**Golf Talk** thread

[DankNuggs 305]

 

Worst idea ever are mulligans for a 4 man scramble

They generate more money for the charity or whatever it is, definitely from a competition standpoint people cheat and these give people more onus to cheat. But scrambles should be fun...

[edjr 6,580]

They generate more money for the charity or whatever it is, definitely from a competition standpoint people cheat and these give people more onus to cheat. But scrambles should be fun...

I love scrambles, but refuse to play in one that offers mulligans.

[Cruzer 1,995]

I love scrambles, but refuse to play in one that offers mulligans.

People are going to take them anyways in a scramble - at least this way the charity gets to make some money off of it.

 

Played in a charity scramble earlier in the year - they sold strings. Two of the guys on my team were millionaires - they each bought $250 bucks of string (at $5 a pop). We shot 36.

[cbfalcon 825]

Played Fossil Creek yesterday. I wasn't striping it, but was avoiding mistakes. 10 pars and 7 bogeys through 17. Meaning I needed a birdie for 79.

 

18 is a par 5 in which you have to hit your ball about 200 yards off the tee. Anything short, long, right, or left is either blocked out, in the creek, in a bunker, or lost. That leaves you with a hard left over a creek and about 260 yards to the green.....I got too aggressive and put it in a bunker. Needing birdie, I tried to hit hybrid out of the bunker. Caught the lip, into the creek 75 yards ahead. Dead. Triple bogey 8 for an 83.

[DankNuggs 305]

40-38 yesterday... Feels great to be called a sandbagger with a 12hcp... There was more in the bag too, lipped out 3 under 10ft birdie putts... really playing solid all around golf.

[DankNuggs 305]

Played Fossil Creek yesterday. I wasn't striping it, but was avoiding mistakes. 10 pars and 7 bogeys through 17. Meaning I needed a birdie for 79.

 

18 is a par 5 in which you have to hit your ball about 200 yards off the tee. Anything short, long, right, or left is either blocked out, in the creek, in a bunker, or lost. That leaves you with a hard left over a creek and about 260 yards to the green.....I got too aggressive and put it in a bunker. Needing birdie, I tried to hit hybrid out of the bunker. Caught the lip, into the creek 75 yards ahead. Dead. Triple bogey 8 for an 83.

Thought you couldn't take a triple on a gin card with a HCP under 15 or so....

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,432]

Thought you couldn't take a triple on a gin card with a HCP under 15 or so....

 

Max 7 under Equitable Scoring. There is a difference between what you shoot and what you post.

[cbfalcon 825]

Thought you couldn't take a triple on a gin card with a HCP under 15 or so....

 

 

As much as I play, you'd think I'd be more familiar with gin cards. Tell me what I can use that for.... I basically play for fun, keep score and stats on a free website, and whatever it spits back at me is what I will claim to be true in conversation.

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,432]

 

 

As much as I play, you'd think I'd be more familiar with gin cards. Tell me what I can use that for.... I basically play for fun, keep score and stats on a free website, and whatever it spits back at me is what I will claim to be true in conversation.

 

GHIN is a handicap that is used for USGA authorized events.

[Cruzer 1,995]

http://www.ghin.com/

[cbfalcon 825]

 

GHIN is a handicap that is used for USGA authorized events.

 

I knew that much, but didn't know why I needed one.

 

Or put another way, when Dank brought it up, I assumed I was missing something. Do most of you guys play USGA events that require one? I've never even considered it. I golf with family and friends and give my handicap on the rare occasion for gambling. But it's mostly a personal tool I use to track improvement.

[edjr 6,580]

40-38 yesterday... Feels great to be called a sandbagger with a 12hcp... There was more in the bag too, lipped out 3 under 10ft birdie putts... really playing solid all around golf.

 

Go fock yourself. I broke my 4 and 5 iron yesterday. 4 iron I broke on a bridge in the fairway and the 5 iron i broke hitting my push cart.

 

I ordered a anger management book from Amazon today.

[parrot 789]

 

Go fock yourself. I broke my 4 and 5 iron yesterday. 4 iron I broke on a bridge in the fairway and the 5 iron i broke hitting my push cart.

 

I ordered a anger management book from Amazon today.

 

One thing I've never done is breaking a club in anger. Did throw my favorite wedge in a pond once though. I loved that club.

[DankNuggs 305]

 

I knew that much, but didn't know why I needed one.

 

Or put another way, when Dank brought it up, I assumed I was missing something. Do most of you guys play USGA events that require one? I've never even considered it. I golf with family and friends and give my handicap on the rare occasion for gambling. But it's mostly a personal tool I use to track improvement.

I don't enter any scores or have a handicap, or spell gin as ghin.... Guys i play with do all of that...I did have a situation for an event that they wanted a real HCP and not my usual 'estimated HCP'

 

I feel like I should now that my scores have been dropping like crazy.

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,432]

 

I knew that much, but didn't know why I needed one.

 

Or put another way, when Dank brought it up, I assumed I was missing something. Do most of you guys play USGA events that require one? I've never even considered it. I golf with family and friends and give my handicap on the rare occasion for gambling. But it's mostly a personal tool I use to track improvement.

