weepaws 2,460 Posted March 28 Sues Ohio over Law banning sex-change surgeries for minors, men in woman’s sports. What is wrong will be right, and right will be wrong, it’s in the Bible, and it’s showing up in n society. They say it harms transgender children, but I guess the surgeries don’t Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 896 Posted March 28 33 minutes ago, weepaws said: Sues Ohio over Law banning sex-change surgeries for minors, men in woman’s sports. What is wrong will be right, and right will be wrong, it’s in the Bible, and it’s showing up in n society. They say it harms transgender children, but I guess the surgeries don’t That is incorrect. The suit is not about sex-change surgeries for minors. It is about denying gender affirming care to minors which is not the same thing. From the ACLU website. https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/ohio-families-file-lawsuit-challenging-ban-on-gender-affirming-healthcare-for-transgender-youth#:~:text=COLUMBUS- Today%2C the American Civil,medical care for transgender minors. Ohio Families File Lawsuit Challenging Ban on Gender-Affirming Healthcare for Transgender Youth COLUMBUS- Today, the American Civil Liberties Union, the ACLU of Ohio, and the global law firm Goodwin filed a lawsuit challenging the unconstitutional enactment of House Bill 68, and specifically, a discriminatory provision in H.B. 68 that bans gender-affirming medical care for transgender minors. The organizations filed this lawsuit in the Franklin County Court of Common Pleas on behalf of two families whose children are at risk of losing critical, medically necessary healthcare. The lawsuit asks the court to strike down H.B. 68 before the law is set to take effect on April 24, 2024. House Bill 68 violates four sections of the Ohio Constitution including the single-subject rule, the Health Care provision, the Equal Protection Clause, and the Due Course of Law provision. “The ban on gender-affirming care will cause severe harm to transgender youth. These personal, private medical decisions should remain between families and doctors; they don’t belong to politicians. H.B. 68 violates the Ohio Constitution in multiple ways. We will fight in court to ensure that trans youth and their parents can access critically important, lifesaving healthcare without government intrusion,” said Freda Levenson, Legal Director at the ACLU of Ohio. “We refuse to allow lawmakers to move forward with these cruel restrictions that directly harm transgender young people. Families are now confronted with the extremely difficult decision of fleeing the state they call home to protect their children or allowing them to go without the care they and their doctors know is right for them. H.B. 68 is government overreach point blank, and we are determined to reinstate Ohio families’ right to make personal medical decisions with healthcare providers – not politicians,” added Chase Strangio, Deputy Director for Transgender Justice at the ACLU. “HB 68’s restrictions on medical care for the transgender youth community not only defy medical consensus and expert judgment but eliminates a parent or caregiver’s fundamental right to make critical, informed healthcare decisions for them. Goodwin is proud to support the ACLU on this vital matter,” said Allison DeLaurentis and Miranda Hooker, partners in Goodwin’s Complex Litigation & Dispute Resolution practice. [...] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 5,206 Posted March 28 2 minutes ago, squistion said: That is incorrect. The suit is not about sex-change surgeries for minors. It is about denying gender affirming care to minors which is not the same thing. From the ACLU website. https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/ohio-families-file-lawsuit-challenging-ban-on-gender-affirming-healthcare-for-transgender-youth#:~:text=COLUMBUS- Today%2C the American Civil,medical care for transgender minors. Ohio Families File Lawsuit Challenging Ban on Gender-Affirming Healthcare for Transgender Youth COLUMBUS- Today, the American Civil Liberties Union, the ACLU of Ohio, and the global law firm Goodwin filed a lawsuit challenging the unconstitutional enactment of House Bill 68, and specifically, a discriminatory provision in H.B. 68 that bans gender-affirming medical care for transgender minors. The organizations filed this lawsuit in the Franklin County Court of Common Pleas on behalf of two families whose children are at risk of losing critical, medically necessary healthcare. The lawsuit asks the court to strike down H.B. 68 before the law is set to take effect on April 24, 2024. House Bill 68 violates four sections of the Ohio Constitution including the single-subject rule, the Health Care provision, the Equal Protection Clause, and the Due Course of Law provision. “The ban on gender-affirming care will cause severe harm to transgender youth. These personal, private medical decisions should remain between families and doctors; they don’t belong to politicians. H.B. 68 violates the Ohio Constitution in multiple ways. We will fight in court to ensure that trans youth and their parents can access critically important, lifesaving healthcare without government intrusion,” said Freda Levenson, Legal Director at the ACLU of Ohio. “We refuse to allow lawmakers to move forward with these cruel restrictions that directly harm transgender young people. Families are now confronted with the extremely difficult decision of fleeing the state they call home to protect their children or allowing them to go without the care they and their doctors know is right for them. H.B. 68 is government overreach point blank, and we are determined to reinstate Ohio families’ right to make personal medical decisions with healthcare providers – not politicians,” added Chase Strangio, Deputy Director for Transgender Justice at the ACLU. “HB 68’s restrictions on medical care for the transgender youth community not only defy medical consensus and expert judgment but eliminates a parent or caregiver’s fundamental right to make critical, informed healthcare decisions for them. Goodwin is proud to support the ACLU on this vital matter,” said Allison DeLaurentis and Miranda Hooker, partners in Goodwin’s Complex Litigation & Dispute Resolution practice. [...] Is "sex change surgeries" part of the "gender-affirming medical care" which is banned? If so, I'd say that weepaws was accurate, and in fact he left out other critical travesties like hormone therapy for minors. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 1,879 Posted March 28 How the fock can liberals keep standing up for the shlt? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 5,206 Posted March 28 Just now, seafoam1 said: How the fock can liberals keep standing up for the shlt? I've explained it: progressives will not stop until trans people are considered the other sex, period, full stop, no restrictions or consideration for their long-term health or the well-being of others. If you wake up tomorrow and feel trans, you are trans. Get with the program, comrade. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
easilyscan 559 Posted March 28 I've only agreed with the ACLU once in my life. The time they fought against sobriety checkpoints in my state & they did away with them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 896 Posted March 28 1 hour ago, jerryskids said: Is "sex change surgeries" part of the "gender-affirming medical care" which is banned? If so, I'd say that weepaws was accurate, and in fact he left out other critical travesties like hormone therapy for minors. The ACLU is opposing this bill because it is banning gender-affirming care, which is not the same thing as sex change surgeries. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonnyutah 122 Posted March 29 3 hours ago, squistion said: The ACLU is opposing this bill because it is banning gender-affirming care, which is not the same thing as sex change surgeries. So just chemical castration, not snipping? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,585 Posted March 29 5 hours ago, squistion said: The ACLU is opposing this bill because it is banning gender-affirming care, which is not the same thing as sex change surgeries. Gender affirming care should be banned 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 1,592 Posted March 29 12 hours ago, squistion said: COLUMBUS- Today, the American Civil Liberties Union, the ACLU of Ohio, and the global law firm Goodwin filed a lawsuit challenging the unconstitutional enactment of House Bill 68, and specifically, a discriminatory provision in H.B. 68 that bans gender-affirming medical care for transgender minors. The organizations filed this lawsuit in the Franklin County Court of Common Pleas on behalf of two families whose children are at risk of losing critical, medically necessary healthcare. . No sane compassionate human being can claim a child's self-disgnosis of an extemely rare and complex mental condition should be rubber-stamped and immediately processed into life-altering treatment which permentsntly damages their ability to reproduce and ever function as healthy male or female adults. Any doctor who lies and calls gender affirming care for children critical, medically necessary health care and practices such voodoo medicine should be found guilty of mutilation of children and put in prison for life. Go fuk yourself. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 5,206 Posted March 29 16 hours ago, squistion said: The ACLU is opposing this bill because it is banning gender-affirming care, which is not the same thing as sex change surgeries. You already said that, dummy. Your quote said "gender affirming MEDICAL care." Now, re-read my question and answer it with a relevant response. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 896 Posted March 29 10 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: Gender affirming care should be banned Fortunately, most psychologists and psychiatrists would disagree with you on that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,585 Posted March 29 1 minute ago, squistion said: Fortunately, most psychologists and psychiatrists would disagree with you on that. yes those who's entire career is based on John Money's philosophy its like saying all the climate scientists agree with climate change, of course they do 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,482 Posted March 29 1 hour ago, squistion said: Fortunately, most psychologists and psychiatrists would disagree with you on that. If the psychologists and psychiatrists support things like this, maybe they should seek mental help for themselves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 5,206 Posted March 29 47 minutes ago, lickin_starfish said: If the psychologists and psychiatrists support things like this, maybe they should seek mental help for themselves. This couldn't possibly harm the baby, I presume. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 896 Posted March 29 48 minutes ago, lickin_starfish said: If the psychologists and psychiatrists support things like this, maybe they should seek mental help for themselves. Who says they all support things like this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,585 Posted March 29 21 minutes ago, squistion said: Who says they all support things like this? its part of gender affirming care, thats a term that wraps up all the nonsense you know europe banned puberty blockers, you know estrogen in men is the biggest factor in cancer. Those are "gender affirming" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 896 Posted March 29 1 hour ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: its part of gender affirming care, thats a term that wraps up all the nonsense you know europe banned puberty blockers, you know estrogen in men is the biggest factor in cancer. Those are "gender affirming" No, male breast feeding is not gender affirming care. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,585 Posted March 29 Just now, squistion said: No, male breast feeding is not gender affirming care. It all fits in the same category. Pumping men full of hormones and estrogen cause they want to pretend they are women. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 1,592 Posted March 29 5 hours ago, squistion said: Fortunately, most psychologists and psychiatrists would disagree with you on that. And everyone of those idiot quacks should have their license revoked immediately. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 2,520 Posted March 29 5 hours ago, squistion said: Fortunately, most psychologists and psychiatrists would disagree with you on that. That's not true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 1,592 Posted March 29 4 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: That's not true. Privately, it is not true. But publicly they must bow down to the radically lgbtqrst extremist agenda or have their career destroyed. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 896 Posted March 29 2 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: It all fits in the same category. Pumping men full of hormones and estrogen cause they want to pretend they are women. Sorry it doesn't, it is not considered gender affirming care. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,585 Posted March 30 1 hour ago, squistion said: Sorry it doesn't, it is not considered gender affirming care. ok so were in the its not widespread phase Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
