Police office deaths rise as the black population rises.

[iam90sbaby 2,621]

2 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said:

Explain Fort Washington, MD.  60% black population, 1/4 of the national average violent crime rate.

Federal government employees. You just mentioned the exception, good job. Try finding one city outside the DC area. Literally anywhere else in the world. Go.

[Shooter McGavin 618]

16 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said:

Federal government employees. You just mentioned the exception, good job. Try finding one city outside the DC area. Literally anywhere else in the world. Go.

OK, so black with a good job = safe.  Poor and black = dangerous.

Do you see which variable changed in the equation?

[iam90sbaby 2,621]

6 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said:

OK, so black with a good job = safe.  Poor and black = dangerous.

Do you see which variable changed in the equation?

Walk through South Chicago in the middle of the night and then a trailer park and tell me it's the same thing 

[The Real timschochet 6,861]

16 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said:

Walk through South Chicago in the middle of the night and then a trailer park and tell me it's the same thing 

Do you believe that blacks are more violent due to their racial makeup? 

[Alias Detective 1,409]

16 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Do you believe that blacks are more violent due to their racial makeup? 

Why are blacks more violent?  Or don’t you think they are?  Statistics aren’t on your side btw.

 is it a coincidence most crime in my area is perpetrated on blacks by blacks.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

Most violent crimes go unreported. And most murders go unsolved.  People are literally getting away with murder at a high rate. Most of those people are POC. As are the victims. Nice justice system we have 

[craftsman 1,045]

28 minutes ago, Alias Detective said:

Why are blacks more violent?  Or don’t you think they are?  Statistics aren’t on your side btw.

 is it a coincidence most crime in my area is perpetrated on blacks by blacks.

56% of violent crimes committed by a subsection of 13% of our population. Hmmm.... Liberals come out and throw weird stats at us about how black are more susceptible to various illnesses, covid, diseases, and most recently injuries while playing football than white people are so they need special attention to rules to accommodate their needs over whites. But those same people never talk about the possibility of their affinity towards violence. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

If you are doing a serious analysis of crime, then you have to stop using the 13 pct number. Cut it in half when you factor in women don’t commit many murders. Then you have to factor in the elderly and children. What you’re left with is a small fraction of a minority that commit these murders.  But to address that would be racist. And they get away with it because of politics. Oh no, someone got stopped  by the police for two minutes.  Can’t have that in a crime ridden, violent area. So don’t stop anyone. 

[TimHauck 2,922]

Why is OP linking us to the USA today homepage?

[TimHauck 2,922]

1 hour ago, iam90sbaby said:

Federal government employees. You just mentioned the exception, good job. Try finding one city outside the DC area. Literally anywhere else in the world. Go.

I think there are some in the Atlanta area as well

[iam90sbaby 2,621]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

Do you believe that blacks are more violent due to their racial makeup? 

Not sure, but there's definitely a lot more proof of that then there is for instance global warming or there being more than two genders. It's science, man.

[iam90sbaby 2,621]

Just now, TimHauck said:

I think there are some in the Atlanta area as well

There isn't 

[jerryskids 6,846]

It's not the skin color per se; Nigerians are among the most successful US immigrants in recent decades.  They also have a commitment to education, family, community, and personal responsibility.  If we are having fun with correlations...

[TimHauck 2,922]

6 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said:

There isn't 

What are your requirements to meet this definition?

[iam90sbaby 2,621]

3 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

It's not the skin color per se; Nigerians are among the most successful US immigrants in recent decades.  They also have a commitment to education, family, community, and personal responsibility.  If we are having fun with correlations...

Any proof of that or just corporate sjw bullsh!t banter?

[iam90sbaby 2,621]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

What are your requirements to meet this definition?

Move the goal posts as far as you want Timbo

[The Real timschochet 6,861]

1 minute ago, jerryskids said:

It's not the skin color per se; Nigerians are among the most successful US immigrants in recent decades.  They also have a commitment to education, family, community, and personal responsibility.  If we are having fun with correlations...

I think you’re absolutely right that the issues you named are important factors. But when it comes to violence we have to also include poverty and despair. People of goodwill have strong disagreements about both the causes and solutions to these ongoing problems. 
 

However this thread was started with a different purpose in mind: to blame the violence on the racial identity of those who perpetrate it. I don’t think anyone who holds that POV has good will. I think it’s both demonstrably false and disgusting. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

Just now, The Real timschochet said:

I think you’re absolutely right that the issues you named are important factors. But when it comes to violence we have to also include poverty and despair. People of goodwill have strong disagreements about both the causes and solutions to these ongoing problems. 
 

However this thread was started with a different purpose in mind: to blame the violence on the racial identity of those who perpetrate it. I don’t think anyone who holds that POV has good will. I think it’s both demonstrably false and disgusting. 

This poverty nonsense again. Define poverty. No one has to steal to eat in America. No one is freezing or not being educated. Everyone has a smart phone for gods sake. It’s the culture. 

[The Real timschochet 6,861]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

This poverty nonsense again. Define poverty. No one has to steal to eat in America. No one is freezing or not being educated. Everyone has a smart phone for gods sake. It’s the culture. 

If you’re going to deny that poverty plays a significantly high role in crime and violence you’re going to have to ignore all of human history to do so. 

[iam90sbaby 2,621]

2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

If you’re going to deny that poverty plays a significantly high role in crime and violence you’re going to have to ignore all of human history to do so. 

Affluent blacks commit more crime than affluent <insert race>. Google it.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

If you’re going to deny that poverty plays a significantly high role in crime and violence you’re going to have to ignore all of human history to do so. 

And you’re going to have to ignore progress. We had a war on poverty. We won. Less isn’t impoverished.  If your basic needs, and then some, are taken care of you are not impoverished. I defy you to go to a low income area with restaurants all over the place and cars double parked and tell me about poverty. It’s lower income , not poverty. 

[The Real timschochet 6,861]

8 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said:

Affluent blacks commit more crime than affluent <insert race>. Google it.

I wouldn’t know how to Google such a supposed fact. I fear you’re wading in racist garbage. 

[The Real timschochet 6,861]

7 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

And you’re going to have to ignore progress. We had a war on poverty. We won. Less isn’t impoverished.  If your basic needs, and then some, are taken care of you are not impoverished. I defy you to go to a low income area with restaurants all over the place and cars double parked and tell me about poverty. It’s lower income , not poverty. 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in_the_United_States
There are 37 million Americans in poverty. We haven’t won. 

[iam90sbaby 2,621]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

I wouldn’t know how to Google such a supposed fact. I fear you’re wading in racist garbage. 

Well I'm not wasting time getting links you won't open. WaPo has an article.

[The Real timschochet 6,861]

Just now, iam90sbaby said:

Well I'm not wasting time getting links you won't open. WaPo has an article.

I will gladly open whatever link you want to send me. I doubt the WaPo article, whatever it is, says what you’re claiming it does. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

Just now, The Real timschochet said:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in_the_United_States
There are 37 million Americans in poverty. We haven’t won. 

Yeah we have. So by your theory, the violent criminals should overwhelmingly be coming from within that 37 million, and very few from those not in it. Lol. 

[Shooter McGavin 618]

31 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said:

Not sure, but there's definitely a lot more proof of that then there is for instance global warming or there being more than two genders. It's science, man.

Would love to see the scientific proof blacks are more violent whites.  Focking idiot ass hole.

[iam90sbaby 2,621]

3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I will gladly open whatever link you want to send me. I doubt the WaPo article, whatever it is, says what you’re claiming it does. 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/03/23/poor-white-kids-are-less-likely-to-go-to-prison-than-rich-black-kids/

You can skip the first 3 paragraphs.

[jerryskids 6,846]

21 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said:

Any proof of that or just corporate sjw bullsh!t banter?

Quote

Indeed, Nigerian-Americans have more post-graduate degrees than any other racial or ethnic groups. Albeit, they represent a minutia portion of the U.S. population, 37 percent of them hold a bachelor’s degree and 17 percent a master’s. 29 percent of Nigerian-Americans aged 25 and plus, have a graduate degree, compared to 11 percent of the US population. Nigerian accounts for less than 1 percent of the black population in the United States, yet, they make up nearly 25 percent of all Black students at Harvard Business School. It comes to no surprise that Nigerian-Americans’ achievements in the world of education top any other U.S. immigrant groups, including Asian-Americans. Today, a growing number of Nigerian-Americans are entrepreneurs, CEOs and founders of tech companies across the U.S. and abroad.

 

“You must be a Doctor, Lawyer, Engineer, or a Disgrace to the family…”

Nigerian parents also tend to push their children into profitable but arduous careers such as medicine, engineering and law. Recently, Harvard University elected the first black woman to be president of the Harvard Law Review. This black woman happens to be Nigerian, and her name is Imelme A. Umana. Hence why the median annual income of Nigerian diaspora household, according to the Migration Policy Institute, is about $ 52,000, slightly higher than the average $50,000 in the US. They are also more likely to be counted in the higher income brackets as 35% of Nigerian-American households earn the US $90,000 per year.

...

https://medium.com/@joecarleton/why-nigerian-immigrants-are-the-most-successful-ethnic-group-in-the-u-s-23a7ea5a0832

The above is just an excerpt; the entire article is worth a read.  I have admittedly not further confirmed the data in the article, but I will say that my personal experience with successful black people is consistent with this trend.

[Shooter McGavin 618]

17 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

If you’re going to deny that poverty plays a significantly high role in crime and violence you’re going to have to ignore all of human history to do so. 

He's gone a step further to deny that poverty even exists.

[iam90sbaby 2,621]

3 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said:

Would love to see the scientific proof blacks are more violent whites.  Focking idiot ass hole.

Okay lol

[Shooter McGavin 618]

20 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

No one has to steal to eat in America.

Bro, I know people that have trouble putting food on their table.  Stop with this idealist BS.

[The Real timschochet 6,861]

1 minute ago, iam90sbaby said:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/03/23/poor-white-kids-are-less-likely-to-go-to-prison-than-rich-black-kids/

You can skip the first 3 paragraphs.

Wow, way to take an article out of context. Only a full blown, ignorant racist could read that piece and conclude that affluent black youths are more likely to be criminals than other races. Congratulations I guess? You’ve earned that hood. 

[Shooter McGavin 618]

Just now, iam90sbaby said:

Okay lol

Just as I thought, you're full of sh1t.

[Alias Detective 1,409]

Just now, Shooter McGavin said:

Bro, I know people that have trouble putting food on their table.  Stop with this idealist BS.

Do they smoke?  Drink?  Work?  Lol

[iam90sbaby 2,621]

1 minute ago, Shooter McGavin said:

Just as I thought, you're full of sh1t.

Which part? Yes, if you set aside statistics I guess you're right.

[The Real timschochet 6,861]

A

2 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said:

Just as I thought, you're full of sh1t.

I don’t think he’s racist though. Just very right wing in his thinking and unable to consider alternative opinions. 

Some of these other dudes, though…

 

ETA Oops sorry I thought you were replying to Hardcore Troubadour. Iam90sbaby is clearly a racist. So is Alias Detective, IMO. Sad. 

[Shooter McGavin 618]

8 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/03/23/poor-white-kids-are-less-likely-to-go-to-prison-than-rich-black-kids/

You can skip the first 3 paragraphs.

In some ways, though, discrimination against people of color is more complicated and fundamental than economic inequality. A stark new finding epitomizes that reality: In recent decades, rich black kids have been more likely to go to prison than poor white kids.

"Race trumps class, at least when it comes to incarceration," said Darrick Hamilton of the New School, one of the researchers who produced the study.

[Shooter McGavin 618]

4 minutes ago, Alias Detective said:

Do they smoke?  Drink?  Work?  Lol

Most are older that don't smoke, work or drink and aren't in the best health.

[iam90sbaby 2,621]

Just now, Shooter McGavin said:

In some ways, though, discrimination against people of color is more complicated and fundamental than economic inequality. A stark new finding epitomizes that reality: In recent decades, rich black kids have been more likely to go to prison than poor white kids.

"Race trumps class, at least when it comes to incarceration," said Darrick Hamilton of the New School, one of the researchers who produced the study.

Yeah okay, skip the opinions and get to the data. Read the entire article, ffs.