Kamala Harris Fox Interview Oct. 16

[Sean Mooney 1,937]

8 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Being a leader would be chief among the requirements.  So what makes a leader? Many factors, and prominent among those factors is admitting mistakes.  Sadly, this is not politically expedient so the standard fare in politics is to pretend things arent as bad as they really are, trot out stats that seem to suggest things are better etc....

For Harris, she is apparently so afraid to speak her mind and announce her positions that she essentially just walks around things. She never speaks her truth, and that should be rather telling.....she knows her truth is pointedly harmful to many people, so making it clear what she will do would lose her votes. So for now she dances and evades answering for her role in the harm of the last four years.

I would expect her to speak pointedly about the mistakes at the border and with regard to the economy and clearly outline salient elements of her plan to not repeat those mistakes.  This pretense that the border is this long standing problem is sorta true, but she and Joe threw gas on it, and now want to pretend its all someone elses fauly...its not...what happened after then entered office is their fault....because they placated morons on the left who think immigrants should be able to flow into our country as they please....well fock that....and fock them.....

How many mistakes has Trump owned up to?

On the border stuff- I'd encourage you to read the links I posted. It paints a picture that is less dire than what we are led to believe by the mainstream right leaning media. To be fair it is also less rosy than the mainstream left leaning media posits. 

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Just now, Sean Mooney said:

How many mistakes has Trump owned up to?

On the border stuff- I'd encourage you to read the links I posted. It paints a picture that is less dire than what we are led to believe by the mainstream right leaning media. To be fair it is also less rosy than the mainstream left leaning media posits. 

The number is somewhere between zero and none.

[RLLD 4,143]

4 minutes ago, Herbivore said:

you working on becoming the politician you lament so much? either way nice deflection here.

Not sure I would be successful as a politician, its a dirty business, and my opponents would have ample ammunition to lob grenades.....rather than debate the policy.   Of course.....I could run as a Democrat....had not considered that....and then I would be immune from my mistakes....

[jbycho 591]

7 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Eventually ones misdeeds come back to them.  In this instance Joe Biden did not select the best candidate, not unlike Harris herself when she selected her running mate. 

Instead of focusing on the quality of the person, they focus on the irrelevant.  And in the end they hurt themselves.  Now they have to live with the person who checked boxes, but really did not have the qualities the position requires.  Time and again, Liberals do things for show instead of substance.  It's ultimately a self-defeating strategy.

She was the only one who could give Biden a chance of looking rational on the world stage. When people would say, "Biden has lost his mind", at least there was Harris right in the picture for them to then say, "well, it could be worse" (while pointing at her). 

And honestly, reflecting upon the history of this once great country at this moment, the outlook for the next four years if Harris wins...? "Leaves are brown now, and the sky is a hazy shade of winter."

When democrats are in office these days, it's time for self preservation tactics to be deployed.   

 

[RLLD 4,143]

4 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

How many mistakes has Trump owned up to?

On the border stuff- I'd encourage you to read the links I posted. It paints a picture that is less dire than what we are led to believe by the mainstream right leaning media. To be fair it is also less rosy than the mainstream left leaning media posits. 

How many has Biden? How many has Pelosi? How many has Obama?   I mean, when I say this is politics I am acknowledging this is political theatre.  I am noting that she has to dance and avoid questions because she knows very well what she has done.

With regard to the border, give me back the Trump-era policies, today.....then play around with the "we have to fix this through congress" game....which is code for "we will do nothing".  We can do both.

[RLLD 4,143]

2 minutes ago, jbycho said:

She was the only one who could give Biden a chance of looking rational on the world stage. When people would say, "Biden has lost his mind", at least there was Harris right in the picture for them to then say, "well, it could be worse" (while pointing at her). 

And honestly, reflecting upon the history of this once great country at this moment, the outlook for the next four years if Harris wins...? "Leaves are brown now, and the sky is a hazy shade of winter."

When democrats are in office these days, it's time for self preservation tactics to be deployed.   

 

If you think it could not get worse, I assure you it can.  And what will we then leave for those who come after?  The harm these people have done, and would continue to do, to this nation is appalling.  In four years, the erased two decades of economic progress for the lower classes. and likely doomed them to slow growth for at least another decade, which will result in a widening wealth gap.

And it did not need to happen.....

