Hardcore troubadour 15,267 Posted April 5, 2024 Just now, The Real timschochet said: But even if it was true it would be nonsense, just like all the rest of these attacks against Fani Willis. What does any of it have to do with the fact that Trump committed a pretty serious crime by trying to cheat in an election? What absolutely makes me crazy is that we have the focker on tape and we all heard it THREE YEARS AGO and there’s still no trial? Delay delay delay, go after the black woman attorney. Why isn’t Trump’s ass in jail already? This should have happened long since. He cheated in an election after it was over? Just sayin stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,640 Posted April 5, 2024 Just now, Hardcore troubadour said: He cheated in an election after it was over? Just sayin stuff. Yes. He tried to get the Secretary of State to come up with 11,000 more votes so he could challenge the outcome. That’s illegal. He’s on tape. That should be enough to put him away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,267 Posted April 5, 2024 Just now, The Real timschochet said: Yes. He tried to get the Secretary of State to come up with 11,000 more votes so he could challenge the outcome. That’s illegal. He’s on tape. That should be enough to put him away. What kind of votes? Just votes in general? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,640 Posted April 5, 2024 2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: What kind of votes? Just votes in general? Maybe you should go listen to the tape. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,267 Posted April 5, 2024 3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Maybe you should go listen to the tape. I did. But I’m asking you. Why are you dodging? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,200 Posted April 5, 2024 Fani Willis Told to Recuse Herself From Trump Case or Face Jail Quote Floyd posted part of an article purportedly from the Atlanta Journal-Constitution suggesting that Willis' office shared a recording of a conversation Willis had with his attorney, Carlos J.R. Salvado, in an unrelated criminal case in Maryland. Floyd suggested that Willis' office may have violated the Maryland Wiretap Act, under which it is unlawful to record any private in-person conversation or telephone communication unless you are a party to the conversation and have the permission of all of the parties. I am not sure how I feel about this. Is she is vile piece of sh!t abusing the legal system to take down a political opponent.....absofuckinglutely..... in that regard, she should be targeted at every turn..... BUT This then opens up the risk of becoming just like her. And none of us should allow ourselves to devolve into filth like her. SO....I have an issue in this in that it looks almost like extortion to me..... and wrong is wrong, even when its wrong toward someone who richly deserves it.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,421 Posted April 5, 2024 2 minutes ago, RLLD said: Fani Willis Told to Recuse Herself From Trump Case or Face Jail I am not sure how I feel about this. Is she is vile piece of sh!t abusing the legal system to take down a political opponent.....absofuckinglutely..... in that regard, she should be targeted at every turn..... BUT This then opens up the risk of becoming just like her. And none of us should allow ourselves to devolve into filth like her. SO....I have an issue in this in that it looks almost like extortion to me..... and wrong is wrong, even when its wrong toward someone who richly deserves it.... She should recuse herself. The case doesn't go away if she does. It gets assigned to another prosecutor. It doesn't let Trump off the hook. If only to avoid even the look of corruption she should recuse herself. The question people should be asking themself is why she WON'T recuse herself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,200 Posted April 5, 2024 Just now, Strike said: She should recuse herself. The case doesn't go away if she does. It gets assigned to another prosecutor. It doesn't let Trump off the hook. If only to avoid even the look of corruption she should recuse herself. The question people should be asking themself is why she WON'T recuse herself. I do not think she can. I think she made a deal with the White House, and if she pulls out....another prosecutor might not pursue this pile of excrement.....or....maybe she only gets the promised reward if SHE is the one who takes out Trump. This is about what Fani thinks she can get if she manages to eliminate a political opponent, so chances are she will have to be dragged out kicking and screaming rather than give up the promised payback Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,251 Posted April 5, 2024 2 hours ago, Strike said: So Fani illegally recorded a phone conversation with an attorney in Maryland. She has been told by a defense lawyer to recuse herself by Monday or they will pursue all legal avenues regarding the illegal recording. She's not very bright. Lol. How would the people in Maryland know she recorded the conversation? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 642 Posted April 5, 2024 19 minutes ago, RLLD said: I do not think she can. I think she made a deal with the White House, and if she pulls out....another prosecutor might not pursue this pile of excrement.....or....maybe she only gets the promised reward if SHE is the one who takes out Trump. This is about what Fani thinks she can get if she manages to eliminate a political opponent, so chances are she will have to be dragged out kicking and screaming rather than give up the promised payback LMFAO Ah, the old secret agreement with the WH for payolla. You of course require ZERO proof before your tiny brain sucks up this CT like the bleach and light Trump instructed his minions to inject. LOL at you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,421 Posted April 5, 2024 5 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said: How would the people in Maryland know she recorded the conversation? Have no idea what you're asking. What people? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,251 Posted April 5, 2024 1 hour ago, Jose M said: And reported by the Atlantic Journal-Constitution who claim to have a copy of the recording. A left leaning news agency. do you mean the Atlanta Journal Constitution, because I can't find an Atlantic Journal-Constitution? And if so where? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,251 Posted April 5, 2024 2 minutes ago, Strike said: Have no idea what you're asking. What people? I was asking how would the people recorded know they were recorded since you did not provide a link as usual, but I round the answer in the story @RLLD posted. Helps when you state something if you actually share that info and story with everyone. TIA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,421 Posted April 5, 2024 3 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said: I was asking how would the people recorded know they were recorded since you did not provide a link as usual, but I round the answer in the story @RLLD posted. Helps when you state something if you actually share that info and story with everyone. TIA I do when I'm on a computer. Much more cumbersome on a phone. Glad you found it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,251 Posted April 5, 2024 Just now, Strike said: I do when I'm on a computer. Much more cumbersome on a phone. Glad you found it. Fair enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,267 Posted April 5, 2024 4 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said: I was asking how would the people recorded know they were recorded since you did not provide a link as usual, but I round the answer in the story @RLLD posted. Helps when you state something if you actually share that info and story with everyone. TIA It had to be laid out to you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,640 Posted April 5, 2024 40 minutes ago, RLLD said: Fani Willis Told to Recuse Herself From Trump Case or Face Jail I am not sure how I feel about this. Is she is vile piece of sh!t abusing the legal system What crap. She’s prosecuting Trump because he committed a crime. He’s on tape. I don’t understand you guys at all. This is not a political prosecution, she’s not working with Biden. And why the Fock should she recuse herself? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,267 Posted April 5, 2024 2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: What crap. She’s prosecuting Trump because he committed a crime. He’s on tape. I don’t understand you guys at all. This is not a political prosecution, she’s not working with Biden. And why the Fock should she recuse herself? So no comment about what votes he wanted found. Obviously you didn’t listen to the phone call. Sad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,640 Posted April 5, 2024 OK I just read more about this so-called story: https://www.newsweek.com/fani-willis-told-recuse-donald-trump-georgia-case-harrison-floyd-1887178 the whole accusation is really flimsy. The tape is a conversation related to an unrelated case. It’s a felony to record it in Maryland (not in Georgia) and we don’t even know if Fani actually did it. The guy making the accusation and threat, a MAGA Trump ally, proves himself a moron and a racist by calling Fani Willis a “DEI hire”- code for she’s black and therefore incompetent. Embarrassing for Newsweek to even run with this story. What has happened to that once proud magazine? Anyhow the whole thing sounds like total BS as usual; not surprised @Strike would run with it. Sorry guys Trump committed a major felony here. He is not going to be able to weasel out of it. There will be a trial, probably after the election, he will convicted and go to prison where he belongs. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,640 Posted April 5, 2024 8 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: So no comment about what votes he wanted found. Obviously you didn’t listen to the phone call. Sad. I’m not responding to your question because it’s a stupid argument, revisionist history. Trump can argue in court if he wants that he truly believed the votes were there. It won’t fly; too many of his former allies will contradict him. He’s going down for this. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,200 Posted April 5, 2024 34 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: What crap. She’s prosecuting Trump because he committed a crime. He’s on tape. I don’t understand you guys at all. This is not a political prosecution, she’s not working with Biden. And why the Fock should she recuse herself? He may have committed a crime, I presume a trial will confirm it....right now, she is just another corrupt participant in a system being wildly abused.... this is emphatically....political persecution... I think there are two sides to this. I do not think she she recuse herself as this little maneuver stinks of gamesmanship.....not unlike what she is doing.....and wrong is wrong From a legal standpoint.....there is some justification for her to do so, but I object to her being extorted into it.....that would be no different than the lawfare effectively extorting Trump to "recuse" himself from running for office Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,200 Posted April 5, 2024 52 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said: LMFAO Ah, the old secret agreement with the WH for payolla. You of course require ZERO proof before your tiny brain sucks up this CT like the bleach and light Trump instructed his minions to inject. LOL at you. Yeah, I also had no proof that the Hunter laptop was real....but had enough common sense to understand it was.....I also understood (and posted about it) that Biden was fomenting inflation....no proof of course.....and yet....waalaaahhhh there it was.... If you were as interested in the powerful on the left being held to the same level of account that you hold the right, I would probably only be posting cat videos....(for sux of course) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 642 Posted April 5, 2024 36 minutes ago, RLLD said: Yeah, I also had no proof that the Hunter laptop was real....but had enough common sense to understand it was.....I also understood (and posted about it) that Biden was fomenting inflation....no proof of course.....and yet....waalaaahhhh there it was.... If you were as interested in the powerful on the left being held to the same level of account that you hold the right, I would probably only be posting cat videos....(for sux of course) Yes of course. Biden created inflation that doubled every month from February 2021 to July 2021. Of course a president can create inflation in a month or two. Nothing to do with the massive spending and free money the prior administration reveled in. You're not a serious person. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,200 Posted April 5, 2024 4 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said: Yes of course. Biden created inflation that doubled every month from February 2022 to July 2021. Of course a president can create inflation in a month or two. Nothing to do with the massive spending and free money the prior administration reveled in. You're not a serious person. I am serious enough to speak truth, even when it is standing up tp the lies of the indoctrinated who defend the powerful at the expense of the weak. Defend the likes of Biden when he has harmed so many is indefensible, and you should be ashamed.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,640 Posted April 5, 2024 24 minutes ago, RLLD said: He may have committed a crime, I presume a trial will confirm it....right now, she is just another corrupt participant in a system being wildly abused.... this is emphatically....political persecution... I think there are two sides to this. I do not think she she recuse herself as this little maneuver stinks of gamesmanship.....not unlike what she is doing.....and wrong is wrong From a legal standpoint.....there is some justification for her to do so, but I object to her being extorted into it.....that would be no different than the lawfare effectively extorting Trump to "recuse" himself from running for office Many of your comments here are based on no reality, actually a fantasy they exists only in MAGAland. For example: “a system being wildly abused” ”this is…emphatically…political persecution” ”not unlike she is doing (gamesmanship)” “I object to her being extorted into it” NONE of this is real. NONE of it is related, in any way, to what is actually happening. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,640 Posted April 5, 2024 5 minutes ago, RLLD said: I am serious enough to speak truth, even when it is standing up tp the lies of the indoctrinated who defend the powerful at the expense of the weak. Defend the likes of Biden when he has harmed so many is indefensible, and you should be ashamed.... Again “when Biden has harmed so many”- are you referring to his policies? Or something more nefarious? If it’s the first then I respectfully disagree the you, and we can have that debate. If it’s the second then once again you’re trapped in MAGA fantasyland. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 642 Posted April 5, 2024 12 minutes ago, RLLD said: I am serious enough to speak truth, even when it is standing up tp the lies of the indoctrinated who defend the powerful at the expense of the weak. Defend the likes of Biden when he has harmed so many is indefensible, and you should be ashamed.... Boyo. TRUMP created inflation. He spent the most money ever in a four year period. He bullied the Fed to keep rates near 0%. He was president when supply chains were destroyed. Please tell me how Biden caused inflation to double from Jan 21 - Jul 21. Also please tell me how a presidents actions can cause a lagging indicator like inflation to manifest in a month or two. I'll patiently wait for you linking to some cultist talking and never linking to any actual statistics. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,200 Posted April 5, 2024 10 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Many of your comments here are based on no reality, actually a fantasy they exists only in MAGAland. For example: “a system being wildly abused” ”this is…emphatically…political persecution” ”not unlike she is doing (gamesmanship)” “I object to her being extorted into it” NONE of this is real. NONE of it is related, in any way, to what is actually happening. I stand by every statement.....what is being done is wrong, and now that its starting to be done to Fani......I object to it still..... All of this is real, but you have to suppress your bias Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,200 Posted April 5, 2024 9 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Again “when Biden has harmed so many”- are you referring to his policies? Or something more nefarious? If it’s the first then I respectfully disagree the you, and we can have that debate. If it’s the second then once again you’re trapped in MAGA fantasyland. The harm is evident but you have to care about people and their harm. and then you have to accept it and stop it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,200 Posted April 5, 2024 3 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said: Boyo. TRUMP created inflation. He spent the most money ever in a four year period. He bullied the Fed to keep rates near 0%. He was president when supply chains were destroyed. Please tell me how Biden caused inflation to double from Jan 21 - Jul 21. Also please tell me how a presidents actions can cause a lagging indicator like inflation to manifest in a month or two. I'll patiently wait for you linking to some cultist talking and never linking to any actual statistics. Trump did not create inflation, it has existed for some time. Every administration. well almost every, can lay some claim to poor handling of it. But nothing compares to what Biden did. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,640 Posted April 5, 2024 3 minutes ago, RLLD said: I stand by every statement.....what is being done is wrong, and now that its starting to be done to Fani......I object to it still..... All of this is real, but you have to suppress your bias If it’s real you have to prove it, show some evidence. Forget bias, present some facts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,640 Posted April 5, 2024 4 minutes ago, RLLD said: The harm is evident but you have to care about people and their harm. and then you have to accept it and stop it. So if I don’t accept your narrative I don’t care about people? Again stop worrying about my biases and what I care about and present some facts to support your positions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,267 Posted April 5, 2024 1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said: I’m not responding to your question because it’s a stupid argument, revisionist history. Trump can argue in court if he wants that he truly believed the votes were there. It won’t fly; too many of his former allies will contradict him. He’s going down for this. Still didn’t listen to the tape. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,200 Posted April 5, 2024 7 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: If it’s real you have to prove it, show some evidence. Forget bias, present some facts. I already have, in multiple threads. It has even reaches such a point of ridiculousness that even some journalists are calling it out Some of them call out the problems of it all I base my opinions on a)simple common sense and b)multiple sources. This is all a sinister game, and later when the Republicans seek revenge by doing it to one of your folks, come find me....it will still be wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,200 Posted April 5, 2024 10 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: So if I don’t accept your narrative I don’t care about people? Again stop worrying about my biases and what I care about and present some facts to support your positions. I think it starts with caring about people, and that should be enough to ensure you face it forthrightly.... Right now, in the absence of acceptance of their plight, I do not foresee actual....meaningful.....effort to face down a problem that is ravaging the lower class. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,640 Posted April 5, 2024 6 minutes ago, RLLD said: I already have, in multiple threads. It has even reaches such a point of ridiculousness that even some journalists are calling it out Some of them call out the problems of it all I base my opinions on a)simple common sense and b)multiple sources. This is all a sinister game, and later when the Republicans seek revenge by doing it to one of your folks, come find me....it will still be wrong. The first link is to an opinion piece: The author offers a pov, one that I disagree with, but it certainly doesn’t back up a single one of your statements. The second link is focused solely on the New York hush money case. Not sure how that’s even relevant. And again it’s reporting certain people’s opinions, no facts are presented. Making the claim that the Georgia case is a political persecution, and that the system is being “wildly abused” are pretty serious charges and if you want me to take you seriously you need evidence to back it up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,640 Posted April 5, 2024 13 minutes ago, RLLD said: I think it starts with caring about people, and that should be enough to ensure you face it forthrightly.... Right now, in the absence of acceptance of their plight, I do not foresee actual....meaningful.....effort to face down a problem that is ravaging the lower class. Again you’re speaking in generalities, and I really have no idea what you’re referring to. It would help if you wrote “on such and such date Joe Biden committed this act and it caused this painful outcome.” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 642 Posted April 5, 2024 56 minutes ago, RLLD said: Trump did not create inflation, it has existed for some time. Every administration. well almost every, can lay some claim to poor handling of it. But nothing compares to what Biden did. What did Biden do specifically that made inflation so much worse? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,267 Posted April 5, 2024 4 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said: What did Biden do specifically that made inflation so much worse? Threw gas on a fire. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 642 Posted April 5, 2024 6 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Threw gas on a fire. Explain please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites