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49 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Trump calls off peace talks

Good move. What's the point? Putin is not stopping until American boots are on the ground. And that ain't happening 

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Karoline Leavitt using “your mom” jokes, this really is the sh1tposting admin 

 

 

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Trump finally agrees to sanctions against Russia.  Maybe he finally realized he's getting played like a fiddle.

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2 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Reports that Ukriane has agree to the majority of the peace proposal. No word from Russia.

 

I'm hopeful, but yeah no word from Russia.

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24 minutes ago, FrancieFootball said:

Looks like we aren't exactly close to an end to the war. If this is a fail on Trump's part, going to be a new challenge for MAGAs on how to desperately spin this.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/25/europe/us-ukraine-peace-talks-obstacles-analysis-intl-hnk

Biden started a war in Europe and princess rusty is claiming it as a liberal victory..😆

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Oil Prices Sink as Ukraine Agrees to Peace Deal

By Charles Kennedy - Nov 25, 2025, 7:40 AM CST
  • Oil prices, with WTI dropping below $60 per barrel, extended losses following reports that Ukraine has mostly agreed to a peace deal with the U.S.
  • The agreement, which still has minor details to be sorted out, was confirmed by a U.S. official and a statement from Ukraine's Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council, Rustem Umerov.
  • Traders anticipate that a peace deal could lead to the easing of sanctions on Russia's energy exports, compounding existing concerns about an already oversupplied oil market.

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Steve Witkoff helped Russia derail Ukraine’s access to Tomahawk missiles. He tipped off the Kremlin about Zelensky’s U.S. visit, giving Moscow time to arrange a call that convinced Trump to block the deal. Witkoff actively works against Ukraine’s defense, in coordination with Putin’s regime.

 

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“.. the Witkoff-Dmitriev plan” demands that a substantial share of $300 billion of frozen Russian state assets “be carved up between Washington and Moscow .. This has apparently disappeared from subsequent versions, but there’s no mistaking the intent.”

The grift never stops

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1 hour ago, Ron_Artest said:

Steve Witkoff helped Russia derail Ukraine’s access to Tomahawk missiles. He tipped off the Kremlin about Zelensky’s U.S. visit, giving Moscow time to arrange a call that convinced Trump to block the deal. Witkoff actively works against Ukraine’s defense, in coordination with Putin’s regime.

Seriously the mere concern & potential for this sort of scenario is what got Alger Hiss indicted for spying.

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2 hours ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Seriously the mere concern & potential for this sort of scenario is what got Alger Hiss indicted for spying.

Stop all funding to Ukraine. Problem solved 

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Just now, Maximum Overkill said:

Stop all funding to Ukraine. Problem solved 

There’s a difference between saying stop all funding for Ukraine Vs. America’s no. 1 adversary influencing him to take that decision through his de facto national security advisor.

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3 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

Steve Witkoff helped Russia derail Ukraine’s access to Tomahawk missiles. He tipped off the Kremlin about Zelensky’s U.S. visit, giving Moscow time to arrange a call that convinced Trump to block the deal. Witkoff actively works against Ukraine’s defense, in coordination with Putin’s regime.

 

the source of this scoop?

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1 minute ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

There’s a difference between saying stop all funding for Ukraine

No, I'M SAYING stop all funding to Ukraine. 

It's not our war, let Europe pay for it. 

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58 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

No, I'M SAYING stop all funding to Ukraine. 

It's not our war, let Europe pay for it. 

I agree, it’s not our war. It’s Russia’s and Putin’s war. It started in 2014 when Ukraine sought to join the EU, and it was encouraged when we did nothing about Chechnya in 1999 & Georgia in 2008. And we did nothing while Putin pounded Mariupol, Donetsk & Luhansk through 2021. We promised to protect Ukraine in the Budapest agreement as well. But it is 100% Russia’s war.

However you should know as confected, by Russia, this agreement requires the US to pay plenty, as we will have a hand in reconstruction of what Russia obliterated. Kushner’s presence certainly ensures the Trump Org & the Trump family will get paid as part of that, as with Gaza.

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Maga has gotten:

- a new military alliance with UAE & Saudi Arabia.

- military strikes in the Caribbean & possibly a war there.

- threats of war in Nigeria.

- air strikes in Somalia.

- promise to intervene & reconstruct Israel’s damage in Gaza.

- promise to reconstruct Russia’s damage in Eastern Ukraine.

- promise of support for Syria, a country led by a man Trump personally called a terrorist.

Helluva ride.

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1 hour ago, shadrap said:

the source of this scoop?

Before you go into the Yuzhe, you should know there’s a published recording & transcript of the call and one of the Russian participants has already verified it. The Russians totally love to humiliate the Americans so they’re happy to own it.

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7 hours ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Before you go into the Yuzhe, you should know there’s a published recording & transcript of the call and one of the Russian participants has already verified it. The Russians totally love to humiliate the Americans so they’re happy to own it.

 

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