Run bad officially over!

[Giants Fan 85]

Man it's been a bad month, or was before the last 2 days. Earlier this month I lost a hand which just absolutely perplexed me. I discussed it earlier, but I had AsAd and got my opponent all in on the turn. He needed a 2 outer, a ten on th river to match the one in his hand. Here was the board: Ks, 10s, 4s, 4d and he calls me all in, for his last, about $50 with 9d, 10c. 10h river. Then, from the BB, a guy limps with AK, I have 8,3 suited. Flop comes A, 8, 3 ... We get in a raising war, I know exactly what he has and that he is bad enough to call my shove, and he does .... River K. Same session! 2 different idiots!

 

Anyway, I've made a very small adjustment to my game, where basically I am just more patient. Like yesterday I let go of two hands where I would have flopped a full house with J5 and I would have turned a set with 88, but that is being results oriented. Both hands you could make an argument for playing (pot odds, and implied odds). And at the end of the day, after like 5 hours I was about even, and then the heater came. I called a raise with A6s and the flop was 664. In the span of about 10 hands I made $250. I was patient and I waited for it, and it will eventually come.

 

Went back in there today, with the same concept, made $310 over like 3 hours. I have not had AA, KK or QQ pre-flop over either of these sessions, but I did flop a set against a guy today who rivered an Ace with AK, and then, against the same guy, my nut flush draw actually got there on the river. Instead of betting my draws, I am check calling now. So, he has been betting the whole time, third diamond on the river gives me the nuts, he bets again, I shoved, and he folded. Then, against this LAG kid, on a board of 5,6,7,8 ... Weird ... I think a mistake was made, because I had A,10, he bet the turn, I shoved, he called and then I rivered the 10. I know he showed a 7 and another low card, it must have been a 3... But I thought it was 7,4 ... which would have been a straight, but the pot was pushed my way, so I didn't complain.

 

Anyway, I wouldn't even really go as far as saying I have been running good. Maybe above average. All I need is to run average to make money.

[jerryskids 5,209]

So basically you took my advice to stop chasing hands against aggressive players. YW.

 

Also, I guess you didn't come up to Phoenix for the SB gambling crowd?

[Giants Fan 85]

So basically you took my advice to stop chasing hands against aggressive players. YW.

 

Also, I guess you didn't come up to Phoenix for the SB gambling crowd?

It's a variety of things. Basically it is a cycle here in Tucson where it's dead in the summer, and it's best late January to about April first. From April to December it's mostly overly nitty regs that never play bad cards, but there is this short window where people here want to gamble. The regs know this, so they stay out of each others way, and those of us that are the sharks get fed. It's there if you wait for it, so playing less hands makes more sense than trying to push your edge. Like I limped in with AJ today. I won that hand, but it wasn't good enough to be raising preflop with. I know if it hits I can still make money. Also, it's not like you are the first person to suggest only playing top hands and playing a "small ball" game.

 

I will be at TSR Friday and Saturday probably. I figure I will wear my U of A hat. If it makes people mad, they prolly went to ASU and are not very smart.

[IGotWorms 3,317]

Oh good, we were all waiting with bated breath

[Giants Fan 85]

It really helps too, because I was like -850 on the month, and now with a good 2 day run I can take like $800 up there and that should be just fine for 1/3. Say I went another 2 days of losses, 6 straight losses, and BR cut in half ... prolly would take like a month off. My goal is to eliminate the last 4 months of losses, where I only played 20 sessions, in one week, over 5 or less sessions. If I can make $700 over this weekend in Phurnace ... I'm there.

[Giants Fan 85]

The real key to "small ball" is never getting married to top pair type hands. You really want 2 pair or better to be betting. Never raise draws, just flat. Bluff rarely, but with outs (see my A, 10 hand today). Trust your reads. Bad players are not capable of false tells.

[Giants Fan 85]

You know what is funny, is I have played, in my "career" 2/5 less than 10 times. I think though my record is like 7-2. I can only remember one loss at 2/5 where a guy who was bad called me down when I flopped two pair and he went runner, runner flush. That was this summer at the WSOP. Had no pair, no draw on the flop. In other words, I don't really find 1/2 to be "easier". Some of my tactics are too complex for that game and they don't work against calling stations.

 

So, I dunno. $800 is all I really want to be able to lose ... good stop loss. I will probably sit in 2/5 at TSR this weeknd, but I am not sure I will play. Unless it seems really juicy, prolly move down to 1/3. If I can make $600 at 1/2 over 7 hours in Tucson ... $700 over 8 hours of 1/3 at TSR on Superbowl weekend should be easy.

[Giants Fan 85]

It's actually kind of a read based style based not only on the math and understanding the basics of pot odds and implied odds, but also balanced ranges, even using some of Hellmuth's "Play Poker Like The Pro's" ... but like this 7 year old video describes, "small ball" works really well against inexperienced players.

 

 

But ... I really don't play a lot of "goofy hands" like Negreanu. K9 off is about the worst hand I will limp with, and at a table where I think somone behind me might raise, I just fold it. I never even consider playing hands like 3,5 suited unless I am in late position and getting great pot odds.

[Giants Fan 85]

Fock, I had a whole post written about this guy and my ipad lost it on a refresh:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xArfwpWYEI

[Giants Fan 85]

Point is .... it's actually more like James Bond movies where the villain regularly gets 4 of a kind against your straight flush and you win a million dollars.

 

Still, it's interesting watching this guy grind it out in Vegas.

[SUXBNME 1,340]

Oh good, we were all waiting with bated breath

Baited breath, considering whom you are responding to.

[Giants Fan 85]

Baited breath, considering whom you are responding to.

 

Since when are you the spelling police?

[Giants Fan 85]

True story: When I was a kid, I had a mini-roulette table in my treehouse. And I also dealt black jack and would bank dice. I had like a little mini casino in my treehouse, but my Dad found out and he took away the roulette table. I was like king of the nerds. Tall and good looking, but smart and into computers. I pretty much used to always win at cards. Gin, was really my game. I felt like I solved Gin. Nobody could beat me at Gin. OH yeah ... Reminds me. You guys will not believe this one:

 

I was watching this child genius show where they were given a shuffled deck lf cards and had to memorize the order in one hour. Most of them couldn't do it. So, I started going through a deck of cards and quickly realized I could do it. Then I thought, here is a test. Flop over the cards one at a time, like 1 second per flip, turn over 51 cards and then determine what the last remaining card is.

 

First try. What was even weirder is with like 20 cards left, I became focused on one card that I knew I had not seen, the 8 of hearts. That was it. So it was easy, the first 30 cards I did not see the 8 of hearts, and then it just happened to be the last card. Was weird. I tried it again and couldn't do it, but it was late and I was tired.

 

Now here's what's even more amazing. Stuey Ungar once placed a bet that he could do this with a six deck shoe at a blackjack table. Deal out 6 full decks, he could tell you what the last card was. Someone was foolish enough to take the bet, and the story goes that Stuey won the bet. Now, the story is he won the bet, not the he actually did that. Now, I wouldn't bet against it ... but ... that is really impressive, if true.

[Giants Fan 85]

I was also, like a lot of kids in the 70s into magic tricks, particularly slight of hand.

 

My best one, and I should make a video of this and put it on youtube, I can take a coin, any coin, show it to you in the palm of my hand, quickly slap it over onto my other hand ... will still be heads. To do this trick well takes a lot of practice. But all these kinds of things, cards, dice, probability ... these things were interesting to me from a very young age. I could do a one handed cut with a deck of cards when I was like 8 years old.

 

So, it's interesting to me, to see a guy like the trooper97 get out there and do it, with less experience and less understanding of the game than I have. So, that's kinda been inspirational for me.

[Giants Fan 85]

There's a group of University students, every year that figure they can come in and run over everybody, and this year is no exception. I had a friend in college lose like 4 grand gambling on his parent credit card, blamed it on wrecking a jet ski. There's all kinds of evidence about the pre frontal cortex and how it develops and as you get older you become less inclined to take risks. So, there you have it. That's why it's kids that win the WSOP every year now, because they are not smart enough yet to try and avoid risk. This is good, in the short run ... to not be concerned with risk ... but in the long run, and after you have been busted a few times ... being too risky ... you learn to be more conservative. This is human nature, this is the way we are.

 

And that's why, since "black friday" ... I haven't seen one young kid come in there and run over all the old man coffee types. I played on the internet too. I post on 2 plus 2. I get it. I focking invented LAG tournament play. I was LAG before it waw defined. Same way I play gin, sledge hammer, hard and fast, can't catch me. But over time, against experinced cash players, this is a bad strategy. It doesn't work. Seen a lot of arrogant kids lose a lot of their parents money in the past 4 years.

 

I was broke in college. Put myself through grad school. I paid my dues. Now is when I reap the rewards. Somehow, I never even thought of underground poker games while I was in NYC. Been to underground clubs, but never for gambling. I would have thought it was a bunch of cheaters and not gone, because I am a sceptic ... but imagine ... I was in NYC in the 90's. What if I had stumbled across the Wayfair Club back then.

 

Too be fair, 5 years ago, in my late thirties, I had never played much cash before, and didn't really understand optimal tournament play vs. optimal cash style ... still, patience is hard for me. I am known as an action player. There's a good example. In a tournament, there is no rake. If you win a lot of small pots, you can afford to play some big ones, you can take on more risk. In a cash game, with rake, and assuming you tip, a lot of small pots doesn't add up to squat. You want to win big pots, where the rake/tip is a lower percentage of your profit. Took me years, just to get that concept. There's an added bonus to this, assuming you are playing premium starting hands as aggressively as possible, just like they say in Rounders. Your opponents that you see regularly will know, when you raise preflop, and it can be subtle ... $9 instead of $7 ... it's serious business. I want to play for stacks. That scares people. They just fold. They know I do not fock around. And I'll take that, all day long. Just fold to all my raises, gimme about $25 an hour and I am happy.

[Giants Fan 85]

What really cracks me up, is when you see these guys that play 5 cent, 10 cent online and they talk about how "bad" live 1/2 NL players, and they are right. The majority of them are pretty bad and make really basic mistakes. BUT ... and trust me because I know, even when you shove all in as a 98% favorite, ya know .. There is that %2 of the time when you lose. Play enough, and it will happen.

 

A guy was saying the aces versus aces, all in ... i think it was the One Drop, $10 million dollar buy in. They get it all in and then one guy rivers a flush. Guy was saying that was the worst bad beat ever, and that's nothing. That's like what ... 10 %? I have lost to like ... One outer, one outer ... running one outers like where the river card wouldn't even be a one outer if it wasn't for the turn card. I won $10k because of a one outer.

 

And he was like, "Yeah, but was it a $10 million dollar buy in?" i was just cracking up inside. Today, I saw a guy turn a flush and river a straight flush against some old fart with AK and the ace of hearts, so he rivered the nut flush and lost ...only the 10h ... woulda done that. After the hand the old man was confused and since he had paired his ace on the flop he thought he was good until the river. "That's just a cooler. Not much you can do about that. He had you on the turn though." and the old man said, "No he didn't! Can't you see? I had AK, I paired my ace." and I eventually just said, "Sir, I am not gonna argue with you about it. He had you beat on the turn."

[Giants Fan 85]

Here's the thing ... it's not just math. If it was as easy as just math there would be a line of people down the street waiting to get in and make money. It's math, it's psychology ... a little luck. I have a friend who is a pretty good player, afraid to play in a casino. I could pay the buy in, he wouldn't play.

 

He went with me to Vegas for the WSOP this summer, didn't play poker. I tried everything I could ... he's got pyschological problems. Will play against me like his life depnds on it, to try and win $10 ... and of course I am always teaching him stuff. He's pretty good. But the reality of it is ... He's a scared poosay with no balls, refuses to play at a casino. He'll play blackjack, or slots even ... Like just for fun money, because there is not the stress of the other patron involved, it's against the house ... He doesn't want other people to be angry with him. Weird, I know.

 

Me on the other hand ... i don't give a fock. It's just weird because, I think he has actually, a pretty good mind for the game and could even make a living at it, if he took it seriously, and he hates his job ... and he wants to gamble with me all the time. I got no read on who's gonna winnthe Superbowl. Usually, I just have a feeling, and that feeling is right ... and my feeling says Patriots. But I wouldn't bet on it.

[nobody 2,044]

1. What you described, ie, hitting draws, flopping sets, flopping trips, bluffing on the 4 card straight board and then sucking out on the hero call, etc, is running great not running average.

 

2. Why do you insist on calling raises with raggedy aces? Are you getting away from them on the cheap when you flop top pair?

 

3. That Negranu video is one of my favorite moves. Kind of pissed that he advertised it. The trick is to be playing a guy that you can confidently put on a top pair/over pair top hand, but he also, just as importantly, has to be good enough to fold it when the draw hits. Those birds are rare, but I love those guys. It's one of the few times you can actually play poker and create money instead of just showing up with the best hand on the river. The great part is they will usually pigeon hole you as one of the guys that will never make a move like a lot of the TAGs.

 

4. You limp and call too much. I've softened my stance on limping and calling a bit over the years from never ever do it to okay to do it when set mining with deep stacks against a spewy opponent to I'll overlimp some drawing hands in position on a passive table with deep stacks and a bunch of limpers where at least 1 player will stack off with top pair. Regardless though, everytime you post, you talk about how you called or limped. Raise or fold should be the name of your game Preflop as a default unless there is a specific reason not to.

 

Open raise in late position with 7-9 for all I care. Just don't call or limp it. mark the people who limp every pot, and mark the people who limp fold, and you can pretty much raise any two cards on the button when you have those guys in the hand, and tight players in the blinds. Much easier way to make money than trying to out-flop people.

[drobeski 3,061]

Be sure to send some of those winnings to the government.

 

Fair share bro

[Giants Fan 85]

Oh yeah, I send love letters to the IRS. Sure, I reportorded $15k in winnings, but I get to write off losses against it. I am not. Professiomal gambler, I had another job in 2014.

 

I took a trip to Vegas. Lost it all in Vegas. Even the inspection I had like $500 in cash on me on the way back to AZ and the inspector was like, "What is this cash? Better send him back to the hotel." LOL ... Leaving Vegas and still have cash, I get it. Funny cops ... If you have more questions ... i want an attorney.

 

:wink:

 

You wanna talk about 80's trivia until the attorney gets here, I will do that. "Melt With You" was by whom?

 

I'll give you a multiple choice:

 

A) Duran Duran

Depeche Mode

C) The Smiths

D) Modern English

E) Madness

 

 

"...

..........

[Giants Fan 85]

What if I say the answer is D ... You gonna try and prove me wrong?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Am8Rm_k6-c

[Giants Fan 85]

If I was 13 ... And I said I had a crush on Brooke Sheilds in Blue Lagoon. I still like her, even though she's like 9 feet tall.

 

if I still have that crush on that young Brokke Sheilds and that young girl, who took her top off in that Fastimes at Ridgemeint High move ... Little Missy Cates, lr whatever her name was ... men jacking off all across the country cause of some dumb movie.

 

so, you may find a pattern here, brunettes, yes. Small, perky bewbage over big and saggy (good investment with smaller, over time) check! Tight little ass over ginormous fat ass with celulite and is all Jaba the Hutt gross.

 

Even if you like a big ass, like whats her face kardashian ... talk to me in 5 years son. Talk to me about liking a chick with a big ass, in five years.

 

i like little butts, and I cannot lie ... Selma Blair make a brotha cry ...

i wanna a peel your little onion,

Slap it down, you gonna get some

 

It's true, I owe a lot of money to bookies,

bit I'll still buy your Girl Scou ... I can't do it.

 

GL with that. Small ass, over time, worth more than a big ass. Trust me on this one.

[Giants Fan 85]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cj9_yW8tZxs

[Giants Fan 85]

Beastie Boys, as adults, have apologized for being massage-inists, or something like that. When they were younger. I never got a massage from them.

 

Still, trust me ... small, tight ass, wtg.

 

Google: Gilian Vigman ass

 

She is like 57 years old, rockin those jeans in the swiffer commercial. You don't wanna know what Kim Kardashian's ass is gonna look like, when she is 57.

[Giants Fan 85]

Trust me girls ... It was this commercial ... made Gillian Vigman a rich woman.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvxEtBE314A

[Giants Fan 85]

We know .... That is like an unbelievavle ass, and a lot to strive for, as guys that actually care about how nice and firm a taught little bottom can be. It's prerty hard to beat. Especially considering she is like 71 years old in that commercial., or something.

 

Yeah ... Old guys have our math all wrong. Women that are younger than us, are like a million years old.

 

It's weird.I know it get's like exponential ... Like when you are 12 the 17 year old neighbor girl is your biggest crush. Oh yea, she knew the whole time. Think it was some big secret? She knew.

