Tree of Knowledge 1,702 Posted January 24, 2024 1 minute ago, BeachGuy23 said: So voting makes one qualified to be president? All three are legit morons friend. Yikes you guys. I bet all 3 are smarter than Big Mike. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 642 Posted January 24, 2024 2 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said: A wonderful false equivilency. If you are asking me if the former first lady is more roundly educated and intelligent than two congresspersons who came to be elected to the raucous house campaigning on red meat issues and tgalking points during the decline of our country I would wholeheartedly agree. That still was not the issue being discussed and is no rebuttal to the silly position. One silly matter does not support the other silly matter. Let's try this. What makes one qualified in your opinion to be president? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 642 Posted January 24, 2024 1 minute ago, Tree of Knowledge said: I bet all 3 are smarter than Big Mike. Try to troll less obviously friend. Otherwise I'm a big fan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,421 Posted January 24, 2024 1 minute ago, Tree of Knowledge said: I bet all 3 are smarter than Big Mike. You’re trying too hard with the Big Mike thing. It’s just stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,131 Posted January 24, 2024 7 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said: Let's try this. What makes one qualified in your opinion to be president? A combination of native intelligence, education in the law, political science, business, or economics, perhaps history certainly not women's studies, and experience organizing and running a substantial enterprise with hundreds if not thousands of employees. Give me Governors, Admirals or Generals, or captains of industry, not wifes. Your advocacy for Michelle Obama would apply equally to Kayleigh McEnany. I would have neither. BTW, Edith Wilson did alright. she is some counterpoint to my position. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,934 Posted January 24, 2024 5 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said: Let's try this. What makes one qualified in your opinion to be president? Being president once already would be a good start. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 642 Posted January 24, 2024 3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Being president once already would be a good start. Not when you left the country an abject disaster. Trump is the Hoover of the 21st century. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,131 Posted January 24, 2024 Also, I am not saying that Michelle Obama could not gain the experience which would in my mind qualify her for the job. I dislike her politics but she seems a capable woman. maybe she could run Chicago then Illinois, then run for President. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 642 Posted January 24, 2024 4 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said: A combination of native intelligence, education in the law, political science, business, or economics, perhaps history certainly not women's studies, and experience organizing and running a substantial enterprise with hundreds if not thousands of employees. Give me Governors, Admirals or Generals, or captains of industry, not wifes. Your advocacy for Michelle Obama would apply equally to Kayleigh McEnany. I would have neither. BTW, Edith Wilson did alright. she is some counterpoint to my position. I agree with all but captains of industry. Too many of those people rose to that level due only to their name and many many fail spectacularly only to be given another shot in another company. So Michelle checks all your boxes other than running a substantial enterprise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 642 Posted January 24, 2024 Just now, Engorgeous George said: Also, I am not saying that Michelle Obama could not gain the experience which would in my mind qualify her for the job. I dislike her politics but she seems a capable woman. maybe she could run Chicago then Illinois, then run for President. This is a reasonable take friend. And truthfully, nothing we think matters. The dems will go down with Joe it appears. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,131 Posted January 24, 2024 7 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said: I agree with all but captains of industry. Too many of those people rose to that level due only to their name and many many fail spectacularly only to be given another shot in another company. So Michelle checks all your boxes other than running a substantial enterprise. She checks the easy boxes. As I said so does Kayleigh Mcenanay who I spotlight since she is from the other side of the political spectrum from you and so I presume you can see how that would be absurd. So too do I check all of the those boxes Michelle Obama checks, as do many here, perhaps yourself included. Those easily checked boxes do not qualify one to bn President of the United States. Sadly she might be able to win in spite of her lack of qualification. She would not be the first to do so. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,421 Posted January 24, 2024 10 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said: BTW, Edith Wilson did alright. she is some counterpoint to my position. Not really. She spent most of her time trying to punish her husband’s enemies. Perhaps if she had been willing to compromise with Republicans the USA would have joined the League of Nations and the entire history of the interwar years rewritten for the better. Who knows? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,131 Posted January 24, 2024 11 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said: This is a reasonable take friend. And truthfully, nothing we think matters. The dems will go down with Joe it appears. Nothing I think matters, that is for certain. I have never voted for a winning President and the national debate consisstently ignores my ideas. Given the results of the elections and the direction of this country I sort of take pride in the fact I am an ignored voice in the wilderness. A madman with laryngitis howling at a streetlight in the belief it is the moon. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,421 Posted January 24, 2024 Just now, Engorgeous George said: Nothing I think matters, that is for certain. I have never voted for a winning President and the national debate consisstently ignores my ideas. Given the results of the elections and the direction of this countgry i sort of take pride in the fact i am an ignored voice in the wilderness. A madman with laryngitis howling at a streetlight in the belief it is the moon. I think you made some pretty good points on this subject. I’ve only voted for two winning Presidents: Ronald Reagan in 1984 and Joe Biden in 2020. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,131 Posted January 24, 2024 5 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Not really. She spent most of her time trying to punish her husband’s enemies. Perhaps if she had been willing to compromise with Republicans the USA would have joined the League of Nations and the entire history of the interwar years rewritten for the better. Who knows? Given my disdain for the United Nations and its sad predecessor I highly doubt history would have worked itself out otherwise as they are show ponies. Real power has always resided elsewhere. That said I cannot disprove your wild speculation and will not try. My point was she is widely believed to have wielded the levers of power for some time and not disasterously, some might even argue effectively. Her only qualification being marriage was the main point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,421 Posted January 24, 2024 Just now, Engorgeous George said: Given my disdain for the united nations and its sad predecessor I highly doubt history would have worked itself out otherwise as they are show ponies. Real power has always resided elsewhere. that saidf I cannot disprove your wild speculation and will not try. My point was she is widely believed to have wielded the levers of power for some time and not diasterously, some might even argue effectively. Her only qualification being m arriage was the main point. The UN was pretty effective in its initial years: created the State of Israel, defended South Korea, etc. I won’t argue that in the years since it has earned your disdain. But I still think it’s a noble idea and necessary. It’s been a while since I read up on Ms Wilson so I’m not sure. I seem to recall she relied heavily on a Colonel House. In any event she wasn’t quite the despicable person her husband was- Woodrow was easily the worst racist President in our history. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,702 Posted January 24, 2024 28 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: You’re trying too hard with the Big Mike thing. It’s just stupid. It’s a reality of they/them’s candidacy and would have to be addressed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,057 Posted January 24, 2024 :checks thread: Yup, still beta cuck ghey. This is embarrassing for you guys 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 1,952 Posted January 24, 2024 2 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: Biden’s who we have and he’ll get the job done. I think it’s going to be pretty decisive. My biggest concern is how the MAGA crowd handle yet another loss. There’s likely to be violence. If so, this time they will be ready for them around The Capitol. The crowd will not be handled with kid gloves. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,702 Posted January 24, 2024 17 minutes ago, squistion said: If so, this time they will be ready for them around The Capitol. The crowd will not be handled with kid gloves. Uh oh…one of these “insurrectionists” might bring a super soaker NEXT time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 1,952 Posted January 24, 2024 1 minute ago, Tree of Knowledge said: Uh oh…one of these “insurrectionists” might bring a super soaker NEXT time. https://www.npr.org/2021/03/19/977879589/yes-capitol-rioters-were-armed-here-are-the-weapons-prosecutors-say-they-used Yes, Capitol Rioters Were Armed. Here Are The Weapons Prosecutors Say They Used In the wake of the Jan. 6 insurrection at the U.S. Capitol, a popular narrative has emerged: that because rioters did not fire guns that day, they were not really "armed." But a review of the federal charges against the alleged rioters shows that they did come armed, and with a variety of weapons: stun guns, pepper spray, baseball bats and flagpoles wielded as clubs. An additional suspect also allegedly planted pipe bombs by the headquarters of the Democratic and Republican parties the night before the riot and remains at large. Those weapons brought violence and chaos to the Capitol. Capitol Police officer Brian Sicknick died one day after two rioters allegedly sprayed him and other officers with what prosecutors describe as an "unknown chemical substance." Four other people in the crowd died in the insurrection, and more than 100 police officers suffered injuries, including cracked ribs, gouged eyes and shattered spinal disks. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,421 Posted January 24, 2024 2 minutes ago, squistion said: https://www.npr.org/2021/03/19/977879589/yes-capitol-rioters-were-armed-here-are-the-weapons-prosecutors-say-they-used Yes, Capitol Rioters Were Armed. Here Are The Weapons Prosecutors Say They Used In the wake of the Jan. 6 insurrection at the U.S. Capitol, a popular narrative has emerged: that because rioters did not fire guns that day, they were not really "armed." But a review of the federal charges against the alleged rioters shows that they did come armed, and with a variety of weapons: stun guns, pepper spray, baseball bats and flagpoles wielded as clubs. An additional suspect also allegedly planted pipe bombs by the headquarters of the Democratic and Republican parties the night before the riot and remains at large. Those weapons brought violence and chaos to the Capitol. Capitol Police officer Brian Sicknick died one day after two rioters allegedly sprayed him and other officers with what prosecutors describe as an "unknown chemical substance." Four other people in the crowd died in the insurrection, and more than 100 police officers suffered injuries, including cracked ribs, gouged eyes and shattered spinal disks. Yep. Brian Sicknick was basically murdered. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,702 Posted January 24, 2024 2 minutes ago, squistion said: https://www.npr.org/2021/03/19/977879589/yes-capitol-rioters-were-armed-here-are-the-weapons-prosecutors-say-they-used Yes, Capitol Rioters Were Armed. Here Are The Weapons Prosecutors Say They Used In the wake of the Jan. 6 insurrection at the U.S. Capitol, a popular narrative has emerged: that because rioters did not fire guns that day, they were not really "armed." But a review of the federal charges against the alleged rioters shows that they did come armed, and with a variety of weapons: stun guns, pepper spray, baseball bats and flagpoles wielded as clubs. An additional suspect also allegedly planted pipe bombs by the headquarters of the Democratic and Republican parties the night before the riot and remains at large. Those weapons brought violence and chaos to the Capitol. Capitol Police officer Brian Sicknick died one day after two rioters allegedly sprayed him and other officers with what prosecutors describe as an "unknown chemical substance." Four other people in the crowd died in the insurrection, and more than 100 police officers suffered injuries, including cracked ribs, gouged eyes and shattered spinal disks. So no guns. Not even a pocket knife. Slingshot, water balloon or whoopie cushion. I think the term is self owned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,934 Posted January 24, 2024 Biden told UAW workers his father was in the auto industry. His father was a used car salesman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 1,952 Posted January 24, 2024 Just now, Tree of Knowledge said: So no guns. Not even a pocket knife. Slingshot, water balloon or whoopie cushion. I think the term is self owned. You know why? Because they would have been picked up by the magnetometers that Trump wanted shut down. It was later verified that some had brought guns but the magnetometers stopped them from getting past a certain point. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,702 Posted January 24, 2024 7 minutes ago, squistion said: You know why? Because they would have been picked up by the magnetometers that Trump wanted shut down. It was later verified that some had brought guns but the magnetometers stopped them from getting past a certain point. So this group that was trying to overthrow the government left guns at home? Hmmm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,934 Posted January 24, 2024 Just now, Tree of Knowledge said: So this group that was trying to overthrow the government left guns at home? Hmmm They had a guillotine! It was four feet tall and had no platform, but still. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,702 Posted January 24, 2024 7 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: They had a guillotine! It was four feet tall and had no platform, but still. That my friend is just an oversized cigar cutter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 1,952 Posted January 24, 2024 2 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said: So this group that was trying to overthrow the government left guns at home? Hmmm https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/politifact/2022/06/15/fact-check-were-firearms-other-weapons-capitol-jan-6/7621149001/ PolitiFact: Tucker Carlson is wrong. Firearms, other weapons at Capitol on Jan. 6 Tucker Carlson: “Not a single person in the crowd on January 6 was found to be carrying a firearm. Not one.” PolitiFact's ruling: False Here's why: As the first House hearing dedicated to the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol aired, Fox News host Tucker Carlson repeated the debunked claim that no one in the crowd was found with a gun. "Just to be clear on terms, an insurrection is when people with guns try to overthrow the government," Carlson said during his June 10 segment. "Not a single person in the crowd on January 6 was found to be carrying a firearm. Not one," he said. That’s wrong. Court documents, video evidence and news coverage directly contradict this characterization. Several rioters had firearms and dozens more wielded knives, bats and other real and makeshift weapons. We reached out to Carlson for comment but did not hear back. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 642 Posted January 24, 2024 11 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said: So this group that was trying to overthrow the government left guns at home? Hmmm I really hope the poor loser MAGAmooks try it again. This time we station snipes on the roof and pick them off as they approach our capital. That will be the last time a group of deplorables tries to screw with the peaceful transition of power in our wonderful country. Sometimes you got a break a few MAGA eggs to make a MAGAless omelette. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,702 Posted January 24, 2024 4 minutes ago, squistion said: https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/politifact/2022/06/15/fact-check-were-firearms-other-weapons-capitol-jan-6/7621149001/ PolitiFact: Tucker Carlson is wrong. Firearms, other weapons at Capitol on Jan. 6 Tucker Carlson: “Not a single person in the crowd on January 6 was found to be carrying a firearm. Not one.” PolitiFact's ruling: False Here's why: As the first House hearing dedicated to the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol aired, Fox News host Tucker Carlson repeated the debunked claim that no one in the crowd was found with a gun. "Just to be clear on terms, an insurrection is when people with guns try to overthrow the government," Carlson said during his June 10 segment. "Not a single person in the crowd on January 6 was found to be carrying a firearm. Not one," he said. That’s wrong. Court documents, video evidence and news coverage directly contradict this characterization. Several rioters had firearms and dozens more wielded knives, bats and other real and makeshift weapons. We reached out to Carlson for comment but did not hear back. So nothing but left wing rags to back you up. Too bad the 1/6 Committee destroyed their evidence. I wonder why? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 1,952 Posted January 24, 2024 Just now, Tree of Knowledge said: So nothing but left wing rags to back you up. Too bad the 1/6 Committee destroyed their evidence. I wonder why? See above, backed up by Court documents, video evidence and news coverage 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,702 Posted January 24, 2024 2 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said: I really hope the poor loser MAGAmooks try it again. This time we station snipes on the roof and pick them off as they approach our capital. That will be the last time a group of deplorables tries to screw with the peaceful transition of power in our wonderful country. Sometimes you got a break a few MAGA eggs to make a MAGAless omelette. Trump is going to win and the left wing cretins will not relinquish power. They will make 1/6 look like a teddy bear picnic. Look at the BLM/Antifa riots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 1,952 Posted January 24, 2024 Just now, Tree of Knowledge said: Trump is going to win and the left wing cretins will not relinquish power. They will make 1/6 look like a teddy bear picnic. Look at the BLM/Antifa riots. Of course Biden will relinquish power if he loses, no reason to think otherwise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 642 Posted January 24, 2024 1 minute ago, Tree of Knowledge said: Trump is going to win and the left wing cretins will not relinquish power. They will make 1/6 look like a teddy bear picnic. Look at the BLM/Antifa riots. Let's see, Trump won in 2016 and no one attacked our capital. Trump lost in 2020 and his low educated base attacked our capital. If he loses in 2024 I really hope his low educated base attacks our capital again. No more white glove treatment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,702 Posted January 24, 2024 3 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said: Let's see, Trump won in 2016 and no one attacked our capital. Trump lost in 2020 and his low educated base attacked our capital. If he loses in 2024 I really hope his low educated base attacks our capital again. No more white glove treatment. There were riots after Trump’s historic electoral landslide of 2016. Also, many domestic terrorist threats were made the weekend after his inauguration during a left wing protest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 642 Posted January 24, 2024 2 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said: There were riots after Trump’s historic electoral landslide of 2016. Also, many domestic terrorist threats were made the weekend after his inauguration during a left wing protest. Was our capital attacked to try to prevent the peaceful transition of power? Nope. So you can just halt with the fake whataboutisms. They matter not. A group of Trump supporters also marched and rioted in Charlottesville. Should we libs keep bringing that up where it makes no sense too? There's still time for you to come around friend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,934 Posted January 24, 2024 I know there were two pipe bombs discovered at the DNC that had been planted the night before. Why aren’t those weapons mentioned? It’s on tape. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,910 Posted January 26, 2024 Such a religious man! Smooth move Donald! Not creepy at all either Share this post Link to post Share on other sites