Communism is Worse Than Fascism

[TheNewGirl 1,347]

11 hours ago, posty said:

Communism is just a red herring…

Mrs. Peacock was a MAN?! 

[jonmx 2,424]

47 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Is there anything that’s not a conspiracy with you?

Is there no truth you won't bury you head in the sand for?  Our rights are being abused by three-letter agencies in the executive branch on a daily basis and we have no way to hold them accountable.  But you love tyranny as long as it shuts up those stupid flag-waving Americans.  

What you call conspiracy theories are really just human-nature and what happens when you have very powerful organization wielding unchecked power.

[jonmx 2,424]

11 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

You vote for conspiracy theorists.  So why are you complaining? 

Nothing about it is a theory though.  We know Joe and Hunter profited tens of millions of dollars peddling aid and influence to Russia, China and Ukraine among others.  We know this has been heavily covered up by forces within the IRS, FBI and DOJ.  These are known facts. 

The entire executive branch with all of their agencies are corrupt to the core and are peddling money and power to their friends while taking the rights aways from every American.  Democrats support that 100 percent as long as it is not Reagan or Bush or Trump doing it.  Trump may not be the sharpest tool on many fronts, bit wanting to drain the swamp is needed. 

I just don't believe he gets the structural problems with the lack of accountability and oversight, which just means we will be replacing one set of turds with another set of turds.   We need every one of the authoritarian bastards running those federal agencies to be accountable to the people and hung up to dry when they abuse the laws.  Currently they are entirely unchecked, and unchecked authority leads to corruption and abuse 100 percent od the time.  Thst is human nature. 

[posty 2,612]

10 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

Mrs. Peacock was a MAN?! 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,832]

14 hours ago, squistion said:

Dude, If you lived under Nazi Germany you were probably not grateful it was not instead under Stalin's Russia IMO.

I don't understand what you're saying here.  Are you implying that living under Hitler's "fascism" was worse than Stalin's Communism?

Are you serious, Clark?  Are you actually trying to make that case?

[jonmx 2,424]

55 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Is there anything that’s not a conspiracy with you?

It is human nature.   People conspire for power.  Being naive and trusting people with power has been the downfall of every society which ever existed.  Our founders recognized this and created a system with checks and balances.  It took about 180 years, but loopholes are being exploited and unhealthy alliances have been formed which is methodically stripping away our rights and freedoms over the last 60 plus years.  But who cares, as long as we don't elect those evil conservatives who still respect the rights enumerated in the Constitution. 

[TheNewGirl 1,347]

10 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

I don't understand what you're saying here.  Are you implying that living under Hitler's "fascism" was worse than Stalin's Communism?

Are you serious, Clark?  Are you actually trying to make that case?

So, not trying to build the case, but Stalin was trying to build something sustainable that didn't necessarily depend on HIM running things, he knew he wouldn't be around forever. Hitler was the opposite, the way he was building relied ONLY on him, and wouldn't be sustainable if he was gone. 

They are both horrible, but they had two different ideals. Not sure if one was better/worse. 

[Fnord 2,051]

1 hour ago, jonmx said:

It is human nature.   People conspire for power.  Being naive and trusting people with power has been the downfall of every society which ever existed.  Our founders recognized this and created a system with checks and balances.  It took about 180 years, but loopholes are being exploited and unhealthy alliances have been formed which is methodically stripping away our rights and freedoms over the last 60 plus years.  But who cares, as long as we don't elect those evil conservatives who still respect the rights enumerated in the Constitution. 

Your answer to all of this is to elect Trump. The man who is literally running on a platform of consolidating power under the executive branch. How are you so deeply ensconced in your beliefs, yet oblivious to this absurd irony?

[jonmx 2,424]

47 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Your answer to all of this is to elect Trump. The man who is literally running on a platform of consolidating power under the executive branch. How are you so deeply ensconced in your beliefs, yet oblivious to this absurd irony?

A usual, a clueless response that avoids any issues of substance.  And I really don't think Trump is the answer, although I would vote for any candidate who wants to tear down the corrupt political establishment, and that includes Trump, RFK jr., and Ramaswamy.  All other candidates including DeSantis will just keep our path of endless expansion of unchecked executive branch power in place, which is rapidly turning us into an authoritarian state.

Do you really think an army of executive branch agencies run by unelected bureaucrats, all of which are illegally arming themselves as if they were storm troopers, is a good way to run the country?  The NSA is spying on everyone.  The FBI wants to investigate people for speaking up at PTA meetings as well as raiding homes of journalists who dare expose the establishment.  And that does not even get into their many false flag events which you are too ignorant to believe.  The IRS ignores all due process and privacy.  They all collude with big tech and the media to tell the official government narrative and censor opposing views.  

[Fnord 2,051]

29 minutes ago, jonmx said:

A usual, a clueless response that avoids any issues of substance.  And I really don't think Trump is the answer, although I would vote for any candidate who wants to tear down the corrupt political establishment, and that includes Trump, RFK jr., and Ramaswamy.  All other candidates including DeSantis will just keep our path of endless expansion of unchecked executive branch power in place, which is rapidly turning us into an authoritarian state.

Do you really think an army of executive branch agencies run by unelected bureaucrats, all of which are illegally arming themselves as if they were storm troopers, is a good way to run the country?  The NSA is spying on everyone.  The FBI wants to investigate people for speaking up at PTA meetings as well as raiding homes of journalists who dare expose the establishment.  And that does not even get into their many false flag events which you are too ignorant to believe.  The IRS ignores all due process and privacy.  They all collude with big tech and the media to tell the official government narrative and censor opposing views.  

I'm gonna try really hard to remain respectful here. That's tough because there is no give whatsoever with you, and you like to blame giant groups of people for the thoughts and actions of a very small minority within those groups.

For your beliefs to be truth, literally millions of people would need to be knowingly acting against the best interests of themselves and their loved ones. I don't trust big pharma or big medicine, but in your view, pretty much anyone employed in those industries, along with law enforcement, print and broadcast media, and career civil servants, is an evil POS.

I've spent time working in media and medicine, and seen first-hand those that work in those fields, from tiny little rural radio stations and community clinics, to the biggest broadcast networks and world renowned hospitals. These people are overwhelmingly decent and hard working, and regardless of their personal politics, care about doing the right thing for their patients and consumers. 

When I encounter people like you, my default opinion, which is ALWAYS subject to change depending on circumstances and new information, is that you project your own way of thinking onto others. And if you are a miserable person willing to compromise whatever bit of morality you have left for personal gain, you will assume everyone else is thinking the same way. If you are decent, and treat others with decency, your world view will reflect it. And you will realize that demonizing millions of people is foolish, short-sighted, and ultimately extremely destructive; not only for your own well-being, but for society at large.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,926]

Pharmaceuticals should not be allowed to be advertised. It’s ridiculous. 

[Fnord 2,051]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Pharmaceuticals should not be allowed to be advertised. It’s ridiculous. 

So you DO hate the first amendment! I knew it.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,926]

3 minutes ago, Fnord said:

So you DO hate the first amendment! I knew it.

No. You can’t advertise cigarettes, can you?  Another loss.  

[TheNewGirl 1,347]

They don’t advertise booze in some European countries, I’ve always found that interesting given the amount that some of those nations drink. 

[Fnord 2,051]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

No. You can’t advertise cigarettes, can you?  Another loss.  

So cigarettes and pharmaceuticals are the same? A comparison for twats, from one. Twatadour.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,926]

3 minutes ago, Fnord said:

So cigarettes and pharmaceuticals are the same? A comparison for twats, from one. Twatadour.

That’s up for you to decide. Some people say It can be worse. But the subject was the 1A, which I showed can be restricted.  Again I say, a loss for you.  

[Fnord 2,051]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Again I say, a loss for you.  

Are you quoting Tucker? We all know that's who speaks for you.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,926]

Just now, Fnord said:

Are you quoting Tucker? We all know that's who speaks for you.

That one went stale already. Be more interesting. 

[seafoam1 2,799]

1 minute ago, Fnord said:

Are you quoting Tucker? We all know that's who speaks for you.

Is that kamala I hear coming from you?

[Fnord 2,051]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

That one went stale already. Be more interesting. 

I'll stop going to that well only after it's been polluted to the point of being poisonous due to regulations repealed by your boy Trump. Be more intelligent. 

[seafoam1 2,799]

1 hour ago, Fnord said:

I'll stop going to that well only after it's been polluted to the point of being poisonous due to regulations repealed by your boy Trump. Be more intelligent. 

What a complete idiot you are. 

[jonmx 2,424]

8 hours ago, Fnord said:

I'm gonna try really hard to remain respectful here. That's tough because there is no give whatsoever with you, and you like to blame giant groups of people for the thoughts and actions of a very small minority within those groups.

For your beliefs to be truth, literally millions of people would need to be knowingly acting against the best interests of themselves and their loved ones. I don't trust big pharma or big medicine, but in your view, pretty much anyone employed in those industries, along with law enforcement, print and broadcast media, and career civil servants, is an evil POS.

I've spent time working in media and medicine, and seen first-hand those that work in those fields, from tiny little rural radio stations and community clinics, to the biggest broadcast networks and world renowned hospitals. These people are overwhelmingly decent and hard working, and regardless of their personal politics, care about doing the right thing for their patients and consumers. 

When I encounter people like you, my default opinion, which is ALWAYS subject to change depending on circumstances and new information, is that you project your own way of thinking onto others. And if you are a miserable person willing to compromise whatever bit of morality you have left for personal gain, you will assume everyone else is thinking the same way. If you are decent, and treat others with decency, your world view will reflect it. And you will realize that demonizing millions of people is foolish, short-sighted, and ultimately extremely destructive; not only for your own well-being, but for society at large.

Everything you said is wrong.  You really don't understand how authoritarianism works and how it takes hold.  It does not require that all those people are evil, it only requires that they all live in fear. There are a few brave souls who raise their voice as whistleblowers who point out the mass corruption, but they all suffer reprisals and get demoted or lose their job or suffer criminal prosecution.  The legal protections for whistleblowers are mere lip service and has no meat.

Authoritarian states are the norm throughout history, and America was a rare exception which broke the mold.  Freedom is a delicate gift which has been under assault for decades.  

When I encounter people like you, I find them extremely arrogant and at the same time extremely naive.  I am not projecting anything even remotely about myself.  It is all based on history, human behavior and seeing what is actually happening today.  All my criticisms are fact-based assessment of the abuses and the lack of accountability in our Executive Branch of government.  I understand the basis of good government and understand how our system is being exploited by clever people who have found loopholes to attack our freedom.   I have decades of experience inside that mess.

Those one percenters who rise to the top tend to be extremely greedy and ruthless and believe they are superior beings who should be in power.  That is why the natural state for civilizations is authoritarianism.   Our Founding created a system of government to protect our freedoms.  But the executive branch has grown in size and power and operates largely in secrecy which has eliminated the checks and balances which are supposed to keep them honest. 

What I say is not any great conspiracy theory, it is historical fact which we are simply repeating.  Unfortunately most people like you will remain ignorant and we will once again revert into being servants to our masters.  I have nothing to gain personally by what I say.  In fact stating the truth is not a healthy position to publicly take.  

[RLLD 4,143]

 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,832]

On 9/12/2023 at 2:16 PM, RLLD said:

 

THat sums up today's American Left.  Clueless and easily led.