[Sean Mooney 1,937]

2 minutes ago, RLLD said:

How many has Biden? How many has Pelosi? How many has Obama?   I mean, when I say this is politics I am acknowledging this is political theatre.  I am noting that she has to dance and avoid questions because she knows very well what she has done.

That is a non-answer.

How many mistakes has Trump owned up to? You said yourself 

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So what makes a leader? Many factors, and prominent among those factors is admitting mistakes. 

 

[jbycho 591]

12 minutes ago, Herbivore said:

you working on becoming the politician you lament so much? either way nice deflection here.

This a new thing just when wanting to say something without actually saying anything? Just everyone saying "deflection...deflection...deflection"? Whether you agree with his reply or not, he addressed the question straight on. 

Nevermind. 

 

[RLLD 4,143]

1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said:

That is a non-answer.

How many mistakes has Trump owned up to? You said yourself 

 

Beats me, I assume he has made some.   Perhaps you can provide a list, and I can rank them.

By way of example, I support abortion....but oh no....Trump does not.....shall I now abandon him and the rest of the positive things? What matters more?  Should I elevate wh0res using abortion as birth control over economic progress for millions? No way.

So, mistakes are not all equal.  Who is worse Bush or Clinton, I think maybe Bush.....who is worse, Clinton or Obama....thats a tougher one....

So, pretending that the mistakes of Trump measure up in any way to the unforced errors of the current admin is just farcical.  This is why the question "are you better off" keeps coming up and why Harris assiduously avoids answering it.....its really the main question that matters.

So....uh...make a list I guess....because ALL.......politicians make mistakes.....and ALL......politicians work to hide it......but what were those mistakes?

[jbycho 591]

11 minutes ago, RLLD said:

If you think it could not get worse, I assure you it can.  And what will we then leave for those who come after?  The harm these people have done, and would continue to do, to this nation is appalling.  In four years, the erased two decades of economic progress for the lower classes. and likely doomed them to slow growth for at least another decade, which will result in a widening wealth gap.

And it did not need to happen.....

I wish I could say I think Trump could have a chance in this election, but, knowing the power of the democratic party and their mass media and upper level department of justice control, I have lost all confidence in our political system. I had Trump pegged in 2020 to win handily, and when I went to bed that night before midnight on election day, he had it wrapped up. 5 hours later, complete reversal specifically in all the states that mattered. 

The only way Harris doesn't win is if the democrats don't ultimately want her to win. But given the fact that she will be their perfect robotic toy to sign what they tell her to sign, it probably already is over. 

[Sean Mooney 1,937]

Just now, RLLD said:

Beats me, I assume he has made some.   Perhaps you can provide a list, and I can rank them.

By way of example, I support abortion....but oh no....Trump does not.....shall I now abandon him and the rest of the positive things? What matters more?  Should I elevate wh0res using abortion as birth control over economic progress for millions? No way.

So, mistakes are not all equal.  Who is worse Bush or Clinton, I think maybe Bush.....who is worse, Clinton or Obama....thats a tougher one....

So, pretending that the mistakes of Trump measure up in any way to the unforced errors of the current admin is just farcical.  This is why the question "are you better off" keeps coming up and why Harris assiduously avoids answering it.....its really the main question that matters.

So....uh...make a list I guess....because ALL.......politicians make mistakes.....and ALL......politicians work to hide it......but what were those mistakes?

Look this is very simple- you made the statement that she did not "have the qualities the position [President] requires."

I asked what qualities you need. You said:

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prominent among those factors is admitting mistakes.....I would expect her to speak pointedly about the mistakes at the border and with regard to the economy and clearly outline salient elements of her plan to not repeat those mistakes....

 

I asked: "What mistakes has Trump owned up to?"

Your response was "But Biden...and Pelosi...and Obama"

I re-asked my question

Your response was "I don't know. Give me a list." It isn't about me constructing a list. You are saying essentially- that she should see these mistakes (exactly as you see them) and account for them....but for Trump he doesn't have to account for mistakes that he may have made. 

You do see how this appears to be you holding her to a standard that you do not hold Trump to? I mean, I get why you are- you are clearly Republican and refuse to give them any blame on anything (we've also established that). However, it also torpedoes your credibility on the issue. 