 

I used to have a handicap for various little tournaments. I have not had one for the last 2 years and it has not affected my ability to play in different events. I do keep track of all of my scores and can calculate my handicap if I really needed to.

[DankNuggs 305]

 

Go fock yourself. I broke my 4 and 5 iron yesterday. 4 iron I broke on a bridge in the fairway and the 5 iron i broke hitting my push cart.

 

I ordered a anger management book from Amazon today.

Use a 4H instead of an iron... I tried to hit my friends RBZ stage 2 3H, and I couldn't get it off the ground. I have some old nike sumo 3H, 4H, and a burner 3W and i hit all of them confidently. Really wanted to see that extra 20 yds they claim from the RBZ but i couldn't hit it the two times i tried.

[Cruzer 1,995]

Usually if you belong to a club it is part of your membership and the staff will do it for you. Ours is a bit different in that the club does set it up and all - but the members responsible for posting their own scores. Pisses me off bcoz most never enter all of their scores. I do, but most don't.

[DankNuggs 305]

Usually if you belong to a club it is part of your membership and the staff will do it for you. Ours is a bit different in that the club does set it up and all - but the members responsible for posting their own scores. Pisses me off bcoz most never enter all of their scores. I do, but most don't.

They end up being the types that never beat their handicap.

 

My match this weekend i got teamed up with a kid who claimed to be a zero HCP... he must have shot an 85, and we lost 2 and 2 only because I was going off. We were dormie w 4 to play, told them i going to even it up. Won the next two holes, and was within 7 ft for a bird on 17 when the other team drained a 30 ft putt for bird that guaranteed the push and the win. 78,78,79,85 were the scores of the group, awesome golf all around except for the kid....

[edjr 6,580]

 

One thing I've never done is breaking a club in anger. Did throw my favorite wedge in a pond once though. I loved that club.

 

I was talking to my buddy yesterday that I golf with and if I couldn't afford to get re-shafting my clubs and had to play with clubs I hadn't broken this year I'd only have a 60, 52, 9 iron, 8 iron, 4 hybrid and driver in the bag

[Cruzer 1,995]

They end up being the types that never beat their handicap.

Yea.... But I tell you what, I still don't uderstand the math behind determining the actual ghin number. I haven't played worth a shiat, or even close to, my index and it still remains low. High rounds seem to have no effect on the calculation - but boy let me tell you, one 73 will fock you in da ass.

[DankNuggs 305]

Yea.... But I tell you what, I still don't uderstand the math behind determining the actual ghin number. I haven't played worth a shiat, or even close to, my index and it still remains low. High rounds seem to have no effect on the calculation - but boy let me tell you, one 73 will fock you in da ass.

As I understand it, they throw out the outliers, and it skews towards your POTENTIAL rather than a strict average of your scores. I thought i heard they use a rolling last 10 rounds or so and throw out the high and low scores.

 

My buddy has been going well below his index the last bunch of times we've played, and i asked him how his index was looking and he says it just stays the same. Didn't make sense to me.

[cbfalcon 825]

As I understand it, they throw out the outliers, and it skews towards your POTENTIAL rather than a strict average of your scores. I thought i heard they use a rolling last 10 rounds or so and throw out the high and low scores.

 

My buddy has been going well below his index the last bunch of times we've played, and i asked him how his index was looking and he says it just stays the same. Didn't make sense to me.

 

I've read recently that it's the 10 best scores in your last 20 rounds used only. Then that total is multiplied by .96 to get the handicap. So bad scores don't matter.

[Johnson Rose 1]

played Saturday. had an AWFUL front 9 48 which included a 10 on a par 5. Then on the back I shoot 41 with 19 putts.

[Cruzer 1,995]

As I understand it, they throw out the outliers, and it skews towards your POTENTIAL rather than a strict average of your scores.

Ha, well hot damn - Enron's Mark-to-Market accounting scheme makes its way to golf!

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,432]

As I understand it, they throw out the outliers, and it skews towards your POTENTIAL rather than a strict average of your scores. I thought i heard they use a rolling last 10 rounds or so and throw out the high and low scores.

 

My buddy has been going well below his index the last bunch of times we've played, and i asked him how his index was looking and he says it just stays the same. Didn't make sense to me.

They use the lowest 10 differentials from your last 20 scores. The differential is based on slope, rating of the course. It is very easy to know your handicap if you have the scores, slopes and ratings.

[DankNuggs 305]

Geek bored taught me something new today

[edjr 6,580]

Geek bored taught me something new today

How to tie a noose?

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,432]

For those who care, the calculation is

 

Handicap Differential = (Adjusted Gross Score - USGA Course Rating) x 113 / Slope Rating

http://www.usga.org/Rule-Books/Handicap-System-Manual/Rule-10/

 

You can use this to do your own handicap calculations. I created a quick spreadsheet that does it for me if I put in the score, slope and course rating for each round. There is then a little macro that resorts everything and uses only the 10 lowest scores.

[edjr 6,580]

For those who care, the calculation is

 

http://www.usga.org/Rule-Books/Handicap-System-Manual/Rule-10/

 

You can use this to do your own handicap calculations. I created a quick spreadsheet that does it for me if I put in the score, slope and course rating for each round. There is then a little macro that resorts everything and uses only the 10 lowest scores.

 

Speaking of Slopes, we got paired up with an Asian guy yesterday in our group

[patweisers44 845]

42 yesterday in my league with 4, count 'em 4, three-putts. Normally putting is my strong suit. Maybe i shouldnt play when i am NOT hungover.

 

Leaving friday for year 21 of an annual golf weekend. Playing four courses south of cleveland (Hawthorne Valley, Punderson, Chardon Lakes, and Boulder Creek), and then hitting the TIgers game (@ Cleveland) monday night. Normally we play in Northern Michigan, but we have deferred the last couple years to two guys that drive up from Cleveland area every year.

[swirvenirvin 25]

I've never seen something like this. Then again, I never get worked up over anything that happens in a scramble - or team type events. There is so much bs, brother-n-lawing, and shadiness in those that the only thing to do is enjoy being out, drink some brews, and have a good time.

normally yes, neother do I, but this is the 2nd year in a row where we came one out of money, last year they gave chicks 3 focking strokes. And there was a team of 4 decent chicks that shot 2 over par and ended up 10 under

[swirvenirvin 25]

 

Never played in one like that. However, I have seen mulligans in these events that can be purchased. Bottom line is that just about any scramble is a joke, so don't expect that it is going to be based on skill.

Yep this one had $5 for mulligans also. Since this is for work, and we don't get any money from the govt obvioulsy I am OK with it only because it generates prize money. But in general very dumb to have mulligans for a 4 man scramble. We only had 18 teams, and it still took 5 focking hours to play. DUMB

[edjr 6,580]

Yep this one had $5 for mulligans also. Since this is for work, and we don't get any money from the govt obvioulsy I am OK with it only because it generates prize money. But in general very dumb to have mulligans for a 4 man scramble. We only had 18 teams, and it still took 5 focking hours to play. DUMB

 

I play in a 36 team scramble, 4 people a team, 2 groups per hole. Starts at 8, ends around 1

[swirvenirvin 25]

 

I play in a 36 team scramble, 4 people a team, 2 groups per hole. Starts at 8, ends around 1

yes 36 team should be be right around 5 hours maybe 5:15

 

This one started a little late but was very close to 5 hours. Teams were two holes behind what a cluster fock

[Cruzer 1,995]

Finally seemed to find it again y-day. Was 1 under after 12....Then I woke up, finished bogey, bogey, double, bogey for 74.

 

Watching some of the action y-day on the Golf Channel - something I do not understand. TW's history on par 70 courses is not good - epseically in the majors. Yet he has completely owned and dominated Firestone - winning 7 times there. I don't get it.

[Cruzer 1,995]

Club championship in the books - another two days of focked up, unexplainable golf. Out of the gates with a stellar 40 day 1, turned it around and shot even on the back for 75. 1 over thru 9 Day 2 - sloppy ass 41 on the back for 77. Just could never catch a break all weekend long, also never seemed to shake four 3-putts. O'well, it was fun live and learn.

 

TW dominates Firestone once again - which makes no sense. He should lobby the USGA to host an Open there......... I'd still take the field over him this week at Oak Hill.

[cbfalcon 825]

Club championship in the books - another two days of focked up, unexplainable golf. Out of the gates with a stellar 40 day 1, turned it around and shot even on the back for 75. 1 over thru 9 Day 2 - sloppy ass 41 on the back for 77. Just could never catch a break all weekend long, also never seemed to shake four 3-putts. O'well, it was fun live and learn.

 

TW dominates Firestone once again - which makes no sense. He should lobby the USGA to host an Open there......... I'd still take the field over him this week at Oak Hill.

Played Sky Creek Ranch for the first time....First off....awesomely nice. But overall I got my ass kicked.

 

First time this year I've putted on bentgrass greens. 3 putted the first 2 holes. Course strategy hurt me. The entire front side I seemed to be laying back off the tee with irons, and leaving longer shots into the green. Then any missed green is pretty penal on that course, often with water, ob, or deep rough. Out in 47.....Backside I said "fucck it" and pulled driver every chance I had. Granted, it's a bit more conducive to it, but the mindset helped I think. Recovered with a 41.

 

So 88 is my highest round in a few months, but it was a tough course. Quite enjoyed it though.

[edjr 6,580]

The way Tiger is driving right now, he has little to no chance to win the PGA.

 

 

He is still hitting it all over the focking place with his driver.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

The way Tiger is driving right now, he has little to no chance to win the PGA.

 

 

He is still hitting it all over the focking place with his driver.

His putting was amazing, but I agree that he cannot drive right now and you can't win majors without driving well. He tries to hide it by playing 3 woods off the tee or long irons on the par 5's, but still, that is not his game.

[edjr 6,580]

His putting was amazing, but I agree that he cannot drive right now and you can't win majors without driving well. He tries to hide it by playing 3 woods off the tee or long irons on the par 5's, but still, that is not his game.

 

he could have easily won by 15 this week if he drove the ball even halfway decent.