Raven Fan 362 Posted January 5 5 minutes ago, RLLD said: Incorrect. And your position is rather sinister. I would really not suggest you support investigations where there is nothing present to suggest an investigation is warranted. That is dark stuff my friend. You didn't state with certainty that Biden took bribes? My apologies if I misunderstood you when you posted "No more so than Biden absorbing millions of dollars from foreign nations is just because they think he is neat." And can you please link to where I've stated I do not think Biden should be investigated? I'll clarify that position too if it's as you're putting forward. I certainly do not support investigations with no smoke, and there's smoke where Biden/Hunter are involved. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 6,592 Posted January 5 I for one look forward to the House releasing the results of their yearlong investigation into Joe and Hunter. Either we will get definitive proof of Joe Biden’s malfeasance or Ray will admit he was wrong and never speak of it again. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,435 Posted January 5 Just now, MDC said: I for one look forward to the House releasing the results of their yearlong investigation into Joe and Hunter. Either we will get definitive proof of Joe Biden’s malfeasance or Ray will admit he was wrong and never speak of it again. What makes you think they will get definitive proof and share it with the public? And what makes you think the media will share it further with the public? I for one, have no faith in that. And for good reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 13,899 Posted January 5 Joe got rich on book deals. Case closed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 767 Posted January 5 1 hour ago, RLLD said: I am convinced that people in power do not always do the right thing, and sometimes they pointedly do criminal things. Rather than be a sycophant, as you appear to be, I instead insist they all be held to account. Yet you refuse to hold Trump accountable for anything Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 13,899 Posted January 5 Just now, Ron_Artest said: Yet you refuse to hold Trump accountable for anything Trump is grotesque and a narcissist. Happy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,845 Posted January 5 11 minutes ago, Raven Fan said: You didn't state with certainty that Biden took bribes? My apologies if I misunderstood you when you posted "No more so than Biden absorbing millions of dollars from foreign nations is just because they think he is neat." And can you please link to where I've stated I do not think Biden should be investigated? I'll clarify that position too if it's as you're putting forward. I certainly do not support investigations with no smoke, and there's smoke where Biden/Hunter are involved. Of course I stated as much. If I were not sure I would be obligated to oppose an investigation, but since I see enough to justify an investigation I will of course support it. You appear to be moderating your initial support for Biden, but if you do not see enough evidence to proceed with an investigation then you are of course obligated to object to it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raven Fan 362 Posted January 5 6 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Joe got rich on book deals. Case closed Every heard of the speaking circuit my friend...never mind, of course you're unaware...lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,845 Posted January 5 3 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Yet you refuse to hold Trump accountable for anything Except that your assertion is not true, as demonstrated over years across a range of posts, threads and topics. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 6,592 Posted January 5 25 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: What makes you think they will get definitive proof and share it with the public? And what makes you think the media will share it further with the public? I for one, have no faith in that. And for good reason. You mean you’ll continue to assume Biden’s guilt even if the investigation can’t prove he did anything wrong??? I wonder where Ray stands on this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,435 Posted January 5 1 minute ago, MDC said: You mean you’ll continue to assume Biden’s guilt even if the investigation can’t prove he did anything wrong??? I wonder where Ray stands on this. Talk to Ray all you want. I'm sticking with it. You think no political coverups ever occur? Or just in biden's case they don't? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,845 Posted January 5 3 minutes ago, MDC said: You mean you’ll continue to assume Biden’s guilt even if the investigation can’t prove he did anything wrong??? I wonder where Ray stands on this. I remain opposed to continuing an investigation proven to have no tangible evidence justifying it proceed, as was done with the dossier... And I am concerned that the Republicans might do just that. But there is a further concern that you have not even touched on yet. I am worried that everything they are doing is "on a schedule" to deliver the best impact on the election season. I see this as being election interference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 6,592 Posted January 5 Just now, RLLD said: I remain opposed to continuing an investigation proven to have no tangible evidence justifying it proceed, as was done with the dossier... And I am concerned that the Republicans might do just that. But there is a further concern that you have not even touched on yet. I am worried that everything they are doing is "on a schedule" to deliver the best impact on the election season. I see this as being election interference. Let’s say the House investigation concludes and there’s no proof that Biden took bribes. Will you continue to think he took bribes? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,845 Posted January 5 Just now, MDC said: Let’s say the House investigation concludes and there’s no proof that Biden took bribes. Will you continue to think he took bribes? Why in God's name would I? Wait, are you perhaps projecting on me again? Because you should not proceed under the premise that I think as you do. I am not down at your level. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,006 Posted January 5 Just now, MDC said: Let’s say the House investigation concludes and there’s no proof that Biden took bribes. Will you continue to think he took bribes? But he did take bribes unless you can show any tangible product or service Hunter and James provided to our adversaries the only logical conclusion is Joe was the product or service. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 6,592 Posted January 5 Just now, RLLD said: Why in God's name would I? Wait, are you perhaps projecting on me again? Because you should not proceed under the premise that I think as you do. I am not down at your level. Great. Just wanted to get you on record of absolving Biden of taking bribes absent any definitive proof. That way you won’t be able to slither out of it later like a waffling dirtbag hypocrite. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,845 Posted January 5 Just now, MDC said: Great. Just wanted to get you on record of absolving Biden of taking bribes absent any definitive proof. That way you won’t be able to slither out of it later like a waffling dirtbag hypocrite. Of course. I mean, I will always remain philosophically honest, which I understand is anathema to a hypocrite of your prowess. You projection is evident here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 6,592 Posted January 5 Just now, RLLD said: Of course. I mean, I will always remain philosophically honest, which I understand is anathema to a hypocrite of your prowess. You projection is evident here. Great. I’m just delighted to hear that when the investigation is complete, if there’s no definitive proof that Biden took bribes you’ll admit you were wrong and never speak of it again, vs acting like a hypocritical waffling biich who has no integrity. I think we’re done here. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,845 Posted January 5 2 minutes ago, MDC said: Great. I’m just delighted to hear that when the investigation is complete, if there’s no definitive proof that Biden took bribes you’ll admit you were wrong and never speak of it again, vs acting like a hypocritical waffling biich who has no integrity. I think we’re done here. Not done yet of course. We have to wait. And....knowing you.....a clarification if you will, to ensure you do not weasel out of anything later.... If they bring impeachment proceedings.... is that an indication of enough evidence to suggest that the initial investigation was warranted.....no matter the outcome? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 6,592 Posted January 5 7 minutes ago, RLLD said: Not done yet of course. We have to wait. And....knowing you.....a clarification if you will, to ensure you do not weasel out of anything later.... If they bring impeachment proceedings.... is that an indication of enough evidence to suggest that the initial investigation was warranted.....no matter the outcome? If they find proof that Biden took bribes sure. The investigation is warranted. I don’t need an impeachment to tell me that. Again, I’m impressed that you’LL admit you were wrong and never speak of it again if the investigation doesn’t uncover definitive proof. I’d hate to think you’d pivot to making excuses like a waffling hypocritical twat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,845 Posted January 5 Just now, MDC said: If they find proof that Biden took bribes sure. The investigation is warranted. I don’t need an impeachment to tell me that. Again, I’m impressed that you’LL admit you were wrong and never speak of it again if the investigation doesn’t uncover definitive proof. I’d hate to think you’d pivot to making excuses like a waffling hypocritical twat. Of course you are impressed, and you do not even realize that your misperceptions are false, even when they are right in front of your face. But given your history of hiding from your own statements kike the hypocrite you are, I am not surprised. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raven Fan 362 Posted January 5 Just now, RLLD said: Of course you are impressed, and you do not even realize that your misperceptions are false, even when they are right in front of your face. But given your history of hiding from your own statements kike the hypocrite you are, I am not surprised. RLLD? WTF? #winkeyface Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 6,592 Posted January 5 2 minutes ago, RLLD said: Of course you are impressed, and you do not even realize that your misperceptions are false, even when they are right in front of your face. But given your history of hiding from your own statements kike the hypocrite you are, I am not surprised. You seem a little agitated and hostile. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,845 Posted January 5 3 minutes ago, Raven Fan said: RLLD? WTF? #winkeyface Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,845 Posted January 5 Just now, MDC said: You seem a little agitated and hostile. Hmmmm, mirroring your behaviors back on to you resulted in an unexpected response from you.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 6,592 Posted January 5 1 minute ago, RLLD said: Hmmmm, mirroring your behaviors back on to you resulted in an unexpected response from you.... Seems like you feel a little itchy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,845 Posted January 5 1 minute ago, MDC said: Seems like you feel a little itchy. LMFAO....you are just going to keep telling us how you feel, aren't you.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 13,899 Posted January 5 Biden doesn’t have to actually take the bribe to be bribed. His family deriving a benefit is also part of the bribery statute. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 6,592 Posted January 5 2 minutes ago, RLLD said: LMFAO....you are just going to keep telling us how you feel, aren't you.... I can’t lose. If they find Biden guilty, fock him. I wasn’t going to vote for him anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 6,592 Posted January 5 Biden doesn’t have to take a bribe to be guilty of taking bribes! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,845 Posted January 5 1 minute ago, MDC said: I can’t lose. If they find Biden guilty, fock him. I wasn’t going to vote for him anyway. There is only one way to lose here. The only way we lose is if it might be true that he is guilty, and we do not hold him accountable. Every other outcome and we win. This might not be something you fully understand. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 6,592 Posted January 5 3 minutes ago, RLLD said: There is only one way to lose here. The only way we lose is if it might be true that he is guilty, and we do not hold him accountable. Every other outcome and we win. This might not be something you fully understand. I also win if they don’t find any proof of bribes. Then I either get to see you admit you were wrong or laugh when you backpedal like a clown on a unicycle! Haha! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,845 Posted January 5 17 minutes ago, MDC said: I also win if they don’t find any proof of bribes. Then I either get to see you admit you were wrong or laugh when you backpedal like a clown on a unicycle! Haha! It does not surprise me that you think in these terms, I have always envisioned you as a infantilized adult, and you never fail to confirm it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 6,592 Posted January 5 8 minutes ago, RLLD said: It does not surprise me that you think in these terms, I have always envisioned you as a infantilized adult, and you never fail to confirm it You’re like a cornered rat. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,845 Posted January 5 5 minutes ago, MDC said: You’re like a cornered rat. No I am not, because unlike you....I am not afraid of the truth. So if they do not find evidence, that is fine by me..... and in fact....there are multiple posts already on record of me saying this very thing. So your little gaslighting game exposes you for the liar you are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 6,592 Posted January 5 9 minutes ago, RLLD said: No I am not, because unlike you....I am not afraid of the truth. So if they do not find evidence, that is fine by me..... and in fact....there are multiple posts already on record of me saying this very thing. So your little gaslighting game exposes you for the liar you are. First it was definitive proof, now it’s “evidence.” The backpedaling begins! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,845 Posted January 5 21 minutes ago, MDC said: First it was definitive proof, now it’s “evidence.” The backpedaling begins! Not sure I follow, please elaborate.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 13,899 Posted January 5 1 hour ago, MDC said: Biden doesn’t have to take a bribe to be guilty of taking bribes! That’s correct dummy. Funny you left out the directly part. Just a troll, nothing more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,008 Posted January 5 16 minutes ago, RLLD said: Not sure I follow, please elaborate.... Definitive proof: Biden on tape saying, "Thank you for the bribe! Because you gave me this bribe, I will work to make sure you get that extra $2 billion in aid." If it was Trump, we just need some rumor and it is jail time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 4,631 Posted January 5 3 minutes ago, jonmx said: Definitive proof: Biden on tape saying, "Thank you for the bribe! Because you gave me this bribe, I will work to make sure you get that extra $2 billion in aid." If it was Trump, we just need some rumor and it is jail time. They didn't even need a rumor. The Steele Dossier was all made up and they wanted to hang him for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites