Dozer FBG 325 Posted January 10, 2024 And again, here is the National Guard Timeline for J6. JOINT FORCE HEADQUARTERS MEMORANDUM FOR RECORD SUBJECT: Civil Unrest on 6 January 2021 timeline of events for National Guard Activation 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raven Fan 362 Posted January 10, 2024 22 minutes ago, Dozer FBG said: And again, here is the National Guard Timeline for J6. JOINT FORCE HEADQUARTERS MEMORANDUM FOR RECORD SUBJECT: Civil Unrest on 6 January 2021 timeline of events for National Guard Activation You're doing god's work in here Dozer. Thing is the cultist simply do not care. They could come home and find Trump banging their boyfriend/husband and they'd just pull up a chair and watch. Nothing but cucks. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,273 Posted January 10, 2024 38 minutes ago, Dozer FBG said: And again, here is the National Guard Timeline for J6. JOINT FORCE HEADQUARTERS MEMORANDUM FOR RECORD SUBJECT: Civil Unrest on 6 January 2021 timeline of events for National Guard Activation So the NG was close by on stand by. Now who did that? Thanks for proving my point. I owe you one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dozer FBG 325 Posted January 10, 2024 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: So the NG was close by on stand by. Now who did that? Thanks for proving my point. I owe you one. Why do you think it took so long for the Sec Def to approve? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,198 Posted January 10, 2024 54 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Wow. You don’t know what you’re talking about. The NG can’t be sent in without a request from a governor or the highest ranking official in a non state. Trump had the NG staged and ready to go. You didn’t know that? How the hell do you think they got there so fast? Not in DC, genius. This authority to activate the D.C. National Guard has been delegated, by the President, to the Secretary of Defense and further delegated to the Secretary of the Army. The D.C. National Guard is the only National Guard unit, out of all of the 54 states and territories, which reports only to the President Wow. You don't know what you're talking about. Spray your condescension in another direction. You don't have half the answers you think you do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,198 Posted January 10, 2024 15 minutes ago, Dozer FBG said: Why do you think it took so long for the Sec Def to approve? PELOSI!!1!!11! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,094 Posted January 10, 2024 18 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: So the NG was close by on stand by. Now who did that? Thanks for proving my point. I owe you one. Perspective from Colonel Earl Matthews: “Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark A. Milley was the black hand operating outside his legal authority to delay the District of Columbia National Guard from responding the protests that day” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,273 Posted January 10, 2024 1 minute ago, Fnord said: Not in DC, genius. This authority to activate the D.C. National Guard has been delegated, by the President, to the Secretary of Defense and further delegated to the Secretary of the Army. The D.C. National Guard is the only National Guard unit, out of all of the 54 states and 3 minutes ago, Fnord said: Not in DC, genius. This authority to activate the D.C. National Guard has been delegated, by the President, to the Secretary of Defense and further delegated to the Secretary of the Army. The D.C. National Guard is the only National Guard unit, out of all of the 54 states and territories, which reports only to the President Wow. You don't know what you're talking about. Spray your condescension in another direction. You don't have half the answers you think you do. Activate territories, which reports only to the President Wow. You don't know what you're talking about. Spray your condescension in another direction. You don't have half the answers you think you do. Activate and deploy are two different things. HTH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,198 Posted January 10, 2024 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Activate and deploy are two different things. HTH. Where does "report to" fall in your disingenuous hair splitting? Stop digging. You're already underground. Why is it so hard for people, especially MAGAMOOKS, to admit when they're wrong? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,273 Posted January 10, 2024 6 minutes ago, Fnord said: Where does "report to" fall in your disingenuous hair splitting? Stop digging. You're already underground. Why is it so hard for people, especially MAGAMOOKS, to admit when they're wrong? Sorry you don’t know the difference and are basing everything off of one page of info that is incomplete. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,198 Posted January 10, 2024 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Sorry you don’t know the difference and are basing everything off of one page of info that is incomplete. Info lifted straight from the National Guard website? Sorry you can't just let it go when you've been pwned. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,281 Posted January 10, 2024 10 hours ago, RLLD said: I am mildly surprised he has not been Epsteined..... Really? He's a cog of the machine. Who would Epstein him? He got a nice show trial to make sure there's no double jeopardy in the future. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,129 Posted January 10, 2024 1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Trump got more black votes in 2020 than he did in 2016. Biden just got them in all the right places. And the percentage of Trump black votes both times? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,121 Posted January 11, 2024 10 hours ago, Dizkneelande said: Seems weird he’s the only J6’r the left and corporate media defend Not defending him other than this tinhat idea that he Is a Fed that all the loons buy into Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,425 Posted January 11, 2024 4 hours ago, Dozer FBG said: And again, here is the National Guard Timeline for J6. JOINT FORCE HEADQUARTERS MEMORANDUM FOR RECORD SUBJECT: Civil Unrest on 6 January 2021 timeline of events for National Guard Activation Who is talking about the timeliness for that day? National Gaurd support was discussed in the days leading up to January 6th because of intelligence which suggested there might be trouble. Top Capitol Police leadership and Pelosi rebuked those concerns and gave the excuse about 'bad optics'. What happened the day of it was already too late. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,198 Posted January 11, 2024 15 hours ago, jonmx said: Who is talking about the timeliness for that day? National Gaurd support was discussed in the days leading up to January 6th because of intelligence which suggested there might be trouble. Top Capitol Police leadership and Pelosi rebuked those concerns and gave the excuse about 'bad optics'. What happened the day of it was already too late. PELOSI HAD NO AUTHORITY OVER THE NATIONAL GUARD! How many f'n times do you need to be shown that before it sinks in? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,425 Posted January 11, 2024 3 minutes ago, Fnord said: PELOSI HAD NO AUTHORITY OVER THE NATIONAL GUARD! How many f'n times do you need to be shown that before it sinks in? Do you understand how this works. People must request or accept the National Gaurd support, only then can Trump send them. Trump can not unilaterally send in the troops unless he has a request or approval of those in charge of that jurisdiction. The same thing happened with Bush during Katrina, the Louisiana governor refused so Bush could not send. Capitol Police and Pelosi were both informed of potential danger and leadership over ruled because it would somehow look bad. They knew exactly the danger and they did not heighten security in anyway or request outside help from the Gaurd. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,198 Posted January 11, 2024 5 minutes ago, jonmx said: Do you understand how this works. People must request or accept the National Gaurd support, only then can Trump send them. Trump can not unilaterally send in the troops unless he has a request or approval of those in charge of that jurisdiction. The same thing happened with Bush during Katrina, the Louisiana governor refused so Bush could not send. Capitol Police and Pelosi were both informed of potential danger and leadership over ruled because it would somehow look bad. They knew exactly the danger and they did not heighten security in anyway or request outside help from the Gaurd. This is not the case in DC. POTUS and SECDEF are the ones that have authority there. There are multiple links that have been provided clarifying this, including the NG website. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dozer FBG 325 Posted January 11, 2024 The House sergeant-at-arms, does report to Pelosi. Just like the Senate sergeant-at-arms, reports to the leading Republican member of the Senate, Mitch McConnell. But the is no indication ANYWHERE that Pelosi or McConnell prevented either SAA from requesting NG assistance. This is just another lie, started by McArthy and propagated by Fox News and other lying liars… like Jon. Steven A. Sund, then-U.S. Capitol Police chief, Paul D. Irving, then-House sergeant-at-arms, and Michael C. Stenger, then-Senate sergeant-at-arms, have all testified about the events of Jan. 6, and none of them insinuated that they were prevented from calling the National Guard by congressional leadership. Washington D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser also requested for the National Guard to be called in during the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol. ALL THESE REQUESTS were denied by the pentagon. Not freaking all-super-powerful Nancy Pelosi. The chain of command at the pentagon goes like this: The Commanding General of the D.C. National Guard is subordinate solely to the President of the United States. This authority to activate the D.C. National Guard has been delegated, by the President, to the Secretary of Defense and further delegated to the Secretary of the Army. I mean, to put this on Pelosi is simply an embarrassingly weak distraction to keep from exposing the incompetence and corruption of Trump and his goofball administration. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,094 Posted January 11, 2024 3 hours ago, jonmx said: Do you understand how this works. People must request or accept the National Gaurd support, only then can Trump send them. Trump can not unilaterally send in the troops unless he has a request or approval of those in charge of that jurisdiction. The same thing happened with Bush during Katrina, the Louisiana governor refused so Bush could not send. Capitol Police and Pelosi were both informed of potential danger and leadership over ruled because it would somehow look bad. They knew exactly the danger and they did not heighten security in anyway or request outside help from the Gaurd. Colonel Earl Matthews: “Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark A. Milley was the black hand operating outside his legal authority to delay the District of Columbia National Guard from responding the protests that day” Mayor Bowser January 5th letter - “To be clear, the District of Columbia is not requesting other federal law enforcement personnel and discourages any additional deployment without immediate notification to, and consultation with, MPD if such plans are underway.” https://x.com/mayorbowser/status/1346530358674792466?s=46&t=Fib7p2nPeGXuJiuDfFsfmA 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dozer FBG 325 Posted January 11, 2024 18 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said: Colonel Earl Matthews: “Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark A. Milley was the black hand operating outside his legal authority to delay the District of Columbia National Guard from responding the protests that day” Mayor Bowser January 5th letter - “To be clear, the District of Columbia is not requesting other federal law enforcement personnel and discourages any additional deployment without immediate notification to, and consultation with, MPD if such plans are underway.” https://x.com/mayorbowser/status/1346530358674792466?s=46&t=Fib7p2nPeGXuJiuDfFsfmA So what? She brought in some National Guard, thought it was enough, and she was wrong. Grossly and Incompetently wrong. Got it. The decision NOT to send in the National Guard… one of the most important decisions of the Trump presidency… was on the Commander in Chief. Trump failed to send the National Guard. Own it. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,198 Posted January 11, 2024 42 minutes ago, Dozer FBG said: So what? She brought in some National Guard, thought it was enough, and she was wrong. Grossly and Incompetently wrong. Got it. The decision NOT to send in the National Guard… one of the most important decisions of the Trump presidency… was on the Commander in Chief. Trump failed to send the National Guard. Own it. Irrefutable. To believe otherwise is to show one's ignorance, stupidity, poor information sources, and/or hyper partisanship. In many cases, all of them. See: @jonmx 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,425 Posted January 12, 2024 2 hours ago, Fnord said: Irrefutable. To believe otherwise is to show one's ignorance, stupidity, poor information sources, and/or hyper partisanship. In many cases, all of them. See: @jonmx JFC, the people with primary responsible for security of the Capitol does the 'investigation' and excuses themselves. Pathetic. Keep bootlicking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,129 Posted January 12, 2024 3 minutes ago, jonmx said: JFC, the people with primary responsible for security of the Capitol does the 'investigation' and excuses themselves. Pathetic. Keep bootlicking. So you think the FBI should have does this investigation? Oh, wait... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,425 Posted January 12, 2024 1 hour ago, squistion said: So you think the FBI should have does this investigation? Oh, wait... That would be the opposite of what I said. Pelosi, the fbi and the Capitol Police only role should have been testifying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,296 Posted January 12, 2024 Jonmx has convinced me. Give all the 1/6 rioters 25 to life! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,129 Posted January 12, 2024 9 minutes ago, jonmx said: That would be the opposite of what I said. Pelosi, the fbi and the Capitol Police only role should have been testifying. Who do you think should have investigated the conduct of the Capitol Police on Jan 6 besides officials in DC and the FBI? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,273 Posted January 12, 2024 Just now, squistion said: Who do you think should have investigated the conduct of the Capitol Police on Jan 6 besides officials in DC and the FBI? An independent special council. Good enough for the Russia Hoax, good enough for this. At least this really happened. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,129 Posted January 12, 2024 Just now, Hardcore troubadour said: An independent special council. Good enough for the Russia Hoax, good enough for this. At least this really happened. Like Jack Smith? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,273 Posted January 12, 2024 3 minutes ago, squistion said: Like Jack Smith? I said independent. Not a failed psycho that had his last political witch hunt case thrown out 9-0 by scotus. Go look it up. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,425 Posted January 12, 2024 6 minutes ago, squistion said: Like Jack Smith? Lol. Exactly what morons believe are idependant. No we do not want someone in stage IV TDS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,273 Posted January 12, 2024 Squishy is mad because he didn’t know about Obama having all those journalists arrested. The gals at the view didn’t tell him. Lol. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,129 Posted January 12, 2024 Just now, Hardcore troubadour said: I said independent. Not a failed psycho that had his last political witch hunt case thrown out 9-0 by scotus. Go look it up. That was just one case. And he was a prosecutor at The Hague among other things: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Smith_(lawyer) John Luman Smith (born June 5, 1969) is an American attorney who has served in the United States Department of Justice as an assistant U.S. attorney, acting U.S. attorney, and head of the department's Public Integrity Section. He was also the chief prosecutor at the Kosovo Specialist Chambers, an international tribunal at The Hague tasked with investigating and prosecuting war crimes in the Kosovo War. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,273 Posted January 12, 2024 23 minutes ago, squistion said: That was just one case. And he was a prosecutor at The Hague among other things: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Smith_(lawyer) John Luman Smith (born June 5, 1969) is an American attorney who has served in the United States Department of Justice as an assistant U.S. attorney, acting U.S. attorney, and head of the department's Public Integrity Section. He was also the chief prosecutor at the Kosovo Specialist Chambers, an international tribunal at The Hague tasked with investigating and prosecuting war crimes in the Kosovo War. Pretty big case. Scotus rarely even takes those types of cases. And to have it tossed 8-0? Oooof. He’s a crackpot. That’s why he was picked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,273 Posted January 12, 2024 More like Smith got exiled to the Hauge after his embarrassment in front of scotus. The Clintons hooked him up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,129 Posted January 12, 2024 Just now, Hardcore troubadour said: Pretty big case. Scotus rarely even takes those types of cases. And to have it tossed 9-0? Oooof. He’s a crackpot. That’s why he was picked. A "crackpot" who is well respected as a prosecutor and will nail Trump's posterior to the wall. It will be a prosecution and conviction that will be studied in law schools for the next hundred years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,425 Posted January 12, 2024 2 minutes ago, squistion said: A "crackpot" who is well respected as a prosecutor and will nail Trump's posterior to the wall. It will be a prosecution and conviction that will be studied in law schools for the next hundred years. Effing retard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,273 Posted January 12, 2024 3 minutes ago, squistion said: A "crackpot" who is well respected as a prosecutor and will nail Trump's posterior to the wall. It will be a prosecution and conviction that will be studied in law schools for the next hundred years. He prosecuted Menendez. Lost, and that guy is dirty as Fock. Prosecuted John Edwards. Lost. In the scotus case, he was strongly rebuked by scotus. Yeah, he’s respected. He’s an attack dog for his masters. But not a very good one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,129 Posted January 12, 2024 Just now, jonmx said: Effing retard. So eloquent. Do you have your own blog? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites