For all you "Separation of Church and State" types.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Not true.

 

 

http://www.bible-history.com/taxcollectors/TAXCOLLECTORSJesus_and_the_Tax_Collectors.htm

 

Jesus and the Tax Collectors

 

 

The attitude of Jesus toward the tax collectors was in stark contrast to that of the Rabbis. He had come to seek and save the lost. The Pharisees were separatists, and did not lower themselves to have anything to do with a tax collector, who was to them no better than a Gentile. But Jesus came not to condemn anyone, but to save every sinner and offer a better life. He never taught that there was anything inherently wrong with paying tribute to the Roman Government or collecting the tax. He was opposed to extortioners, but would fling open the door of repentance and salvation to them. He rejected none, not even the worst.

 

Jesus made himself a friend of men, even of the tax collectors and the worst of sinners. He set a new precedent among the Jews by accepting and associating with the tax collectors. He ate with them (Mark 2:16), He offered salvation to them (Luke 19:9), and He even chose a tax collector (Matthew) as one of His twelve disciples (Matt 9:9).

 

Luke 18:9-14 "Also He spoke this parable to some who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others: Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, 'God, I thank You that I am not like other men--extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this tax collector. I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I possess.' And the tax collector, standing afar off, would not so much as raise his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, 'God, be merciful to me a sinner!' I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other; for everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted."

 

 

 

And this:

 

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+19%3A1-10&version=NIV

 

Zacchaeus the Tax Collector

1 Jesus entered Jericho and was passing through. 2 A man was there by the name of Zacchaeus; he was a chief tax collector and was wealthy. 3 He wanted to see who Jesus was, but because he was short he could not see over the crowd. 4 So he ran ahead and climbed a sycamore-fig tree to see him, since Jesus was coming that way.

5 When Jesus reached the spot, he looked up and said to him, “Zacchaeus, come down immediately. I must stay at your house today.” 6 So he came down at once and welcomed him gladly.

 

7 All the people saw this and began to mutter, “He has gone to be the guest of a sinner.”

 

8 But Zacchaeus stood up and said to the Lord, “Look, Lord! Here and now I give half of my possessions to the poor, and if I have cheated anybody out of anything, I will pay back four times the amount.”

 

9 Jesus said to him, “Today salvation has come to this house, because this man, too, is a son of Abraham. 10 For the Son of Man came to seek and to save the lost.”

None of which says Jesus was a big fan of tax collectors.

[Gepetto 1,448]

None of which says Jesus was a big fan of tax collectors.

 

I think you're interpretation is off.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

I think you're interpretation is off.

You are entitled to your opinion, even when it is wrong.

[Mike Honcho 5,412]

You are entitled to your opinion, even when it is wrong.

 

 

You would know...

[MTSkiBum 1,626]

None of which says Jesus was a big fan of tax collectors.

 

Did you know that mathew, one of the twelve apostles, was a tax collector?

[Little Rusty 19]

You are entitled to your opinion, even when it is wrong.

 

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Did you know that mathew, one of the twelve apostles, was a tax collector?

Still doesn't show Jesus was a fan of tax collectors.

[Gepetto 1,448]

[chroniciguana 13]

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion." It's known as the "Establishment Clause." Exactly how does Obama's remark become a law establishing a state religion? What law did he make? When did he become Congress?

 

Can a president quote the teachings of Jesus? Yep. Can a president choose to base policy on the teachings of Jesus? Uh huh. Can he sign an executive order or an act of Congress requiring all Americans to follow the teachings of Jesus? One that won't be tossed by the courts?

 

The fundamentalists argue that this is a Christian nation. They also argue that we need to stick to the Constitution. Makes sense to me.

[MedStudent 56]

Looks like Jesus was okay with Zacchaeus the Tax Collector after he gave half his possensions to the Poor. Jesus just didn't understand that the poor were lazy and the rich were noble.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion." It's known as the "Establishment Clause." Exactly how does Obama's remark become a law establishing a state religion? What law did he make? When did he become Congress?

 

Can a president quote the teachings of Jesus? Yep. Can a president choose to base policy on the teachings of Jesus? Uh huh. Can he sign an executive order or an act of Congress requiring all Americans to follow the teachings of Jesus? One that won't be tossed by the courts?

 

The fundamentalists argue that this is a Christian nation. They also argue that we need to stick to the Constitution. Makes sense to me.

You obviously missed the point of the thread.

[Phurfur 70]

Looks like Jesus was okay with Zacchaeus the Tax Collector after he gave half his possensions to the Poor. Jesus just didn't understand that the poor were lazy and the rich were noble.

 

Yes, he gave them to the poor not to the government. It is good to see you get it.

[Little Rusty 19]

[phillybear 366]

To make money?

 

Diminishing returns.