**Golf Talk** thread

[Cruzer 1,995]

I'm w/out question the smallest golfer here - but I hit is pretty well and out there with pretty good pop. In normal, calm conditions these are my #'s:

 

Drv- 260-270

5i - 185

7i - 162

9i - 138

sw - 95

 

I never have, rarely do - like to hit my wedges full. Maybe it's a result of growing up in the winds of Texas - I often knock down a pw from 100 yards.

[WhiteWonder 2,735]

It's mostly a gut feeling on Mahan. Admittedly, I don't like him. I think he is a dooshbag. So you can probably throw out everything I say. But for the top 50 players in the world, I don't think a WGC tournament causes anyone's ###### to tighten up like Majors do.

 

And while top 10's are nice, I dont remember Mahan ever even contending on a Sunday in a Major. Has he ever contended? For someone approaching double digit wins and a guy that has been ranked in the top 5 in the world, it's amazing to me that I don't remember him in the mix even once. I see he has missed the cut in 9 of his last 20 Majors also. 45%, ugh. It just feels like he plays poorly on that stage.

 

Now Westwood for example? He has contended tons of times. And I think he is the type that if he could get that first one, he may go on a short little Paddy type run where he could win 2-3 in the next couple of years.

 

All that being said, you are correct that its boring to just call for Tiger, Rory, and Phil. It's too easy. And it's something I am guilty of. So I'll give you that one.

 

WGC is not a major but outside of the majors, sawgrass and the ryder cup what more pressure packed events are there? As for contending, I can't remember the year but I do recall a Sunday at Augusta where Hunter was making a charge. Maybe the year Tiger and Phil opened well back and went real low on the front 9? Honestly idk.

 

I can understand if you think Hunter is a doosh. I mean not understand the doosh part but if thats how you feel than I understand your stance on him. I think tiger is the biggest doosh in golf though he has been a little better lately.

 

and by no means is Hunter my choice to win but he is in the handful of guys I would choose

[Cruzer 1,995]

I like Mahan, has always been approachable and cool to the fans - least here at Colonial. I think he gets a bad wrap for gagging the chip on the 18th hole of the Ryder Cup - the Americans gagged it up all over the place that week...... Hunter has a couple top 10 finishes at Augusta, but he's never really challenged for a win. Think he opened up with a low round in 2009 and held a part of the 1st round lead - but don't recall him ever really being in a chase for a green jacket. Mahan's problem is like a ton of others in his range - lack of clutch putting when it matters.

[cbfalcon 825]

In actually I felt sympathy for the gagged chip at the Ryder Cup. It was a moment that any weekend golfer should be able to empathize with.

 

My Mahan hate isn't based on anything concrete. I am sure he is a great guy. It's just sports hate. Something about the way he carries himself seems a little smarmy, combined with what looks like a top 5 talent, combined with the fact that I don't remember him ever competing for a major. It just feels like he is someone with all the talent, but he has underachieved, yet he walks around smarmy and acts like he has multiple majors.

 

I realize none of this is necessarily real. But it's the way sports goes. Once you start thinking someone is smarmy, you start seeing more than is really there. Next thing you know you are rooting against them. And so on. And I choose to embrace it because it makes sports fun.

 

So screw Mahan

[rallo 136]

In actually felt sympathy for the gagged chip at the Ryder Cup. It was a moment that any weekend golfer should be able to empathize with.

 

My Mahan hate isn't based on anything concrete. I am sure he is a great guy. It's just sports hate. Something about the way he carries himself seems a little smarmy, combined with what looks like a top 5 talent, combined with the fact that I don't remember him ever competing for a major. It just feels like he is someone with all the talent, but he has underachieved, yet he walks around smarmy and acts like he has multiple majors.

 

I realize none of this is necessarily real. But it's the way sports goes. Once you start thinking someone is smarmy, you start seeing more than is really there. Next thing you know you are rooting against them. And so on. And I choose to embrace it because it makes sports fun.

 

So screw Mahan

 

this... i am reminded of bodie miller

[WhiteWonder 2,735]

bodie miller? that makes no sense.

[WhiteWonder 2,735]

I like Mahan, has always been approachable and cool to the fans - least here at Colonial. I think he gets a bad wrap for gagging the chip on the 18th hole of the Ryder Cup - the Americans gagged it up all over the place that week...... Hunter has a couple top 10 finishes at Augusta, but he's never really challenged for a win. Think he opened up with a low round in 2009 and held a part of the 1st round lead - but don't recall him ever really being in a chase for a green jacket. Mahan's problem is like a ton of others in his range - lack of clutch putting when it matters.

 

absolutely. its not like the americans made this grand comeback and hunter choked it away. it was just the most visible of a line of american choke moments.

 

im certain there was a year where he was shown quite a few times on Sunday on the back 9. Obviously he must have faded but he was there.

 

now, he is one of my favorite golfers behind Phil. Hunter, DJ, Poulter... so im sure im a little biased, but i've never witnessed him walking around with a cocky attitude at any of the events i've been to.

[BufordT 434]

I like Mahan, has always been approachable and cool to the fans - least here at Colonial. I think he gets a bad wrap for gagging the chip on the 18th hole of the Ryder Cup - the Americans gagged it up all over the place that week...... Hunter has a couple top 10 finishes at Augusta, but he's never really challenged for a win. Think he opened up with a low round in 2009 and held a part of the 1st round lead - but don't recall him ever really being in a chase for a green jacket. Mahan's problem is like a ton of others in his range - lack of clutch putting when it matters.

I like Hunter, always have, but that guy looks like he's always high on something.

[cbfalcon 825]

so im sure im a little biased, but i've never witnessed him walking around with a cocky attitude at any of the events i've been to.

 

Oh he is a cocky sumbitch. That much is sure. How do I know? You can just tell. It's obvious. I bet he wears cologne during his rounds. And probably manties as well. And he probably has cristal champagne on ice at all times just in case he gets lucky and wins. Like i said, its obvious

 

I bet DJ is right there with him. I would bet my car they have tag teamed a chick together. But at least DJ is banging Paulina Gretzky and they post pics. So we get something out of his dooshyness.

[WhiteWonder 2,735]

Oh he is a cocky sumbitch. That much is sure. How do I know? You can just tell. It's obvious. I bet he wears cologne during his rounds. And probably manties as well. And he probably has cristal champagne on ice at all times just in case he gets lucky and wins. Like i said, its obvious

 

I bet DJ is right there with him. I would bet my car they have tag teamed a chick together. But at least DJ is banging Paulina Gretzky and they post pics. So we get something out of his dooshyness.

 

im pretty sure Tigger has tag teamed dozens of chicks but its cool cuz its Tiger right?

 

i can definitely see it with DJ though

[cbfalcon 825]

im pretty sure Tigger has tag teamed dozens of chicks but its cool cuz its Tiger right?

 

i can definitely see it with DJ though

 

Tag teaming chicks and wearing zebra undies is charming when you win. But you have to contend in majors to earn that right.

 

I imagine DJ banging actresses, Gulbis, and Gretzky, all on videtape. Then laughing about it and showing the video to Mahan. Then I imagine Mahan wanting to keep up, so he tries the same thing but the best he can do is some 7 from the 19th hole, and the videotape probably ends up with him being tied up and left for the maid to find the next day.

 

Can't expect a guy that can't contend on major Sundays to keep up with DJ or Tiger in the bedroom.

[ROCKFORD 134]

wat is smarmy?

[rallo 136]

bodie miller? that makes no sense.

 

i realize i am crossing sports here, but it's a little bit his false sense of accomplishment without living up to his potential, and the 'hype' delivered by all of the experts. maybe it's a bad comparison and maybe i'm being unfair, just reminds me of that situation

[WhiteWonder 2,735]

i realize i am crossing sports here, but it's a little bit his false sense of accomplishment without living up to his potential, and the 'hype' delivered by all of the experts. maybe it's a bad comparison and maybe i'm being unfair, just reminds me of that situation

 

idk, when i think of Bode Miller, I think of loud mouth who says stupid things in the media like competing drunk or whatever that whole deal was.

 

Hunter really isn't like that. i don't even think he'd make a top 10 list of personalities. Bubba Watson is more like that if anything with his general lee and never having taken lessons. Although I guess they are both members of the golf boyz

 

Granted i know a lot about golf and nothing about skiing, but did Bode Miller ever actually win anything? Hunter has won 5 PGA events including some against impressive fields.

[WhiteWonder 2,735]

i never saw this before so probable moon landing

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbn1-EUBswI

[Cruzer 1,995]

I'm prolly in the minority, but I think one of the problems with golf today is that there is too many nice guys out on tour. Back in the day we had incredible, controversial, exciting personalities. These guys added a ton of anxiety, at times tension, to the sport. The likes of Lanny Wadkins, Nick Faldo, Seve, Azinger, Monty, Johnny Miller - it was great. Now outside of the Ryder Cup it's like everyone is best friends out there.

[ROCKFORD 134]

Granted i know a lot about golf and nothing about skiing, but did Bode Miller ever actually win anything? Hunter has won 5 PGA events including some against impressive fields.

 

Born October 12, 1977 (age 35)

Easton, New Hampshire, United States

Height 1.88 m (6 ft 2 in)

World Cup debut November 20, 1997

(age 20)

Olympics

Teams 4 – (1998–2010)

Medals 5 (1 gold)

World Championships

Teams 7 – (1999–2011)

Medals 5 (4 gold)

World Cup

Seasons 15th – (1998–2012)

Wins 33

Podiums 75

Overall titles 2 – (2005, 2008)

Discipline titles 6 – (2 SG, 1 GS, 3 K)

Medal record[hide]

Men's alpine skiing

Competitor for the

United States

Olympic Games

Gold 2010 Vancouver Super Combined

Silver 2010 Vancouver Super-G

Silver 2002 Salt Lake Giant Slalom

Silver 2002 Salt Lake Combined

Bronze 2010 Vancouver Downhill

World Championships

Gold 2005 Bormio Downhill

Gold 2005 Bormio Super-G

Gold 2003 St. Moritz Giant Slalom

Gold 2003 St. Moritz Combined

Silver 2003 St. Moritz Super-G

 

Samuel Bode Miller (/ˈboʊdiː/; born October 12, 1977) is an American World Cup alpine ski racer with the U.S. Ski Team. He is an Olympic and World Championship gold medalist, a two-time overall World Cup champion in 2005 and 2008, and can therefore be considered the most successful male American alpine ski racer of all time (with only Lindsey Vonn surpassing him). Miller is also considered one of the greatest World Cup racers of all time with 33 victories, and is one of five men in history to win World Cup events in all five disciplines.[1]

 

In November 2004, Miller became the fifth and so far last man to win World Cup races in all five disciplines: slalom, giant slalom, Super-G, downhill, and combined − and today he is the only one with five or more victories in each discipline.

 

In 2008, Miller and Lindsey Vonn won the overall World Cup titles for the first U.S. sweep in 25 years.

 

He has won five medals in the Winter Olympics, the most of any U.S. skier − two silvers (giant slalom and combined) in Salt Lake City 2002, and a gold (super combined), a silver (Super G) and a bronze (downhill) in Vancouver 2010. Miller is one of five skiers who have won Olympic medals in four different disciplines, matching the feats of Kjetil André Aamodt and female racers Anja Pärson, Janica Kostelić, and Katja Seizinger.[2]

 

He has also won six discipline World Cups. On May 12, 2007, Miller left the U.S. Ski Team[3][4] and raced independently for his personally-financed "Team America" for two seasons. Miller departed the 2009 season before its completion and rejoined the U.S. Ski Team in October 2009.

[WhiteWonder 2,735]

 

 

all i saw was 1 gold.

[ROCKFORD 134]

all i saw was 1 gold.

 

cant you read?

He is an Olympic and World Championship gold medalist, a two-time overall World Cup champion in 2005 and 2008

[Frozenbeernuts 2,264]

Hit the links today, first time this year. Shot a 115. Yeah its terrible, and i had many a bad shot, but i had fun.

[WhiteWonder 2,735]

cant you read?

 

it was a bit of sarcasm. I dont know anything about skiing and what the world cup of skiing equates to. So the only thing that stood out to me was his 1 olympic gold medal.

 

even so, personality wise Bode Miller is nothing like Hunter Mahan. Hunter is a pretty soft spoken dude.

[heavy-set 39]

golf

 

[cbfalcon 825]

I played a new course to me. Cleburne Golf Links. It's links style, or at least as links style as it gets in Texas. On a lake, tons of wind. It was a fun changeup as I got to play make believe British Open golf. Have to say it was really easy. Wide open, not too long. Just a matter of hitting it solid so that the wind didnt affect the shot too much.

 

Made an adjustment with the driver and was lights out off the tee. Everything was in the fairway and a solid 260 yards on average. My irons and short game were piss poor. I am blaming it on a hangover.

 

I managed an 86. But it felt like poorly played golf. I'm kind of in one of those runs where there is just something always wrong with me or my game on a given day. And I keep walking off the course thinking I left 5-10 shots out there just by being sick, hurt, hungover, unfocused, or hung up on some swing change. "But next time!" That's what I keep telling myself. Next time will be different! As that 86 could have been an 81 with just a touch more focus and less booze the night prior.

[Cruzer 1,995]

I played a new course to me. Cleburne Golf Links. It's links style, or at least as links style as it gets in Texas. On a lake, tons of wind. It was a fun changeup as I got to play make believe British Open golf. Have to say it was really easy. Wide open, not too long. Just a matter of hitting it solid so that the wind didnt affect the shot too much.

Ever play Split Rail, Mansfield National, or Pecan Valley the Hills? If you like links type layouts - those are pretty good, least for our area.

[cbfalcon 825]

Ever play Split Rail, Mansfield National, or the Pecan Valley Hills? If you like links type layouts - those are pretty good, least for our area.

 

PV Hills many times. Never really thought of it as Links style. There was lots of talk of Spit Rail though. May have to try it.

 

This course was easy and not in amazing shape or anything. We played it because of an Ideal Golfer deal. But it was a fun change of pace.

[JTB 52]

I'm w/out question the smallest golfer here - but I hit is pretty well and out there with pretty good pop. In normal, calm conditions these are my #'s:

 

Drv- 260-270

5i - 185

7i - 162

9i - 138

sw - 95

 

I never have, rarely do - like to hit my wedges full. Maybe it's a result of growing up in the winds of Texas - I often knock down a pw from 100 yards.

 

 

Those numbers seem off to me...I will contend you score much lower than I, but the iron distances seem quite short compared to your drive.

 

My numbers are:

 

Drive - 275+

5 iron - 210

7 iron - 185

9 iron - 150

sw - 75 57 degree and can't get any distance!

[cbfalcon 825]

Those numbers seem off to me...I will contend you score much lower than I, but the iron distances seem quite short compared to your drive.

 

My numbers are:

 

Drive - 275+

5 iron - 210

7 iron - 185

9 iron - 150

sw - 75 57 degree and can't get any distance!

 

I've had long stretches of play in which I'm hitting the driver 270. But my irons are 2 clubs short of yours across the board.

 

I dial back my swing on my irons. I'm focused on crisp contact and consistent flight, as oppose to distance.

[JTB 52]

I've had long stretches of play in which I'm hitting the driver 270. But my irons are 2 clubs short of yours across the board.

 

I dial back my swing on my irons. I'm focused on crisp contact and consistent flight, as oppose to distance.

 

 

I understand completely.

 

I find when "cutting" my swing back and making crisp contact only furthers my distance.

[Cruzer 1,995]

Those numbers seem off to me...I will contend you score much lower than I, but the iron distances seem quite short compared to your drive.

My driver distance is not carry, it is about what I average when rolled out. My driver also has a bit different type shaft specs than my irons. Those I have stiffer, more fitted for accuracy than length. Even still 176 yard 6 iron distance is not short by any means.

[Cruzer 1,995]

PV Hills many times. Never really thought of it as Links style.

It's not - but for the area we live in, it is about as close as you can get and what we have to settle for.

[DankNuggs 305]

My driver distance is not carry, it is about what I average when rolled out. My driver also has a bit different type shaft specs than my irons. Those I have stiffer, more fitted for accuracy than length. Even still 176 yard 6 iron distance is not short by any means.

Depends on the lofts of your irons as well RBZ are roughly one club stronger than my hogans. Also do you naturally deloft the club in your swing will affect flight and distance characteristics.

 

I have a pretty high ball flight.

 

7i 155

8i 145

 

About 10 yds per club moving up or down.

[JTB 52]

Depends on the lofts of your irons as well RBZ are roughly one club stronger than my hogans. Also do you naturally deloft the club in your swing will affect flight and distance characteristics.

 

I have a pretty high ball flight.

 

7i 155

8i 145

 

About 10 yds per club moving up or down.

 

 

What Hogans do you play?

 

Hogan Apex Forged Pro's here.

[lambert58 71]

Ever play Split Rail, Mansfield National, or Pecan Valley the Hills? If you like links type layouts - those are pretty good, least for our area.

 

 

I've played Mansfield National numerous times and didn't think it was a links type course at all. Beautiful course if you can discount the power lines that I believe are on number two. Just seem out of place for the golf course.

[WhiteWonder 2,735]

Those numbers seem off to me...I will contend you score much lower than I, but the iron distances seem quite short compared to your drive.

 

My numbers are:

 

Drive - 275+

5 iron - 210

7 iron - 185

9 iron - 150

sw - 75 57 degree and can't get any distance!

 

there is so much that factors in. swing style, speed, shaft flex, shaft length: for example the Burner Superfast driver my father plays is an inch longer than my Rocketballz Tour. I could probably hit his driver farther but would have more of a tendency to spray it.

 

My Drives are probably 275+

 

yet my 7 iron is roughly 155-160

9 iron - 130-35

56* - 90-100

 

I have always been a high ball hitter with my irons. I play xforged 2009's with rifle 6.0

[Cruzer 1,995]

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I've played Mansfield National numerous times and didn't think it was a links type course at all. Beautiful course if you can discount the power lines that I believe are on number two. Just seem out of place for the golf course.

First 4 holes are, then a few on the back. Again, it's not a full links - but about as close as you can get around here.

 

 

[DankNuggs 305]

What Hogans do you play?

 

Hogan Apex Forged Pro's here.

Same, Apex Edge Pros whic are forged. I've posted my love of them here before. Will keep them as long as I can

[WhiteWonder 2,735]

i wouldn't call myself a tinkerer when it comes to equipment but every so often i just get the itch to replace something thats been in my bag for a while with something different. i suppose we all get that itch. new golf toys are fun.

 

right now i'm itching to get a new 3 hybrid but I hit my current one so well. trying to resist the urge. really want to put one of these in my bag http://golfio.com/index.php/price-drops-1/adams-idea-pro-black-hybrid.html

[cbfalcon 825]

i wouldn't call myself a tinkerer when it comes to equipment but every so often i just get the itch to replace something thats been in my bag for a while with something different. i suppose we all get that itch. new golf toys are fun.

 

right now i'm itching to get a new 3 hybrid but I hit my current one so well. trying to resist the urge. really want to put one of these in my bag http://golfio.com/index.php/price-drops-1/adams-idea-pro-black-hybrid.html

 

Im the opposite of a tinkerer with my equipment. (Whereas I can't stop tinkering with my damn swing).

 

I have basically replaced my entire set once since i started playing in 1996.

 

I'm fighting the urge to get a new 3 hybrid as well at the moment. I have a 10ish year old 20 degree heavenwood. IWhen I bought it I fancied myself a loyal Calloway guy (now just I could care less).. But my new irons (Razr X HL) include a hybrid replacement for the 4 and 5 irons. I can really feel the technology jump. It's almost got me feeling like that heavenwood unusable. I guess it is a decade old.

 

What are the hot hybrids right now? Back then all the hype was behind the Adams hybrids. Are they still the best?. Im all about game improvement. Get it in the air and hit it straight.

[WhiteWonder 2,735]

Im the opposite of a tinkerer with my equipment. (Whereas I can't stop tinkering with my damn swing).

 

I have basically replaced my entire set once since i started playing in 1996.

 

I'm fighting the urge to get a new 3 hybrid as well at the moment. I have a 10ish year old 20 degree heavenwood. IWhen I bought it I fancied myself a loyal Calloway guy (now just I could care less).. But my new irons (Razr X HL) include a hybrid replacement for the 4 and 5 irons. I can really feel the technology jump. It's almost got me feeling like that heavenwood unusable. I guess it is a decade old.

 

What are the hot hybrids right now? Back then all the hype was behind the Adams hybrids. Are they still the best?. Im all about game improvement. Get it in the air and hit it straight.

 

I never really had a problem hitting a 3 iron but I got my current hybrid.... 6 years ago I guess. I got the TaylorMade Rescue Dual TP, it was their second installment of the club. Bought it on ebay for a lot less than they were going for. Instantly knew I made the right call. Easy to hit from any lie. I even find them easy out of a fairway bunker. I will also default to it off the tee if im having driver trouble and I tend to use it a lot off the first tee if i havnt really warmed up yet.

 

My bag has always been a mixed bunch in terms of brand but I always considered myself a Callaway guy with my woods until recently.

 

As far as whats good now? I'm a little out of the loop and have not tested many of the new hybrids. I know the current Taylor Made's have all gone the way of the white crown like their drivers and fairway woods. If you don't mind that look, the RBZ might be worth a try. If you don't need a current model, I would have suggested the Rescue Dual to anyone. Not sure where you can find one but probably pre owned on ebay

[rallo 136]

I never really had a problem hitting a 3 iron but I got my current hybrid.... 6 years ago I guess. I got the TaylorMade Rescue Dual TP, it was their second installment of the club. Bought it on ebay for a lot less than they were going for. Instantly knew I made the right call. Easy to hit from any lie. I even find them easy out of a fairway bunker. I will also default to it off the tee if im having driver trouble and I tend to use it a lot off the first tee if i havnt really warmed up yet.

 

My bag has always been a mixed bunch in terms of brand but I always considered myself a Callaway guy with my woods until recently.

 

As far as whats good now? I'm a little out of the loop and have not tested many of the new hybrids. I know the current Taylor Made's have all gone the way of the white crown like their drivers and fairway woods. If you don't mind that look, the RBZ might be worth a try. If you don't need a current model, I would have suggested the Rescue Dual to anyone. Not sure where you can find one but probably pre owned on ebay

 

 

i tested a few out recently... hands down best hybrid i've hit is the adams super xtd... the thing flies from any lie. I put it up against the rbz, cobra baffler, and the pingi20... it wasn't even close. It was around 10 yards farther than the baffler or ping, and about 5 farther than the rbz, yet the ball flight was higher.

 

The only negative would be if you can't get over the slot out of the crown... it was weird at first, but once you see how the ball comes off of the club face you won't care anymore.

 

golfwrx guys seem to love it too

xtd