Mozilla CEO forced to resign for opposing gay marriage

[TimmySmith 2,783]

 

The queers have all the same rights as everybody else, you dumb fock country bumpkin. Not one thing is different.

Yep. And Newbie wants to compare them to women and blacks as if women and blacks have a choice about what they are.

[MDC 7,590]

He's a moron who can't debate without dropping tasteless bombs. Like most liberals, he probably has no friends with opposing viewpoints, so he thinks he's right all the time.

What part of what I said was tasteless? Calling the anti-gay right out on their hypocrisy when they cry about censorship in the workplace?

[phillybear 366]

None of which has anything to do with the fact that businesses set standards of behavior for employees all the time, it's not a free speech or amendment issue at all, and the only reason you complain is that you share the same views as the CEO in question.

 

Boo hoo hoo!

 

Standard of behavior? What did the guy do? Commit a murder? Touch a kid? DUI? Fock a cat?

 

Oh, he made a political donation. He got drummed out a job for being a run of the mill conservative. That's shenanigans and bullsh!t if I've ever seen it. The government is saying you can't refuse to provide certain drugs to customers due to your religious beliefs, but you can go ahead and fire someone because they are against gay marriage. Where is the consistency?

 

My views are that I don't want the queers to get special rights. Right now everybody is equal. If the rules change, then make sure that single people aren't getting shafted as a result.

[Googballz 39]

The real irony is that you called me a bigot for criticizing a bigot for his bigoted beliefs.

Did you call Obama a bigot all those years he opposed ghey marriage?

 

Ima go out on a limb and guess that you didn't.

[TimmySmith 2,783]

What part of what I said was tasteless? Calling the anti-gay right out on their hypocrisy when they cry about censorship in the workplace?

There was no censorship in the workplace, so your swastika comment was tasteless and off topic.

[phillybear 366]

Jumping Jehosophat, I'm so focking sick of this stupid focking queer marriage issue. It's so far down the list of what is important that it just doesn't register at all.

 

Nobody should lose their job over their opinion on it, one way or the other. That's the point. People have become so entitled, they demand that everybody needs to agree with all their opinions too. No. You have to defend the rights of people with different opinions, you focking focks. Fock.

[MDC 7,590]

 

Standard of behavior? What did the guy do? Commit a murder? Touch a kid? DUI? Fock a cat?

 

Oh, he made a political donation. He got drummed out a job for being a run of the mill conservative. That's shenanigans and bullsh!t if I've ever seen it. The government is saying you can't refuse to provide certain drugs to customers due to your religious beliefs, but you can go ahead and fire someone because they are against gay marriage. Where is the consistency?

 

My views are that I don't want the queers to get special rights. Right now everybody is equal. If the rules change, then make sure that single people aren't getting shafted as a result.

I am guessing his employer asked him to step down because he recently defended his views, not because he made a contribution years ago. They made the decision that it would not be good for business to have a CEO who holds views that are unpopular with the public. This has nothing to do with the first amendment and everything to do with a private company making a calculated business decision. The only reason you care is because the poor CEO shares your views.

[NewbieJr 541]

 

The queers have all the same rights as everybody else, you dumb fock country bumpkin. Not one thing is different.

Except being able to get married. Have their life partner on their insurance. Things like that. Yeah. Exact same rights as everybody else.

[MDC 7,590]

There was no censorship in the workplace, so your swastika comment was tasteless and off topic.

Oh I'm sorry Timmy. I was facetiously making the point that companies have always had limits on self expression. I didn't mean to hurt your feelings.

[NewbieJr 541]

I am guessing his employer asked him to step down because he recently defended his views, not because he made a contribution years ago. They made the decision that it would not be good for business to have a CEO who holds views that are unpopular with the public. This has nothing to do with the first amendment and everything to do with a private company making a calculated business decision. The only reason you care is because the poor CEO shares your views.

The retarded right can't separate freedom of speech with business decisions. Call me when that clown gets arrested for his views. Otherwise, it's just one of thousands of firings that companies make daily to try to make their money. Something I thought the wealthy right was in support of. Hmmm, crazy how that changes according to their agenda.

[FeelingMN 273]

If you recall, Prop 8 passed in California. So, this guy basically held the same opinion as the majority of voters in California. How outrageous. Oh, the humanity. That's equally as shocking as a swastika, right? It's not like he had a legitimate political view or something.

He didn't hold the same values that Mozilla promoted. That's really all that matters.

 

Nobody would fault a religious organization asking for the resignation of a high ranking official who had supported abortion in the past.

[Googballz 39]

He didn't hold the same values that Mozilla promoted. That's really all that matters.

 

Nobody would fault a religious organization asking for the resignation of a high ranking official who had supported abortion in the past.

Let Hobby Lobby fire someone because they support ghey issues and watch the lawsuits fly. That would not be holding the same values Hobby Lobby promotes.

[phillybear 366]

I am guessing his employer asked him to step down because he recently defended his views, not because he made a contribution years ago. They made the decision that it would not be good for business to have a CEO who holds views that are unpopular with the public. This has nothing to do with the first amendment and everything to do with a private company making a calculated business decision. The only reason you care is because the poor CEO shares your views.

 

If the guy was a vegetarian, would they have gotten rid of him, since the majority of the public does not share those views? What if he was Muslim, and he decided to defend his beliefs because he was Muslim, which would not be popular in this country? Or maybe he was a Justin Bieber fan? What then, can you fire him? Basically, this is a private company walking into an illegal personnel move by getting rid of someone for a discriminatory reason. Yeah, he "resigned".

 

My views are not shared by that CEO.

[NewbieJr 541]

Let Hobby Lobby fire someone because they support ghey issues and watch the lawsuits fly. That would not be holding the same values Hobby Lobby promotes.

Apples and oranges. Your imaginary fired employee wouldn't be trying to deprive people of their rights.

[NewbieJr 541]

 

If the guy was a vegetarian, would they have gotten rid of him, since the majority of the public does not share those views? What if he was Muslim, and he decided to defend his beliefs because he was Muslim, which would not be popular in this country? Or maybe he was a Justin Bieber fan? What then, can you fire him? Basically, this is a private company walking into an illegal personnel move by getting rid of someone for a discriminatory reason. Yeah, he "resigned".

 

My views are not shared by that CEO.

How is being a vegetarian depriving meat eaters of their rights? How is being a Justin Bieber fan trying to suppress anyone?>

[phillybear 366]

Except being able to get married. Have their life partner on their insurance. Things like that. Yeah. Exact same rights as everybody else.

 

We've been down this road before. They have the same rights to marry as everybody else. Letter of the law.

 

Life partner on insurance? Isn't that a thing now? You're out of the loop.

 

Why is everybody so keen on making laws special for queers before any thorough research is done. They can't prove you are born gay. Therefore, it's not like you are guaranteed special rights for a sexual preference. It's as stupid as banning those vapor smokie things. They might be dangerous, so let's make some laws to deal with them just in case. You might be born gay, so let's bend over for 1.5% to 2% of the population and let's pass a bunch of laws to give them more rights than straight people. How about people take the time to properly vet the process and information. Sheesh.

[FeelingMN 273]

Let Hobby Lobby fire someone because they support ghey issues and watch the lawsuits fly. That would not be holding the same values Hobby Lobby promotes.

Did Chik-Fil-A fire anyone?

[phillybear 366]

He didn't hold the same values that Mozilla promoted. That's really all that matters.

 

Nobody would fault a religious organization asking for the resignation of a high ranking official who had supported abortion in the past.

 

I would be aghast at such a termination.

[Mungwater 597]

He didn't hold the same values that Mozilla promoted. That's really all that matters.

Nobody would fault a religious organization asking for the resignation of a high ranking official who had supported abortion in the past.

He was their CTO before then, it wasnt like he was someone new, he got fired because OK Cupid said they would tell their users to use another browser.

[FeelingMN 273]

Lots of companies out there that promote lots of different values. If you're a social activist, align your values with theirs. Easy.

[MDC 7,590]

 

If the guy was a vegetarian, would they have gotten rid of him, since the majority of the public does not share those views? What if he was Muslim, and he decided to defend his beliefs because he was Muslim, which would not be popular in this country? Or maybe he was a Justin Bieber fan? What then, can you fire him? Basically, this is a private company walking into an illegal personnel move by getting rid of someone for a discriminatory reason. Yeah, he "resigned".

 

My views are not shared by that CEO.

Well I'm not a pretend lawyer like Worns, but I'm guessing the company can fire him for espousing any views that they reasonably believe will affect their business or the perception of the company. And that's an easier case to make when you're talking about a highly public role like CEO of a tech firm.

[Frank M 181]

Let Hobby Lobby fire someone because they support ghey issues and watch the lawsuits fly. That would not be holding the same values Hobby Lobby promotes.

 

And this guy was not fired, he resigned. If he was fired, he'd potentially have a lawsuit.

[phillybear 366]

How is being a vegetarian depriving meat eaters of their rights? How is being a Justin Bieber fan trying to suppress anyone?>

 

When did marriage become a "right"?

[Frank M 181]

He was their CTO before then, it wasnt like he was someone new, he got fired because OK Cupid said they would tell their users to use another browser.

 

Again, he didn't get fired. And, like any other corporation would do with a customer boycott looming, Mozilla decided that making $$$ was more important than keeping a guy who held beliefs that were antithetical to their mission, which apparently included being all-inclusive.

[NewbieJr 541]

 

We've been down this road before. They have the same rights to marry as everybody else. Letter of the law.

 

Life partner on insurance? Isn't that a thing now? You're out of the loop.

 

Why is everybody so keen on making laws special for queers before any thorough research is done. They can't prove you are born gay. Therefore, it's not like you are guaranteed special rights for a sexual preference. It's as stupid as banning those vapor smokie things. They might be dangerous, so let's make some laws to deal with them just in case. You might be born gay, so let's bend over for 1.5% to 2% of the population and let's pass a bunch of laws to give them more rights than straight people. How about people take the time to properly vet the process and information. Sheesh.

Give me one reason you give a sh1t whether or not gays can marry. How does it affect you in any way, shape, or form?

 

 

As for it being a choice, who cares? Your views are primitive and uninformed on that, but let's pretend it's a choice. Who focking cares? Again, how does it affect you? If Bob and Neal are living together, holding hands when they go for a walk, snuggling when they watch Glee, and sharing a bed, then all that is still going to happen if a law says they can get married tomorrow. NOTHING changes. Especially for you and me. So what is this big battle that some people still want to wage all about?

[phillybear 366]

Well I'm not a pretend lawyer like Worns, but I'm guessing the company can fire him for espousing any views that they reasonably believe will affect their business or the perception of the company. And that's an easier case to make when you're talking about a highly public role like CEO of a tech firm.

 

We've gotten to a point where is dangerous to express your opinions on anything, anytime, anywhere. Because you never know when or how it will come back and destroy your life. It's happening over and over again.

[NewbieJr 541]

 

When did marriage become a "right"?

If a girl ever looks past your looks, weight, personality, and illness and actually takes a liking to you, you guys might choose to marry one day. You have that right. If that same girl decides she loves another woman, she DOES NOT. Get it now, Neanderthal man?

[phillybear 366]

Give me one reason you give a sh1t whether or not gays can marry. How does it affect you in any way, shape, or form?

 

 

As for it being a choice, who cares? Your views are primitive and uninformed on that, but let's pretend it's a choice. Who focking cares? Again, how does it affect you? If Bob and Neal are living together, holding hands when they go for a walk, snuggling when they watch Glee, and sharing a bed, then all that is still going to happen if a law says they can get married tomorrow. NOTHING changes. Especially for you and me. So what is this big battle that some people still want to wage all about?

 

Tax breaks.

 

I don't want married people getting them now. Because single people don't. If you then allow the queers to get them, along with the straight marrieds, that is now two distinct groups of people getting a tax break above and beyond single people. And that's discriminatory. I want to take away the marriage tax break from everybody.

 

Also, absolutely no public displays of affection from anybody, queer or straight. I will beat them with a bat if I see anybody holding hands.