 

One day you turn 21, sign onto Facebook .... Few years later Martha, like 350 pounds, squirted out 3 kids from 3 different dads, looks like an old hobo to you. She was your first crush.

 

And then you realize the pictures are of her daughter, who is younger than you by 7 years. Her daughter, who you thought looked old and fat, is the younger better looking version, of your old fat crush. Her daughter, who you thought looked like and old crack head, is younger than you.

 

That's a real wake up call. When you start to look worse than a total drug addict junkie that is like 10 years younger than you ...you need to find out what skin moisturizer he is using.

[Giants Fan 85]

One girl I remember from HS ... Pretty much purely from her ass. Petite girl, tight little ass. She friended me, or whtever. I know it's been like 100 years and she is married with kids, and I told her, "I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but you had the best ass in the whole damn school, back in the day." We are both old now, and never dated at all.but I still remember, her tight little apple ass.

 

I am 100 percent sure she took is as a compliment, and nothing more.

 

Women grow up, eventually.

[Giants Fan 85]

It's so simple ... The tight ass ... dusting from the ladder ... Had a million guys googling "who is the actress in the swiffer commercial"

 

Brilliant. All based on a really nice ass. Advertisers are smart.

[Giants Fan 85]

Also of note: when a 21 year old guy says you have a nice ass, that means he wants to have sex with you.

 

When a 45 year old guy says that you have a nice ass ... Yah know ... Could be some scheduling conflicts, but yeah, totally, Yeah! Ya know ... If my gout clears up soon.

 

Young women don't even know, some of them. Like the ones that are just above average looking, but are like 25 with greta hair .... They don't even know, like ... Right?

 

21 year old men will try all kindsa stuff to get in yer pants, they might not even like you at all ... In the first place.

 

45 year old guy, go down on you for 45 minutes andthen be like, "want me to keep going, or should I go snort some Viagra?"

 

If I had an opportunity with a 25 year old ... girl, I promise you. You are gonna get there. I will do the work, gladly. Time to make the donuts.

 

You do the math ladies ... 3 minute of a young, thrusting spear peeemis or ... Years, or at leasr several months of experience. You know what I'm talkin bout ladies. That's right. You want someone to treat you right ... i feel ya.

[drobeski 3,061]

Oh yeah, I send love letters to the IRS. Sure, I reportorded $15k in winnings, but I get to write off losses against it. I am not. Professiomal gambler, I had another job in 2014.

 

I took a trip to Vegas. Lost it all in Vegas. Even the inspection I had like $500 in cash on me on the way back to AZ and the inspector was like, "What is this cash? Better send him back to the hotel." LOL ... Leaving Vegas and still have cash, I get it. Funny cops ... If you have more questions ... i want an attorney.

 

:wink:

 

You wanna talk about 80's trivia until the attorney gets here, I will do that. "Melt With You" was by whom?

 

I'll give you a multiple choice:

 

A) Duran Duran

Depeche Mode

C) The Smiths

D) Modern English

E) Madness

 

 

"...

..........

some crap ass gay band

 

 

What do I win

[Giants Fan 85]

some crap ass gay band

What do I win

I am taking that as a vote for Madness, also wrong. did that "our house" deal, known for being in the middle of the street.

 

Not Madness.

 

Good guess though. i shall post a video.

 

 

[Giants Fan 85]

[Giants Fan 85]

Btw, if you ever liked Madness you are prolly have the ghey.

 

Lotta ppl got infected in the 80s.

[Giants Fan 85]

It's OK to like the Smiths tho. Doesn't make you a homo in my book. Unless youa wanna suck the lead singers calk ... Let me find here my section for homos ... pretty full section .. Know a lot of homos. Pretty good music, actually.

 

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

I love how gfiafp considers himself a shark. That just kills me every time.

[kilroy69 995]

its not a runbad if you actually are in fact bad. hth

[mobb_deep 917]

I love how gfiafp considers himself a shark. That just kills me every time.

Biggest shark at the 1/2 table. Epic.

[jerryskids 5,209]

Also I can do the coin flip trick where the coin doesn't actually flip. It may be the only "magic" trick I know. GF makes it seem like the hardest trick evah.

[bweiser831 0]

Modern English ... very good song