[RLLD 4,143]

1 minute ago, jbycho said:

I wish I could say I think Trump could have a chance in this election, but, knowing the power of the democratic party and their mass media and upper level department of justice control, I have lost all confidence in our political system. I had Trump pegged in 2016 to win handily, and when I went to bed that night before midnight on election day, he had it wrapped up. 5 hours later, complete reversal specifically in all the states that mattered. 

The only way Harris doesn't win is if the democrats don't ultimately want her to win. But given the fact that she will be their perfect robotic toy to sign what they tell her to sign, it probably already is over. 

Trump has the potential to win. Its rather close, and as Harris avails herself more and more, people are naturally moving away from her; they can see she is low quality.

Consider all the weapons the Democrats have used so far....all the fake conspiracies, and the careful protections afforded Biden.....all the lawfare....the assassination attempts,,,,and yet here are, nearing the eve of the election, and its a tight heat......

I am sure the Democrats are weaponizing things further behind the scenes of course, and clearly they will sacrifice everything to stop him.....but I hold hope that he can prevail....and then I want him to gut the DOJ, and expose all of their dirty deeds...ALL OF THEM....

[RLLD 4,143]

3 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Look this is very simple- you made the statement that she did not "have the qualities the position [President] requires."

I asked what qualities you need. You said:

 

I asked: "What mistakes has Trump owned up to?"

Your response was "But Biden...and Pelosi...and Obama"

I re-asked my question

Your response was "I don't know. Give me a list." It isn't about me constructing a list. You are saying essentially- that she should see these mistakes (exactly as you see them) and account for them....but for Trump he doesn't have to account for mistakes that he may have made. 

You do see how this appears to be you holding her to a standard that you do not hold Trump to? I mean, I get why you are- you are clearly Republican and refuse to give them any blame on anything (we've also established that). However, it also torpedoes your credibility on the issue. 

Correct, but I did not let you redirect the discussion away from the core position, and I understand that is frustrating....you are hoping to create some alternate false analogy to fabricated some hypocritical demonstration....yet I remain fixed to the original position, and will not walk into your poorly-constructed false equivalency.

So....back to the central point......she is not suitable to the role as she is an inferior leader, key among her faults is her inability to accept her mistakes.  

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1 hour ago, Sean Mooney said:

As I said in the other thread- I thought both her and Baier came off well in the interview as they pushed enough from either side for the interview to be challenging but also for her to hit some key points she needed to hit.

I'm with you too on the Biden question. She isn't going to throw him under the bus. And really what good would it do her to say "Yeah I noticed he was senile in June of 2023." It is just going to lead to more questions and it will piss off voters in the Democrat party which she doesn't want to do. 

I might have voted for her if she answered truthfully.  Oh well, she lost her opportunity.

[Sean Mooney 1,937]

1 minute ago, RLLD said:

Correct, but I did not let you redirect the discussion away from the core position, and I understand that is frustrating....you are hoping to create some alternate false analogy to fabricated some hypocritical demonstration....yet I remain fixed to the original position, and will not walk into your poorly-constructed false equivalency.

So....back to the central point......she is not suitable to the role as she is an inferior leader, key among her faults is her inability to accept her mistakes.  

I'm not redirecting the discussion....and we are multiple posts in now and you refuse to answer the question- which is telling.

You asserted that a main quality of being a leader is admitting mistakes...you offered where Kamala does not admit mistakes. I ask again- when has Trump admitted to making mistakes? 

[MDC 7,128]

6 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Correct, but I did not let you redirect the discussion away from the core position, and I understand that is frustrating....you are hoping to create some alternate false analogy to fabricated some hypocritical demonstration....yet I remain fixed to the original position, and will not walk into your poorly-constructed false equivalency.

The richest of ironies right here.  

[RLLD 4,143]

3 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

I'm not redirecting the discussion....and we are multiple posts in now and you refuse to answer the question- which is telling.

You asserted that a main quality of being a leader is admitting mistakes...you offered where Kamala does not admit mistakes. I ask again- when has Trump admitted to making mistakes? 

I did answer, you do not like the answer, it did not allow you to make whatever point you were hoping to make.

I did not assert the main quality of being a leader is admitting mistakes, I noted it was an important one because you asked for an example.  This example is relevant because its pointedly a concern for this election.  We need Harris to tell us how she will not repeat her mistakes, otherwise it suggests she will continue them.

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12 hours ago, OldMaid said:

Just finished watching it. Some of you guys are completely unhinged- it wasn’t nearly as bad as some are making out.

Brett did a good job of trying to pin her down, although I didn’t appreciate how he repeatedly cut her off in the beginning. She dodged some questions, for sure, but she definitely didn’t come off as incompetent, FFS. I do wish she would have been able to say she owes those mothers an apology, but she’s in a damned if you do, damned if you don’t situation. That kinda applies to most of those questions. As VP she shouldn’t really be throwing her boss under the bus, so what good answer can she give? Not that any answer would be good enough for Trump fans.

I think her biggest flub was misunderstanding the clip that Brett showed w/Trump. Which by the way, he kinda dodged a real answer there as well. 

At the end, Brett was nodding along-I wouldn’t be surprised if he secretly votes for her.   J/K

Pretty much agree with this.

Baier interrupted her several times right in the beginning which was super annoying, and shocker that all the conservatives who whined about the moderators from the debate don’t have a problem with that.   He did get a little better with that later on at least.

I thought it was laughable that he asked about trans surgeries for prisoners before the economy, or frankly at all if only having 30 minutes.

She didn’t do horrible, but she did give mostly non-answers.  “But Trump” isn’t irrelevant when that’s the guy you’re running against, but it was pretty stupid of her to say “Donald Trump has been running for office that entire time” when asked why people thought the country was on the wrong track during the current administration.   But she didn’t blame everything on Trump, for example she called out how the border was a mess even before Trump.

Overall this probably isn’t going to change anyone’s mind either way.

[RLLD 4,143]

Just now, MDC said:

The richest of ironies right here.  

Hey look, MDC showed up to add nothing again..... always an intellectual treat.

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Trump posted a link to the entire interview with the caption "our next campaign ad just came out.".  'Nuff said.

[Engorgeous George 2,126]

9 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Correct, but I did not let you redirect the discussion away from the core position, and I understand that is frustrating....you are hoping to create some alternate false analogy to fabricated some hypocritical demonstration....yet I remain fixed to the original position, and will not walk into your poorly-constructed false equivalency.

So....back to the central point......she is not suitable to the role as she is an inferior leader, key among her faults is her inability to accept her mistakes.  

But what about her substantial experience administering a large and diverse organization?  What about her experience in foriegn diplomatic relationships?  What about her ability to articulate plans to reach her ambiguous and nebulous goals, like an "opportunity economy"?  What about her abidding principles and issue stances?  

 

Wait, ... nevermind.

[jbycho 591]

1 minute ago, Engorgeous George said:

But what about her substantial experience administering a large and diverse organization?  What about her experience in foriegn diplomatic relationships?  What about her ability to articulate plans to reach her ambiguous and nebulous goals, like an "opportunity economy"?  What about her abidding principles and issue stances?  

 

Wait, ... nevermind.

Hey, that woman can put a mean polish on a door knob. 

[Sean Mooney 1,937]

2 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I did answer, you do not like the answer, it did not allow you to make whatever point you were hoping to make.

I did not assert the main quality of being a leader is admitting mistakes, I noted it was an important one because you asked for an example.  This example is relevant because its pointedly a concern for this election.  We need Harris to tell us how she will not repeat her mistakes, otherwise it suggests she will continue them.

This is your tactic always. Say something, get wriggled into a corner and then say "You are trying to misdirect the conversation...."

Again- you said this: "So what makes a leader? Many factors, and prominent among those factors is admitting mistakes."

"Prominent" means important....so yes it would be fair to say you view admitting mistakes as a main quality of being a leader.

If you are in the middle or a Harris voter looking for a reason to vote for Trump you would be looking for him to admit his mistakes then. He was President for 4 years. He has been campaigning since 2015 as he successfully ran for President once , unsuccessfully ran for it once, and is now running for it again. Is it your position he has made no mistakes in that time frame that he should account for? Why is it only incumbent on her to admit mistakes and pledge to not repeat them and not on him to do the same thing?

Again- you are framing this in an extremely one sided manner and you either don't see that, or refuse to see that, or are knowingly doing it in a dishonest manner. 

 

 

[Herbivore 1,115]

35 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Not sure I would be successful as a politician, its a dirty business, and my opponents would have ample ammunition to lob grenades.....rather than debate the policy.   Of course.....I could run as a Democrat....had not considered that....and then I would be immune from my mistakes....

deflection to victim...maybe not successful, but you got the baseline.

[Engorgeous George 2,126]

3 minutes ago, jbycho said:

Hey, that woman can put a mean polish on a door knob. 

I skill I prized highly during my dating years oh so long ago.  

[RLLD 4,143]

2 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

This is your tactic always. Say something, get wriggled into a corner and then say "You are trying to misdirect the conversation...."

Again- you said this: "So what makes a leader? Many factors, and prominent among those factors is admitting mistakes."

"Prominent" means important....so yes it would be fair to say you view admitting mistakes as a main quality of being a leader.

If you are in the middle or a Harris voter looking for a reason to vote for Trump you would be looking for him to admit his mistakes then. He was President for 4 years. He has been campaigning since 2015 as he successfully ran for President once , unsuccessfully ran for it once, and is now running for it again. Is it your position he has made no mistakes in that time frame that he should account for? Why is it only incumbent on her to admit mistakes and pledge to not repeat them and not on him to do the same thing?

Again- you are framing this in an extremely one sided manner and you either don't see that, or refuse to see that, or are knowingly doing it in a dishonest manner. 

 

 

I am framing this accurately. Harris needs to reassure people she will not repeat the many mistakes she was party to with Joe Biden.  She HAS to tell us her plan to not repeat, not continue those mistakes....but right now she is too afraid.   So, she is therefore unsuitable.....unless she can commit to NOT repeating her mistakes.....which she refuses to admit.

[RLLD 4,143]

3 minutes ago, Herbivore said:

deflection to victim...maybe not successful, but you got the baseline.

But it could work. I would enjoy protections that should allow my past to become irrelevant. I could just pretend to buy into their nonsense, and then later use common sense....

[Sean Mooney 1,937]

Just now, RLLD said:

I am framing this accurately. Harris needs to reassure people she will not repeat the many mistakes she was party to with Joe Biden.  She HAS to tell us her plan to not repeat, not continue those mistakes....but right now she is too afraid.   So, she is therefore unsuitable.....unless she can commit to NOT repeating her mistakes.....which she refuses to admit.

Again I ask- Trump made mistakes in his Presidency as well and in his run up to potentially being President now....which mistakes has he owned up to? Does he not need to reassure people that he will not repeat these mistakes?

Is he too afraid to? If he is, then he is therefore unsuitable....unless he can commit to NOT repeating his mistakes....which he refuses to admit.

[RLLD 4,143]

1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said:

Again I ask- Trump made mistakes in his Presidency as well and in his run up to potentially being President now....which mistakes has he owned up to? Does he not need to reassure people that he will not repeat these mistakes?

Is he too afraid to? If he is, then he is therefore unsuitable....unless he can commit to NOT repeating his mistakes....which he refuses to admit.

What mistakes might you point toward for Trump, which he refuses to admit it.  Armed with an actual list we could compare and then make a forensic decision as to which refusals are more important.

So, list away, hell I already gave you one....abortion.  So start listing.

[MDC 7,128]

16 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Hey look, MDC showed up to add nothing again.....

All you add to the GC is hot air.

[Sean Mooney 1,937]

2 minutes ago, RLLD said:

What mistakes might you point toward for Trump, which he refuses to admit it.  Armed with an actual list we could compare and then make a forensic decision as to which refusals are more important.

So, list away, hell I already gave you one....abortion.  So start listing.

I'm going to try again....You listed things you see as mistakes in what Kamala did. Perhaps she does not see them as mistakes despite you doing so. Still you are holding her to a standard of admitting to them because you view that as a pertinent/important quality of being a leader. You have also pointed out a few times that her not admitting to them is a major factor for you.

What mistakes has Trump owned up to? If admitting mistakes is a pertinent/important quality of being a leader than why has he not owned up to any? Is it your position that he had a perfect Presidency and has never said/done anything wrong since 2016?

[Sean Mooney 1,937]

1 minute ago, MDC said:

All you add to the GC is hot air.

I'm asking him a very simple question and he can't answer it. 

[jbycho 591]

5 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Again I ask- Trump made mistakes in his Presidency as well and in his run up to potentially being President now....which mistakes has he owned up to? Does he not need to reassure people that he will not repeat these mistakes?

Is he too afraid to? If he is, then he is therefore unsuitable....unless he can commit to NOT repeating his mistakes....which he refuses to admit.

What does Trump have to do with the actions of Harris? Or, are you done talking about Harris. If so, just say so. 

[RLLD 4,143]

3 minutes ago, MDC said:

All you add to the GC is hot air.

Still nothing......if you have any value, maybe one day you can show it. 

[RLLD 4,143]

3 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

I'm going to try again....You listed things you see as mistakes in what Kamala did. Perhaps she does not see them as mistakes despite you doing so. Still you are holding her to a standard of admitting to them because you view that as a pertinent/important quality of being a leader. You have also pointed out a few times that her not admitting to them is a major factor for you.

What mistakes has Trump owned up to? If admitting mistakes is a pertinent/important quality of being a leader than why has he not owned up to any? Is it your position that he had a perfect Presidency and has never said/done anything wrong since 2016?

What mistakes, in your opinion....and other than what i have listed, has Trump made.....   Armed with a list, again....other than what I gave you, I can then google to see if he admitted to any mistakes you feel he made....

Now, chances are.....that he....not unlike  eeeeeeevvvvrrryyyy other politician.....has not admitted to anything.  BUT.....thats not the end....if YOU.......YOU....can point to and outcome that harmed people, we can stand that up next to that which Harris is party to...

Here is where it gets fun.....you can even use my example as your top thing....and we can measure it against her damage done, and rank it

So this entire attempt her are the "you too!!!" thing, is not relevant....not going to work....if you cannot even point to a mistake....

 

[Engorgeous George 2,126]

7 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

I'm going to try again....You listed things you see as mistakes in what Kamala did. Perhaps she does not see them as mistakes despite you doing so. Still you are holding her to a standard of admitting to them because you view that as a pertinent/important quality of being a leader. You have also pointed out a few times that her not admitting to them is a major factor for you.

What mistakes has Trump owned up to? If admitting mistakes is a pertinent/important quality of being a leader than why has he not owned up to any? Is it your position that he had a perfect Presidency and has never said/done anything wrong since 2016?

I believe he has admitted that having Pence as his Vice president was a mistake, though I could be wrong.   I also understand that in private moments he has apologized for imposing Omarosa on the american public.  He has, however, never apologized for putting ketchup on steak, an unforgivable blasphemy.

[Sean Mooney 1,937]

1 minute ago, jbycho said:

What does Trump have to do with the actions of Harris? Or, are you done talking about Harris. If so, just say so. 

You have the ability to go back and read the conversation. One person made the claim that Harris does not possess the qualities to be President. I asked what those qualities are and was told an important one is being able to admit mistakes. I never indicated one way or another about mistakes she may have made. I asked though if that is a quality that is important- what mistakes has Trump admitted to. Multiple posts later- we still have not received an answer to that. Just a lot of filibuster and words.

It's not about what Harris has done wrong or right, and it's not about what Trump did wrong or right in his term. It's about- if one person has one standard shouldn't the other person have the same standard? 

[jbycho 591]

30 minutes ago, MDC said:

The richest of ironies right here.  

 

9 minutes ago, MDC said:

All you add to the GC is hot air.

[Sean Mooney 1,937]

2 minutes ago, RLLD said:

What mistakes, in your opinion....and other than what i have listed, has Trump made.....   Armed with a list, again....other than what I gave you, I can then google to see if he admitted to any mistakes you feel he made....

Now, chances are.....that he....not unlike  eeeeeeevvvvrrryyyy other politician.....has not admitted to anything.  BUT.....thats not the end....if YOU.......YOU....can point to and outcome that harmed people, we can stand that up next to that which Harris is party to...

Here is where it gets fun.....you can even use my example as your top thing....and we can measure it against her damage done, and rank it

So this entire attempt her are the "you too!!!" thing, is not relevant....not going to work....if you cannot even point to a mistake....

 

So another non-answer. It doesn't matter what mistakes I think he has made much like it doesn't matter which mistakes you think Kamala has made. That is just you or I putting our thoughts on the candidate's positions. 

Take out what you personally think her mistakes are. You are saying she never admits mistakes. Now take out personally what I might think Trump's mistakes are....when does he admit to making mistakes?

[MDC 7,128]

9 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Still nothing......if you have any value, maybe one day you can show it. 

You first.