[Mungwater 597]

Again, he didn't get fired. And, like any other corporation would do with a customer boycott looming, Mozilla decided that making $$$ was more important than keeping a guy who held beliefs that were antithetical to their mission, which apparently included being all-inclusive.

I'm sorry, he resigned, but you know he had one hell of a severance and non-disclosure agreement.

[phillybear 366]

If a girl ever looks past your looks, weight, personality, and illness and actually takes a liking to you, you guys might choose to marry one day. You have that right. If that same girl decides she loves another woman, she DOES NOT. Get it now, Neanderthal man?

 

The smart play is to live with someone but to never get married. A guy will get reamed in divorce court. There is no advantage to getting married, none at all. Get it?

[MDC 7,590]

 

We've gotten to a point where is dangerous to express your opinions on anything, anytime, anywhere. Because you never know when or how it will come back and destroy your life. It's happening over and over again.

Like everybody else I watch what I say at work but that's about it. I don't have this issue with feeling like Big Brother is policing me all the time. It's probably you.

[Mungwater 597]

Like everybody else I watch what I say at work but that's about it. I don't have this issue with feeling like Big Brother is policing me all the time. It's probably you.

Big brother isn't watching you as much as little brother is, we've become a country of snitches.

[MDC 7,590]

Big brother isn't watching you as much as little brother is, we've become a country of snitches.

True. Just saying, I don't talk politics or religion at work and I don't make jokes in the office that could be offensive or misinterpreted etc. This isn't a travesty of justice, it's just being a grown up in work situations.

[NewbieJr 541]

 

Tax breaks.

 

I don't want married people getting them now. Because single people don't. If you then allow the queers to get them, along with the straight marrieds, that is now two distinct groups of people getting a tax break above and beyond single people. And that's discriminatory. I want to take away the marriage tax break from everybody.

 

Also, absolutely no public displays of affection from anybody, queer or straight. I will beat them with a bat if I see anybody holding hands.

So you're against tax breaks for the married and public affection. Great. Those battles are totally irrelevant to the gay marriage one.

 

As I thought, you have no answer as to how gays getting married affects you in the least. Don't feel bad, none of your bigoted cohorts can answer that either.

[Mungwater 597]

True. Just saying, I don't talk politics or religion at work and I don't make jokes in the office that could be offensive or misinterpreted etc. This isn't a travesty of justice, it's just being a grown up in work situations.

Totally agree

[JT 137]

True. Just saying, I don't talk politics or religion at work and I don't make jokes in the office that could be offensive or misinterpreted etc. This isn't a travesty of justice, it's just being a grown up in work situations.

 

[KSB2424 3,148]

Why are we comparing the right to legally marry someone to genocide, slavery, and killing people.

 

Come on folks.

 

Its the same as the KKK and Hitler!@#!

 

It'd be funny if you people weren't actually serious.

[KSB2424 3,148]

If I read this correctly, this guy, BEFORE he was CEO made a donation. He's not telling his workers to donate, he's not pushing his beliefs on his workers, anything of the sport. :facepalm:

 

I do this too:

 

True. Just saying, I don't talk politics or religion at work and I don't make jokes in the office that could be offensive or misinterpreted etc. This isn't a travesty of justice, it's just being a grown up in work situations.

 

But it has zero to do with this story.

[phillybear 366]

So you're against tax breaks for the married and public affection. Great. Those battles are totally irrelevant to the gay marriage one.

 

As I thought, you have no answer as to how gays getting married affects you in the least. Don't feel bad, none of your bigoted cohorts can answer that either.

 

It's completely relevant to the argument. It just don't fit your cookie cutter agenda that you are following and your plan of action is to dismiss any legitimate point made. I get that.

 

I don't give a sh!t how many times you refer to me as a bigot; it doesn't make it so. I look at people as basically numbers rather than living human beings. I hate all people equally. I use reason and logic. You have a head full of pudding.

[phillybear 366]

True. Just saying, I don't talk politics or religion at work and I don't make jokes in the office that could be offensive or misinterpreted etc. This isn't a travesty of justice, it's just being a grown up in work situations.

 

We used to be able to. Before they allowed broads in the work place. Women ruin everything. :mad: