Gepetto 1,288 Posted October 23, 2024 10/22/2024 NBA Regular Season begins Celtics 132 - 109 Knicks Lakers looking good early against the TImberwolves (Julius Randle now with the Timberwolves with Karl Anthony Towns traded to the NY Knicks) 49 - 32 a little over half way through the 2nd quarter Lakers rookie Dalton Knecht playing early and 2 for 2 shooting, and a rebound, an assist and aa steal early as well. Bronny James checking in now with Lebron. Ken Griffey and Ken Griffey Jr are at the game and were seen together with Lebron and Bronny before the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,675 Posted October 23, 2024 unfortunately its just trash now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,578 Posted January 3 95 three point shots between celts and wolves Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vikings4ever 538 Posted January 4 So the Lakers coach is pissy that the TV guys aren't trying to polish the turd that the league's offering. https://uproxx.com/dimemag/charles-barkley-jj-redick-dead-man-walking-rant-video/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,799 Posted January 4 21 hours ago, edjr said: 95 three point shots between celts and wolves Snore Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,825 Posted January 4 Some of us tried telling everyone the NBA sucked for years. I think people are starting to come around. 10 teams a side make the "playoffs". They sit guys each week. Regular season means close to nothing. And its a 3 pt contest. No real rivalries anymore. If even some teams have some history of meeting, they are all buddy buddy and would be fine with partnering up in the future anyway. I grew up playing basketball as my main sport. I still love the game. But the NBA is trash. Id rather watch a mid D1 game than any NBA game. Heres what thr face of the league is concerned about... Lakers' LeBron James: 'Really Sucks' Not Wearing Christmas Day Jerseys for NBA Games Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,115 Posted January 4 I love the NBA right now. though, like in another thread we had, I think they should expand the court and 3 pt line. 1 ft wider each side, 3pt line same, leading to maybe 1.5 ft longer from top of the key. 1 ft longer each end. It will help opening up the spacing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,675 Posted January 4 Lebron kick started the trend of teaming up and picking where you play. To me that sort of ended the rivalries. It snowballed into whiny stars forcing their way to the teams they wanted to play for by any means necessary. We watched Durant blow it against the Warriors and then turn around and join them. James Harden pout his way to the Nets only to pout his way to the 76ers only to pout his way to...and on and on. "the process" didn't help and the measures implemented to try and dissuade teams from tanking were not really enough. Perhaps the biggest issue has been with teams resting star players. It ruins the product and the fan experience. With the play in part of the seeding and the extra teams making the playoffs, it's more incentive to rest veteran stars. The MLB season is too long but at least, even with their playoff expansion, it still feels like teams need a sense of urgency all year to secure a spot. To be fair to MLB which has its own problems, their playoff expansion has worked well to keep mid market teams trying to win deeper into the season rather than selling off. The 3 point shot didn't ruin the sport. It was perfectly great for many years after the 3. Analytics deciding that you either take a 3 or a dunk/layup and nothing in between is really to blame. It's hard to be upset at strategizing to win but the unfortunate consequence is the games turning into 3 point contests. Big men focusing on 3 pointers rather than their post up games. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Apologies for the TLDR... And as silly as some of the proposed MLB changes are, like the golden at bat, I do applaud them for being willing to try different things to help fix the sport and its declining popularity. I wish the NBA would be more willing to try out some bigger changes. For example, is there a decent way to limit the number of 3 point attempts a team can take in a game? Maybe in each half? Add a 3 point attempt counter to the scoreboard. Make coaches and players be aware of and game plan for when and how to utilize the 3. The attempt limit still has to be high enough that defenses can't retreat from defending the 3 point line but just enough of a limit that you can't fire it up on every possession. 37ish 3 pointers per game seems to be about average this season. Boston takes 50 per game. Denver (ranked last) takes 31. I suppose that right there is an argument that a big fix doesn't need to be implemented. 2 of the best teams in the league and the last two NBA champions are on complete opposite ends of the strategy spectrum. .... But what if teams were capped to 35 three point attempts per game? Take a 3 after you hit the limit and it's technical free throws for the other team. I'm sure the argument will be that once a team hits its max, the defense can crowd the rim and it would be much harder to mount a comeback. But it could also be argued that if you use your attempts judiciously throughout the game, you should have enough of them late if a comeback is needed. Would add some extra wrinkles to coaching and game planning. Hell, you could even structure it to be 35 attempts with 5 more added at the 6 minute mark of the 4th. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,675 Posted January 4 19 minutes ago, Herbivore said: I love the NBA right now. though, like in another thread we had, I think they should expand the court and 3 pt line. 1 ft wider each side, 3pt line same, leading to maybe 1.5 ft longer from top of the key. 1 ft longer each end. It will help opening up the spacing. is spacing really the issue or is spacing kind of part of the problem? There are a lot of shooters who routinely nail 3's from 4 feet beyond the arc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,121 Posted January 4 5 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said: "the process" didn't help and the measures implemented to try and dissuade teams from tanking were not really enough. I’d argue they were too much. Now instead of 2-3 teams tanking as usual you’ve got 7-8 all in the mix for the top pick. I think doing away with max salaries but tweaking Bird Rights so teams have a bigger advantage in signing their own draft pigks would help a lot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,675 Posted January 4 54 minutes ago, MDC said: I’d argue they were too much. Now instead of 2-3 teams tanking as usual you’ve got 7-8 all in the mix for the top pick. I think doing away with max salaries but tweaking Bird Rights so teams have a bigger advantage in signing their own draft pigks would help a lot. yeah, I guess I more meant it wasn't enough of a solution. I agree with you, it likely increased the problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,115 Posted January 4 1 hour ago, WhiteWonder said: is spacing really the issue or is spacing kind of part of the problem? There are a lot of shooters who routinely nail 3's from 4 feet beyond the arc i don't know about routinely. I have said this before, part of the problem w the NBA is the D is very good. It is very hard to move the ball for mid range jumpers, or even the post cause the help is there. Moving out the 3 line will bring down overall %s and give more space for post play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,121 Posted January 4 1 hour ago, WhiteWonder said: yeah, I guess I more meant it wasn't enough of a solution. I agree with you, it likely increased the problem. I’m not sure what the league can really do about it. Eliminating the lottery altogether would probably reduce tanking more than spreading the odd like they have. Tanking is always going to be a bigger problem in the NBA than other sports since 1 star player has a far bigger impact and teams that aren’t in NY, FL, or CA have a huge disadvantage in attracting star free agents. The league is a mess right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,739 Posted January 4 1 hour ago, MDC said: The league is a mess right now. What are we doing about our Sixers? I can't take one more minute of this team as constricted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,825 Posted January 4 If your local college team sorta stinks and its late in the year and you are given a pair of tickets....you may go because its just fandom or wanting to see them progress/play youngs. There is no real passion from a typical NBA fan. Its more about players for most under 30 year olds. The local NBA sucks, they are tanking, they sit their 1 good player, they are going through the motions in March. Who wants those tickets? The NBA goes through spurts of real super teams and not so much. Not sure where they are now but feels like 4 teams have a realistic chance of winning it all at start of each year. That sorta hurts anyone caring for 5 months. I know you can sort of say the same for other leagues. But did the Bronco fans expect to have some fun going to the playoffs? Did thr Vikings fans feel like they had a team that had a chance even if they expected a solid year? Hell people were down on the Bills and rightfully so on paper. Fans mostly looked at it as a step back year going in even if they had a solid regular season. They have as good of a chance as they have had in their run of being good. How about Skins fans? Even if they dont win it all they are excited about their future QB and how well they did this year. In a 1 and done format you at least feel like you can make a run. They could never do it because of revenue. But making all playoff series 3 game series would be more interesting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,675 Posted January 4 1 hour ago, MDC said: I’m not sure what the league can really do about it. Eliminating the lottery altogether would probably reduce tanking more than spreading the odd like they have. Tanking is always going to be a bigger problem in the NBA than other sports since 1 star player has a far bigger impact and teams that aren’t in NY, FL, or CA have a huge disadvantage in attracting star free agents. The league is a mess right now. I’d probably go away from a lottery. The increased playoff teams should have mediocre teams trying to win later in the season because no franchise is turning down playoff game revenue, even if they have no realistic chance to win a title. So perhaps that, combined with no lottery system might make a decent improvement. . I mean, or they could go with something I’ve done in FF dynasty and keeper leagues and award the top pick to the best team who doesn’t make the playoffs. Incentive to try. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,121 Posted January 4 40 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: What are we doing about our Sixers? I can't take one more minute of this team as constricted. I’m just it watching. I’ve been a huge bball most of my life but I hate this organization. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,121 Posted January 4 6 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said: I’d probably go away from a lottery. The increased playoff teams should have mediocre teams trying to win later in the season because no franchise is turning down playoff game revenue, even if they have no realistic chance to win a title. So perhaps that, combined with no lottery system might make a decent improvement. . I mean, or they could go with something I’ve done in FF dynasty and keeper leagues and award the top pick to the best team who doesn’t make the playoffs. Incentive to try. I’d be in favor of eliminating the lottery altogether. Then get rid of max contracts and increase Bird Rights so your own draft picks only count a fraction against the cap, like 0.7 x salary. Just tossing that out there as an example. If players aren’t going to make more $alary in a small market they have all the incentive to go to NY, CA, FL. Nobody is forming a super team in Utah or whatever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,675 Posted January 4 I mean yes, CA … but no one would have thought a super team would be formed in golden state. Granted it was mostly built internally but KD was willing to join. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
