The Real timschochet 6,765 Posted September 22, 2024 10 minutes ago, lickin_starfish said: Don’t you guys get tired of this argument? Nobody’s buying it. It means nothing at this point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,765 Posted September 22, 2024 6 hours ago, jonmx said: When Trump wins North Carolina by 4 to 8 points will you admit you are being lied to by the media you worship? 4-8 points? What are you smoking? Whoever wins NC it will be by 1-3 point. To answer your question no never. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,025 Posted September 22, 2024 2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: 4-8 points? What are you smoking? Whoever wins NC it will be by 1-3 point. To answer your question no never. You should bet on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,202 Posted September 22, 2024 Just now, The Real timschochet said: Don’t you guys get tired of this argument? Nobody’s buying it. It means nothing at this point. And you want to be technical, voters in the Democratic Party did select Kamala. Joe and her were both on the ballot in the primaries - and that is why the POTUS nominee and their running mate are both included, in case something happens to the nominee before or after the convention. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,765 Posted September 22, 2024 1 minute ago, seafoam1 said: You should bet on it. I’m betting on you repeating this line at least a dozen more times instead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,025 Posted September 22, 2024 Just now, The Real timschochet said: I’m betting on you repeating this line at least a dozen more times instead. Cool. Have fun. Now back to you betting on everything you say is going to happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,202 Posted September 22, 2024 4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: 4-8 points? What are you smoking? Whoever wins NC it will be by 1-3 point. To answer your question no never. Does jon seriously believe that all the polls are fake? I would hope not as that would mean he is delusional. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BrahmaBulls 764 Posted September 22, 2024 10 minutes ago, squistion said: And you want to be technical, voters in the Democratic Party did select Kamala. Joe and her were both on the ballot in the primaries - and that is why the POTUS nominee and their running mate are both included, in case something happens to the nominee before or after the convention. Okay, Corky Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,272 Posted September 22, 2024 6 hours ago, jonmx said: When Trump wins North Carolina by 4 to 8 points will you admit you are being lied to by the media you worship? Funny. When Trump loses, will you accept the defeat, or scream "FRAUD!" for the next 4 years? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,433 Posted September 22, 2024 15 minutes ago, Fnord said: Funny. When Trump loses, will you accept the defeat, or scream "FRAUD!" for the next 4 years? If Trump wins will you manage to hold back the tears this time? 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,429 Posted September 22, 2024 21 hours ago, seafoam1 said: Happy that you're happy to be a libtard cultist. Every response I see convinces me more and more they are all braindead retards who can not see hellish path their leaders are taking us down. - we don't want the NSA, CIA, FBI, or IRS able to electronically spy on us at their whim rubber stamped by some justice in their pocket. - we don't want mega corporations controlling all the information we recieve while answering to their government overlords. - we don't need to be fighting endless wars. - we don't want a media who operates as a mouthpiece for big government instead of a watchdog. It is effing pointless to have a discussion with these retards. They seriously can't think for themselves. They want to elected this biggest deepstate idiot puppet who has ever ran for office. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,429 Posted September 22, 2024 19 minutes ago, squistion said: $1,000,000 says Kamala does not win by 5 points. You can not be this effing stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,202 Posted September 22, 2024 Just now, jonmx said: $1,000,000 says Kamala does not win by 5 points. You can not be this effing stupid. She won't win the popular vote by 5 points? I think that is conceivable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,429 Posted September 22, 2024 37 minutes ago, Fnord said: Funny. When Trump loses, will you accept the defeat, or scream "FRAUD!" for the next 4 years? It depends. If there are counties like Mariposa which has printer errors in conservstive districts only and then takes a week to count the ballots, I am going to call bullcrap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,106 Posted September 22, 2024 3 minutes ago, jonmx said: $1,000,000 says Kamala does not win by 5 points. You can not be this effing stupid. Squiz is a propaganda wh0re. It's all he believes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,429 Posted September 22, 2024 6 minutes ago, squistion said: She won't win the popular vote by 5 points? I think that is conceivable. Because you are a frigging idiot. Trump