RaiderHaters Revenge 3,643 Posted May 13 democracy is on the ballot you must vote for us or else Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 767 Posted May 13 Just now, RaiderHaters Revenge said: you must vote for us or else Isn't this Trump's message? Vote for me or you won't have a country anymore, vote for me or the market will crash, vote for me or they will change the names of states... He's always threatening people to vote for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,643 Posted May 13 1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said: Isn't this Trump's message? Vote for me or you won't have a country anymore, vote for me or the market will crash, vote for me or they will change the names of states... He's always threatening people to vote for him. uh huh, sure ive never heard trump say democracy is on the ballot fascist dictatorship is your teams ploy, yet you vote for them and bend the knee every step of the way lock us down jab us harder daddy we will do as we are told tool Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 2,649 Posted May 13 2 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: uh huh, sure ive never heard trump say democracy is on the ballot fascist dictatorship is your teams ploy, yet you vote for them and bend the knee every step of the way lock us down jab us harder daddy we will do as we are told tool FACT. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 767 Posted May 13 3 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: uh huh, sure ive never heard trump say democracy is on the ballot fascist dictatorship is your teams ploy, yet you vote for them and bend the knee every step of the way lock us down jab us harder daddy we will do as we are told tool Tell us again about human meat in Big macs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 3,127 Posted May 13 8 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: democracy is on the ballot you must vote for us or else I think it’s on the ballot yes. I take Trump’s words seriously. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,643 Posted May 13 Just now, Ron_Artest said: Tell us again about human meat in Big macs yep sue me I saw a story shared it and asked, did I say that was the case, nope try again idiots like you will vote for gavin newsoulini who just said naw voters shouldn't get to vote on tax increases cause they dont understand we need more money to fund govt scams Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,643 Posted May 13 Just now, The Real timschochet said: I think it’s on the ballot yes. I take Trump’s words seriously. wrong, trump wins, in 4 years you can vote for someone else its the same sh1t you guys do, cant run on policy so make up sh1t to scare voters keep voting for racist retard gonna put ya all back in chains child molestor biden Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 3,127 Posted May 13 I think Trump would have set up an autocratic dictatorship last time around except that he was surrounded by human guardrails: John Kelly, General Mattis, even to some extent Bill Barr, even to some extent Mike Pence, etc. This time they’re all gone. He’ll be surrounded by yes men. 2 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 3,127 Posted May 13 2 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: wrong, trump wins, in 4 years you can vote for someone else If that happens I will be very happy. It will mean that I was totally wrong, or that Trump tried and failed. Either way that will be a good day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,643 Posted May 13 Just now, The Real timschochet said: If that happens I will be very happy. It will mean that I was totally wrong, or that Trump tried and failed. Either way that will be a good day. so you really think if Trump wins hes gonna declare himself a dictator and we will never have an election? you should seek help Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 767 Posted May 13 5 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: wrong, trump wins, in 4 years you can vote for someone else its the same sh1t you guys do, cant run on policy so make up sh1t to scare voters keep voting for racist retard gonna put ya all back in chains child molestor biden You're supporting the king of scaring voters. Have you listened to your boy? Everything is fear. Vote for me or it will be the last election, your country will be gone, economy crash, murders, etc. It's all fear. That's all Trump does. Fock man talk about having your head in your arse. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,643 Posted May 13 3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: I think Trump would have set up an autocratic dictatorship last time around except that he was surrounded by human guardrails: John Kelly, General Mattis, even to some extent Bill Barr, even to some extent Mike Pence, etc. This time they’re all gone. He’ll be surrounded by yes men. cause the president can just do that? hmm ok. you have serious delusion meanwhile youve been dictated by decades and ignore it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,643 Posted May 13 2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: You're supporting the king of scaring voters. Have you listened to your boy? Everything is fear. Vote for me or it will be the last election, your country will be gone, economy crash, murders, etc. It's all fear. That's all Trump does. Fock man talk about having your head in your arse. hes not my boy, therefore I don't listen him I see whats going on in THIS country in live time and no it sucks because of this administration I also know everything was better from 2017-2019, no new wars, lower taxes, lower cost of living, higher standard of living, stronger border, its a shame fauci funded the china virus thats all, those are what I care about democrats fail at every one of the above mentioned 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 767 Posted May 13 1 minute ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: so you really think if Trump wins hes gonna declare himself a dictator and we will never have an election? you should seek help He already tried this once you dope. Mike Pence refused to do it. Then his mob showed up saying they will drag Mike Pence through the streets for treason. Pence is gone, and every one surrounding Trump now says they would not have certified the election. So the next time, Trump will be able to do what he tried once and failed. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 767 Posted May 13 1 minute ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: hes not my boy, therefore I don't listen him I see whats going on in THIS country in live time and no it sucks because of this administration I also know everything was better from 2017-2019, no new wars, lower taxes, lower cost of living, higher standard of living, stronger border thats all, those are what I care about democrats fail at every one of the above mentioned Well you're voting for him so he's your boy. Taxes did not go up. All you got is a lower cpi from 2017-2019, and there is nothing Trump can do about it if he wins again. FACTS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,643 Posted May 13 Just now, Ron_Artest said: He already tried this once you dope. Mike Pence refused to do it. Then his mob showed up saying they will drag Mike Pence through the streets for treason. Pence is gone, and every one surrounding Trump now says they would not have certified the election. So the next time, Trump will be able to do what he tried once and failed. he did, he tried to make himself a dictator, or did he try to challenge the results until the legal hearings were resolved you know, you are allowed to do that right? Dems did it in 2016 so according to you trump is gonna win in 2024, and then not certify the election in 2028 when he wont even be running god damn you guys are cultist sheep 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,643 Posted May 13 3 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Well you're voting for him so he's your boy. Taxes did not go up. All you got is a lower cpi from 2017-2019, and there is nothing Trump can do about it if he wins again. FACTS. i got no wars, better border, lower cost of living and trump raised the base tax write off Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 767 Posted May 13 10 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: he did, he tried to make himself a dictator, or did he try to challenge the results until the legal hearings were resolved you know, you are allowed to do that right? Dems did it in 2016 so according to you trump is gonna win in 2024, and then not certify the election in 2028 when he wont even be running god damn you guys are cultist sheep The legal hearings were resolved, he tried to delay so he could stay in power, and he could do the same thing again if he's in power. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,643 Posted May 13 2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: The legal hearings were resolved, he tried to delay so he could stay in power, and he could do the same thing again if he's in power. k sure guy, no they weren't but ok Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 767 Posted May 13 4 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: k sure guy, no they weren't but ok So you think that Trump should have stayed in power until every lawsuit is resolved? You do understand that this means that democracy is gone at this point, right? Trump would still be in power today while he games the legal system. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,643 Posted May 13 2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: So you think that Trump should have stayed in power until every lawsuit is resolved? You do understand that this means that democracy is gone at this point, right? Trump would still be in power today while he games the legal system. no I actually think any challenges should have rushed investigations and congress/senate should act as power when in question I dont think any presidential decrees or EO's should be in place until resolution Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,500 Posted May 13 16 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: This may have turned out to be a slight exaggeration. 15 hours ago, BeachGuy23 said: Haha sure it did. Naturally cultist can’t count. LMFAO 1. It didn’t happen! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 767 Posted May 13 3 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: no I actually think any challenges should have rushed investigations and congress/senate should act as power when in question I dont think any presidential decrees or EO's should be in place until resolution So you're position is democracy is stalled, American is stalled, because one person isn't man enough to admit defeat. He should hold the entire country up while he fights in the court. That's fascism baby. Own it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,643 Posted May 13 Just now, Ron_Artest said: So you're position is democracy is stalled, American is stalled, because one person isn't man enough to admit defeat. He should hold the entire country up while he fights in the court. That's fascism baby. Own it. that is, using a legal system to resolve things is now fascism, why am I not surprised how is america stalled if there isn't a president, things stay status quo we have laws in place, we don't need to change them every 4 years, just follow the constitution and rule of law, stay out of wars, protect THIS country and call it a day, its not that difficult, but you act like the government is important, they aren't Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,538 Posted May 13 6 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: So you're position is democracy is stalled, American is stalled, because one person isn't man enough to admit defeat. He should hold the entire country up while he fights in the court. That's fascism baby. Own it. Incorrect, your misuse of the term is unfortunately congruent with the way many on the left like to misuse it; so perhaps we should not be surprised that you might try this. Facsim is about authoritarianism(such as paying off loans for elites to secure their support), nationalism, hierarchy and elitism(this is the you aint black stuff, and maga nonsense etc), and militarism(Democrats do love them some wars to enrich their military industrialists). Other aspects of fascism such as perception of decadence, anti-egalitarianism and totalitarianism. What we are observing with our system is still the antithesis of facism, though Democrats increasingly seem willing to embrace fascistic elements. I am a little surprised that Trump has been able to stand up to governmental corruption, notably in the legal sector. I did not expect he would really be able to do it....but then again I was not yet aware of the extreme corruption of the legal system in being weaponized for political means. They really over did it..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 767 Posted May 13 12 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: that is, using a legal system to resolve things is now fascism, why am I not surprised how is america stalled if there isn't a president, things stay status quo we have laws in place, we don't need to change them every 4 years, just follow the constitution and rule of law, stay out of wars, protect THIS country and call it a day, its not that difficult, but you act like the government is important, they aren't President isn't important, government isn't important... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,643 Posted May 13 1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said: President isn't important, government isn't important... nope not in the slightest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 767 Posted May 13 5 minutes ago, RLLD said: Incorrect, your misuse of the term is unfortunately congruent with the way many on the left like to misuse it; so perhaps we should not be surprised that you might try this. Facsim is about authoritarianism(such as paying off loans for elites to secure their support), nationalism, hierarchy and elitism(this is the you aint black stuff, and maga nonsense etc), and militarism(Democrats do love them some wars to enrich their military industrialists). Other aspects of fascism such as perception of decadence, anti-egalitarianism and totalitarianism. What we are observing with our system is still the antithesis of facism, though Democrats increasingly seem willing to embrace fascistic elements. I am a little surprised that Trump has been able to stand up to governmental corruption, notably in the legal sector. I did not expect he would really be able to do it....but then again I was not yet aware of the extreme corruption of the legal system in being weaponized for political means. They really over did it..... If the president in power is able to keep power despite the use of free and fair elections, by using the courts and military against the electorate, that's fascism. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,538 Posted May 13 Just now, Ron_Artest said: If the president in power is able to keep power despite the use of free and fair elections, by using the courts and military against the electorate, that's fascism. That might be true, luckily we have a system that ensures that wont happen, something perhaps underappreciated about us.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 767 Posted May 13 Just now, RLLD said: That might be true, luckily we have a system that ensures that wont happen, something perhaps underappreciated about us.... What system ensures that won't happen? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,643 Posted May 13 6 minutes ago, RLLD said: That might be true, luckily we have a system that ensures that wont happen, something perhaps underappreciated about us.... everything is fascist if the left doesn't like it its almost like they don't know we have 3 tiers of govt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 5,334 Posted May 13 1 hour ago, BeachGuy23 said: An existential threat is a threat to something's very existence—when the continued being of something is at stake or in danger. Here we go, I've posted and bolded where you claimed that culture change pushed by the Left is the most existential issue we face. I've then posted your very definition that an existential threat is a threat to something's very existence. This is exactly what I know the definition to be so I'm not sure where you think you have some childlike "gotcha", but because I'm a far bigger and better man than you I'll say that "gee I guess I don't understand how you're applying that term despite you clearly putting the only known definition out there." Now you have the words you wanted like the feminine dude that you are. Will you expand upon your original thought now or do you require some more feminine hoops for me to jump through? Freaking cultist...SMH 14 hours ago, BeachGuy23 said: Why would you classify the culture change as an existential issue? Surely you're aware that existential means a threat to human existence. Show your work boyo. I'm glad that I could educate you on the definition of existential, which was not your initial position, as seen here. Also, didn't your mother teach you how to apologize? Insulting the recipient of your apology does not typically make it effective. Nevertheless, my bar is quite low with you, so it will have to do. I will begin my discussion on the topic shortly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,538 Posted May 13 11 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: What system ensures that won't happen? The American system of government of course Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,538 Posted May 13 10 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: everything is fascist if the left doesn't like it its almost like they don't know we have 3 tiers of govt This is essentially correct. If the left does not like something they simply throw a negative label at it, instead of explaining themselves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 3,127 Posted May 13 OK so in my first post this morning I wrote that most conservatives don’t take the Trump as dictator threat seriously. That has been demonstrated here over the last few hours. I DO take it seriously. Maybe like @RaiderHaters Revenge says, I’m crazy. I hope I am. I hope we don’t get to find out. (though at this point in time Trump appears to be a favorite to win so I think we probably will.) If Trump wins and he doesn’t try to end our current system of government I will gladly show up here and tell Raider and all the others they were right: I will happily eat crow on that day. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,500 Posted May 13 fascism noun fas·cism ˈfa-ˌshi-zəm also ˈfa-ˌsi- often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 578 Posted May 13 13 minutes ago, jerryskids said: I'm glad that I could educate you on the definition of existential, which was not your initial position, as seen here. Also, didn't your mother teach you how to apologize? Insulting the recipient of your apology does not typically make it effective. Nevertheless, my bar is quite low with you, so it will have to do. I will begin my discussion on the topic shortly. I should have expected a simple salesperson to be very rigid and not be able to understand nuanced language and understand hyperbole. I look forward to hearing how the left's cultural stance is a threat to our country's very existence...LMFAO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 767 Posted May 13 13 minutes ago, RLLD said: The American system of government of course The same american system of government that Biden has corrupted for political purposes? This is the system that ensures that we can't be corrupted for political purposes? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 5,334 Posted May 13 2 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said: I should have expected a simple salesperson to be very rigid and not be able to understand nuanced language and understand hyperbole. I look forward to hearing how the left's cultural stance is a threat to our country's very existence...LMFAO Yes, because salespeople are very rigid and bean counting number crunchers are nuanced and flexible. I don't know why, but your lack of self awareness continues to amaze me. You would think I'd be used to it by now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
