Now that the transcripts have been released for deflategate.....

[edjr 6,578]

 

Sure...it was a huge blunder.

Also a reason he quit focusing on just the offense and calling plays and is now overseeing everything.

 

Other than BB...which coaches are actually better than him right now?

 

You're way to far into the forest to see the trees.

 

That's just it, isn't it? the NFL has a huge lack of talent in it's head coaches

 

Guys like Marvin Lewis and Lovie Smith awful

[edjr 6,578]

 

Rodgers won, Marino didn't.

Rodgers is Steve Young at this point...injuries hurting what could have been better so far (just as the injuries caught up to him)

 

I will give you that Rodgers calf last year cost them going to the Super Bowl.

[Sho Nuff 720]

 

You're way to far into the forest to see the trees.

 

That's just it, isn't it? the NFL has a huge lack of talent in it's head coaches

 

Guys like Marvin Lewis and Lovie Smith awful

 

Sure, not a lot of great coaches.

But if we are going to call the guy bad...lets understand he is still top 5 in the league right now.

He has a track record with QBs and offense and does that well.

 

Like BB, he is tied to his QB as far as how much success they will have.

BB has obviously had more...no doubt.

[Herbivore 1,117]

 

Rodgers won, Marino didn't.

Rodgers is Steve Young at this point...injuries hurting what could have been better so far (just as the injuries caught up to him).

 

Are any of his injuries relative to his style of play?

[NewbieJr 541]

I am not sure why people even argue between Rodgers and Brady. Both are great.

 

The true difference between them is the person coaching their respective teams.

 

Mike McCarthy is a focking dunce. Only has a job because of Rodgers, Just like Manning and Dungy.

How did Belichick do in Cleveland and with Bledsoe in New England? I'm pretty sure both coaches success is tied to their quarterback.

[Magnificent Bastard 190]

 

Sure...it was a huge blunder.

Also a reason he quit focusing on just the offense and calling plays and is now overseeing everything.

 

Other than BB...which coaches are actually better than him right now?

Coughlin

[Magnificent Bastard 190]

 

Who is better?

Coughlin. Beat him twice in his place in the playoffs with the inferior team. Blew him out in one of them. And he has 2 rings. Case dismissed.

[DankNuggs 305]

Coughlin. Beat him twice in his place in the playoffs with the inferior team. Blew him out in one of them. And he has 2 rings. Case dismissed.

Wont argue against Coughlin being an outstanding coach... Too bad he is unappreciated by the NY imbred who support the team

[edjr 6,578]

Wont argue against Coughlin being an outstanding coach... Too bad he is unappreciated by the NY imbred who support the team

 

Outstanding coaches don't go 6 and 10, 6 and 10, 7 and 9 and 8 and 8.

[NewbieJr 541]

 

Outstanding coaches don't go 6 and 10, 6 and 10, 7 and 9 and 8 and 8.

Do outstanding coaches beat supposedly-outstanding coaches two straight times in the biggest game of the year?

[edjr 6,578]

Do outstanding coaches beat supposedly-outstanding coaches two straight times in the biggest game of the year?

 

they don't go .500 or under 4 times in 12 years.

 

Giants fans were calling for his head at least 2 seasons out of those 12

 

even McCarthy has only had 2 such seasons

[Magnificent Bastard 190]

 

they don't go .500 or under 4 times in 12 years.

 

Giants fans were calling for his head at least 2 seasons out of those 12

 

even McCarthy has only had 2 such seasons

Well. He started out with a rookie QB, not a HOF'r followed up by another HOF'r. And let's not forget about his work with an expansion team in Jacksonville. Seriously, it's not even close.

[Sho Nuff 720]

 

Are any of his injuries relative to his style of play?

 

Maybe some...the collarbone while escaping the pocket...could happen anywhere...same with the calf.

[Mike Honcho 5,127]

 

Are any of his injuries relative to his style of play?

 

Collarbone was escaping pressure, stepping up in the pocket, something all QB's would do. Torn calf-muscle he was jog-running out of the pocket to extend play when he tore it, still complete pass. That looked more like a freak thing than anything.

 

Perhaps, you could blame style of play on concussion in 2010, he had run, slid and got creamed by a helmet to helmet shout from defender. Had he not run, he doesn't miss 1.5 games there.

[Sho Nuff 720]

Coughlin

 

Negative

[Sho Nuff 720]

Coughlin. Beat him twice in his place in the playoffs with the inferior team. Blew him out in one of them. And he has 2 rings. Case dismissed.

 

Talking right now...not in 2007 or 2011.

Coughlin is done.

[edjr 6,578]

Well. He started out with a rookie QB, not a HOF'r followed up by another HOF'r. And let's not forget about his work with an expansion team in Jacksonville. Seriously, it's not even close.

 

Now you are celebrating making the conference championship game and losing?

 

whatever fits your argument

[Magnificent Bastard 190]

 

Now you are celebrating making the conference championship game and losing

whatever fits your argument

Oh, so it's all about the rings then? He wins o. That count too.

[DankNuggs 305]

 

Talking right now...not in 2007 or 2011.

Coughlin is done.

He was done in 2010 as well, calling for his head... Its a dirtbag NY thing

[edjr 6,578]

Oh, so it's all about the rings then? He wins o. That count too.

 

i have never and will never be a "rings are all that matter" person.

 

it's foolish.

[Magnificent Bastard 190]

 

Talking right now...not in 2007 or 2011.

Coughlin is done.

Right. Then the rookie head coach in Atlanta is 3-0. Just like McCarthy. If we're talking about today and all.

[Sho Nuff 720]

Right. Then the rookie head coach in Atlanta is 3-0. Just like McCarthy. If we're talking about today and all.

 

Yes, because a 3 game sample size is enough.

 

No one on earth would trade McCarthy for Coughlin right now.

And of course we are talking today.

[Magnificent Bastard 190]

 

i have never and will never be a "rings are all that matter" person.

 

it's foolish.

Then what the hell are you talking about? You can't bring up going to the conference championship twice with an expansion team, so what can you bring up? Make up your fockin mind.

[Magnificent Bastard 190]

 

Yes, because a 3 game sample size is enough.

 

No one on earth would trade McCarthy for Coughlin right now.

And of course we are talking today.

He's 9 years in with 2 HOF QB'S and he's been in the playoffs plenty. He got it done once.

[DankNuggs 305]

 

Yes, because a 3 game sample size is enough.

 

No one on earth would trade McCarthy for Coughlin right now.

And of course we are talking today.

Which would you rather have:

 

Coughlin & Rodgers or McCarthy & Derp?

 

McCarthy is just running the Pats offense with a guy good enough to do it...

[TD Ryan2 316]

welcome to the stoopid people thread!

 

"Tom Brady Sux"

"Aaron Rodgers Sux"

"Mike McCarthy Sux"

Tom Coughlin Sux"

"Bill Belichick Sux"

[edjr 6,578]

Then what the hell are you talking about? You can't bring up going to the conference championship twice with an expansion team, so what can you bring up? Make up your fockin mind.

 

using your argument, genius. your a rings is all that matter guy. keep up

[Crygate 7]

 

Also some pretty big injuries derailed a few of his seasons (collar bone and last year's calf...anyone think he does not beat Seattle if 100% last year?...and he would have destroyed NE...like they did in GB)

 

Not a perfect coach, but still a great coach.

he destroyed new England in green bay ? Link ?

 

 

Oh and as the goat belichick would say, his teams are built on hard work and preparation, not excuses.

[NewbieJr 541]

This is such a silly debate. It's like Federer and Nadal. Federer (Belichick) is the better all around coach. Head to head, Nadal (Coughlin) has his number.

[Magnificent Bastard 190]

BB is a great coach, but we will never truly know how great he is. The cloud will never leave. Sad.

[Crygate 7]

BB is a great coach, but we will never truly know how great he is. The cloud will never leave. Sad.

gun thrown

[Magnificent Bastard 190]

He was done in 2010 as well, calling for his head... Its a dirtbag NY thing

18-1. And that's funny coming from the white trash capital of the northeast, Assachutces

[NewbieJr 541]

gun thrown

Oh how you wish that dark cloud didn't exist.

[Sho Nuff 720]

He's 9 years in with 2 HOF QB'S and he's been in the playoffs plenty. He got it done once.

 

And?

He is still currently better than having Coughlin.

1 title, 3 NFC championship games.

Top 10 offenses just about every year (and top 5 most of those years).

[Sho Nuff 720]

Which would you rather have:

 

Coughlin & Rodgers or McCarthy & Derp?

 

McCarthy is just running the Pats offense with a guy good enough to do it...

 

The Pats offense?

Not even close.

he is running his offense (well, Rodgers and Clements are running his offense). More pats like right now without Jordy, that is for sure.

[Sho Nuff 720]

he destroyed new England in green bay ? Link ?

 

 

Oh and as the goat belichick would say, his teams are built on hard work and preparation, not excuses.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201411300gnb.htm

 

Anyone who watched that game saw them pick NE apart and keep Tom from doing much all game.

[Magnificent Bastard 190]

 

And?

He is still currently better than having Coughlin.

1 title, 3 NFC championship games.

Top 10 offenses just about every year (and top 5 most of those years).

Coughlin

2 titles. 2 NFC championship games, 2 AFC championship games. No HOF QB. Beat M MCCarthy twice in the playoffs, on the road. Until MCCarthy surpasses that, he's not better. He may some day, but as of right now it's TC hands down.

[Magnificent Bastard 190]

I remember watching the NFC championship game in 2007 and seeing Plaxico give a beat down to supposed all pro cornerback Al Harris and wondering when McCarthy was going to get him some help. Help never came. That's some good coaching there.

[edjr 6,578]

I remember watching the NFC championship game in 2007 and seeing Plaxico give a beat down to supposed all pro cornerback Al Harris and wondering when McCarthy was going to get him some help. Help never came. That's some good coaching there.

 

In green Bay

 

Another home choke in the playoffs.

[Crygate 7]

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201411300gnb.htm

 

Anyone who watched that game saw them pick NE apart and keep Tom from doing much all game.

you're a clown