Utilit99 4,099 Posted April 7, 2022 12 minutes ago, TimmySmith said: Why all this talk about NATO? Ukraine did NOT want to join NATO because they were a corrupt autonomous nation. And NATO did NOT want Ukraine to join because of exactly what is happening right now. They didn't want to get involved in a slapfight with Russia. Exactly how dumb are you? It's strange. rusty is so outspoken on this and probably knows the least. Not a good look for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,406 Posted April 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: I’ll take your word for it. But we have to do something to stop this slaughter. The anti tank stuff is great except Russia has curtailed their use of tanks and have gone to more artillery and missiles. What’s the next phase? My latest wife (34D, I think), who leans left, is pretty hawkish about this one. She thinks we need to roll in there and engage the Russians. I'm just fearful that this would result in World War III, and it kind of is at this point. Foreign fighters are pouring in, as are U.S. weapons that have proven effective against stopping the Russians. I know you think the sanctions are mamby pamby and ineffective, but sanctions take time. Right now, I'm for the slow strangulation of the Russian economy and feeding the Ukers the weapons they need to keep focking up the Russian military. China said it's not signing any new oil contracts with Russia, and India has condemned Russia for the atrocities and genocide in Ukraine. With materials running thin, the Russians are losing their ability to keep the war machine even going, much less take over Ukraine and hold it. We need to play the long game here. There is not much we can do outside direct conflict to keep Russia from sending artillery and missiles into Ukraine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,519 Posted April 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Pimpadeaux said: My latest wife (34D, I think), who leans left, is pretty hawkish about this one. She thinks we need to roll in there and engage the Russians. I'm just fearful that this would result in World War III, and it kind of is at this point. Foreign fighters are pouring in, as are U.S. weapons that have proven effective against stopping the Russians. I know you think the sanctions are mamby pamby and ineffective, but sanctions take time. Right now, I'm for the slow strangulation of the Russian economy and feeding the Ukers the weapons they need to keep focking up the Russian military. China said it's not signing any new oil contracts with Russia, and India has condemned Russia for the atrocities and genocide in Ukraine. With materials running thin, the Russians are losing their ability to keep the war machine even going, much less take over Ukraine and hold it. We need to play the long game here. There is not much we can do outside direct conflict to keep Russia from sending artillery and missiles into Ukraine. Poor Ukers. We promised they would be protected if they gave up their nukes. Shame on the West. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,406 Posted April 7, 2022 14 minutes ago, TimmySmith said: Why all this talk about NATO? Ukraine did NOT want to join NATO because they were a corrupt autonomous nation. And NATO did NOT want Ukraine to join because of exactly what is happening right now. They didn't want to get involved in a slapfight with Russia. Exactly how dumb are you? I was responding to Masshole's post, which included talk about NATO, Capt. Readingcomprehension. Quote “Russian leaders have told their Western counterparts on many occasions that they consider NATO expansion into Georgia and Ukraine unacceptable, along with any effort to turn those countries against Russia,” Mearsheimer wrote in Foreign Affairs. “Imagine the outrage in Washington if China built an impressive military alliance and tried to include Canada and Mexico in it.” Essentially, it’s Russia’s Monroe Doctrine. Putin would make this clear again four years after NATO integrated Romania and the Baltics. “No Russian leader could stand idly by in the face of steps toward NATO membership for Ukraine. That would be a hostile act toward Russia,” Putin warned then-Undersecretary for Political Affairs William Burns, now director of the CIA, just before NATO’s 2008 Bucharest Summit. Nevertheless, George W. Bush’s administration supported integrating both Georgia and Ukraine into the alliance at the summit, while France and Germany remained adamantly opposed for fear of poking the Russian bear. You should actually read things before responding, dipsh!t. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,519 Posted April 7, 2022 Kamala acknowledged that Ukraine desired to join NATO. This debate has been settled. The Head of NATO also said that they planned to have Ukraine join. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,519 Posted April 7, 2022 On 3/20/2022 at 9:39 PM, Hardcore troubadour said: Silly. I guess you think Cuba should have been allowed to have nukes like they wanted? I’m sure you would think it’s a swell idea if China put military bases in Mexico? NATO exists as a force against Russia. And you think Russia isn’t going to react when there’s a plan for them to move along side of them? After the NATO summit in Bucharest in 2008, NATO announced that Georgia and Ukraine would be joining NATO in the future. That was a stupid move. Bump Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,406 Posted April 7, 2022 25 minutes ago, TimmySmith said: Why all this talk about NATO? Ukraine did NOT want to join NATO because they were a corrupt autonomous nation. And NATO did NOT want Ukraine to join because of exactly what is happening right now. They didn't want to get involved in a slapfight with Russia. Exactly how dumb are you? 1.) Masshole links to some interesting article indicating Russia's paranoia over Ukraine joining NATO leading up to the invasion. 2.) Pimpadeaux posts a response to the information Masshole provided. 3.) TimmyPeebrain chimes in and questions why Pimpadeaux is bringing up NATO. 4.) Pimpadeaux makes a fool out of TimmyPeebrain, again! POW! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,406 Posted April 7, 2022 Suck it, Russian tank! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted April 7, 2022 29 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said: 1.) Masshole links to some interesting article indicating Russia's paranoia over Ukraine joining NATO leading up to the invasion. 2.) Pimpadeaux posts a response to the information Masshole provided. 3.) TimmyPeebrain chimes in and questions why Pimpadeaux is bringing up NATO. 4.) Pimpadeaux makes a fool out of TimmyPeebrain, again! POW! 5) rusty awards himself another participation trophy for getting his ass kicked all over the board. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,406 Posted April 7, 2022 Germany intercepts Russian soldier's conversation regarding Bucha atrocities. https://www.yahoo.com/news/germany-intercepted-conversations-russian-soldiers-100550605.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,406 Posted April 7, 2022 Russian oligarch says sanctions "capable of destroying everything." https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-oligarch-says-sanctions-against-the-nation-are-capable-of-destroying-everything/ar-AAVYfza?li=BBnb7Kz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,519 Posted April 7, 2022 2 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said: I just see a big difference between a free, democratic country wanting to join an alliance established as a defense against Russian aggression vs. Russia's brutal, barbaric destruction and attempted takeover of another country and committing all manner of genocidal atrocities. It's like shooting someone before they can carry a weapon for self-protection. This is the same kind of mindset that got the Germans all paranoid and fired up prior to Hitler's invasion of Poland. Russia is underscoring why NATO exists in the first place, and Russia has been focking over the Ukraine and committing ungodly acts for decades. Powerful countries wordwide have been doing crapass things for centuries to forward their agendas and protect themselves. Nothing justifies tyranny and autocracy turning a free democracy into rubble. NATO is defense, not offense. “NATO is defensive, not offensive”. Until it isn’t. Just like nuclear weapons are considered defensive. Until they aren’t. I love Pimpadoosh’s one sided proclamations. Not a moment’s thought spent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,060 Posted April 7, 2022 5 hours ago, vomit said: You need to stop watching Russian media. They have brainwashed you You mean right-wing media? Insanely, they’re basically the same thing now 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted April 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: You mean right-wing media? Insanely, they’re basically the same thing now Focking triggered. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted April 7, 2022 2 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said: I was responding to Masshole's post, which included talk about NATO, Capt. Readingcomprehension. You should actually read things before responding, dipsh!t. rusty, the dumbest poster here, should have answered Masshole with my reply to you. Instead you had to look up something that doesn't even apply here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,519 Posted April 7, 2022 19 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: You mean right-wing media? Insanely, they’re basically the same thing now Are you kidding? Fox is pushing the Ukers left and right. And that’s the only significant right wing media I’m aware of. Worms just says things. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,060 Posted April 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Are you kidding? Fox is pushing the Ukers left and right. And that’s the only significant right wing media I’m aware of. Worms just says things. Cucker has been pushing all that Russian propaganda bullsh1t, and you guys are obviously getting it from somewhere. I don’t usually get worked up about partisan media anymore—unfortunately that’s just the way it is these days—but legit believe they’ve crossed the line with pushing our enemy’s lies. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,519 Posted April 7, 2022 6 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: Cucker has been pushing all that Russian propaganda bullsh1t, and you guys are obviously getting it from somewhere. I don’t usually get worked up about partisan media anymore—unfortunately that’s just the way it is these days—but legit believe they’ve crossed the line with pushing our enemy’s lies. Example? This should be interesting. Now run along. And Tucker is one guy. There are 22 other hours in the day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,369 Posted April 7, 2022 54 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: You mean right-wing media? Insanely, they’re basically the same thing now can you link to a story when left wing media was right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted April 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: can you link to a story when left wing media was right? Wild goose chase. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,945 Posted April 7, 2022 So this Zeleski guy is George Soros cousin. Weird, how that happens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vomit 502 Posted April 7, 2022 12 minutes ago, Cdub100 said: So this Zeleski guy is George Soros cousin. Weird, how that happens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted April 7, 2022 9 minutes ago, vomit said: Correct. He's a piece of shlt too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vomit 502 Posted April 7, 2022 Just now, Utilit99 said: Correct. He's a piece of shlt too. It's BS post. Cdub is another clown that posts BS. link or stfu. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,060 Posted April 7, 2022 7 minutes ago, vomit said: It's BS post. Cdub is another clown that posts BS. link or stfu. You’d really have to be pretty focking stupid to not even question that claim. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted April 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: You’d really have to be pretty focking stupid to not even question that claim. You would have to be pretty focking stupid to think Ukraine is some innocent wonderful country with zelenski being an angel leading them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,519 Posted April 7, 2022 8 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: You’d really have to be pretty focking stupid to not even question that claim. So any examples of Carlson spreading Russian propaganda? I know the MSM was all on that Ukrainian propaganda about those sailors. And the ghost of Kiev. And the hotty posing with the fake rifle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,519 Posted April 7, 2022 Zelinsky outlawed 11 political parties. But kept the Nazi brigade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted April 7, 2022 2 hours ago, IGotWorms said: Cucker has been pushing all that Russian propaganda bullsh1t, and you guys are obviously getting it from somewhere. I don’t usually get worked up about partisan media anymore—unfortunately that’s just the way it is these days—but legit believe they’ve crossed the line with pushing our enemy’s lies. Right wingers look out a window to see if it's raining, you guys rely on CNN. Then because we right wingers agree it's raining we must have gotten it from FOX. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vomit 502 Posted April 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, TimmySmith said: Right wingers look out a window to see if it's raining, you guys rely on CNN. Then because we right wingers agree it's raining we must have gotten it from FOX. You're saying that right wingers source their own news? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,406 Posted April 7, 2022 2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: “NATO is defensive, not offensive”. Until it isn’t. Just like nuclear weapons are considered defensive. Until they aren’t. I love Pimpadoosh’s one sided proclamations. Not a moment’s thought spent. Oh, man, I don't where to begin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted April 7, 2022 19 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said: Oh, man, I don't where to begin. You not knowing anything? Is that supposed to be something new? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,406 Posted April 7, 2022 Green beans are a vegetable, not a fruit. Until they're not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,406 Posted April 7, 2022 A Ford F150 is a truck, not a city park. Until it's not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,519 Posted April 7, 2022 27 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said: Oh, man, I don't where to begin. Begin. Having missiles next door controlled by your enemy is no biggie? We’re still making Cuba pay for even trying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,519 Posted April 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Pimpadeaux said: A Ford F150 is a truck, not a city park. Until it's not. See dumb dumb, a truck can never be a park. But an army can become an offensive force. You are stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,406 Posted April 7, 2022 43 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: See dumb dumb, a truck can never be a park. But an army can become an offensive force. You are stupid. So based on your dumb logic, because Canada and Mexico have militaries to protect their countries but have the capability of attacking us, we should hit them hard, turn their cities into rubble, rape the women and torture and execute people. What a bumpkin. NATO's very purpose is to protect its members from what we're seeing in Ukraine. Let's get to the bottom of this in three easy questions for you? How many times has NATO attacked a country? How many NATO countries has Russia attacked? How many non-NATO countries has Russia attacked? Thanks for supporting Russia's gawd-given right to attack another country without provocation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,519 Posted April 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Pimpadeaux said: So based on your dumb logic, because Canada and Mexico have militaries to protect their countries but have the capability of attacking us, we should hit them hard, turn their cities into rubble, rape the women and torture and execute people. What a bumpkin. NATO's very purpose is to protect its members from what we're seeing in Ukraine. Let's get to the bottom of this in three easy questions for you? How many times has NATO attacked a country? How many NATO countries has Russia attacked? How many non-NATO countries has Russia attacked? Thanks for supporting Russia's gawd-given right to attack another country without provocation. You dumbass. You’re comparing mexicos capabilities with NATO’s? It obvious you don’t know what capabilities NATO has. You should stop now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,406 Posted April 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said: You dumbass. You’re comparing mexicos capabilities with NATO’s? It obvious you don’t know what capabilities NATO has. You should stop now. NATO has a lot of capability. Why would Russia worry about that when NATO's purpose is to defend its members? If Russia doesn't attack a NATO country, it has nothing to worry about. It's free to attack any non-NATO country it pleases. Russia should restart the Warsaw gang with China, North Korea, Iran, etc. But you're wanting to keep countries out of NATO so Russia can attack them without it being considered an attack on other countries. Ukraine said it would stay out of NATO, so why would Russia attack it? This is a special kind of mental deficiency you have. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,519 Posted April 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said: NATO has a lot of capability. Why would Russia worry about that when NATO's purpose is to defend its members? If Russia doesn't attack a NATO country, it has nothing to worry about. It's free to attack any non-NATO country it pleases. Russia should restart the Warsaw gang with China, North Korea, Iran, etc. But you're wanting to keep countries out of NATO so Russia can attack them without it being considered an attack on other countries. Ukraine said it would stay out of NATO, so why would Russia attack it? This is a special kind of mental deficiency you have. Ukraines desire to join NATO is well documented. You know so little yet have so much to say. Also, NATOs desire to have Ukraine join is well documented. Public statements and all. You really need to do some research about a country you just heard about during the TDS phase of our countries history. And Russia has a thing about being invaded from the east. They are kind of on guard about it. Jesus man, pick up a history book. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites