IN$TANT REPAY 11 Posted November 4, 2011 40 carries for DJ Ware Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chroniciguana 13 Posted November 4, 2011 Bradshaw has so much metal screwed into his feet you could sell the guy for scrap value. He has fractured the fifth metatarsal of both feet. And had both surgically repaired. The confusion about his latest "stress fracture," as it was called, is not all that uncommon. There are two types of fractures of the fifth metatarsal. Figuring out which one you've got isn't all that hard, but it takes a little time. If the Giants are saying he can play, it's an avulsion fracture. Yeah, he can play. He can play in blinding pain. If it were a Jones fracture, bye-bye season. He won't be anywhere close to 100 percent. They'll shoot him up and the toe will be splinted. He's probably not a great start, but he's likely not a drop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SNZ11 5 Posted November 5, 2011 So he could be fine, but what about if someone steps on his foot? Is it that sensitive of a injury where something that simple could knock him out for the season? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted November 5, 2011 Bradshaw has so much metal screwed into his feet you could sell the guy for scrap value. He has fractured the fifth metatarsal of both feet. And had both surgically repaired. The confusion about his latest "stress fracture," as it was called, is not all that uncommon. There are two types of fractures of the fifth metatarsal. Figuring out which one you've got isn't all that hard, but it takes a little time. If the Giants are saying he can play, it's an avulsion fracture. Yeah, he can play. He can play in blinding pain. If it were a Jones fracture, bye-bye season. He won't be anywhere close to 100 percent. They'll shoot him up and the toe will be splinted. He's probably not a great start, but he's likely not a drop. Good stuff; thanks for posting it. I'm just hoping Brenda can step up, shine for a week so I can deal his azz before he sprains his fifth mangina. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chroniciguana 13 Posted November 5, 2011 So he could be fine, but what about if someone steps on his foot? Is it that sensitive of a injury where something that simple could knock him out for the season? Stress fractures aren't caused by a specific trauma, like someone smashing or stomping on your foot. But having someone jam their cleats into your broken toe isn't a recommended treatment. A stress fracture of the fifth metatarsal is caused by putting too much repeated stress on the foot - specifically the base of the little toe. It eventually cracks. His previously surgically repaired toe was put back together with a screw and bone graft. He would have to break the screw. It's a big screw. The new fracture, based on what's being reported, is apparently higher up on the toe. It's a slow-healing injury. Playing on it doesn't help the healing. But it can be done. If he can take the pain following the game (they'll make sure he feels very little during the game) he can keep playing - and let it heal properly after the season. But he won't be 100 percent. Or even close. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giants Fan 85 Posted November 5, 2011 Awesome medical analysis. Thanks for that. So, here's what I'm hearing: Bradshaw is not going to play this week. Don't start him. Jacobs is a good play, he seems motivated to have a good second half. Plain and simple, here is his chance. The coaches expect him to be able to carry the load, if asked to do so. Ware ... look ... Bradshaw was seen as a replacement for Tiki Barber, and a step down at that .... but he worked out to be a good back, but with the same concern ... he's not going to wear down a defense. He can't run the ball 30 times a game. The Giants have won a lot of boring games, where they have a lot of 4 yard runs, and I expect that strategy against NE this week. If Jacobs can get out there, he doesn't have to run the wheel route, just truck over linebackers, and they keep going to him ... he will wear that defense down. Ware .... I just don't think he brings the same kind of cutting, change direction moves that backs like Tiki and Bradshaw make. Also, I'd think that would, at least become predictable, on a broken foot. Can't cut, at least 1 direction. As a matter of fact, I think I would rather have the rookie, D. Scott going forward over Ware. He could be what the Giants haven't had since Rodney Hampton ... 1 back that can do it all. But since Dayne, the Giants have been very reluctant to give a rookie back a large number of carries. No Giants RB ever got more of a chance to do well, than Ron Dayne, and stunk it up more. Scott .... maybe next year ... he looks like another late round steal, like Bradshaw was. Maybe late in this season .... but Ward .... man ... if Ward is the starting RB ... the Giants are done. Have you seen their schedule? Brandon Jacobs in a contract year ... says he wants to play 3 more years. Does he still have it? I wouldn't bet against him. Ward ... I don't think has the skills. Scott ... awesome receiver, looked great in preseason ... depending on Bradshaw and Jacob's health, you could see more of him this season, but only if you want to take a total flyer. My money is on Jacobs, this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spec7ral 6 Posted November 5, 2011 DJs make the stay at home guy look dumb, cause the basement boy can't request a song Get Ware now. They haven't used Jacobs like Jacobs since we learned his name. Trust the scurrier. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giants Fan 85 Posted November 5, 2011 Are there any highlights of DJ Ware doing this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiwKDKQ-53s Anywhere? Ware is a capable back, who is good at pass protection, and isn't going to get in there and make a lot of rookie mistakes. I just don't see a lot of fantasy value there. Scott is a rookie. He's got a lot of raw talent ... I just don't see him getting much playing time this year. Also, translates to not much fantasy value. But he clearly does have the ability to be an "all purpose" kinda guy. Was also a great receiver in college ... ... I just waived Taiwan Jones for him. Convinced myself, I gotta have him .... just in case. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giants Fan 85 Posted November 5, 2011 He's got the best hands ... of any RB I've ever seen for the Giants. Period. And breakaway speed. Eli has gotta be jonsing to test him out in a real game. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hleY7FV8Lhk ETA: Charles Way had pretty good hands, but he wasn't NEARLY as fast. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GridIronAssassin#1 0 Posted November 5, 2011 Hey Giant's fan, I'm going to follow your lead on this D'Rel Scott guy. You made a good call on Victor Cruz earlier in the season and because of that I have Victor Cruz in my lineup today. You can be convining at times, and for some reason I don't believe in Brandon Jacobs as the full time guy. I also question Bradshaw. So, obviously the Giants need a running back. So, you're post on D'Rel Scott hopefully is like looking in a chrystal ball. I still have to figure out who to can on my team for D'Rel, but I'm making this move. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giants Fan 85 Posted November 5, 2011 I been here a long time, son. I've made a lot of calls about the Giants. Can't tell you much about the Jaguars .... or the Dolphins .... but I know the Giants. Cruz also was a late round guy. Had a 3 TD game in pre-season as a rookie last year. First rookie to do that since Owens. Or maybe even ... besides Owens. The Giants, have made some questionable first round picks (Simms pick was booed by the fans) but they always find these diamonds in the rough. I think Cruz is still really rough ... but he has stuff you can't teach. Like .... you ever had a dog that can't catch a ball, and another one that is just psychotic about judging where that ball is in the air, and making the best transition while running to catch it .... that's Victor Cruz. Wish I had picked him up myself, prolly start him over Decker or Lance Moore this week. That's Ok though. Let me tell you one thing, the Giants are not going to just give up this division lead to the Eagles because Bradshaw is hurt. The Giants are not playing to try and get Luck in the draft. The Giants want to win. Now. That's clear. I think, depending on the severity of Bradshaw's fracture .... it's Jacobs and Scott. I would be STUNNED, if somehow Danny Ware broke out of that situation and became the main man in NY. Scott ... I could totally see that happening ... if both Bradshaw and Jacobs were hurt. He'd be money in a PPR. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TwentyFourSeven 23 Posted November 5, 2011 I don't need to start any of these guys but I'm thinking about picking one of them up as trade bait if they have a good game and sell to the Bradshaw owner who doesn't have Jacobs. The guy that will get carries this week besides Jacobs would have to be Ware. Down the road I could see Scott getting the carries if Bradshaw is indeed out, but I'm thinking about picking up Ware to maybe trade after this week if he gets a couple of good carries and catches. I've got nothing to lose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giants Fan 85 Posted November 5, 2011 Jacobs will be the main back this week. Ware/Scott in a change of pace role. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
plasma george 62 Posted November 5, 2011 Jacobs will be the main back this week. Ware/Scott in a change of pace role. Bradshaw owner, and this hurts...I see you have Jacobs starting.Jacobs isn't what he was, that's obvious. Whether it's the hard mileage (see Marion Barber), or his knee, or his head. He never had great side to side moves, now he's even slower. If three isn't a hole for him to run through, he's toast, cause it takes to long for him to make a cut and get started again, so it's always a loss or no gain. The hole has to be there for him to run through. His only chance for FF relevance is a pass interference call in the End Zone and he gets the 1yd fall TD. The Giant play this week is ELI, (mostly cause I'm playing him with Stafford bye)....he will be passing a ton as the Giants will be trailing early, and they know they will have little rushing attack. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Turf CamelToe 1 Posted November 5, 2011 Bradshaw owner, and this hurts...I see you have Jacobs starting. Jacobs isn't what he was, that's obvious. Whether it's the hard mileage (see Marion Barber), or his knee, or his head. He never had great side to side moves, now he's even slower. If three isn't a hole for him to run through, he's toast, cause it takes to long for him to make a cut and get started again, so it's always a loss or no gain. The hole has to be there for him to run through. His only chance for FF relevance is a pass interference call in the End Zone and he gets the 1yd fall TD. The Giant play this week is ELI, (mostly cause I'm playing him with Stafford bye)....he will be passing a ton as the Giants will be trailing early, and they know they will have little rushing attack. Steelers fan living in NJ and have watched all the games this year. Jacobs looked pretty good before the knee injury when he's had the ball. Me thinks he could b do well down the stretch. (Disclaimer - I do have him on my Roster) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buttmonkey 8 Posted November 5, 2011 Awesome medical analysis. Thanks for that. So, here's what I'm hearing: Bradshaw is not going to play this week. Don't start him. Jacobs is a good play, he seems motivated to have a good second half. Plain and simple, here is his chance. The coaches expect him to be able to carry the load, if asked to do so. Ware ... look ... Bradshaw was seen as a replacement for Tiki Barber, and a step down at that .... but he worked out to be a good back, but with the same concern ... he's not going to wear down a defense. He can't run the ball 30 times a game. The Giants have won a lot of boring games, where they have a lot of 4 yard runs, and I expect that strategy against NE this week. If Jacobs can get out there, he doesn't have to run the wheel route, just truck over linebackers, and they keep going to him ... he will wear that defense down. Ware .... I just don't think he brings the same kind of cutting, change direction moves that backs like Tiki and Bradshaw make. Also, I'd think that would, at least become predictable, on a broken foot. Can't cut, at least 1 direction. As a matter of fact, I think I would rather have the rookie, D. Scott going forward over Ware. He could be what the Giants haven't had since Rodney Hampton ... 1 back that can do it all. But since Dayne, the Giants have been very reluctant to give a rookie back a large number of carries. No Giants RB ever got more of a chance to do well, than Ron Dayne, and stunk it up more. Scott .... maybe next year ... he looks like another late round steal, like Bradshaw was. Maybe late in this season .... but Ward .... man ... if Ward is the starting RB ... the Giants are done. Have you seen their schedule? Brandon Jacobs in a contract year ... says he wants to play 3 more years. Does he still have it? I wouldn't bet against him. Ward ... I don't think has the skills. Scott ... awesome receiver, looked great in preseason ... depending on Bradshaw and Jacob's health, you could see more of him this season, but only if you want to take a total flyer. My money is on Jacobs, this year. Dude - you want Jacobs to do well so badly you're throwing out complete BS. Jacobs has had his chances and he's sucked. Now you're saying "you wouldn't bet against him". We know he's on your team and you desperately need him to do well for your team - but try and have a more objective eye. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,678 Posted November 5, 2011 Bradshaw and Nicks both ruled out, per pft.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giants Fan 85 Posted November 5, 2011 Dude - you want Jacobs to do well so badly you're throwing out complete BS. Jacobs has had his chances and he's sucked. Now you're saying "you wouldn't bet against him". We know he's on your team and you desperately need him to do well for your team - but try and have a more objective eye. I actually traded Tolbert to acquire him a couple weeks ago. So yeah ... I am high on Jacobs going forward. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted November 5, 2011 I'm guessing Bradshaw ends up on IR. Jacobs probably isn't the guy to own. I just don't think he has it anymore. If he is going to be effective at all it's only in limited situations. He's not going to be getting the rock 20 times a game. So that leaves Ware and Da'Rel Scott. Scott was a seventh round pick who hasn't had a carry all year. Ware hasn't topped 73 rushing yards in a season (he's been in the league five years). Really not a lot to like. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcmmidwest 149 Posted November 6, 2011 dropped ware for scott...just in case he has a demarco murray like performance Share this post Link to post Share on other sites