is up by 2 to 3 points nationally in every honest poll which you retards dismiss. Trump is doing better with blacks, Hispanics, teamsters, and college age kids than he did 4 years ago, but somehow he has not gained ground. It is too dumb to believe. You are being lied to and manipulated, but you love it. Trump is also seen as far better on every major issue including immigration, the wars, employment and inflation by a large margin, but somehow Kamala winning? No effing way 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,765 Posted September 22, 2024 23 minutes ago, jonmx said: Because you are a frigging idiot. Trump is up by 2 to 3 points nationally in every honest poll which you retards dismiss. Trump is doing better with blacks, Hispanics, teamsters, and college age kids than he did 4 years ago, but somehow he has not gained ground. It is too dumb to believe. You are being lied to and manipulated, but you love it. Trump is also seen as far better on every major issue including immigration, the wars, employment and inflation by a large margin, but somehow Kamala winning? No effing way Almost every assertion here is wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted September 22, 2024 22 hours ago, jonmx said: The media is lying so badly on the polling. Kamala knows the truth. She is losing nationally. She is losing in PA. She is losing is MI and WI. She is losing in GA and AZ. All these early BS polls the elitist media hoists upon the public are lame attempts try to prop up the Democrat base. Unless Kamala can flip GA and PA, it is going to be an election bloodbath for Kamala. Kamala knows she needs a debate to win. Vladimir says what? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,429 Posted September 22, 2024 1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said: 4-8 points? What are you smoking? Whoever wins NC it will be by 1-3 point. To answer your question no never. The last part is very telling and expected from someone so invested in blindly trusting the media. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,429 Posted September 22, 2024 3 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: Vladimir says what? Russia, Russia, Russia....you are such a predictable retard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted September 22, 2024 15 hours ago, TrailGuy said: You're gaslighting. Jer Bear in a nutshell. He was a salesman and a lot of them think just straight up lying to your face is the way to success 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,025 Posted September 22, 2024 42 minutes ago, jonmx said: Every response I see convinces me more and more they are all braindead retards who can not see hellish path their leaders are taking us down. - we don't want the NSA, CIA, FBI, or IRS able to electronically spy on us at their whim rubber stamped by some justice in their pocket. - we don't want mega corporations controlling all the information we recieve while answering to their government overlords. - we don't need to be fighting endless wars. - we don't want a media who operates as a mouthpiece for big government instead of a watchdog. It is effing pointless to have a discussion with these retards. They seriously can't think for themselves. They want to elected this biggest deepstate idiot puppet who has ever ran for office. Amen to that. The liberal collective needs spoon feeding to survive. They are so focking weak. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted September 22, 2024 5 minutes ago, jonmx said: What? Exactly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,765 Posted September 22, 2024 10 minutes ago, jonmx said: The last part is very telling and expected from someone so invested in blindly trusting the media. If you accept the premise that the media is deliberately lying to you then that leads to rejecting ALL information you receive. If we can’t believe the media, how do we know Trump and Harris even exist? How do we know there’s an election? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,429 Posted September 22, 2024 19 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: If you accept the premise that the media is deliberately lying to you then that leads to rejecting ALL information you receive. If we can’t believe the media, how do we know Trump and Harris even exist? How do we know there’s an election? I accept all information, but unlike you I scrutinize it. When they tell us stupid things like gender is fluid or that kids need to be mandated untested vaccines for a virus which poses almost no danger to them or that or that Putin plans to invade France next....I call BS. You just nod along like a braindead cultist idiot. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,202 Posted September 22, 2024 3 minutes ago, jonmx said: I accept all information, but unlike you I scrutinize it. When they tell us stupid things like gender is fluid or that kids need to be mandated untested vaccines for a virus which poses almost no danger to them or that or that Putin plans to invade France next....I call BS. You just nod along like a braindead cultist idiot. No not France next. But Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania all have cause to be worried, given Russia's past and Putin's goal of reacquiring countries they invaded in the past. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,429 Posted September 22, 2024 49 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Almost every assertion here is wrong. Historically the most accurate unbiased polling in recent elections has been conducted by AtlasIntel. Here is their latest published results. Biden disapproval Rating: 55.9% Trump va. Harris: Trump +2.9% Issues: Israeli conflict: Trump +16% Immigration: Trump +17% Debt: Trump +14% China: Trump +15% Economy: Trump +14% Supreme Court: Trump +7% Ukraine: Trump +12% Safeguarding Democracy: Trump +4% Reproductive Rights" Harris +2% Environment: Harris +6% Fighting Corruption: Trump +9% Of course all you read is the authoritarian media which wants to see Trump murdered, so you are clueless about the existence of accurate unbiased polling. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,429 Posted September 22, 2024 20 minutes ago, squistion said: No not France next. But Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania all have cause to be worried, given Russia's past and Putin's goal of reacquiring countries they invaded in the past. Your dear leader has proclaimed all of Europe is in danger from Putin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,202 Posted September 22, 2024 Just now, jonmx said: Of course all you read is the authoritarian media which wants to see Trump murdered, so you are clueless about the existence of accurate unbiased polling. No, jon, no one in the media wants to see Trump murdered (although they would like to see him drop out as he's obviously suffering from dementia). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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EternalShinyAndChrome 4,106 Posted September 22, 2024 2 minutes ago, lickin_starfish said: https://media.scored.co/scale/XrLN32jgc5SfcXcF.jpeg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,765 Posted September 22, 2024 30 minutes ago, jonmx said: Historically the most accurate unbiased polling in recent elections has been conducted by AtlasIntel. Here is their latest published results. Biden disapproval Rating: 55.9% Trump va. Harris: Trump +2.9% Issues: Israeli conflict: Trump +16% Immigration: Trump +17% Debt: Trump +14% China: Trump +15% Economy: Trump +14% Supreme Court: Trump +7% Ukraine: Trump +12% Safeguarding Democracy: Trump +4% Reproductive Rights" Harris +2% Environment: Harris +6% Fighting Corruption: Trump +9% Of course all you read is the authoritarian media which wants to see Trump murdered, so you are clueless about the existence of accurate unbiased polling. I’ve never heard of AtlasIntel. But some of those numbers are absolutely ridiculous, like Supreme Court +7 for Trump. That alone tells me this is a bogus site. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,429 Posted September 22, 2024 21 minutes ago, squistion said: No, jon, no one in the media wants to see Trump murdered (although they would like to see him drop out as he's obviously suffering from dementia). There is polling which shows a third of Democrat voters wished the assassin did not miss. I have heard more than a few people outwardly admit this. It is a near perfect correlation between those progressive Democrats who view Republicans as racist, so it is almost a guarentee that your media darling Rachel Maddows is on team dead Trump. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,202 Posted September 22, 2024 Just now, jonmx said: There is polling which shows a third of Democrat voters wished the assassin did not miss. I have heard more than a few people outwardly admit this. It is a near perfect correlation between those progressive Democrats who view Republicans as racist, so it is almost a guarentee that your media darling Rachel Maddows is on team dead Trump. I seriously doubt that. I would like to see that poll, who did it and what exactly did they ask the respondents. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,429 Posted September 22, 2024 7 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: I’ve never heard of AtlasIntel. But some of those numbers are absolutely ridiculous, like Supreme Court +7 for Trump. That alone tells me this is a bogus site. That alone tells me you are a braindead cultist. Anything which does not agree with what the deepstate puppet media says, you dismiss out of hand. The reason you never heard of them is because the media selectively picks only the polling which is on board with the elitist agenda. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,429 Posted September 22, 2024 8 minutes ago, squistion said: I seriously doubt that. I would like to see that poll, who did it and what exactly did they ask the respondents. New Poll Reveals Disturbing Number of Democrats Who Wanted Trump Assassinated at Rally A new poll reveals disturbing views among some Democrats regarding the recent assassination attempt on Donald Trump. The survey, conducted by Professor Eric Kaufmann of the University of Buckingham, found that a significant portion of Democratic voters wished the attack had been successful. The shooting took place on July 13 at a Trump rally in Butler, Pennsylvania. A 20-year-old registered Republican, Thomas Matthew Crooks, opened fire, killing a rallygoer and injuring two others before being shot dead by the Secret Service. Trump suffered a minor injury when a bullet grazed his right ear. While most Americans were relieved Trump survived, Kaufmann's research suggests not everyone felt that way. The poll indicated that about one-third of Democratic voters wished the assassination attempt had succeeded. Among progressive Democrats, that number jumped to 71%. Kaufmann attributes the results to what he calls "woke moral absolutism" of the Left. He explains, "Identity politics has moralized the outlook of the Left, painting conservatives as evil rather than wrong," as per the Daily Mail. The results align with the fact that several high-profile liberals voiced support for the assassin in the aftermath of the horrific event. Jacqueline Marsaw, who worked for a Mississippi House Democrat, posted on Facebook that Crooks should have taken 'shooting lessons'. She was fired over the comment. Kyle Gass, part of the comedy-rock duo Tenacious D with Jack Black, said during an Australian show, "Don't miss Trump next time." His musical career has since suffered. Colorado State Representative, Steven Woodrow, lamented how the failed attack created "sympathy for the devil." He later apologized for the remark. Kaufmann also argued that this stems from growing 'partisan asymmetry' in the country. "The Left is more prejudiced against the Right than vice versa," he claimed. His studies show liberals are more likely to discriminate against conservatives in various ways, from unfriending them on social media to refusing to date them. People who supported the idea of assassinating Trump also had other extreme views. A lot of them agreed with the statement that "White Republicans are racist," which shows what Kaufmann calls a habit of seeing political opponents as "evil instead of just wrong." This way of thinking leads to using dramatic terms like 'White supremacy,' 'fascism,' and 'danger,' according to the professor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,765 Posted September 22, 2024 17 minutes ago, jonmx said: That alone tells me you are a braindead cultist. Anything which does not agree with what the deepstate puppet media says, you dismiss out of hand. The reason you never heard of them is because the media selectively picks only the polling which is on board with the elitist agenda. Lol OK buddy. Let’s see how it all turns out Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,202 Posted September 22, 2024 8 minutes ago, jonmx said: New Poll Reveals Disturbing Number of Democrats Who Wanted Trump Assassinated at Rally A new poll reveals disturbing views among some Democrats regarding the recent assassination attempt on Donald Trump. The survey, conducted by Professor Eric Kaufmann of the University of Buckingham, found that a significant portion of Democratic voters wished the attack had been successful. The shooting took place on July 13 at a Trump rally in Butler, Pennsylvania. A 20-year-old registered Republican, Thomas Matthew Crooks, opened fire, killing a rallygoer and injuring two others before being shot dead by the Secret Service. Trump suffered a minor injury when a bullet grazed his right ear. While most Americans were relieved Trump survived, Kaufmann's research suggests not everyone felt that way. The poll indicated that about one-third of Democratic voters wished the assassination attempt had succeeded. Among progressive Democrats, that number jumped to 71%. Kaufmann attributes the results to what he calls "woke moral absolutism" of the Left. He explains, "Identity politics has moralized the outlook of the Left, painting conservatives as evil rather than wrong," as per the Daily Mail. The results align with the fact that several high-profile liberals voiced support for the assassin in the aftermath of the horrific event. Jacqueline Marsaw, who worked for a Mississippi House Democrat, posted on Facebook that Crooks should have taken 'shooting lessons'. She was fired over the comment. Kyle Gass, part of the comedy-rock duo Tenacious D with Jack Black, said during an Australian show, "Don't miss Trump next time." His musical career has since suffered. Colorado State Representative, Steven Woodrow, lamented how the failed attack created "sympathy for the devil." He later apologized for the remark. Kaufmann also argued that this stems from growing 'partisan asymmetry' in the country. "The Left is more prejudiced against the Right than vice versa," he claimed. His studies show liberals are more likely to discriminate against conservatives in various ways, from unfriending them on social media to refusing to date them. People who supported the idea of assassinating Trump also had other extreme views. A lot of them agreed with the statement that "White Republicans are racist," which shows what Kaufmann calls a habit of seeing political opponents as "evil instead of just wrong." This way of thinking leads to using dramatic terms like 'White supremacy,' 'fascism,' and 'danger,' according to the professor. So there is just one so called "poll" and those findings were by Professor Eric Kaufmann of the University of Buckingham? Is that all you got? A survey by a political science professor in the UK with no professional polling experience? 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites