IGotWorms 4,058 Posted August 18, 2023 I think equal opportunity is good. Obviously it will never be completely possible as people have different resources ($$$) available to them. We can’t all afford to go to Harvard. But the idea that everyone should have an opportunity is laudable. But equal outcomes? No, that’s crazy. I don’t think anyone really supports that, but if they do, they aren’t getting my support. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted August 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: I think equal opportunity is good. Obviously it will never be completely possible as people have different resources ($$$) available to them. We can’t all afford to go to Harvard. But the idea that everyone should have an opportunity is laudable. But equal outcomes? No, that’s crazy. I don’t think anyone really supports that, but if they do, they aren’t getting my support. Opportunities? Yes Outcomes? No. But there is a wide swath in the middle. And we make concessions towards equity today. If you're poor, there is govt assistance that rich people don't get. I don't see anything wrong with that. It's not guaranteeing an outcome, but helping people achieve an outcome because they were born under sh1t circumstances. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 1,490 Posted August 18, 2023 12 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: Opportunities? Yes Outcomes? No. But there is a wide swath in the middle. And we make concessions towards equity today. If you're poor, there is govt assistance that rich people don't get. I don't see anything wrong with that. It's not guaranteeing an outcome, but helping people achieve an outcome because they were born under sh1t circumstances. That's the thing tho...people want the same outcome for all, govt assistance or not. People who get govt assistance want to be rich, and they want the rich people to be poor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,911 Posted August 18, 2023 9 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: Opportunities? Yes Outcomes? No. But there is a wide swath in the middle. And we make concessions towards equity today. If you're poor, there is govt assistance that rich people don't get. I don't see anything wrong with that. It's not guaranteeing an outcome, but helping people achieve an outcome because they were born under sh1t circumstances. My Wife and I donate time & money to local food banks, shelters, I donate meat from Hunts, etc. I will help anyone out who's down on their luck. We've all been there. However I will not tolerate a freeloader, a thief or anyone looking for a handout. I don't feel sorry for any of these people that I post. There's more than enough help out there if you need it, they don't. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted August 18, 2023 1 minute ago, TheNewGirl said: That's the thing tho...people want the same outcome for all, govt assistance or not. People who get govt assistance want to be rich, and they want the rich people to be poor. Well most people want to be rich, but I've never heard a poor person say that they want rich people to be poor like them. Have you? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,911 Posted August 18, 2023 1 minute ago, GutterBoy said: I've never heard a poor person say that they want rich people to be poor like them. That's Antifa's whole platform 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 1,490 Posted August 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: Well most people want to be rich, but I've never heard a poor person say that they want rich people to be poor like them. Have you? LOL, yes. I have. They believe that it's jus not fair they are rich and if they were poor they'd understand "real" struggle. Pretty sure there are people that think Trump should experience poverty. And just give out his money, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted August 18, 2023 Just now, TheNewGirl said: LOL, yes. I have. They believe that it's jus not fair they are rich and if they were poor they'd understand "real" struggle. Pretty sure there are people that think Trump should experience poverty. And just give out his money, Well that's kinda different. Sure it would be great if rich people we're such douche bags and understood the struggle. Many do, some don't. And the Trump thing, that's just cause people hate Trump. I seriously doubt that any significant number of poor people want everyone to be poor just like them. That just sounds like nonsense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,699 Posted August 18, 2023 52 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: I think equal opportunity is good. Obviously it will never be completely possible as people have different resources ($$$) available to them. We can’t all afford to go to Harvard. But the idea that everyone should have an opportunity is laudable. But equal outcomes? No, that’s crazy. I don’t think anyone really supports that, but if they do, they aren’t getting my support. But you support the Biden Administration which is full of equity hires. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,230 Posted August 18, 2023 52 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: Opportunities? Yes Outcomes? No. But there is a wide swath in the middle. And we make concessions towards equity today. If you're poor, there is govt assistance that rich people don't get. I don't see anything wrong with that. It's not guaranteeing an outcome, but helping people achieve an outcome because they were born under sh1t circumstances. An under-appreciated distinction, and one with wich I concur. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,911 Posted August 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Baker Boy said: But you support the Biden Administration which is full of equity hires. Charity hires. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,911 Posted August 18, 2023 Sorry, I was only joking about GUTTERBOY. I had now idea it was true. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,937 Posted August 18, 2023 If you're five foot-three and 300 lbs, taxes ought not pay for your bags of Fudge Rounds. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,022 Posted August 18, 2023 16 minutes ago, League Champion said: Holy shlt. Thst lady needs to be put to sleep. Take her straight to the local animal hospital and start shooting her up immediately. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted August 19, 2023 6 hours ago, TheNewGirl said: That's the thing tho...people want the same outcome for all, govt assistance or not. People who get govt assistance want to be rich, and they want the rich people to be poor. That’s silly, not very many people believe that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites