cooolbreeze 0 Posted August 17, 2012 I'm cleaning up my rankings before my draft on Monday. I'm in a ppr league where we can start up to 4 wrs so I'm going WR heavy early. This means I'll be looking to fill my #2 rb in the later rounds. I'm thinking at some point I will have to chose between Peyton Hillis and CJ Spiller. I like Hillis to bounce back this year, I really do. But, Spiller was nasty towards the end of last year when they figured out how to use him, especially in ppr So, in a PPR league who would you want as your #2 RB? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cooolbreeze 0 Posted August 17, 2012 I started this in the wrong forum, sorry...here is the link in the Little Help forum. http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=404306 Will answer yours if you leave a link Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flgatorguy87 160 Posted August 17, 2012 I started this in the wrong forum, sorry...here is the link in the Little Help forum. http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=404306 Will answer yours if you leave a link I think your good in this forum, I'd be interested to see what everyone says about Spiller who I am not very high on...mostly because I think Fjax still will have enough in the tank for 1 more season. I also think the Chiefs line will be solid and Hillis should get 200 or more carries. You can't say those things about Spiller. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Moemoney 8 Posted August 17, 2012 IMO, this is simply a no brainer. Hills has value, good value, even with a healthy Charles in the backfield. Spiller has marginal talent and needs an injury to FJax to have any value. No comparison between the two. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ace08 11 Posted August 17, 2012 Hillis, and it's pretty clear in my eyes. Not only is he going to get early down work, but people forget Hillis is a decent receiver himself out of the backfield. I know Charles will get most of the receptions but I think Hillis will get his. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted August 17, 2012 If you compare their ADP hillis is going a full 2 rounds earlier. CJ Spiller is going until 7.11 which is absurd but good for me since I am as big a Spiller fan as any. I think both will put up similar numbers this year. I wasn't as high on Hillis as many were but after the first game Hillis did look good and it looks like the rushing attack in KC is going to get a lot of opportunity for production. It depends on how their defense fairs. If the Chiefs D can play respectable D they will have the luxury of wearing down the clock with the run game. With Spiller I see him being more involved in the passing attack. For ppr leagues I view him as more valuable with his current ADP. Spiller is the future RB in Buffalo. FJax is 31 this season and I don't care if he has had limited action, he is 31. I am not saying FJax will not produce this year but his time is coming to an end very quickly. Spiller will be taking over the lion's share of touches at the earliest later this year, at the latest next year. One strategy I would definitely employ is grabbing Spiller if I draft FJax. At FJax's current ADP I will definitely not be drafting him though. If you have both and one goes down, you have a RB1 on your hands. If you have both you probably have a 2 RB2 and at worst a RB3 on your team. RB3 at 7.11 with the potential to produce like a RB1 if the situation is right is worth a late pick to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mustard Lover 3 Posted August 17, 2012 I don't think you need to choose between them, you may be able to get both. I'd keep thoughts on "choose between two players" to the early rounds. If you are going WR heavy earlier then you should be able to take a few RBs in back to back rounds later. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JtmoneyJag 25 Posted August 17, 2012 I luckily have both and not to brag, but got Hillis in the 8th and CJ Spiller in the 10th, oh yeah! (wasn't ppr though). But to answer the question, Hillis just because we know he will have more touches, plus Charles you still don't know about. I think CJ could be big as the year goes on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleDog 816 Posted August 17, 2012 I want to say Spiller, but jeesh - a first round RB who's entering his 3rd year and still can't beat out a 31 y.o. un-drafted free agent? Clearly, Spiller isn't the talent the Bills hoped for when they drafted him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLS 313 Posted August 17, 2012 I like Hillis but Spiller is intriguing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Portis26 0 Posted August 17, 2012 Bills realized spiller can produce if given the chance.. so I'm high in him this year as I think he'll start season as the #2 back but eventually IMO he will get more touches then Freddie Jackson . Plus he is dynamic receiver out of backfield - moreso then Jackson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TwentyFourSeven 23 Posted August 17, 2012 Bills realized spiller can produce if given the chance.. so I'm high in him this year as I think he'll start season as the #2 back but eventually IMO he will get more touches then Freddie Jackson . Plus he is dynamic receiver out of backfield - moreso then Jackson He's not just a dynamic receiver out of the backfield, he's a dynamic receiver. He will line up there fairly often. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleDog 816 Posted August 17, 2012 he'll start season as the #2 back but eventually IMO he will get more touches then Freddie Jackson . Plus he is dynamic receiver out of backfield - moreso then Jackson I thought the exact same thing!!! Each of the past 2 years that I drafted him. The Bills invested a #9th overall draft pick in 2010 on this guy, and he's still #2 on the depth chart behind a 31 yo RB.?. If Spiller falls really late in the draft I guess I'd drink the cool-aid one more time, but jeesh... talk about underachieving. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Portis26 0 Posted August 18, 2012 I thought the exact same thing!!! Each of the past 2 years that I drafted him. The Bills invested a #9th overall draft pick in 2010 on this guy, and he's still #2 on the depth chart behind a 31 yo RB.?. If Spiller falls really late in the draft I guess I'd drink the cool-aid one more time, but jeesh... talk about underachieving. This is make or break year IMO! Year 1 - he wasn't ready, he wasn't a pro Year 2 - he had to play when Freddie went down , and he played well. Year 3 - fantasy stud I like him as a third fantasy RB that will be solid 2 by mid season Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TwentyFourSeven 23 Posted August 18, 2012 C.J. Spiller & Fred Jackson are playing against the Vikings right now. They've been on the field together every single play, except third and long they had 5 wide going, Jackson came off, Spiller lined up as a WR. Jackson did get the ball more, & when C.J. got it, there was no blocking. EDIT: As I type this, they're trying to get their FB in there, it looks like just to give him a look. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaxjag 43 Posted August 18, 2012 I want to say Spiller, but jeesh - a first round RB who's entering his 3rd year and still can't beat out a 31 y.o. un-drafted free agent? Clearly, Spiller isn't the talent the Bills hoped for when they drafted him. Your making too big a deal of Jackson being undrafted. Arian Foster wasn't drafted; Brady was a 6th round pick; etc. The draft isn't an exact science. What do your eyeballs tell you about Fred Jackson? The guy can play. On the flip side, Spiller is still a kid and it can take time to become acclimated to the NFL. I like Spiller. I think he has value even with a healthy Jackson, especially in PPR formats. High upside in the event of a Jackson injury too! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MissionCoach 4 Posted August 18, 2012 The light bulb went off for Spiller last year. I would not hesitate to pull the trigger on either Hillis or Spiller, would love to have both on my roster as RB 2 and 2A, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleDog 816 Posted August 18, 2012 Your making too big a deal of Jackson being undrafted. Arian Foster wasn't drafted; Brady was a 6th round pick; etc. The draft isn't an exact science. That's the debate. Is Spiller really that bad or is Jackson just that good? It's probably a little of both, but one thing is for sure - no team drafts a player 9th OVERALL and expects him to be #2 on depth chart for the next 3 years. Obviously Spiller has been a huge disappointment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fantasymind 1 Posted August 18, 2012 The first two years of Spiller's career reminds me (tho not for the exact same reasons) of another highly drafted back who, after two seasons, showed flashes but was widely considered on his way to bustville...I had drafted him his first two years and was extremely disappointed...in year three, I found myself saying his name again in the fourteenth round, followed by, "I can't believe I am putting this turd on my squad for a third straight year!" That "turd' ended up being a key cog to winning a title that year named Darren McFadden. If Spiller doesn't put it all together this year, than call him Felix Jones 2.0...but, let's see if year three can be for him what it was for DMC... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
