swirvenirvin 25 Posted December 29, 2013 Gonna put this to vote in one of my leagues. Will add a 3 WR in its place. It makes sense right? WTF knows whether a PK is gonna score you 20 points or 1 pt from week to week. (Justin Tucker). They are drafted with the last pick in the draft and no one really knows who the fock the top 5 PK are going to be from yr to yr, It's a gimmick position and done in leagues because thats the way it has always been. I think the vote will pass if people think about it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted December 29, 2013 After this year, a case could be made for eliminating the TE position as well. Outside 4 guys (Graham, Gronk, Cameron and Thomas) the rest are crap shoots. I would vote to keep them (both TE and PK). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swirvenirvin 25 Posted December 29, 2013 After this year, a case could be made for eliminating the TE position as well. Outside 4 guys (Graham, Gronk, Cameron and Thomas) the rest are crap shoots. I would vote to keep them (both TE and PK). traditionalist!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
plasma george 52 Posted December 29, 2013 After this year, a case could be made for eliminating the TE position as well. Outside 4 guys (Graham, Gronk, Cameron and Thomas) the rest are crap shoots. I would vote to keep them (both TE and PK). You forgot Vernon witten GonzalezTEs are fine., mistake to compare them to Kickers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Goomy Noomy Roo 47 Posted December 29, 2013 keep the pk...just another gamble like everything else Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheUsualSuspect 207 Posted December 29, 2013 Starting a kicker as a flex could be interesting... Although the ceiling is not nearly as high as a WR, you are typically ensured 4-12 points depending on your scoring. With that said, how about K/TE flex only position? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smashmouths@blf 33 Posted December 29, 2013 Keep the Kicker. Just lower the scoring for the position. Just adds a different element. I would add another WR like you said and lower the points that a kicker can score. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swirvenirvin 25 Posted December 29, 2013 Keep the Kicker. Just lower the scoring for the position. Just adds a different element. I would add another WR like you said and lower the points that a kicker can score. its as low as it goes 3 pts for fg and 1 for xp. its just so focking random. You tell me your top 10 pk next yr, and I will guarantee 7 of them are not in the top 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smashmouths@blf 33 Posted December 29, 2013 its as low as it goes 3 pts for fg and 1 for xp. its just so focking random. You tell me your top 10 pk next yr, and I will guarantee 7 of them are not in the top 10 I agree with you, but it does offer a different element to the fantasy experience. You could say the same thing about Defenses each year too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,460 Posted December 29, 2013 Gonna put this to vote in one of my leagues. Will add a 3 WR in its place. It makes sense right? WTF knows whether a PK is gonna score you 20 points or 1 pt from week to week. (Justin Tucker). They are drafted with the last pick in the draft and no one really knows who the fock the top 5 PK are going to be from yr to yr, It's a gimmick position and done in leagues because thats the way it has always been. I think the vote will pass if people think about it i see no problem with it . the leagues i am in all of them only fg count from the kicker position . so i would vote yes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uwmalcolm 73 Posted December 29, 2013 We got rid of kickers in 2 of my leagues a few years ago and no one has ever said they miss it. It's just so flukey, as you mentioned. People can say defenses are the same but matchups matter a lot more for D/ST even though there is a decent amount of variance due to D/ST touchdowns. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chroniciguana 13 Posted December 29, 2013 its just so focking random. The difference between the No. 1 kicker (Gostkowski) and the No. 12 kicker (Gould) - and your scoring system mileage might vary - was only 29 points on the season, or just over 1.8 points per game. Tucker's "fluke" 22 point outing in Week 15 likely won a few semi-final games, but his 1 point performance in Week 16 didn't do much for your title hopes. Way too "focking random." Kill the kicker. But TEs are different, of course. No flukes here. If you had Graham rostered, you averaged 7.4 points more per game than the poor slob who was stuck with the No. 12 TE (Fleener). Graham likely got you to the playoffs. Then came that Week 15 semi-final game where Tucker blew up, and Graham crapped the bed with just 2.5 "fluke" points. Meanwhile, the guy who started 18th-ranked Tim Wright was ringing up more than 14 points. And your season was over. On a "focking random" fluke. How is that fair? Get rid of TEs, too. Now, about RBs ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murf74 461 Posted December 29, 2013 Trying to get rid of kickers in my league. Can't wait 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ampheels 3 Posted December 31, 2013 tried to get rid of kickers in both leagues but failed, the compromise was an adjustment to scoring....no points for XP's, all field goals = 2 points, misses under 50 yards= -1...under this format the 12th best kicker finished only 1.2 points per week behind the #1 performer in 2012 the top 12 kickers made 89% of all kicks, that # drops dramatically to 65% for those over 50+ yards...i used those numbers to justify the scoring change Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vikings4ever 496 Posted December 31, 2013 After this year, a case could be made for eliminating the TE position as well. Outside 4 guys (Graham, Gronk, Cameron and Thomas) the rest are crap shoots. I would vote to keep them (both TE and PK). TE at least brings some strategy into the equation. PKs (and defenses for that matter) are complete crapshoots week to week and year to year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ffgiant 10 Posted December 31, 2013 Agree with most. PK is just too inconsistent a position. I guess most people just got used to have a starting spot for it. I will try to start some leagues with no PK next year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites