50 SUX: take my team over and send EDJR $50 Oh ######....my idea is worthless now. Look you fluffy biches; if you want me out, I'm out. Go ###### youselves. I don't even really care. Honestly. Get someone to send me my entry fee and they can have my team. period. You want me gone? Send me $50 It's easy CB. I'd like to give your GF the herpes. And not only that but make you apologize for it. I don't and never wanted you out. I happen to like you just fine . Just be nicer if you were a little more forthcoming and responsive. Now stop being a cuunt and pick up a QB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLS 314 Posted November 6, 2010 I don't and never wanted you out. I happen to like you just fine . Just be nicer if you were a little more forthcoming and responsive. Now stop being a cuunt and pick up a QB I don't need a QB. I have 2 startable QB's in Stafford and Vick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmmmm...beer 807 Posted November 6, 2010 I don't need a QB. I have 2 startable QB's in Stafford and Vick. Fock bro.. your fine. Sounds like your communicating now and that's pretty much what all this came down over. Lack of communication or whatever. We're a pretty young league and we're just adjusting. Don't take sh!t to personally. I figure we just focking drive on kids... Implement a rule/sanctions for not fully paying attention without a good excuse for next year and then on and lets put this focking thing to bed. Tired of lurking on here every day and seeing this focking thing juggernauting into a big focking rift in our league. P.S. you could have picked a week later to decide to get off your ass and put your roster in for real. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbfalcon 825 Posted November 6, 2010 Fock bro.. your fine. Sounds like your communicating now and that's pretty much what all this came down over. Lack of communication or whatever. We're a pretty young league and we're just adjusting. Don't take sh!t to personally. I figure we just focking drive on kids... Implement a rule/sanctions for not fully paying attention without a good excuse for next year and then on and lets put this focking thing to bed. Tired of lurking on here every day and seeing this focking thing juggernauting into a big focking rift in our league. P.S. you could have picked a week later to decide to get off your ass and put your roster in for real. He would be fine if he would say he now understands he owes it to the league to try and field a complete lineup. Instead he has done the opposite and told anyone that cares about this sort of thing to fock off. Thus the rift. I'm passed the fact that the league was compromised. I'm now stuck on the fact that BLS doesn't understand the mistake. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IAMWood 6 Posted November 7, 2010 He would be fine if he would say he now understands he owes it to the league to try and field a complete lineup. Instead he has done the opposite and told anyone that cares about this sort of thing to fock off. Thus the rift. I'm passed the fact that the league was compromised. I'm now stuck on the fact that BLS doesn't understand the mistake. Let's move on. He understands, it would be better coming from him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbfalcon 825 Posted November 7, 2010 Let's move on. He understands, it would be better coming from him. I have seen zero indication he understands. Instead I've only seen indications that he doesn't think he did anything wrong. But I'm done being mad about it. All leagues have half ass owners that only try when their team is good. Truth is, it's my fault for expecting more of the owners in this league than my others. That one is on me. Even if this league sucks just as bad as most others, I'm still invested enough in my franchise to keep having fun. Whatever. It's disappointing, but no biggie in the grand scheme of things. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLS 314 Posted November 8, 2010 Hey Look guys. I understand where everyone is coming from. People think I tanked on purpose. I tried to establish there is nothing further from the truth. If someone would like to fully explain the waiver wire/bidding process it would be the largest benefit to me never doing it again, but I still haven't heard anything. Notice though, how I didn't whine like a chic about it? I've been playing FF since 1994 and that year I drafted 3 QB's; one of which was Jim Kelly and I got laughed at for hours. I made a promise to myself that I'd kick everyone's ass after that; and I did. For 4 years. But I digress. I'm sorry if folks feel like I was tanking or throwing games. I can assure you I wasn't. Do I spend a lot of time on the DNDL forum? No....I spend maybe half the time on the Geek Club I used to. Just too much going on in life. But I still want to win, and I still try. If I didn't I wouldn't submit lineups every week. To an intelligent person that would seem logical; but now it's become some orgy of bitching. I'm not going anywhere. If you don't like me or how I play you can suck my c0ck or quit. Personally if your vagina is that tight I suggest you a: get laid, and b: suck it the f*ck up. Also CBFalcon, the only thing I understand is your mom's kunt looks like a philly steak sandwich (with extra cheese). I wanted to go down on her just to spite you but the stank was so fuckin nasty I'd rather share a mop sandwich with Nancy Pelosi. Don't get all butthurt; it's not my fault your mom's kunt smells like a burnt grilled-feta cheese sandwich: and looks like one when you spread it apart. Just love for ya brother...just love. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLS 314 Posted November 8, 2010 Fock bro.. your fine. Sounds like your communicating now and that's pretty much what all this came down over. Lack of communication or whatever. We're a pretty young league and we're just adjusting. Don't take sh!t to personally. I figure we just focking drive on kids... Implement a rule/sanctions for not fully paying attention without a good excuse for next year and then on and lets put this focking thing to bed. Tired of lurking on here every day and seeing this focking thing juggernauting into a big focking rift in our league. P.S. you could have picked a week later to decide to get off your ass and put your roster in for real. It's spelled 'too personally" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbfalcon 825 Posted November 8, 2010 Hey Look guys. I understand where everyone is coming from. People think I tanked on purpose. I tried to establish there is nothing further from the truth. If someone would like to fully explain the waiver wire/bidding process it would be the largest benefit to me never doing it again, but I still haven't heard anything. Notice though, how I didn't whine like a chic about it? I've been playing FF since 1994 and that year I drafted 3 QB's; one of which was Jim Kelly and I got laughed at for hours. I made a promise to myself that I'd kick everyone's ass after that; and I did. For 4 years. But I digress. I'm sorry if folks feel like I was tanking or throwing games. I can assure you I wasn't. Do I spend a lot of time on the DNDL forum? No....I spend maybe half the time on the Geek Club I used to. Just too much going on in life. But I still want to win, and I still try. If I didn't I wouldn't submit lineups every week. To an intelligent person that would seem logical; but now it's become some orgy of bitching. I'm not going anywhere. If you don't like me or how I play you can suck my c0ck or quit. Personally if your vagina is that tight I suggest you a: get laid, and b: suck it the f*ck up. Also CBFalcon, the only thing I understand is your mom's kunt looks like a philly steak sandwich (with extra cheese). I wanted to go down on her just to spite you but the stank was so fuckin nasty I'd rather share a mop sandwich with Nancy Pelosi. Don't get all butthurt; it's not my fault your mom's kunt smells like a burnt grilled-feta cheese sandwich: and looks like one when you spread it apart. Just love for ya brother...just love. I quit thinking you were tanking on purpose long ago. I understand now that you just don't think you have an obligation to try and start a full lineup. I do apologize to the league for ever bringing the issue up. The insults from BLS are over the top, but I apologize to BLS for making him so angry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mobb_deep 920 Posted November 9, 2010 I quit thinking you were tanking on purpose long ago. I understand now that you just don't think you have an obligation to try and start a full lineup. I do apologize to the league for ever bringing the issue up. The insults from BLS are over the top, but I apologize to BLS for making him so angry. Too late, you rooned the league already. PS. 9-0 b!tchez! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbfalcon 825 Posted November 9, 2010 Too late, you rooned the league already. PS. 9-0 b!tchez! I ruined nothing. I just exposed this as a sucky FF league. Also, your team sucks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gocolts 300 Posted November 10, 2010 I ruined nothing. I just exposed this as a sucky FF league. Also, your team sucks. You most certainly did NOT roon the league. So don't sweat that. I do think the league is rooned, but cbfalcon had NOTHING to do with it. If anything, cbfalcon has tried like a motherfocker to save it. I am so focking disappointed in with what has happened this season I don't even give a fock at this point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbfalcon 825 Posted November 10, 2010 You most certainly did NOT roon the league. So don't sweat that. I do think the league is rooned, but cbfalcon had NOTHING to do with it. If anything, cbfalcon has tried like a motherfocker to save it. I am so focking disappointed in with what has happened this season I don't even give a fock at this point. Thanks buddy. I appreciate that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmmmm...beer 807 Posted November 10, 2010 You most certainly did NOT roon the league. So don't sweat that. I do think the league is rooned, but cbfalcon had NOTHING to do with it. If anything, cbfalcon has tried like a motherfocker to save it. I am so focking disappointed in with what has happened this season I don't even give a fock at this point. CLAP.... CLAP.... C... L...A...P........ and the Oscar goes to.... YOU GARY!! Fock... the league is fine. WTF Mr. Mellowdramatic... we're fine. Drive the fock on and play FF. No more whining and get back on your meds boys! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbfalcon 825 Posted November 10, 2010 CLAP.... CLAP.... C... L...A...P........ and the Oscar goes to.... YOU GARY!! Fock... the league is fine. WTF Mr. Mellowdramatic... we're fine. Drive the fock on and play FF. No more whining and get back on your meds boys! Nobody is being dramatic. Its just a feeling of resignation. The owners in this league would prefer competitiveness and fair play, but they dont care enough to demand it. The league isnt ruined. It is fine. It's just not a good league like I thought it was. Kinda disappointing is all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mobb_deep 920 Posted November 10, 2010 You most certainly did NOT roon the league. So don't sweat that. I do think the league is rooned, but cbfalcon had NOTHING to do with it. If anything, cbfalcon has tried like a motherfocker to save it. I am so focking disappointed in with what has happened this season I don't even give a fock at this point. You just rooned the league again. Nice going man... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yostevo 0 Posted November 10, 2010 You just rooned the league again. Nice going man... The league got rooned for CBsparrow when his team (god's gift to ff) turned to poo. His mangina has a Stafford like 3rd degree seperation. I do applaud his attempts to point out the flaws of the league. However, the ferocity and antagonistic way he went about his head hunt certainly was a bit much. It seemed personal. I simply wanted lameduckJr to step up and deal with a scenario that can happen to any league. We've all been served notice on how we could do things differently in the future so hopefully that happens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbfalcon 825 Posted November 10, 2010 I do applaud his attempts to point out the flaws of the league. However, the ferocity and antagonistic way he went about his head hunt certainly was a bit much. It seemed personal. That's a fair criticism. I honestly initially believed BLS was throwing games. He'd been offered trades and never countered. There were QBs on the waiver wire every week, he had plenty of Nasty Bucks and he'd used the waiver wire many times before, yet he never bid on anyone. He also was active in changing his lineup, so there was no chance he was offline that month. I was mad. It looked like someone that didn't want to win his games. That said, despite my anger I didn't actually want BLS gone. I simply wanted it made clear we wouldn't stand for this sort of thing. Then BLS told me and anyone mad about the issue to fock off. He claimed not to understand waivers, understand when they run, and blamed his issues on Ed for choosing that website. Knowing that he has made moves before, and that we have a pinned thread titled "Rules" that explains everything if he really didn't understand the 3 year old system he has used many times, I then really did get mad. All that being said, kicking an owner out should only be a very very last resort. I went there way too fast. That's the reason I have apologized in recent days. Again, I apologize for that. That said, the way everyone else has reacted is why I think the league sucks. While I totally expected people to talk me off of all "kick him out" viewpoints, I expected every owner to feel the same way about BLS' actions and his reasoning/justification for said actions. I was wrong to let it get personal. I was wrong to be so adamant about kicking him out. But I was 100% correct to say I won't stand for BLS' actions or justifications. The league is half assed because of the fact that only 2 of us seem to be up in arms. Sorry if this post is repetitive, poorly written , etc. Wrote this on a cellphone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbfalcon 825 Posted November 10, 2010 The league got rooned for CBsparrow when his team (god's gift to ff) turned to poo. His mangina has a Stafford like 3rd degree seperation. I'm still going to win my division. Mark it down. But even if I go 0-14 in a season, I will still grind. Its a dynasty afterall. For instance, this has been my worst year yet and I'm making more moves than ever. I just traded a draft pick for a 3rd string RB that has 30 yards rushing on the season. Grinding baby! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yostevo 0 Posted November 10, 2010 That's a fair criticism. I honestly initially believed BLS was throwing games. He'd been offered trades and never countered. There were QBs on the waiver wire every week, he had plenty of Nasty Bucks and he'd used the waiver wire many times before, yet he never bid on anyone. He also was active in changing his lineup, so there was no chance he was offline that month. I was mad. It looked like someone that didn't want to win his games. That said, despite my anger I didnt actually want BLS gone. I simply wanted it made clear we wouldn't stand for this sort of thing. Then BLS told me and anyone mad about the issue tto fock off. He claimed not to understand waivers, understand when they run, and blamed his issues on Ed for choosing that website. Knowing that he has made moves before, and that we have a pinned thread titled "Rules" that explains everything if he really didn't understand the 3 year old system he has used many times, I then reall did get mad. All that being said, kicking an owner out should only be a very very last resort. I went there way too fast. That's the reason I have apologized in recent days. Again, I apologize for that. That said, the way everyone else has reacted is why I think the league sucks. While I totally expected people to talk me off of all "kick him out" viewpoints, I expected every owner to feel the same way about BLS' actions and his reasoning/justification for said actions. I was wrong to let it get personal. I was wrong to be so adamant about kicking him out. But I was 100% correct to say I won't stand for BLS' actions or justifications. The league is half assed because of the fact that only 2 of us seem to be up in arms. Sorry if this post is repetitive, poorly written , etc. Wrote this on a cellphone. I think the point that most of us got that maybe you didn't was the fact that BLS had no excuses. None. There was no point in even asking for an explanation because it would just insult our intelligence. However, you were demanding explanations and you got your intelligence insulted therefore you became emotionally wrapped up. Again, you weren't going to get a satisfactory answer! So what have we learned: 1. BLS is obnoxious and yet abnormally wired just enough to be entertaining. There all types in a league. 2. Cbfalcon is passionate and dedicated to a fault. Every league needs this type of owner though. We choose to ignore the fact you had 2011 #1 pick thoughts dancing around every good & legitimate point you were trying to make. 3. Ed is bipolar and mildly retarded. Just what this league needs for a commish. Carry on my wayward sons.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbfalcon 825 Posted November 10, 2010 I think the point that most of us got that maybe you didn't was the fact that BLS had no excuses. None. There was no point in even asking for an explanation because it would just insult our intelligence. However, you were demanding explanations and you got your intelligence insulted therefore you became emotionally wrapped up. Again, you weren't going to get a satisfactory answer! So what have we learned: 1. BLS is obnoxious and yet abnormally wired just enough to be entertaining. There all types in a league. 2. Cbfalcon is passionate and dedicated to a fault. Every league needs this type of owner though. We choose to ignore the fact you had 2011 #1 pick thoughts dancing around every good & legitimate point you were trying to make. 3. Ed is bipolar and mildly retarded. Just what this league needs for a commish. Carry on my wayward sons.... No doubt the draft pick issues initially drew my attention to the issue. But that isn't why I stayed upset. I stayed mad because I felt someone was cheating and nobody seems to want to make a big deal about it. Im not that mad about it anymore. What sense does it make to be a passionate owner when most of the other owners are lacking is passion? That'd just make me the sucker. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,580 Posted November 10, 2010 No doubt the draft pick issues initially drew my attention to the issue. But that isn't why I stayed upset. I stayed mad because I felt someone was cheating and nobody seems to want to make a big deal about it. Im not that mad about it anymore. What sense does it make to be a passionate owner when most of the other owners are lacking is passion? That'd just make me the sucker. No one was cheating, that was why no one made a big deal about it. BLS is too stupid to cheat, have you read any of his geek board posts? He's not crazy smart, he's crazy stupid. all joking aside. Now, I will agree with you 'someone' needs to make a rule about this going forward, but even so, making a rule isn't easy, sometimes people make honest mistakes and he did change his lineup every week, that cannot ever be considered cheating. Lazy, sure. Should he have spent $1 or $2 and picked up a QB? yes absolutely, but can we penalize someone for not doing such? Perhaps. again, easier said than done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbfalcon 825 Posted November 10, 2010 No one was cheating, that was why no one made a big deal about it. BLS is too stupid to cheat, have you read any of his geek board posts? He's not crazy smart, he's crazy stupid. all joking aside. Now, I will agree with you 'someone' needs to make a rule about this going forward, but even so, making a rule isn't easy, sometimes people make honest mistakes and he did change his lineup every week, that cannot ever be considered cheating. Lazy, sure. Should he have spent $1 or $2 and picked up a QB? yes absolutely, but can we penalize someone for not doing such? Perhaps. again, easier said than done. Not trying your best to be competitive is cheating, whether or not the guilty part is intelligent enough to realize it or not. Kind of like a drunk married guy getting a blowjob from a stranger at a bar. He may have been too stupid to realize he was cheating, but he was. That said, whatever. Making a rule isn't that hard. I'm all for democracy, but sometimes a voice has to take charge. It can be as simple as "If I don't think an owner is doing his best to be competitive, I will take away a draft pick. 2nd time I will kick him out". 99% of it is common sense. Neckbeards messed up once. Nobody would logically want him punished. If you aren't sure, you could ask for input. But as commish, you make the final call. Is that unrealistic? But regardless, I'm not too worried about it anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLS 314 Posted November 20, 2010 Jebus tapdancing Christ. Is this still going on? BTW...anybody check out my score last week? CBfalcon...lets bury this hatchet ok? I apologize for not being uber-competitive. I was wrong to not do everything in my power to retain the integrity of the league by fielding my best lineup. I mean that sincerely. It's obvious you're very emotional about this issue, and I need to respect that. I do not like to lose...at anything. You've got my word I will do my best effort to field the best lineup I can (with the sh1t I have to work with). I don't want this league to feel like I'm 'tanking'. I don't want anyone to feel like I don't care. I just don't want the inuendo that I'm not trying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbfalcon 825 Posted November 20, 2010 Jebus tapdancing Christ. Is this still going on? BTW...anybody check out my score last week? CBfalcon...lets bury this hatchet ok? I apologize for not being uber-competitive. I was wrong to not do everything in my power to retain the integrity of the league by fielding my best lineup. I mean that sincerely. It's obvious you're very emotional about this issue, and I need to respect that. I do not like to lose...at anything. You've got my word I will do my best effort to field the best lineup I can (with the sh1t I have to work with). I don't want this league to feel like I'm 'tanking'. I don't want anyone to feel like I don't care. I just don't want the inuendo that I'm not trying. It actually wasn't "still going on". It had been 10 days since anyone posted in this thread. But it's all good. I meant it when I said I wasn't going to worry about it anymore. Hatchet buried. I hope Vick stays healthy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites