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[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,101]

11 hours ago, vomit said:

I think people enjoy exposing a doosh

Congrats for exposing yourself....again. 

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

I'm not going to pretend like I've listened to the Disney conference calls on their quarterly reports (I'll probably rightly assume that no one else here has either) but often a company will say to their stockholders "We may take a bit of a hit in area a but we can account for that by an increase in area b" because I have heard that on other conference calls that I was involved in during my life prior to my current career. 

Disney decided to not always cater to China with their films (which is good regardless of the reason- a kiss in Lightyear or the refusal to remove the Statue of Liberty in Spider-Man: No Way Home) and they have still made tons of money.

 

Thor 4 has so far made 130 million less than Thor: Ragnarok (Thor:Love and Thunder is also not as good but...)

Doctor Strange 2 (also not released in China) did 280 million more worldwide than the previous Doctor Strange. Spider-Man: No Way Home (also not released in China) made 769 million more than the previous Spider-Man. 280 +769 is ~1.05 billion.

So take away 130 million from that because Thor has made less to this point. And factor out 145 million difference in budget for the films previous to the new one. and that leaves you with 775 million.

 

Yeah- Disney is doing fine still even without bowing to China. And that is even before you factor in that the other films not released in China made: Black Widow (~2x its budget), Shang Chi (~2.5x its budget), Eternals (~2x its budget).

[Hardcore troubadour 15,425]

Activist investor Daniel Loeb bought a billion dollars worth of Disney stock recently. He wants changes. Maybe Disney will wise up with the woke stuff. Or be forced to. It’s costing them profits 

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9 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

 It’s costing them profits 

No matter how many times you say this, it's been proven wrong over and over.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,425]

2 minutes ago, vomit said:

No matter how many times you say this, it's been proven wrong over and over.

No, it’s spot on. Your stupidity is sad but interesting to observe. You also have great company on this crusade. Lol. 

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11 minutes ago, vomit said:

No matter how many times you say this, it's been proven wrong over and over.

How many $$$ do you make from a market you've been shut out of?
 

I swear to god you revel in your idiocy.  Back to your mom's basement!!

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5 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

How many $$$ do you make from a market you've been shut out of?
 

I swear to god you revel in your idiocy.  Back to your mom's basement!!

They chose to not participate, same way Toyota chose not to participate in selling burgers.  Did Toyota "lose profit" by not including burgers in every vehicle?

You focking children are pathetic.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,425]

2 minutes ago, vomit said:

They chose to not participate, same way Toyota chose not to participate in selling burgers.  Did Toyota "lose profit" by not including burgers in every vehicle?

You focking children are pathetic.

Wow.  It might make sense if Toyota sold burgers. But they don’t.  

[Hardcore troubadour 15,425]

Disney makes movies. China buys movies. No burgers involved.  Just movies. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,101]

3 minutes ago, vomit said:

They chose to not participate, same way Toyota chose not to participate in selling burgers.  Did Toyota "lose profit" by not including burgers in every vehicle?

You focking children are pathetic.

They didn't chose to not participate you f'n jackass - China prevented them from doing so because of their woke BS.  I'm no friend of China, but let's not rewrite history to serve an argument you got curb-stomped on repeatedly.

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Imagine being emotionally invested in whether Disney makes money.  

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

@EternalShinyAndChrome AND @Hardcore troubadour

 

Should Disney have removed the Statue of Liberty from Spider-Man: No Way Home?

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

5 minutes ago, MDC said:

Imagine being emotionally invested in whether Disney makes money.  

I mean- facts are what they are- they are still making money hand over fist.

Some here seem really determined to prove that Disney is losing profits when that isn't the case.

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4 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

They didn't chose to not participate you f'n jackass - China prevented them from doing so because of their woke BS.  I'm no friend of China, but let's not rewrite history to serve an argument you got curb-stomped on repeatedly.

No, they knew that China wouldn't allow them to show certain movies due to content, they kept the content, they chose not to change the movie to get it in China.  You can't be this dumb.  No person is this dumb.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,101]

5 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

@EternalShinyAndChrome AND @Hardcore troubadour

 

Should Disney have removed the Statue of Liberty from Spider-Man: No Way Home?

Nope.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,101]

3 minutes ago, vomit said:

No, they knew that China wouldn't allow them to show certain movies due to content, they kept the content, they chose not to change the movie to get it in China.  You can't be this dumb.  No person is this dumb.

You are.  It's patently obvious.  

If Disney didn't care for China they never would have submitted their movies in the first place to them, but they did.  Which means they still wanted to release them there but China told them to go pound sand with their woke horse-s###.

Disney didn't CHOOSE anything - they got rejected.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,425]

3 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

@EternalShinyAndChrome AND @Hardcore troubadour

 

Should Disney have removed the Statue of Liberty from Spider-Man: No Way Home?

That’s not woke. The subject is woke costing them money.  Keep up. You think doing that means they aren’t woke? Also, woke  is costing them profits at home as well. Just google boycott Disney.  Many people aren’t buying their product anymore. That doesn’t mean they won’t make money. Just not as much. Due to going woke. 

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

5 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Nope.

Why not? If they are doing "zero money in China" and it is such a problem for Lightyear they should have done it for Spider-Man too. They were too invested in keeping the Statue of Liberty there. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,101]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

That’s not woke. The subject is woke costing them money.  Keep up. You think doing that means they aren’t woke? Also, woke  is costing them profits at home as well. Just google boycott Disney.  Many people aren’t buying their product anymore. That doesn’t mean they won’t make money. Just not as much. Due to going woke. 

 

They keep moving the goalposts trying desperately to get a "W" here.  It's pathetic that they can't stay on topic but that's SOP for lefties.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,101]

Just now, Sean Mooney said:

Why not? If they are doing "zero money in China" and it is such a problem for Lightyear they should have done it for Spider-Man too. They were too invested in keeping the Statue of Liberty there. 

As @Hardcore troubadour explained to you above, that's not "woke", which is what WE are talking about specifically in here.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,425]

If Disney took the SOL out to be able to get into China it would have cost them in the US. 

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

That’s not woke. The subject is woke costing them money.  Keep up. You think doing that means they aren’t woke? Also, woke  is costing them profits at home as well. Just google boycott Disney.  Many people aren’t buying their product anymore. That doesn’t mean they won’t make money. Just not as much. Due to going woke. 

No- the wokeness isn't what got the film canceled in China- it was because China wants to pick and choose things. They didn't like the Statue of Liberty in Spider-Man and wouldn't show the movie because Disney refused to remove it. According to your logic- Disney should've bowed to the pressure.

Also "boycott Disney" is a small amount of dopey people on the right who think they are going to effect change when in reality they are going to maybe stop spending money there for a little and then quietly go back to spending money.

Disney is making more money than before. Facts don't support you. 

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

4 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

As @Hardcore troubadour explained to you above, that's not "woke", which is what WE are talking about specifically in here.

The issue is not "woke." The issue is Disney is saying "We are going to make movies the way we want- show them or not." China chose to show some and chose not to show others. Lightyear and Spider-Man got banned in China for different reasons. You guys are the ones arguing that Disney is costing themselves all kinds of money in China by not removing the kiss in Lightyear but are saying "No they should've kept the Statue of Liberty."

The real issue is you guys- for whatever reason- don't like gay people and don't want to see them represented even for 2 seconds in a kids film (that honestly 97% of kids wouldn't even notice unless it was pointed out to them)

3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

If Disney took the SOL out to be able to get into China it would have cost them in the US. 

Yeah that wouldn't have happened either. Maybe a few people who listen to The Blaze or something would've not watched it but it would've been an absolute tear drop in a flood of water. 

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5 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

No- the wokeness isn't what got the film canceled in China- it was because China wants to pick and choose things. They didn't like the Statue of Liberty in Spider-Man and wouldn't show the movie because Disney refused to remove it. According to your logic- Disney should've bowed to the pressure.

Also "boycott Disney" is a small amount of dopey people on the right who think they are going to effect change when in reality they are going to maybe stop spending money there for a little and then quietly go back to spending money.

Disney is making more money than before. Facts don't support you. 

Again, I don’t care what Disney does. I am not a consumer of their product. Im not a kid. From the beginning, I have merely been pointing out that woke cost them profits, and will continue to. You want to thrust on me that I actually GAF about the product. I don’t.  You just can’t grasp what profits mean. There is no amount that a business hits and then says “that’s enough”. They should want to maximize them. Disney doesn’t. Because they are woke. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,101]

4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Again, I don’t care what Disney does. I am not a consumer of their product. Im not a kid. From the beginning, I have merely been pointing out that woke cost them profits, and will continue to. You want to thrust on me that I actually GAF about the product. I don’t.  You just can’t grasp what profits mean. There is no amount that a business hits and then says “that’s enough”. They should want to maximize them. Disney doesn’t. Because they are woke. 

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I'm not sure why this is so hard to grasp.

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

13 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Again, I don’t care what Disney does. I am not a consumer of their product. Im not a kid. From the beginning, I have merely been pointing out that woke cost them profits, and will continue to. You want to thrust on me that I actually GAF about the product. I don’t.  You just can’t grasp what profits mean. There is no amount that a business hits and then says “that’s enough”. They should want to maximize them. Disney doesn’t. Because they are woke. 

1.) You clearly don't understand what profits mean.

2.) Disney is making more money than they were before. MORE. 

3.) All a company needs to hit is whatever there projection was the previous investor call.

4.) What does the whole "kid" thing have to do with it all: You don't watch anything on ABC, ESPN, FX, FXX, National Geographic, Hulu? You don't watch any movies made by 20th Century Fox? You ever use Photobucket online or a GoPro?

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3 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

1.) You clearly don't understand what profits mean.

2.) Disney is making more money than they were before. MORE. 

3.) All a company needs to hit is whatever there projection was the previous investor call.

4.) What does the whole "kid" thing have to do: You don't watch anything on ABC, ESPN, FX, FXX, National Geographic, Hulu? You don't watch any movies made by 20th Century Fox? You ever use Photobucket online or a GoPro?

I was taking specifically about Disney and their entertainment products, movies and TV. Everyone else knows I was. Why do I have to explain that to you? So you can think you made some irrelevant point? 

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4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I was taking specifically about Disney and their entertainment products, movies and TV. Everyone else knows I was. Why do I have to explain that to you? So you can think you made some irrelevant point? 

Again- You don't watch anything on ABC, ESPN, FX, FXX, National Geographic, Hulu? You don't watch any movies made by 20th Century Fox? You ever use Photobucket online or a GoPro?

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23 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

You are.  It's patently obvious.  

If Disney didn't care for China they never would have submitted their movies in the first place to them, but they did.  Which means they still wanted to release them there but China told them to go pound sand with their woke horse-s###.

Disney didn't CHOOSE anything - they got rejected.

DO you think that if Disney really cared, they would just make movies that China would accept, right?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,425]

Just now, Sean Mooney said:

Again- You don't watch anything on ABC, ESPN, FX, FXX, National Geographic, Hulu? You don't watch any movies made by 20th Century Fox? You ever use Photobucket online or a GoPro?

Very little to none of that. Always Sunny on FXX. MNF on ESPN. That’s it. Too much woke on that other crap. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,425]

1 minute ago, vomit said:

DO you think that if Disney really cared, they would just make movies that China would accept, right?

You would. But then they couldn’t push the woke. They chose to be woke. 

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11 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

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I'm not sure why this is so hard to grasp.

Because that's not what happened.  Disney chose not to start making cars, they chose not to make pron, they chose not to alter their content to suit china.  Doesn't mean they don't want to make more money, because they are.

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1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

You would. But then they couldn’t push the woke. They chose to be woke. 

exactly, they chose not to change their content to suit china.  fock china.

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2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Very little to none of that. Always Sunny on FXX. MNF on ESPN. That’s it. Too much woke on that other crap. 

I couldn't imagine living my life like this.

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

5 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Very little to none of that. Always Sunny on FXX. MNF on ESPN. That’s it. Too much woke on that other crap. 

Ok...so then you are a consumer of their products. 

Go play high and mighty elsewhere

[Hardcore troubadour 15,425]

Saying the 2020 election was fraudulent cost the My Pillow Guy profit.  Anyone going to argue that?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,425]

1 minute ago, vomit said:

exactly, they chose not to change their content to suit china.  fock china.

They chose to change their content. They made it woke. And if China let them they would gladly sell their movie in China. So there’s no “Fock China “ involved. If they make a non woke movie and China let’s them in they will be doing business once again. 

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

6 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Saying the 2020 election was fraudulent cost the My Pillow Guy profit.  Anyone going to argue that?

Considering your logic- making 500 million dollars more in one quarter means you are close to going under....so what did MyPillow make in 2021 versus 2020. Anything less than making 499 million I would imagine puts him in Chapter 11. 

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

6 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

They chose to change their content. They made it woke. And if China let them they would gladly sell their movie in China. So there’s no “Fock China “ involved. If they make a non woke movie and China let’s them in they will be doing business once again. 

Leaving the Statue of Liberty in Spider-Man is "woke"?

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,101]

6 minutes ago, vomit said:

Because that's not what happened.  Disney chose not to start making cars, they chose not to make pron, they chose not to alter their content to suit china.  Doesn't mean they don't want to make more money, because they are.

At this point, nobody know WTF you're talking about.  Now you're just making up s### up and seeing if any of it sticks to the wall, desperately hoping people won't notice that you got your a$$ handed to you for the last 5 pages or so.

You can back to your strap-on.  The adults will take it from here.  No more input from you in necessary as you're not adding anything to the convo.