Belichick expected to end up in Atlanta

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Just now, Voltaire said:

I think so too. It doesn't seem to me to be a very appealing job. Sam Howell gets sacked more than any other QB because they have no O-Line. Interesting that Vrable and/or Belichick will be left standing when the game of musical chairs ends.

They have the #2 pick which could help him get a franchise QB.   It is uphill from there.  New ownership..all of it.  Great time to come in I think

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The bigger bummer is now that most of the spots are filled, the Lions get Aaron Glenn back.  Yuck

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The Seahawks and Commanders are certainly drafting their future QBs. So where does that leave Bellichek? 

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39 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

The Seahawks and Commanders are certainly drafting their future QBs. So where does that leave Bellichek? 

Take a year off then return to the Giants. The job he always wanted.  

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On 1/20/2024 at 10:45 AM, IGotWorms said:

I’m not sure that’s true. Yes he is a legendary coach, but he’ll be 72 years old in April. I don’t believe any coach has ever been hired by an nfl team after 70 and those that coached past 70 did not do well (including Belichick himself). I don’t think there’s a lot of clamor to hire any 72 year old coach 

How old were Vermeil, Bud Grant, and Marv Levy when they stepped aside?  How about Paul Brown and Papa Bear George Halas.  Could Mike Shanahan still do it?

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12 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Take a year off then return to the Giants. The job he always wanted.  

I think Daniel Jones is better than most give him credit for. It's not crazy 

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Just now, Maximum Overkill said:

I think Daniel Jones is better than most give him credit for. It's not crazy 

Even if that’s true, the surrounding cast  ain’t much.  Still don’t have an alpha WR, gonna lose their only weapon or overpay, for Barkley. It’s not good. There is no one on that offense besides Barkley the other team is worried about. Waller rarely plays. W Robinson is nice but he’s an underneath possession wr. Good on the yac though. 

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35 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

the surrounding cast  ain’t much

That's the problem in it's entirety. I doubt any QB could thrive in that environment. 

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1 minute ago, Maximum Overkill said:

That's the problem in it's entirety. I doubt any QB could thrive in that environment. 

Well, I tend to agree, but journeyman Tyrod Taylor did a better job throwing the ball. D Jones has unfortunately regressed. He, like so many others became dependent on his legs. His passing was better three years ago. 

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2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Even if that’s true, the surrounding cast  ain’t much.  Still don’t have an alpha WR, gonna lose their only weapon or overpay, for Barkley. It’s not good. There is no one on that offense besides Barkley the other team is worried about. Waller rarely plays. W Robinson is nice but he’s an underneath possession wr. Good on the yac though. 

It's not true and that dude loves to take sacks, He needs to find a way to scramble and Kenny Pickett is like him as well.

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On 1/20/2024 at 7:21 PM, kilroy69 said:

Man I am not so sure. Wilson was not the problem in denver. he is a capable qb still and atl is a good team. Arthur smith is a terrible coach that is one of those "smarter than you " people who instead of doing the normal thing does something no one ever expected...that results in a 2 yard loss. 

Wilson is done... has been since getting married.  Football isn't even a concern for him, his wife's life/future is.   THAT's the reason he's not in Denver anymore.  He doesn't care and football isn't his priority.  His wife is fighting his battles for him.  He just wants to be paid based on what he did 5 years ago.  He'll never QB a team into the playoffs again.

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6 hours ago, supermike80 said:

They have the #2 pick which could help him get a franchise QB.   It is uphill from there.  New ownership..all of it.  Great time to come in I think

I think Howell is a decent QB.  If I'm Washington, I'd trade down and try to get a king's ransom for that pick and use the extra picks to fix the OLine and defense.

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8 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

I think Howell is a decent QB.  If I'm Washington, I'd trade down and try to get a king's ransom for that pick and use the extra picks to fix the OLine and defense.

I like Howell as well but not that much. They're within striking distance of a QB. I think they need to take a shot there and I think that's what they'll ultimately do. 

Howell is still very young and under Team control. It wouldn't be the worst thing to have 2 young QBs battling it out. They can always trade one down the road. 

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You people who claim to know the NFL, thought there would be a market for the worst GM in football the past 10 years and a guy who the game has clearly passed him by? Sorry Bilicheat, billionaire owners have eyes

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59 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

I like Howell as well but not that much. They're within striking distance of a QB. I think they need to take a shot there and I think that's what they'll ultimately do. 

Howell is still very young and under Team control. It wouldn't be the worst thing to have 2 young QBs battling it out. They can always trade one down the road. 

I understand the strategy, but I think that if the Redskins draft a QB, they're going to destroy Howell's value.  I think the best they could hope for is a conditional draft pick that could max at a 4th round pick, but likely be a 5th or a 6th.  I just think that they have SO MANY holes that need to be filled, that drafting a QB would be like putting brand new tires on a 20 year old car with 250k miles.  There's 2 WR's and 2 OT's projected to fall in the top 7, both can greatly help Washington more than a QB.

I see Howell kind of like Mayfield, he's a stop gap QB, not a long term solution.  The difference is that Tampa has a solid team just need a few pieces, one being a QB where as Washington needs a lot of work.  Address the areas of true need and get your QB later.  Who knows, upgrading the line and maybe adding a top tier WR may be enough on offense.

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On 1/26/2024 at 3:45 PM, TBayXXXVII said:

see Howell kind of like Mayfield, he's a stop gap QB, not a long term solution.  

It's funny, a buddy and I were just discussing that. They are so similar, I actually like Howell's game better, it's just that he's so raw and undisciplined. If a coach ever unlocks him he'll be the franchise QB they need. Unfortunately that's a big if. 

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He and Saban were pretty good from the little bits I heard.