Portis26 0 Posted March 19, 2012 Ok, rank 'em Montana Elway Moon Marino Brady Young Manning Kelly Bradshaw (he 4-0 in SB) Farve (I guess) Not considering: Unitis Joergenson Sammy Baugh Guy from Cleveland (before kosar) Bart starr Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walter34 3 Posted March 19, 2012 Post 1978 (made exception for Bradshaw whose prime was pre \ around 1978) Montana Manning Elway Marino Brady Favre Young Moon Warner Fouts Bradshaw Aikman Kelly Brees Rodgers Rothlisberger Esaison McNabb Cunningham Theisman Ken Anderson Old Guys not listed but would be smattered through the list depending on what you rank on. Unitas - presumably the best of the old guys Graham and Starr - championship guys Luckman - first down field guy and best of 40s Other old farts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkfin 32 Posted March 19, 2012 Ok, rank 'em Montana Elway Moon Marino Brady Young Manning Kelly Bradshaw (he 4-0 in SB) Farve (I guess) Not considering: Unitis Joergenson Sammy Baugh Guy from Cleveland (before kosar) Bart starr I'm using just the first part of you're list. T. Brady J. Montana J. Elway P. Manning D. Marino (He would be #3 if he won some SB's) Bradshaw/Big Ben (There Def's have always been so good) B. Favre S. Young W. Moon Kelly Kelly, Moon, and Young would not make my all time top 10 though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BufordT 371 Posted March 19, 2012 Ok, rank 'em Montana Elway Moon Marino Brady Young Manning Kelly Bradshaw (he 4-0 in SB) Farve (I guess) Not considering: Unitis Joergenson Sammy Baugh Guy from Cleveland (before kosar) Bart starr Shhhheeeesh!! Aikman needs to be on that list....the guy never missed a throw in the post season (ok, rarely missed a throw). Somewhere between 5-10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
windycityguy 1 Posted March 19, 2012 Montana Farve Manning Marino Elway Brady Moon Young Aikmen Kelly From the players I have watched these are guys I would start a team with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raider 84 29 Posted March 20, 2012 K. Stabler J. Plunkett R. Gannon D. Lamonica Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raider 84 29 Posted March 20, 2012 1. Montana- simply the best 2. Brady -5 Superbowls 3 rings and counting, 2 MVPs and 50 tds season, he is underrated 3. Manning- 4 MVPs 4. Marino 5. Elway 6. Favre 7. Young 8. Kelly Old Timers such as Jonny U and Roger Staubach would be no brainers if we went old school. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,567 Posted March 24, 2012 Elway Montana Brady Bradshaw Manning Marino Warner Young Moon Warner Favre Fouts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kmbryant09 1 Posted March 24, 2012 Elway Montana Brady Bradshaw Manning Marino Warner Young Moon Warner Favre Fouts Terry Bradshaw was a better QB than Peyton Manning and Dan Marino? What the F*CK are you smoking? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
browns16-0 30 Posted March 24, 2012 Terry Bradshaw was a better QB than Peyton Manning and Dan Marino? What the F*CK are you smoking? No sh*t. Bradshaw has nearly as many career touchdowns(212) as he does interceptions(210), and a qb rating of 70.9. He has to be in the HOF because he was the qb of a Steelers squad that won 4 Superbowls. But he is in no way a better qb than Manning or Marino no matter how many Superbowl rings he has. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mzf5c5 0 Posted March 24, 2012 No sh*t. Bradshaw has nearly as many career touchdowns(212) as he does interceptions(210), and a qb rating of 70.9. He has to be in the HOF because he was the qb of a Steelers squad that won 4 Superbowls. But he is in no way a better qb than Manning or Marino no matter how many Superbowl rings he has. Well, according to all Pat fans, rings are the only thing that matter. So Bradshaw should be the top of the list! If you don't have Manning as 1 or 2, this whole rank is a joke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rockumbb1 1 Posted March 24, 2012 Ok, rank 'em Montana Elway Moon Marino Brady Young Manning Kelly Bradshaw (he 4-0 in SB) Farve (I guess) Not considering: Unitis Joergenson Sammy Baugh Guy from Cleveland (before kosar) Bart starr Montana Brady Manning Marino Elway Young Favre Moon Bradshaw Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bushy 0 Posted March 24, 2012 Montana Marino Young Manning Elway Kelly Brady Aikman Bradshaw Favre Warner Fouts Moon Oldtimers like Baugh and Unitas would be better than any of these guys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muggleborn 0 Posted March 24, 2012 Limiting the list to those you provided I would go in the following order: Montana - Had a great supporting cast which helps but seem to recall he still did well when he pre-retired to KC Marino - Not the most mobile but that fast release was a killer Moon - Was there ever a QB made for the run and shoot? Young - Never managed to make us forget about Montana Elway - Didn't always have a great supporting cast but was always a threat to keep his team in the game Manning, P - Started out w/ a rep as someone who might choke in the big games - will have to see the impact in Denver to accurately gauge where he falls Brady - Probably lower than most people will have him but we'll see how he closes out his career Favre - A blue collar guy everyone could root for - his game was premised on high risks and high rewards Kelly - Did not consider him the reason for Buf's success back in the day but he did play his role Bradshaw - Liked him as a player and now as an announcer but just as I do not think a SB win is needed to be on the list - being on the winning team (regardless of the number of times) is enough to warrant placement either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cuse9 128 Posted March 25, 2012 1980 To present.... 1. John Elway 2. Joe Montana 3. Peyton Manning 4. Tom Brady 5. Steve Young 6. Brett Favre 7. Dan Fouts 8. Warren Moon 9. Troy Aikman 10. Kurt Warner HM: Jim Kelly, Drew Brees, Jim Plunkett, Ron Jaworski, Drew Bledsoe, Bernie Kosar. The beginning to 1979... 1. Otto Graham 2. Bart Starr 3. Johnny Unitas 4. Sammy Baugh 5. Roger Staubach 6. Fran Tarkenton 7. Sid Luckman 8. Norm Van Brocklin 9. Len Dawson 10. Bobby Layne Sidenote: I love Terry Bradshaw, but I think he was a decent QB on a phenomenal team. Joe Namath. While I don't put him in the mix as greatest QB ever, I do think he is the most important player in NFL history. I think his win in Super Bowl three and the "arrogance" in which he did it legitimized the AFC as an equal and hence made the league stronger and what it is today! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walter34 3 Posted March 25, 2012 Its funny how the luster on Favre is faded because he was such an ass the last 3 or 4 years of his career. In time he may climb back up the list. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smileseers 54 Posted March 25, 2012 Sidenote: I love Terry Bradshaw, but I think he was a decent QB on a phenomenal team. I don't think that a "decent" QB wins back to back Super Bowl MVPs. Bradshaw is the only player to do that in history. His WR Lynn Swann won the MVP in Super Bowl X, Bradshaw in X111 and X1V. The Steelers would not have won 4 rings without Terry Bradshaw IMO. I think that he often gets less credit than he deserves because he played on a such a phenomenal team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cuse9 128 Posted March 25, 2012 I don't think that a "decent" QB wins back to back Super Bowl MVPs. Bradshaw is the only player to do that in history. His WR Lynn Swann won the MVP in Super Bowl X, Bradshaw in X111 and X1V. The Steelers would not have won 4 rings without Terry Bradshaw IMO. I think that he often gets less credit than he deserves because he played on a such a phenomenal team. That may be true? Super Bowl MVP's don't mean anything to me. Doug Williams, Larry Brown, Desmond Howard, Dexter Jackson....you simply need to play great for one game. Bradshaw had 300 yards, 2 TD's and 3 int's, not great, but nobody stood out in that game. His first MVP he clearly earned. Like I said though, I love the guy. For any arguement a person could give for Bradshaw's place in history, you give the equal arguement for Aikman. Both were QB's for dominate teams. I just think the ten guys I have ahead of him were better QB's. Not that Bradshaw wasn't the perfect fit for the Steelers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thre3Deep 0 Posted March 27, 2012 Remember seeing a article on Ken Anderson and was pretty impressed by his statistics and how they stacked up. They talked about the injustice of Ken not being in the HOF. They made a great case. just a snip of the NYT article. Anderson Career Stats vs. all Modern Era Hall of Fame Quarterbacks Player Att Comp Comp% Yards YPA TD INT Rating Aikman 4715 2898 61.5 32942 6.99 165 141 81.6 Anderson 4475 2654 59.3 32838 7.34 197 160 81.9 Blanda* 4007 1911 47.7 26920 6.72 236 277 60.6 Bradshaw 3901 2025 51.9 27989 7.18 212 210 70.9 Dawson* 3741 2136 57.1 28711 7.67 239 183 82.6 Elway 7250 4123 56.9 51475 7.10 300 226 79.9 Fouts 5604 3297 58.8 43040 7.68 254 242 80.2 Graham** 1565 872 55.7 13499 8.63 88 94 78.1 Griese* 3429 1926 56.2 25092 7.32 192 172 77.1 Jurgensen 4262 2433 57.1 32224 7.56 255 189 82.6 Kelly 4779 2874 60.1 35467 7.42 237 175 84.4 Layne 3700 1814 49.0 26768 7.24 196 243 63.4 Marino 8358 4967 59.4 61361 7.34 420 252 86.4 Montana 5391 3409 63.2 40551 7.52 273 139 92.3 Moon 6823 3988 58.4 49325 7.23 291 233 80.9 Namath* 3762 1886 50.1 27663 7.35 173 220 65.5 Starr 3149 1808 57.4 24718 7.85 152 138 80.5 Staubach 2958 1685 57.0 22700 7.67 153 109 83.4 Tarkenton 6467 3686 57.0 47003 7.27 342 266 80.4 Tittle 4395 2427 55.2 33070 7.52 242 248 74.3 Unitas 5186 2830 54.6 40239 7.76 290 253 78.2 Van Brocklin 2895 1553 53.6 23611 8.16 173 178 75.1 Waterfield 1617 814 50.3 11849 7.33 97 128 61.6 Young 4149 2667 64.3 33124 7.98 232 107 96.8 * Includes AFL statistics; ** NFL stats only (does not include AAFC years) Wow! Anderson’s statistical resume certainly stacks up nicely against the greatest quarterbacks of all time. Anderson ranks 15th out of 24 in average per pass attempt (7.338 Y.P.A.), just 4/1000th of a yard per attempt behind the great prolific Marino and well ahead of Live Ball Era Hall of Famers such as Elway (7.10 Y.P.A.) and Aikman (6.99 Y.P.A.) Anderson ranks 15th out of 24 in T.D. passes (197) Anderson ranks 12th out of 24 in passing yards (32,838), just 104 yards behind Troy Aikman (who needed 240 more attempts to get those 104 yards) Anderson ranks 11th out of 24 in completions (2,654) Anderson ranks 11th out of 24 in T.D.-INT ratio (1.23 to 1), well ahead of notable contemporaries such as Fouts (1.05 to 1). Anderson ranks 8th out of 24 in career passer rating (81.9), one of the highest marks of any quarterback who played all or part of his career in the Dead Ball Era, and ahead of Live Ball Era Hall of Famers Aikman, Moon and Elway. Anderson ranks 6th out of 24 in completion percentage (59.3) – the most accurate passer on the list among those quarterbacks who spent all or part of their careers playing before the Live Ball Era (1978-present). Remember, this is not how Anderson stacks up against a random collection of quarterbacks. This is how his statistical resume stacks up against the 23 greatest quarterbacks since World War II, those 23 already deemed worthy of immortality in Canton. Luis DeLoureiro operates NFLStatAnalysis.net and is a contributor to the Cold, Hard Football Facts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
