Giants Fan 85 Posted October 11, 2011 Whadya think? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kent 228 Posted October 11, 2011 How did Lloyd do with Tebow last year. If fine, then Decker may be fine. If no, then Decker is probably not someone that can be counted on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dueces Will Be Wild 15 Posted October 11, 2011 Lloyd last 3 games of last year: 4/79/1 5/111/0 5/73/1 Not bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patmos 2 Posted October 11, 2011 Tebow likely will not be effective with "pure" route runners, and Decker is an excellent route runner - unfortunately, I expect a drop off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TennisMenace 156 Posted October 12, 2011 Not as good but still decent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justforbeer 39 Posted October 12, 2011 Decker...really? You should know better. Tebow at QB WR's are LLoyd Demarius Thomas Eddie Royal Decker in no order but I see nothing but heartache here.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Houston Texans 10 Posted October 12, 2011 Decker...really? You should know better. Tebow at QB WR's are LLoyd Demarius Thomas Eddie Royal Decker in no order but I see nothing but heartache here.... Yeah, really. Tebow's 3 starts last year: 12/19 Lloyd 4 for 79 & 1 TD Gaffney 1 for 32 12/26 Lloyd 5 for 111 Gaffney 4 for 90 Royal 2 for 22 1/02 Lloyd 5 for 73 & 1 TD Decker 2 for 22 & 1 TD Gaffney 1 for 12 Now that's a small sample size, but Lloyd's 3 game stretch with Tebow @ QB would extrapolate out to 75 rec, 1402 yards, & 11 TDs. Last year, Lloyd had 77 catches, 1440 yards, and 11 TDs. Seems like Tebow didn't impact his numbers at all. Gaffney's numbers with Tebow as his QB extrapolate out to 32 catches, 715 yards, & 0 TDs. Last year he had 65 rec, 875 yards, & 2 TD. While the receptions were down a lot, the yards only dropped slightly, and the TDs went down, but overall, Tebow didn't have a huge negative impact on Gaffney. Decker was a rookie last year, and didn't play much (didn't start a single game), but in 1/3 of Tebow's starts, he had 2 catches and a TD. He only had 4 catches the entire year up to that point. I don't think there's any way you can say Tebow hurt Decker last year. There's value to be had in Denver right now. The key is figuring out what value each guy has. Simply disregarding ALL Denver WRs because it's "Tebow at QB," is just stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RightCoastSurfer 1 Posted October 12, 2011 "Tebow at QB," is just stupid. QFT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
browndelivers 7 Posted October 12, 2011 I dropped Decker for Greg Little yesterday. Tebow and Decker have strengths individually, but I just don't see them having the chemistry that Orton and Decker had. Add in return of Royal, Thomas, etc. plus the general implosion of the team, and I see a lot of downside. Little, by contrast, has good skills, is now in the starting lineup, is arguably the #1 WR on the team already, and has gotten more targets each week. In short, upside. It's too bad for Decker, who I like but is in a bad situation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JT 137 Posted October 12, 2011 Look to the TE position in Denver as a slot where stats will jump. It's the security blanket for a young QB, and Tebow has a good feel for that part of the passing game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,083 Posted October 12, 2011 Look to the TE position in Denver as a slot where stats will jump. It's the security blanket for a young QB, and Tebow has a good feel for that part of the passing game. I just mentioned the exact same thing in to a league mate of mine. I see B.Loyld and D.Fells stocks actually rising. Orton loved Decker. Apparently they workded out together in the offseason and whatnot and Orton looked his way a whole lot. Which sorta was one of Orton's problems as he has tunnel vision. But from a fantasy perspective it was great for us Decker owners. I still think Erick is talented enough to earn a roster spot in 12 teamers and higher, but I fear the gig is up as him being a viable starting WR. When Orton was benched it really hurt Deckers stock. Loyld and the TE's I'm buying though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgeAllen 0 Posted October 12, 2011 any receiver with Tebow at QB is a crap shoot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted October 12, 2011 Wouldn't it seem to reason that a 2nd year QB who has been working with the 2nd/3rd team in the past would have some sort of rapport with a 2nd year WR who has been primarily working with the 2nd team in the past? Tebow is probably as familiar if not more with Decker than anyone else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,083 Posted October 12, 2011 Wouldn't it seem to reason that a 2nd year QB who has been working with the 2nd/3rd team in the past would have some sort of rapport with a 2nd year WR who has been primarily working with the 2nd team in the past? Tebow is probably as familiar if not more with Decker than anyone else. I can see where one might think that, but I remember reading where Orton and Decker are good friends and worked out together (along with Larry Fitzgerald) in the offseason during the lockout. It was one of the reasons the Orton to AZ rumor started back in the summer. Here's a link: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBoQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fbroncotalk.net%2F2011%2F06%2F22601%2Fbroncos-buzz%2Fbronco-players-working-hard-amidst-lockout%2F&ei=A9CVTsyFOcjx0gGg1ZCqBw&usg=AFQjCNGsTmKOiO-taisMoS3DVRwOp6hu_A Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mendomob 0 Posted October 12, 2011 I dropped Decker, but I think he still holds value in leagues with 12-14 teams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
madd futher mucker 36 Posted October 13, 2011 any receiver with Tebow at QB is a crap shoot This is just dumb. Check last year's stats, my man. And Tebow had 4 balls dropped on him on Sunday or his stats would have been even bigger. I'd venture to say that Lloyd's value will rise while Decker's will fall. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BRANDON ROSS 0 Posted October 13, 2011 Decker...really? You should know better. Tebow at QB WR's are LLoyd Demarius Thomas Eddie Royal Decker in no order but I see nothing but heartache here.... Yeah, it's not Tebow you have to worry about, but the other guys getting healthy. I mean, Thomas has to come back eventually right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
el_duderino 0 Posted October 13, 2011 Yeah, it's not Tebow you have to worry about, but the other guys getting healthy. I mean, Thomas has to come back eventually right? I really like Demaryus but how do we know what shape he's in and if he's the same guy? Lots of unknown in this situation....I've had Decker and started him in my league since week 2. Haven't dropped him yet but I'm trying to move him for anything I can get... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 591 Posted October 13, 2011 Well, I have Decker. I'm not happy about this development, but I'm not dropping him yet. I'll give him a couple of weeks to develop chemistry with Teebow. But I have no high hopes at this point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,317 Posted October 13, 2011 I've thought about dropping Decker, but for now I am going to hold on to him for a couple weeks to see how he does with Tebow in there. I am not optimistic though. If your QB can only complete 40% of his passes its obviously going to have an effect on your production as a WR. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giants Fan 85 Posted October 13, 2011 I think there's a good chance his best games this year are behind him. But there's no value in trying to trade him now, going into the bye. His value in a trade went from a solid #2 WR to nothing, in 1 game. He pretty much cost me my game this week with the goose egg. He also won me a game, a couple weeks ago. I was hoping he was the next WW (Wes Welker) but I'll hold and see, maybe he'll be the next WW (Waiver Wire) drop after next week. I'll wait and hold, for now. His value can't get lower. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
